That didn’t happen.
And if it did, it wasn’t that bad.
And if it was, that’s not a big deal.
And if it is, that’s not my fault.
And if it was, I didn’t mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.
I mean, even if the writing was 10/10 (which it definitely isn't) the fact is very clearly that they just pumped out too much content to ever be profitable- who the frick asked for "Echo" or an Agatha spinoff?
Guardia of the Galaxy set up marvel for failure even if it was successful. It set in stone the marvel "jokes per minute" method of film makiand convinced them that any character would be successful. Idiots here still parrot that when you tell them whatever obscure character they're convinced would be a billion dollar movie.
My thoughts exactly. Sure, give a spin-off to that character from the movies, whatever
But giving a spin-off to that one character introduced in said spin-off is way too much
Mickey is just about done with its 2013 show and has the educationalshit still
Donald has had 2 different television shows the last 5 years
Neither will get a theatrical film because Disney is worried about fricking them up
What IPs do they have that they haven’t fricked up yet?
They are even in the process of fricking up Figment with a film, they’ve touched everything at this point
>What IPs do they have that they haven’t fricked up yet?
all the stuff they acquired during the 20th Century Fox acquisition
they'll spend a decade or so raping that stuff under their touchstone, fox or other subsidiaries
>"The Black Hole" filmed with a $250m budget with Guillermo Del Taco at the helm with Javier Bardem as the bad guy and Channing Tatum, Elizabeth Olsen, Robert Pattinson, and Bryan Cranston as the crew of the Palomino. Seth MacFarlane voices VinCENT, Ron Perlman voices Old BOB. Tone is "PG-13 Alien: Covenant."
There, Disney, I just made you an easy billion plus dollars
They have to be safe and marketable choices, not autistic perfect world castings. We're trying to save the company, here.
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ok, but I hate Bryan Cranston and every piece of works he's ever done. The others I could tolerate, but he needs to be given cement shoes schnell.
11 months ago
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why do you hate him so much?
11 months ago
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So you can amplify it? Nice try, FBI.
11 months ago
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i like breaking bad but thats all im familiar with i just want to know why you have an irreverent hate for hom
11 months ago
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If I tell you, this board will spam him every single minute for a decade. Is that what you want?
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Are we talking about something that doesn't have to do directly with one of the projects he's worked on? As in, your feelings are not based on one of his finished works?
11 months ago
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It's based purely on his works, I assure you.
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If I tell you, this board will spam him every single minute for a decade. Is that what you want?
I am sorry for your childhood. He will be brought to justice.
11 months ago
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its already gonna happen regardless and it would also be pretty funny
11 months ago
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That's why after this I'm dropping the subject.
Do your worst, but I'll just hide the threads if I can't ignore them.
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William H Macy was my other idea for the "loveable old guy who's quickly the audience favorite who says 'HE'S A MADMAN!' before trying to flee in the palomino only to be blown to smithereens to kick off the 3rd act" role but he's probably too old now.
>https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Video_game
It's funny looking through the list of star wars games, like you have a ton of games coming out every year from the 80's all the way up until Disney gets the IP, then it just falls off a cliff. Disney should have sued EA over the Battlefront flop, that game should have made a few billion dollars on its own.
Also their publishing has been shit too, I don't think there's been a single Star Wars book under Disney that's received any kind of acclaim. They've had a few decent comic books but those aren't as relevant as they once were and it seems like they're starting to suck like the rest of the Disney canon.
What is happening to KK ? Will she be held responsible for Disney's billion dollars franchises fall ? Or will she stay in power like a dictator in a banana republic ?
>The year is 2025 >George Lucas sits on his throne at Skywalker Ranch tower >Disney is looking for a buyer of Star Wars >Kathleen Kennedy has been forced into exile >The franchise is now valued at half of what Disney paid >An assistant enters the throne room >Mr. Lucas, shall we submit your offer?
Soon… soon
Lucas hand picked KK to lead the franchise. Part of his master plan perhaps
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Lucas hand picked KK to lead the franchise. Part of his master plan perhaps
>sell franchise for a trillion dollars >conditional on the franchise being run by an abject moron b***h >the franchise craters >buy it back for a fraction of what you were paid for it
Lucas is unironically a genius if he pulls this off. He'll have fleeced the Mouse for billions.
