There is a lot of doom and gloom about box office flops, so how about good news for a change? I remember back in 2018 when we were all bummed about how it didn't do better. Nice to see good movies do well for a change.
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There is a lot of doom and gloom about box office flops, so how about good news for a change?
the power of BBC and girlwiener
It's hilarious how after the "Gwen is trans" thing became popular Milesgays have been trying to ship him with Peni.
The memes are funny tho
only brown people (not black) would find that funny
Work of art
I don't get it.
>Fetishising elementary-school looking petite asian women
Oh my, how problematic.
They’re the same age
>I-it's legal e-girl!
>... okay she's underage but it's not e-girl because she's totally his age this time
It's legal e-girl because the characters aren't real people, dumbass.
>miles is attracted to the elementary schooler body
Yea, sure.
I guess he can't handle a real woman like Gwen and preys on kids then.
Black guys fricking disdain anything close to gay shit
>”frick allat gay shit, I’m bout dat e-girl pussy!!!!”
suuuuuuuuuure
It's ironic since a trans black invented gay rights
Thats because they're all in the closet
which is funny considering how some of the most active LGBT spokespersons are black
Stupid glowgay
Nigs can’t take the banter, they just want to spam blacked and can’t cope with being the buty of the joke
It's hilarious how after the "Gwen x Miles" thing became canon polgays have been trying to make Gwen trans.
When you put it that way, it all makes sense.
It has been canon for ~7 years dumbass, people started making her trans when the movie surrounded her by trans iconography. I hate secondaries so much.
>it's only polgays
nah, lot of journos started writing articles on why Gwen being trans is a good thing after the movie came out
It's funny black people will frick anything but each other the moment they get a chance. Not even gonna mention their mutt byproducts. As for you Latinos unironically self-inserting as Miles, kys.
Gwen can't be trans. Stan Lee didn't create her as trans.
Why would I be happy that the endless spam of the Spider-man IP will continue?
It’s not Mario movie box office numbers though.
Still great numbers. And a much, much better movie. Well, even getting AIDS is better than Super Goyslop Movie
It's much worse, at least the Mario movie reveres its IP instead of detesting it
>every iteration of an IP needs to be exactly the same
>no it won’t get boring, what are you talking about?
Did you quote the wrong post by accident
No, “revering the IP” by not changing a damn thing and taking no risks makes for a boring experience. Mario only got away with it because they’d never done that in movie form before, but that still gives me no reason to watch the movie over playing the games. However the general public is stupid and doesn’t want to see their favorite IPs change, they just want to be fed the same slop over and over
I could've sworn people seethe and piss and shit for giving Peach a more active role in the story and having Luigi be the kidnapped one
>However the general public is stupid
You lost me here. It gives away that you're a minor, probably no older than 14.
They’ve made both Avatars top 3 grossing movies OAT, and the live action Lion King the highest ever animated grosser. They are very VERY much stupid and so are you for taking their side
Keep seething.
I know it's not Cinemaphile but 93 Mario is superior to 2023 Mario in every other conceivable way. 93 had Dennis Hopper and the set designer from Blade Runner. 2023 has Jack Black doing a meme song.
>good news
Spiderverse is literally AIDS for the franchise but keep sloping
>And a much, much better movie.
It'd be a better movie if the Mario movie had a random niggelet as the Super Mario and our Italian/Japanese mustache was a side character/mentor that's reduced to "le funny papito" and Peach is barely in the movie.
Also the black Mario Morales would have a trans girlfriend with a huge white wiener to peg him whenever she isn't cheating on him with a British Black.
Mario is better than ATSV and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
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It’s incredibly poor for a Spider-Man movie.
It's an animated movie, anon. I'm sure Disney will win the awards anyway
The standards for Spider-Man movies aren’t exactly that high.
Money-wise they are pretty high. The Batman was called disappointing because it only made $770M at the box office, about as much as TASM2 which was called a catastrophe (even though with inflation it's even higher than Batman). The first Spider-Verse made 375M and this one is on track for 600-700M.
In non-redditor speak?
Update your pic, and leave space for the golden globe and oscar.
