There's no way that this one will flop too. Right?
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There's no way that this one will flop too. Right?
There's no way that this one will flop too. Right?
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MangoldEN has never made a flop in his life. Ultra kino incoming frick the doubters!
Girl, Interrupted
that entire poster is ruined just because of the "and the DIAL OF DESTINY" font
and the social media icons
You are right, why they chose that font its legit distracting.
Almost every Indy poster has used that font for the subtitle, anon. You're multiple decades late.
that is the shittiest Indy poster, it actually hurts my eyes with its blandness.
The poster is from starwars.
Disney buys tickets for their own movies to appease their shareholders. This is nothing new and they will never be convicted of fraud for what they do.
And they haven't been doing that all year because...?
They can write their flops off as a loss this time. Always have to play games with the IRS. The Star Wars hotel was also a long con.
It's a guaranteed flop. They spent $300 million it and it will do abysmal numbers regardless. 3/3 summer movies flopping for Yid$ney.
it absolutely will. there's no fricking hype at all and even paid shills are shitting on it
Do you guys want a fat penis that you can slap on your wife’s face that will reach her chin from her forehead as your balls rest of her scalp resting in her hair?
I had to chop mine in half to get it long enough to do that. I've still got the other half if you want it. I keep it in brine, so it's still fresh.
never mind I just ate it cause I thought it was a pickle
tasted kinda ehh
greatest Cinemaphile thread of all time
Why can’t they just make a movie about a badass archaeologist who finds clues and secret passageways to find some fricking artifact in Africa or some shit? No woke sidekicks or even Nazis for the frick of it. Maybe just some butthole rival that wants it too? Simple. Why is that so hard? The time portal dial that just goes to some battle in the past is honestly more moronic than aliens. At least aliens in ancient cultures has some real world grounding. It’s no wonder Spielberg wanted nothing to do with this.
In raiders they made the point that gott mit uns was untrue for the nazis by the fact that they lost.
In last crusade they made the point that they were materialists and antithetical to the christian religion.
In dial of destiny they argue that trying to revise the view we have of the past (as holocaust deniers generally, and especially people who fantasise about a nazi victory over the USSR do) we are no better than pointing to any random historical event where one group lost out to another as 'the point where civilisation failed and will never recover from', where we should in stead adopt an attitude that is ecumenical and universally reconciliatory, in stead of sectionalist 'lost cause'-ism, basically stating that, the systems that survived the horrors of history are the ones we should be focused on delivering, not those tried and failed in the past.
These are three points that are accepted as valid de-facto by Indiana Jones fans, they are israeli points (come from israeli director) but they are not the politics that /misc/ say necessarily opposes (they are also not bad by default of being israeli).
They brought back the nazis but they did it in an interesting way; they brought back Indy in old age but it is interesting if a bit difficult to immediately jump to accepting; hopefully the movie is par at least with Crystal Skull.
Actually interesting post. Why are you here?
an actual predditor post. why are you here?
Tracking is not looking good.
It done preflopped.
>talking summer movies with boomer coworkers
>one says he's going to watch the new indy
>say i've heard bad things about it
>yeah but it's indy, he has to see it
>trying to change a boomer's mind
No rhetoric can counter the lead in their bloodstream anon.
>2 hours and 20 minutes long
Yeah, I'm thinking flop.
I can't even predict how these fricking movies will do anymore. It could be a huge flop or it could make a billion dollars. I have no idea.
It's already getting bad reviews weeks before release; word of mouth will absolutely kill it
It'll probably be better than the last one which isn't saying much
Even from those with access to preview screenings, ie those most likely to shill or speak softly, the word of mouth is mixed to mediocre. If they can't even spin it as positive it must be absolutely abysmal.
Even critics that shat on Crystal Skull are saying this new one is worse.
Crystal skull has been favourably compared to this one. Crystal fricking skull.
Why is there a Black person
>90yo Indy
What could go wrong?
Can't wait to watch it on my mom's D+ account, but there is no way in hell I'm paying to see it in a movie theater
Not that I don't want to, but theaters are shit now
They’re putting faith in the audience rather than the critics so I’ll see it on that merit. Granted I see any movie where Boyd Holdbrook is a villian so.
It will not make a profit no.
I just don't think most people want to see a doddering old man Indiana Jones. There's a big difference between 66 (KOTCS) and 79.
>namegay
>dogshit take
every time
Fleabag was kino
>300m budget for an unwelcome sequel that’s been dogged by bad press, leaks and rewrites
It will need a miracle to break even. Maybe if it gets a smash opening so word of mouth can’t kill it.
I honestly hope it is good and does well in spite of the on-the-surface problems it has. Hopefully it can replace 4 as the one you watch after 3 if you really really need one more, and 4 can be the de facto 5, but really 213 is all you need. (If 21354 came to be the definitive viewing order that would be interesting.)