If you kept reading Spider-Man after OMD, then you're moronic. If you say you're young and got into comics after OMD, then I'll know you're lying. Young people don't read comics, they read manga.
Idk anything about One More Day except that it killed Mary Jane, considered the worst Spiderman comic of all time, and the writer is a deranged basedboy.
I started reading comics in my teens, literally started with a Brand New Day storytime thread over on /b/. Got up to date with ASM, then went back and hit the last few big Marvel events, then started looking at forums for the best runs of various characters, moved into DC, Image and a few others. But yeah I also read Manga, still dip into comics occasionally though.
Iger was the one who pushed this garbage """CONTENT IS KING""" mentality and bought up half of Hollywood for Disney in the fricking first place. Now that everything he bought has been thoroughly ruined I guess he has to backtrack.
Maybe movies could stop having $300 million budgets a piece but that isn't gonna happen.
Iger singlehandedly ruined the company and somehow was able to get away with blaming it all on his patsy Chapek. Michael Eisner was right, Bob Iger does not have a creative bone in his body and is completely incapable of running a business like Disney.
This, he basically ran a Ponzi scheme/shitcoin where they bought tons of shit that was succeeding and did nothing so they had all time best quarterly gains, but are so and creatively they couldn’t plan for what’s next, and tried to offset it on Chapek when it collapsed to blame on him. In other words demolishing the brand integrity and sustainability for short gains
Iger would work as a financial second in command where a creative CEO like Eisner is reigned in a bit with realistic financials. That’s what Eisner had the first half of his reign and why it worked out. I get himself is so uncreative he can’t run this company or compete with others when they get good
>In other words demolishing the brand integrity and sustainability for short gains
you don't know what you're talking about - ceos aren't some all powerful dictators who can do whatever they want. the board keeps them in check.
Disney was literally a cash rich behemoth in a market full of minnows - they would've been moronic to not use their money to buy everything up.
If Apple did that in the early 2000s they would've been globally relevant and not just an american only success story.
Expand or die slowly as ppl get bored of what you make is the only choice at that scale.
They have the Fox library. So a blacked Die Hard, a blacked Alien, a blacked Predator, a blacked Home Alone, a blacked Sound Of Music. Lots of stuff to black.
It's very "American" in form. Europeans are used to b***hing about problems and then waiting around for a politician to announce a new initiative, which will have the goal of appointing a board. The board's goal will be to figure out the best form a solution to the issue could take and then seek out people who they'll pay to sit in a room for a month to debate about the efficacy and cost of implementing a solution to the issue. Once they've finished their debate they'll turnover they decision to the board, which will then go to the nation's government and give them an 8 hour presentation about how the only way anything could be done is if they first let in another wave of economic migrants, otherwise any solution will fail miserably.
Americans will just grab a gun and go try to solve the problem. Efficiency or cost-effectiveness be damned.
The classic, stereotypical American mentality is; Shoot first, ask questions later, if at all.
The classic, stereotypical Euros mentality is; Would it be racist if we put a bullet into this gun?
What's funny is Sound of Freedom oversold tickets because of their whole buy a ticket for you friends thing, but Disney does that too but with their own money. Disney lost way more than it looks like.
Sound of freedom will at least double their domestic thanks to the autistic screeching by the corporate run media. And it hasn't even been released internationally. On a $15m budget.
>implying money is real.
~~*Larry Fink*~~ will just print them another 6 gorillion dollars as long as they swear to keep putting diversity and inclusion in their shows/movies. They don't need to sell a single ticket, it's all play money for wealthy bankers.
You are moronic. Blackrock doesn't work that way. They don't have infinite money and they have no interest keeping companies alive, which can't even make a single dollar profit per year. They don't stay rich by giving all money away without getting a return. You have painted Blackrock as some infinite money boogeyman, but it hardly is. They didn't save WB, and they will not save Disney.