>golden globe and oscar
Those are going to Disney.
For what
>soulless IP vs Soulless IP
western animation is dead
Every animated movie that's not based on a pre-existing IP flops.
because they greenlight garbage.
Upadate you image is 490 million now and keeps growing
>Nintendie too lazy to update meme image
Any movie that doesn’t have Seth Rogen is automatically superior to any movie that does.
Any movie that doesn’t have a trans Spiderman is automatically superior to any movie that does.
Good thing neither of them have any Spiderman then. Now Spider-man on the other hand...
None of them have trans people.
I get that it isn't actually considered a success unless it makes 10x what it cost to produce but making more than double your budget is still pretty good
and (insert any cartoon ever on television except spongebob) doesn't reach spongebob levels of cultural strength and merch sales, and we all know how well Nickelodeon turns out after comparing every cartoon since to the sponge.
>people are trying to make this a sony vs nintendo thing
back to Cinemaphile
It passed the mermaid.
That's literally the bad guys winning. Why would we be happy about that?
I guess I'm talking about the old real Cinemaphile, not this shitty new fake one.
>2018
>old real Cinemaphile
Lol shills frick off
2018 Cinemaphile still had soul. It's certainly better than with poltards infesting.
Hilarious revisionist shill cope
Do you mind telling us your hilarious delusion?
Are you moronic?. I've Been here since 2014 . Literally nothing changes ever since. same shitty threads. Shills here.trolls there. Some occasional pedo threads. Etc
Nothing changed before or after your shitty self insert character the movie came out.
>2014
That's it? There was a point where people said Cinemaphile was love.
in 2007, it was kinda true. Then the 2010s happened.
I would say that it was 2011 and the new52. That was the moment when threads about endless complaining started to grow out of control.
> I remember back in 2018 when we were all bummed about how it didn't do better.
Ok Groomer. I don't give a damn about the profits of corporations, especially when the crew of Animation productions hate people like me or even me specifically.
In fact I made my own version of the movie's plot to spoil its future
You mean you felt the glow of being in animation school shilling back then
She looks like anime you derangement case. People whine about this because the last time they were remotely appealing and lively was when they were a kid
>the crew of Animation productions hate people like me or even me specifically.
You give yourself too much credit.
They don't know or care who you are, you delusional schizo.
>You give yourself too much credit.
What the frick does this even mean you witless neanderthal. People who have a lot of "credit" get hated? Your self-assurance while barely being able to speak shows an animation school education
Considering how few options American animation fans have and being hyped up by the animation community as manna from heaven, they are mediocre numbers at best
>What the frick does this even mean you witless neanderthal. People who have a lot of "credit" get hated?
Oh, so you've got, like, ADVANCED AUTISM, huh?
>Shitty image
>Whining about being called out as an incomprehensible idiot
Yep, going over to ruin your autism thread like I was thinking about. You know, with my advanced understanding of Black Culture
I knew you were going to name call to cover for the fact that you're incapable of evidence, reasoning, or even forming a coherent thought
It was supposed to be the ark of the covenant for animation people, not a movie with a faltering reception, horrible fans, and an obsession with trans Gwen
>Whining about being called out as an incomprehensible idiot
I'm not the anon you were talking to. You just sound utterly moronic.
>Yep, going over to ruin your autism thread like I was thinking about
>You know, with my advanced understanding of Black Culture
See?
Shut your mouth boil, you're collapsing into your nonsense garbage. Just take the L
Really, since the makers of spider-verse have influence from my teenage self just like a lot of other things do. Iconic works like Steven Universe wouldn't exist without me. For not "being on my side" recent animation sure takes a lot from "my side".
>Shut your mouth boil, you're collapsing into your nonsense garbage. Just take the L
He really wasn't the anon. I was. That L is rightfully yours.
Yes, Guy is delusional, don't interact with him you morron.
>Talking to himself after he loses yet again
Looking up more industry emails. Remember, you're responsible as you sought to spoil my only social environment for animation.
I think these companies should have to commit to their woke vision instead of staying vague to try to appeal to a wide audience
>you sought to spoil my only social environment for animation.