This is going to be the biggest flop of the year. A bigger failure than The Flash. Absolutely no one wants this or trusts Lucasfilm or Disney anymore.
It's on track to bomb super hard. It looks awful and we all know it will be disrespectful trash pushing the insufferable female sidekick as the main character.
why does Cinemaphile give so much of a shit about box office take?
Just worry about whether or not you want to see it or think you'll like it
I don't care if it flops or makes $7B, I'll still see it
Hear me out
What if all the critics saying the lady character is annoying and 'woke' is just their low iq not able to understand an actually ideologically non-pozzed character who is also kind of tropey, and the movie is actually OK? Is there any hope for this?
Obviously the jurassic world style nostalgia trailers sucked & the kennedy connection bodes poorly, but is there a slimmer of a chance of hope that the movie is not actually a complete dumpster fire?
What the frick has disney or lucasfilm done in recent years to make you think this could remotely be the case?
NTA but I love TFA, Rogue One, Mandalorian, and Andor
Solo, TRoS and BoBF were okay and worth seeing
only TLJ and Obi-Wan were shit IMO
>Solo, TRoS and BoBF were okay and worth seeing
Literally any branded slop will do, huh?
the last line of my post answers your question moron
Yeah, it has to be absolute bottom of the barrel, insulting shit to ever turn off your taste blinders
have a nice day
>NTA but I love TFA, Rogue One, Mandalorian, and Andor
>Solo, TRoS and BoBF were okay and worth seeing
Opinion discarded.
How many Funkopops do you own?
Are you saying the female lead is just an ironic charicature of a feminist in the 60s and she’s supposed to be seen in a negative light?
>its called capitalism
Enough said.
4 had a joke in a similar vein
Capitalism is just the dictatorship of capital interest, its not equal to free society
Capitalism is a flawed system as it exists because it perpetuates an unfair system like feudalism was
Normalising the criticism of capitalism is a good thing.
No, but she could be fun anyway, openly flawed and not an infallible mary sue perhaps, pardon me for having hope?
Absolutely nothing, but, interesting things can happen by mistake. Listen, Indy's never had an outright terrible movie, it's had crystal skull which has horribly embarrassing parts, but never anything of pure poison (arguably some of the subtler political points in 4 are the best of the series if you care to look).
Maybe (maybe!) the competing forces in the industry aligned and pressured each other in such a way as to allow good creative writing to overwrite even the causes of such failures as happened in star wars? Think of it materially. James Mangold is an unknown entity (we know how JJ and Rian Johnson operated in the circumstances they had, but, with hope things have changed, and the fresh blood is better equipped to compete in the power struggle for creative input and output in the movie).
None of the sequels, star wars stories, tv slop, etc. (including the clone wars btw) are canon. Star Wars Saga is one movie in 6 parts, best watched non-chronologically 1 4 2 5 3 6.
>No, but she could be fun anyway, openly flawed and not an infallible mary sue perhaps, pardon me for having hope?
Sorry, but you're wasting your time hoping for that. The people who have seen it have said she is painfully unlikable throughout, and is basically the main character of the movie. She upstages and humiliates Indy constantly, makes stupid quips, and is the one who does all the work in the action scenes/saves Indy multiple times.
>upstages and humiliates Indy constantly
could be done in a tasteful way with good interplay and reasonable humor, could be quite annoying, it's not the concept but the execution
>makes stupid quips
same as above, everyone has a different opinion about what quips work and don't, I think its possible one or two would get a laugh out of me
>does all the work in the action scenes
Yea, he's old
>saves Indy multiple times
I understand the point here, lots of bs movies have the female or minority character be the savior of the white guy, it gets obnoxious I agree, but, again, Indy is almost 80 years old at this point, and it all depends on execution.
I've never seen a James Mangold movie, heard Logan was solid for a superhero thing, and that Ford vs. Ferrari was good as well (at least entertaining), so for me he's a completely unknown element; with any hope he made an ok thing of it.
I don't take some eceleb grifter's opinion as gospel, forgive me for my sins
Ah, just a shill then, got it.
Yea someone paid me to spew all my bs opinions
Or maybe I just watched a bunch of yt vids like you but from people who disagree with your yt guys
Or maybe you're just a moron
YOU FORGOT TO ADD:
>You need to see it TWICE in the theater to really appreciate it!
I think it likely that absolutely incompetent writing could make her LOOK like an obnoxious caricature, but you’d be invoking death of the author for that one.
I'd take it man. If I can crack open a blu ray when I'm 50 and say, haha, that wasn't so bad when that came out, in spite of it all, I'll be happy.