>They don't have infinite money
don't ever look into black rock's finances sweet summer child. you will fall into a pit of bottomless despair.
They are already poised to earn trillions from Ukraine reconstruction.
For a long while Episode 9 was claimed to have a budget of $275 million and made $1 billion at the worldwide box office. People could see the Star Wars movies were underperforming but Kennedy and her supporters were claiming it made a profit publicly. "Sure Solo bombed, but Rise did well" would be the argument
There was also the fact that Indy 5 was in pre-production at the time Episode 9 was released. Supposedly Kennedy was allowed to stay on till Indiana Jones 5 releases. But now two things happened
>Forbes reported Episode 9 had a budget of $416 million before marketing costs are factored in; even if the marketing was at its lowest, $100 million, that means they just barely broke even. >Indy 5 did so badly at the box office that people believe it may overtake John Carter as the most losses for a film
They probably wanted Kennedy taken down for a disaster that she and her crowd can't make excuses for
Indy 5 would have done much better if it weren't for Crystal Skull. Even if 4 was decent, it used up the novelty of bringing back an old character and franchise. I was with friends when 5 was announced and we just collectively scoffed and rolled our eyes. All fans of the original trilogy and not one of us cared about this meaningless cash grab, I wouldn't have seen it even if the reviews were amazing.
more than anything its this, I also hold a person grduge against him for phoning in Han and not fighting for a better treatment of the IP. Clearly he has sway, how else is an 80 year old man fleecing a studio for a 40 year old IP
>ow else is an 80 year old man fleecing a studio for a 40 year old IP
He, Fisher, and Hamill all signed a long-term contract with Lucas for 9 films way back in the '70s.
my fault it was jumbled, meant how else did he get Indy 5 made when 4 failed so bad and no one demanded it
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>meant how else did he get Indy 5 made when 4 failed so bad and no one demanded it
I don't know, but it reeks of him owing a favor or possibly having signed another long-term contract regarding Doctah Jones.
Too late. They already missed their chance to have the OT trio on screen for one last time. Fricks sake, you think they had enough brain to put that in the sequels. But no.
my fault it was jumbled, meant how else did he get Indy 5 made when 4 failed so bad and no one demanded it
Indy 4 was $185 million budget with a $790 million box office. People didn't like the movie, but it still made money. It was likely that Iger saw how well Force Awakens did in spite of the complaining about the Prequels and gave the greenlight for Indy 5 to be made. Remember, Disney first officially announced it in 2016 with intent to release in 2019, so they definitely thought fans would forgive 4
What ended up happening since is Lucasfilm kept doing bad decision after bad decision to the point where the audience, not just the fans, don't trust them. Add to that the negative reaction toward Disney that's been happening since last year and the Cannes release + overwhelmingly negative reviews released a month before the full premiere and it's no wonder audiences stayed away.
listen im an /x/ tier poster, so i get if others dont follow me with tikkum olam, but there is no way the absolute destruction of beloved white male heros the last few years didnt burn all good will. We know were going to learn they never were good, and actually are losers, bad husbands and fathers. im tired of it
>>Indy 5 would have done much better if it weren't for Crystal Skull.
They can't use crystal skull as an excuse. They were fully aware of crystal skull's existence and dogshit reputation when they decided to make another indy movie.
disney waa probably fine with the movies being neutral on returns
its the merchandising they can make the money back on, but they didnt. i saw so much star wars merch in the clearance bins at every store lmao
That one is actually filming and getting trailers. If you don't think it's getting released you're delusional. The Rey movie and everything else announced aren't happening. Like that Lando show they announced? What a shit show Lucasfilm is.
>That one is actually filming and getting trailers.
Yeah a trailer that was released in Celebration but no one gave a shit to upload or leak until months later when Indy 5 was having problems. Nothing suspicious about that at all.
Anyone who thinks this show will be released has no grounds to complain about Doomwiener constantly claiming Kennedy will get fired any day now, as far as I'm concerned you're no different
All I know is it got hit with delays several times. They announced a troony would be in it, had a big hullabaloo about that. Since then there's been barely any word on it.