Don't you think that, if you spoiled every other social environment, you're the one spoiling it for yourself?
Anon, he thought I was "talking to myself" because I told that other anon not to interact with him. And then he thinks sperging out to some industry folk is some come-back at me. Do you really honestly think that Guy of all people is capable of that level of introspection? I've seen him do this same song and dance enough to know he isn't. There should be a non-interference policy around him.
>he thought I was "talking to myself"...
I didn't say anything about the "talking to myself" part.
>Do you really honestly think that Guy of all people is capable of that level of introspection?
No, but I want him to feel miserable so his self-image reflects his actual importance.
>No, but I want him to feel miserable so his self-image reflects his actual importance.
A noble endeavour to be sure, but a fruitless one. Save that energy for something more worthy of your time.
>Save that energy for something more worthy of your time.
>What the frick does this even mean you witless neanderthal?
I know nephews in the third grade that know that term. You are beyond moronic.
>Quads
Sjw-sama.. We yield.
Not the bad guys if you’re not a hopeless culture warrior chud.
BLACK PEOPLE BLACK PEOPLE BLACK PEOPLE
There, that should’ve scared him off
Anon the creators are very open about their culture war agenda, I'm not sure why you'd lie about something so easily verifiable
>creators want to validate the main character of their movie
Yeah ok, next you’ll tell me they want to make money
If they wanted to make money they wouldn't be making a Miles movie lmao
>they wouldn't be making a Miles movie lmao
Peter Parker’s story and character has been told so many times and its boring
Not according to the audiences or anyone making Miles media, since all they do is rehash Peter's stories but give them to Miles
What's Miles' story.
Please make it sound as unlike Pete's as possible.
A kid who gets super powers, he can't tell his parents because other superheroes are at odds with the police and his dad is one, and his uncle it's a villain who first tries to manipulate him to be like him but eventually dies making Miles carry the guilt of that.
I guess you're right. Pete doesn't have parents.
Nor a supervillain uncle as far as I know.
That was more of a Mayday thing.
You're fricking boring. All it takes to get your dopamine receptors going is seeing Peter but painted black.
>Peter Parker's story
Do you realize that he has appeared in thousands of issues of comics? The movies have barely even scratched the surface of Amazing's stories let alone Peter's appearances in total.
And only culture war obsessed homosexuals give a frick. Frick'm, some of us just want to watch a movie.
>we just want to watch a movie
>...that supports our side of the culture war
How about you just keep culture ear bullshit out of Spider-Man
Not what I said moron.
Black superheroes are insult to real heroes everywhere. When have you seen black man do something heroic in real life? Just curious.
are the real heroes in the room with us right now?
No. We're all minions here. Evil minions.
I recognize that bulge.
What if shd has that because her world's Peter was trans?
He can't be because Sony's contract doesn't allow it
I like this head canon. It makes his dying line about wanting to be "like" Gwen more powerful and gives him a justification to pursue lizard DNA. Connors was going for regenerative abilities but Peter wanted the ability to change gender.
yeah no gwen is a troony, sorry gay
they do that and they will lose the black, latino, worldwide market. especially with the bud light and white house. even lefties got angry at the troony who flashed her breasts on the white house and are calling out how sex driven is the lgbt community. people are getting tired. that shit even made to news worldwide lmao
>they do that and they will lose the black, latino, worldwide market.
Maybe with teenage blacks and chicanos in California
In the rest of america they're all violently homophobic catholic Christians, the average gang banger has committed more violence to queers than the most radical Muslim.
Miles getting with a trans girl is a death sentence for his popularity, they would do much better to confirm that their trans representation character had 10 seconds of screen time and died before the story began.
This Juneteenth Peni will fight Gwen to free Miles from her league of Buck Breakers.
I've already paid the best drawgays to provide us with images that will make tomorrow a day to remember.
Please be real, would be funny oc as long as its in good fun.
Lemme shit on your bed, but don't worry I'll clean it!
Are the trannies shitting in your bed?
I always love the fact that people need to equate things to the extreme to seem like they have a point.