>multi-billion dollar mega corporation's critique of capitalism
I don't want it, thanks
>Hear me out
Yeah, I'm not gonna listening to some mentally ill troony, nice try though
No. It's already confirmed a complete mess and her character is abysmal. Everything people hated about Brie Larson in Captain Marvel and Rey in the Star Wars sequels rolled into one profoundly insufferable character.
Captain Marvel and Rey were boring and stereotypical mary sue crap. The new one seems like a slightly different angle, with more extreme perhaps execution. My hope is that there is a chance it isn't just the same as C.M. and Rey but doubled down and more extreme, but that it is an unique twist on the same type of character that actually works within the movie as it is framed. Remember, she's not the main, she's sort of the Mutt Williams and the Sean Connery and the Willie Scott of the movie, maybe even more prominent because Ford is old, but, she's not the title of the movie, and the cover art reflects her as a subordinate character to Indy.
Dude, you're completely delusional. Critical Drinker and his buddies have already seen it, and they have said she is absolutely the worst and ruins the film, which already has almost nothing else going for it due to terrible direction, a bad script, and poor action scenes/effects work.
>What if
COPE
>COPE
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>COPE
Yeah dude, EVERYONE got it wrong except YOU, right? Just remember, there's no dilating allowed in the theater.
Hey Hollywood here's a crazy idea, how about you cut the budget and marketing costs?
>Indiana Jones trilogy is best viewed 2 1 3
>1 opens well but 2 is like an extended version of 1's opening
>2 has him introduced as a guy in a suit and not a hat man, which I think is a fun way to meet him
>2 has the logo at the beginning, the others don't
>1 and 3 are both judeo christian, where 2 is absolutely the opposite
>1 and 3 also are nazi focused where 2 is not
>2 is already a prequel anyway
>2 arguably has more interesting character relations and plot going on than 1
>2 is the darkest, 1 is middle, 3 is lightest, makes sense to go darkest to lightest
>1 is the only one that works stand alone, & has qualities that make it great in the middle like esb
>It's really a single film in 3 parts when you watch it in chronological and not release order
>3 works best as a direct sequel to 1 and not with a movie in between
>Lots of the iconic stuff in 1 is even better when taken after setups and related gags in 2 (see: the gun-holster gag, sets up in one movie and pays off a whole movie later
>2 is the most extreme iteration (3 is the most tame), so it is good practice to brute force the introduction of the most interesting and weird elements before moving on to more conventional stuff that is still good
>1 and 3 harken back to old adventure serials; 2 harkens back further to a less-revisited era of hollywood "exotic" type films, see: murder on orient express for an example; depicts the strangeness of our world as seen in other foreign (when they were still as strange as they were to us) countries. 2 really captures the feel well of the interwar period, with 1 and 3 benefitting from following them.
>4 is interesting but bad enough to generally not be worth mentioning; the first half about is actually quite up to par with what I wanted, but it falls apart with strange character relations bogging down the screen and ultimately the whole series.
what deaging tech did they use for hitlerino?
Does Hitler have a moonbase in this universe? What's his endgame?
One of the few summer movies for 2023 to have breathing room, I predict 120m+ opening, 65m+ 2nd weekend with a 34m+ 3rd weekend. That's an easy 300m after 3 weeks, that's domestic, not int as well. For sure clearing 500m int after 3rd weekend. Screen cap this, will drink my own pee if Im wrong.
>500m int after 3rd weekend.
That's a flop
well...if you say so, but I stand by those numbers
The budget was 300 million, not including marketing. The last one made 790 million. I can't see this getting close to that.
sure, I feel like this will do the same-ish, but it's circumstantial. The 4th of july is a big weekend, it's approachable. A few good reviews will go a long way, profit isn't my prediction, just ticket sales. Call it a bomb, but I say maybe maybe....maybe.... 800m WW total, could possibly hit 1b
>120m+ dom opening
watch it do almost half of that
the art fart cann people said it sucks. normies arent going to see it.
People don't give a frick about Indy. It'll flop as a Disney movie, and I'm glad it will; it'll bury the franchise for good.
APOLOGIZE!!!
>7 years after Kathleen Kennedy's inevitable departure from Lucasfilm
kek
For all his CONSTANT bullshit he finally gets ONE right like a broken clock
>aaaany day now, so and so gon' get fired! Trust me! This time I mean it!
As much as I love Mangold, I really want this to flop. Live action franchises need to die already so that we can get bolder movies.
Also yeah Frick disney and all their franchises. Bring back my original KINO now!
>Who wants to see an eighty year old Indiana Jones shuffle around while his cgi counter-part does backflips and movements that would shatter his hips and bones like glass all the while Phoebe Waller-KKinsert-Bridges quips about white men and capitalism
ooh ooh me!
that parade scene looks all kinds of awful.