I also haven't followed it closely, so I've probably missed something.
All I know is it got hit with delays several times. They announced a troony would be in it, had a big hullabaloo about that. Since then there's been barely any word on it.
I also haven't followed it closely, so I've probably missed something.
The actors on the show at Celebration said shit like pic related. The creator also just recently said the show is going to address modern American politics and did a podcast a while ago where she talked about the muhsoggyknee built around Star Wars and George Lucas and how she was upset because people were excited when he was coming to visit to get his perspective on things instead of paying attention to her. This whole show is basically "the Force is Female" incarnate.
>you know >to kind of be in >kind of cool >sort of woman-centered >really sort of going >because I mean, right? >really kind of like in this sort of quandary >sort of her journey >to kind of go
oh I can SEE she's a great writer, a master wordsmith!
these are the scum who are on strike to get paid more? they should be sent to a mine in Africa.
All I know is it got hit with delays several times. They announced a troony would be in it, had a big hullabaloo about that. Since then there's been barely any word on it.
I also haven't followed it closely, so I've probably missed something.
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The actors on the show at Celebration said shit like pic related. The creator also just recently said the show is going to address modern American politics and did a podcast a while ago where she talked about the muhsoggyknee built around Star Wars and George Lucas and how she was upset because people were excited when he was coming to visit to get his perspective on things instead of paying attention to her. This whole show is basically "the Force is Female" incarnate.
But there's another thing that happened >they hired a producer >producer gave up a exec producer gig at Apple+ because she assumed this Star Wars gig might be better >As she's preparing to move to the UK they call her up and say they don't need her anymore >She's annoyed at the abruptness since she was already set to go and gave up another job but would be okay with it if they compensated her >They offer her $5000 and argue they never had an agreement with her >Now she's suing them
Another thing is the strangeness where they showed a trailer at Celebration but didn't bother to release it. Even leakers didn't give a shit enough to release it until Indy 5 was doing badly
good theory but producers operate on good will and connections - she probably implied she would give the good sucky sucky to a guy and then reneged after she got the job.
then she got tossed on her ass - hollywood is full of cases like this.
They've simply finished raping both franchises are are off to defile something else. I wish they'd get tired of raping Avatar: the Last Airbender too, but it seems they have a never ending hard on for that corpse.
couldnt agree more. what people should really focus on is trumps piss tape he made with putin and exposing the russian collusion hoax we spent $380k of our tax dollars on
lololo, the chuddening has already happend. The point of no return has been passed. You are now witnessing the 5-10 years of societal lag until the rest of the populace is done realising they were virgins all along.
I live around a lot of conservatives never heard any of them mention Qanon at all, not even as a joke. Liberals like you seem to be the only ones who ever talk about it.
There's no way they'd do that. However, Disney might "license" George to oversee new SW in the future, maybe. Although I have strong doubts that Lucas at his age wants very much in-depth workings with his Flash Gordon creation anymore and would rather pass off a template--like he fricking did.
Eh, I don't know, they've gotten to a point where a major political party is now gunning for them solely out of spite, spite that's only going to grow unless Disney does a serious 180. I could see a Republican congress passing a "frick disney" bill at some point to gin up some midterm votes.
>a major political party is now gunning for them
moronicans can't wipe their own asses.
Before you call me the opposite of them, liberals can't do anything good because they're too busy licking children's asses.
1. Republican's won't do shit.
2. Even if they would and could, they wouldn't reform copyright because even if they hate Disney they're still in love with most other IP-heavy companies.
so they're halting, let me get this straight
the only series that makes them money
and the other series some dumb c**t keeps green lighting and cancelling projects of constantly for the past 5 years?
>the only series that makes them money
Marvel you mean, right? It's not my thing, and I'm not judging if it's yours, but to be sure, Gisnep has never made dollar one from its Star Wars acquisition.
I told you, the three Star Wars movies they just announced are never coming out. It doesn't matter if Kathleen Kennedy gets fired or not at this point because Lucasfilm's output is going to get reduced down to almost nothing.