>hmm we don't have any bbq sauce. drip your nuggets in ketchup, then.
>WOW JUST DIP YOUR NUGGETS IN SHIT
Why do Latinas love PenixMiles and flood youtube with their shipping videos?
why do you have this gay shit saved? wtf is wrong with white guys?
Seething buck lmfao
i don't even know what shit means. keep your gay shit to yourself. the rest of us are trying to talk about cartoons.
Oh shut the frick up. Kek. As if anything coming from this movie wasn't meant to be some sort of a political massage. Like seriously how can any of you pretend to be so naive?. it comes of as nothing but some disgenuous act.
>Muh culture warriors
>SANDBlack folk
you guys truly are schizoid creeps. it's really hard to pinpoint where any of you stand or if you even have a moral compass.
I said that specifically to demonstrate I’m not fully with either side. It’s just that rightoids piss me off more with how much they b***h about the stupidest shit
>it's okay to be a culture warrior as long as it's my side who's doing it
Stfu you lying slime. Go cry about racism against your shitty self insert while calling people SANDBlack folk and spics. It's not like we care what you think about us anyway.
>bible takes place in Egypt
>Egypt is in Africa
>jews were not treated well in egypt
yet again the bible proves it's self to be real
and yet again you prove them to be israelites.
>jews were not treated well in egypt
I remember reading somewhere that there was no historical evidence of mass israeli enslavement in egyptian records. Just that they had to help build the pyramids like every other citizen in the country.
Mind you this was over a decade ago, so I could be off on some stuff.
The book of burning speaking bushes and sea dragons is historically inaccurate.
Who would've thought.
This is correct. There's no evidence for it though there is evidence for the Bablyonian Captivity. Claiming ties to Egypt is legitimately an occult marketing strategy for having the most powerful juju. Alchemy comes from the arabic for Egypt, the Freemasons claim to have started in Egypt, etc. Now Hoteps claim to be from Egypt.
not that I don't believe what you are saying doesn't have some truth especially as a occult marketing strategy but:
>i am black
world: okay
>i am Christian
world: okay
>i am insert other religions here
world: okay
>i am muslin
world: okay but you "evil bad guy"
>i am israel
world: nooooooo you can't say that prove it prove it!? prove it!? prove it!? prove it!?
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
one of these reactions is not like the others.
>extended strawman
You have it backwards. No one is saying Israel isn't Israel. It's just a little weird that when anyone else claims to be super special and secretly from Egypt without evidence, we know its just propaganda and marketing without it being an issue...
>>i am israel
>world: nooooooo you can't say that prove it prove it!? prove it!? prove it!? prove it!?
What is this in reference to?
I haven't heard people claim that israel isn't a place.
Don't you mean the Torah?. Kek
yes it takes place geographically egypt which is in africa.
if you are referring to the first half of the story.
kek.
Which Egypt will that be?. Lower or upper?. And do you have a chronology record of the events or even physical evidence to suggest an exodus from the native population?.
see here:
Honestly to go full tinfoil, I've always liked the theory is that Moses was Akhenaten and the story of Exodus is a reframing of the rise and fall of his monotheistic experiment and the subsequent overthrow of his Aten cult. Kicked out after Akhenaten's death, Egyptian monotheists go "wandering through the desert" and eventually meet interact with sky god worshipping proto-Hebrews, bada bing bada boom, hence the parallels between Psalm 104 and the Hymn to Aten.
Or you know. Cultural exchanges happened and a religion with no clear authors had external forces add up new shit and accumulating new forms of stories throughout different ages to appeal to a wider audience.
Good golly. If you're so sensitive about cultural appropriation take a frickin DNA test and spare us this X files truama.
>Or you know. Cultural exchanges happened and a religion with no clear authors had external forces add up new shit and accumulating new forms of stories throughout different ages to appeal to a wider audience.
...I mean, literally yes?
Okay
Blacks are still gay though
>yet another spiderverse thread that devolves into shitposters baiting shitposters baiting eachother
It's what Bendis, Lord, and Miller wanted Spider-Man to be about, they're smiling at us right now
i'm glad that ATSV is gonna break 500M. ITSV PB2 and now this one, proves that we can have more animation films that aren't disney/pixar/ilumination cliches. wish the market would go back to execs getting happy at getting a 6m paycheck, tho. this would make possible to have more animation projects aimed at different crowds and ages
Why do people hate ITSV again?
Culture war trojan horse
What does this mean?
It's not a movie, it's a vehicle for smuggling "character but black" as a non-ridiculous writing concept to general audiences by distracting them from the main issue they're pushing
Lmao, I wish I could see what you people look like irl.
I'm just paraphrasing the creators anon, their pictures are widely available online
Just shut up. You're not even making any sense. You might as well be spitting buzzwords. Heck. I'd bet you're a false flagging homosexual if that's your real take.
You're the Reason these memeverse gays are using muh race as a defense mechanism to their moronic plotline.
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I wish I were making it up but that's what they said
Plotline is moronic and fundamentally flawed, but race is also a problem.
I don't give a Single frick about some random pregnant black prostitute or a commie anarchist larper. Miggie was always half Mexican him being Brown is an improvement. Indian Spidey was the star of the show. Miles had always been a pain in the ass nignog who just happens to be a nignog. Him being a darky means nothing to the fact he exists to shit on Peter's legacy and mayday.
You all need to SHUT THE FRICK UP ABOUT RACE AND QUIT FALSE FLAGGING.
you cannot have me believing you guys are this moronic. I REFUSE. you're all milesgays trying to make shit up to make it sound your side is legitimate in its Outrage.
It means exactly what it means.
>MAKE A SPIDER-MAN MOVIE
>NICE VISUALS
>BRING FAN FAVOURITE CHARACTERS
>FANS TAKE THE BAIT
>BOMBARD THEM WITH META COMMENTARY ON A SPIDER-MAN MOVIE ABOUT MADE UP SHIT THE WRITERS PULLED OUTTA THEIR STINKING ASSES.
>PULL AN AGENT 47 ON FAN FAV CHARACTERS
>REFUSE TO ELABORATE
>WELL. YOU ACTUALLY DO ELABORATE HY CALLING EVERYONE A RACIST
>LEAVE.
What am I missing.
Soft
>righties are now pro muslim and pro censorship
What happened to "liberals are actually the homophobes that want 1984!"
Why did liberals ever advocate for the most conservative group in the world?
Ask them, gay.
Anyone here from the 2018-2019 Spider-verse generals? I miss you guys.
I was just waiting for it to pass The Little Mermaid and it finally did. I'm normally not invested in this stuff, but Disney needs several wake up calls if they're ever going to do anything good again. And I like Spider-Verse so it's good to see it succeed for that alone.
People don’t understand that trans coded isn’t the same as actually being trans.
There's no nuance on here, anon.
>trans coded
I'm not even sure what this means. The secret identity thing is Spider-Man 101. Miles tries to "come out" too. It's still something they have to keep secret from everyone else. It's not like Gwen can swing around her world "as her true self" just because her dad knows now.
That's the gist of it. The most you could say about the "coding" aspect is that the colors of the trans flag flash behind Gwen when she's arguing with her dad. So you could argue in that instance that it's an analogy for coming out, but those are Gwen's comic colors anyway.
Regardless, Cinemaphilegay tourists just took the idea and ran with it, because they have nothing else to give the movie shit for.
twitter is the one that claims Gwen is trans, homosexual
Most reasonable people who even noticed it claim it's coding or just make dumb fanart. Insane Twittergays claim it's canon. Cinemaphilegays do the same, but just to shit on idpol and make unfunny memes.
Tale as old as time.
>make unfunny memes.
If you're not on Cinemaphile for a laugh at the absurdity of the world, then why are you here?
That's just it, anon. I'm here to laugh. But the jokes aren't funny. So I remain unamused.
>Cinemaphilegays do the same
lol get filtered moron you don't understand board culture
What did you want me to say? Would "/pol/gay cross-posters be more accurate?
when is trans
that's right xister!!!! on top of that we need more black lgbtq+ representation in media, in every show all black people should be queer!!!! black trans children need their heroes too!!!!