This is actually the point at which things might be allowed to be good. Once the bigwigs stop paying attention to something, and fob it off on the B-Team, often there's a chance for it to be half decent.
Kennedy is going to be out the door by next year there's been strong rumors floating around twitter that Dana White(UFC Owner/Endeavor) has been in talks with Iger as of late there's a good chance he might become the next Disney CEO.
>Kennedy is going to be out the door by next year
Uh-huh, sure. Look, maybe it's true this time but we've been hearing about her ousting for literal years now. I'll believe it when I see it.
>Dana White, new Disney CEO.
I can see him doing this and would probably get Disney out of the rut but the long term is fricked. I have heard great things about Dana White and the UFC in general.
This is good. Even when they're making good content it's hard to get excited about it because there's too much of it being made. They need to slow down and give more attention to the stuff they're making.
all you gays who bought porg shit need to have gold stars tattooed on your fricking foreheads so everyone who thought this shit was gay from day 1 can always recognize you
>The year is 2025 >George Lucas sits on his throne at Skywalker Ranch tower >Disney is looking for a buyer of Star Wars >Kathleen Kennedy has been forced into exile >The franchise is now valued at half of what Disney paid >An assistant enters the throne room >Mr. Lucas, shall we submit your offer?
Soon… soon
Dude, they put over a dozen TV shows into production at the same. They went full moron. They need to find a reason for a show to exist before they fricking green-light it.
>flood the franchises with woke garbage pozzed shit >Hmmm, should we maybe not stuff that shit into these movies and make them at the same rate? >No, let's keep the woke pozzed shit but just make a bit less of it.
It is a strategy of some kind. A stupid one but it some what worked >Throw all your darts at the board >One or two are guaranteed bullseyes right? >Okay only three out of fifty made it close enough to the bullseye so we'll just keep them.
an insider rumor was if Indy 5 didnt land Disney was going to pivot to Tron, instead of star wars and Avatar saga. Its the only way to remove KK and Feige without drama
>Wow wtf, flooding the market with enormous amounts of low quality trash content diluted the power of the brand?
What a bunch of geniuses there are over at Yidsney.
Well no surprise for Star Wars since it still has to make a profit after 10 years and the phase 4 of Marvel and what seems the phase 5 sucked and sucks they need to rethink their woke shit if they want the infinity war money
They're literally incapable of rethinking the woke shit because their rank and file workers and even most of the management EARNESTLY BELIEVE the woke shit is the way forward. They all drank their own kool aid, watched and believed their own homoglobo propaganda, and got hoist by their own petard. The organization is now a cult and it cannot be reformed. The only way to save this IP would be to liquidate the company and sell it all off to the highest bidder.
Good. Maybe Disney will give some of that money to poor destitute blacks.
This can’t be true. Fanboys told me only toxic incels believed these brands were losing money
That didn’t happen.
And if it did, it wasn’t that bad.
And if it was, that’s not a big deal.
And if it is, that’s not my fault.
And if it was, I didn’t mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.
me discussing the hall of costs
I mean, even if the writing was 10/10 (which it definitely isn't) the fact is very clearly that they just pumped out too much content to ever be profitable- who the frick asked for "Echo" or an Agatha spinoff?
>Agatha spinoff
yeah but didn't you see her HILARIOUS exaggerated wink? worthy of a 10 episode miniseries
Guardia of the Galaxy set up marvel for failure even if it was successful. It set in stone the marvel "jokes per minute" method of film makiand convinced them that any character would be successful. Idiots here still parrot that when you tell them whatever obscure character they're convinced would be a billion dollar movie.
My thoughts exactly. Sure, give a spin-off to that character from the movies, whatever
But giving a spin-off to that one character introduced in said spin-off is way too much
The truth has a well known toxic incel bias.
>in order to focus on increasing spending on ruining other yet-untouched IPs
What do they even have left?
All their disney mascots like Mickey or Donald,mostly
Mickey is just about done with its 2013 show and has the educationalshit still
Donald has had 2 different television shows the last 5 years
Neither will get a theatrical film because Disney is worried about fricking them up
What IPs do they have that they haven’t fricked up yet?