One character aspect being different to your world view doesn't undermine the other characteristics and traits of said character.
Hating on a cartoon character for being different is not something you'd expect from spider-MAN fans. Especially miles fans.
>Hating on a cartoon character for being different is not something you'd expect from spider-MAN fans. Especially miles fans.
R-right... hehe...
Gwen also has a flag
And Gwen "comes out" to her dad in a scene awash in the pastel colors of the trans flag after having already shown the flag on the wall of her bed room and on her dad's uniform. Honestly, I'm not even mad, it's clever and if some folks find that empowering, fair enough. But the bread crumbs / coding is there. It's like how Simba isn't literally Hamlet but we know what Disney was going for with The Lion King.
>I'm not even sure what this means
I'm sure you're familiar with the black community calling piccolo black coded for his mannerism and dress code and frieza being white Allen killing them nameks to steal their balls and shit.
It's the same thing only Gwen experience is far more apparent with the whole flag and not belonging in a multiverse filled with male spider-MAN also see
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Sadly though. Bigots like
Are mind broken and unable to fathom the importance of representation.
so if you identify with ants that means those ants are moron coded, lol homosexual
My sweet summer child. Society is but one big ant farm we can already identify with the worker ants as androids salving away for the greater good of the colony.
Patterns exist wherever you look. the Human mind developed to THINK AND RECOGNIZE due to pattern recognition allowing us to differentiate between the what is beneficial to us and what is not. Our world view is completely subjective for that reason.
it isn't a matter of who you identify with, instead think of it as a personal aspects of your core existence sharing similar traits with another person or even an animal and we call those spirit totems.
Life is beautiful anon. You should try and embrace love just as we embrace gweille.
nah Gwen is 100% if you are of you aren't that coded shit doesn't exist unless you're mentally ill
I'd argue it's not so much bigoted as moronic. I suspect its something like aphantasia where you can't understand metaphor and subtext. Bigotry may be a comorbidity or contributing factor in this case.
This is how you homosexuals get rewarded for your constant smug bullshit. troony-Gwen Kek.
The most offensive thing about that image is your dogshit Photoshop skills. And why the frick is Jessica only an afro?
Im glad its doing well, but anythig spiderman being a flop would be a miracle. Hes the biggest superhero right now.
Supes may be more iconic, but apiderman is most popular.
Batman shat the bed both in comics and movies when tom king and dceu happened.
He's been the biggest superhero since basically the decade he was introduced. Limiting yourself to cinema he's been the biggest since 2002.
>Im glad its doing well, but anythig spiderman being a flop would be a miracle. Hes the biggest superhero right now.
The Spider-Verse movies are the worst performing Spider-Man movies by far though
>movie has made nearly half a billion dollars
it’s over isn’t it, spider-bros….
Can someone tell me why are awards important?. I don't care about this movie or this thread.
But why do people genuinely care for movie awards?.
Easy way to say:
>"MY PRODUCT BETTER DAN UR PRODUCT!!!"
, even though these award shows are usually rigged, and there's no actual metric to measure the 'qualities' they judge the films on, plus the title of "best" at something fluctuates based on yearly quality of releases.
What was the best song in the movie? For me it's Mona Lisa.
Hummingbird is my vibe
That's still pretty bad. With the hype you think it would be well over 500 million now.
>um actually, the movie is a flop...
Lmfao
if i cant gatekeep people away from i i dont care
If you are on the same saide as guy, you're wrong. Simple as!
this guy is trying to spam this trans gwen shit hard and why does he think black people hate it really bad?
>Miles and Penny are canonically the same age, even if their portrayals are weird as hell
>Gwen is that trendy sidecut "trans to nonbinary" thing, to parallel her CURRENT coming out story rather than... coming out literal years after transitioning? To her full ass dad? Also leads to some trite tripe like "let spider-woman rest".
>Spiderpunk doesn't believe in hyphens.
Did I miss anything, or are you gonna keep being wrong when I told you better?