They are even in the process of fricking up Figment with a film, they’ve touched everything at this point
>What IPs do they have that they haven’t fricked up yet?
all the stuff they acquired during the 20th Century Fox acquisition
they'll spend a decade or so raping that stuff under their touchstone, fox or other subsidiaries
If it'd finally put the Simpsons out of its misery I'd call it a win.
Tron, Zorro, The Black Hole, Blackbeard’s Ghost, The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes, Bedknobs and Broomsticks
>starring zendaya
>featuring idris elba
>"The Black Hole" filmed with a $250m budget with Guillermo Del Taco at the helm with Javier Bardem as the bad guy and Channing Tatum, Elizabeth Olsen, Robert Pattinson, and Bryan Cranston as the crew of the Palomino. Seth MacFarlane voices VinCENT, Ron Perlman voices Old BOB. Tone is "PG-13 Alien: Covenant."
There, Disney, I just made you an easy billion plus dollars
>Elizabeth Olsen, Robert Pattinson, and Bryan Cranston
Yuck to all three. Your taste is horrible.
They have to be safe and marketable choices, not autistic perfect world castings. We're trying to save the company, here.
ok, but I hate Bryan Cranston and every piece of works he's ever done. The others I could tolerate, but he needs to be given cement shoes schnell.
why do you hate him so much?
So you can amplify it? Nice try, FBI.
i like breaking bad but thats all im familiar with i just want to know why you have an irreverent hate for hom
If I tell you, this board will spam him every single minute for a decade. Is that what you want?
Are we talking about something that doesn't have to do directly with one of the projects he's worked on? As in, your feelings are not based on one of his finished works?
It's based purely on his works, I assure you.
I am sorry for your childhood. He will be brought to justice.
its already gonna happen regardless and it would also be pretty funny
That's why after this I'm dropping the subject.
Do your worst, but I'll just hide the threads if I can't ignore them.
William H Macy was my other idea for the "loveable old guy who's quickly the audience favorite who says 'HE'S A MADMAN!' before trying to flee in the palomino only to be blown to smithereens to kick off the 3rd act" role but he's probably too old now.
wdym? Those are all good actors.
sword in the stone is due for live action
>sword in the stone is due for live action
Please don't.
Good riddance, hopefully there’s a mass troony roping from the sheer dismay over this awful news.
Good move, too many shitty films and TV shows.
Can they stop making them altogether?
Great so they stop destroying what was so good in the comics
What's even going on with Skaar's, or whatever his name is, head?
norwood 4
ughhhhhh lemme get ummmmm a parasite worm shieet boy uh
The top row literally looks AI generated.
That abomination pic isn't real is it?
No fricking way top left is real. Looks like a deleted Mario movie scene
>own Star Wars for over a decade
>murder Lucasarts
>put out only 5 video games within that time
Yeah, frick them. It's boomer moronation on steroids.
>https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Video_game
It's funny looking through the list of star wars games, like you have a ton of games coming out every year from the 80's all the way up until Disney gets the IP, then it just falls off a cliff. Disney should have sued EA over the Battlefront flop, that game should have made a few billion dollars on its own.
Also their publishing has been shit too, I don't think there's been a single Star Wars book under Disney that's received any kind of acclaim. They've had a few decent comic books but those aren't as relevant as they once were and it seems like they're starting to suck like the rest of the Disney canon.
Holy shit, they killed Marvel and Star Wars
>let a woman control two of the largest nerd franchises in the world
>in 10 years she crashes both brands into the fricking dumpster
What is happening to KK ? Will she be held responsible for Disney's billion dollars franchises fall ? Or will she stay in power like a dictator in a banana republic ?
Lucas hand picked KK to lead the franchise. Part of his master plan perhaps
Then that proves he's terminally moronic. Ruining your legacy like that is just dumb.
>everyone already hates me and thinks I raped their childhoods
>I'll show them
>heyyyyyyyy Kathy? I think you'd be perfect to take over my IP
He's not THAT hated.
Doesn't matter. All that mattered was Lucas' perception of what the public thought of him.
>sell franchise for a trillion dollars
>conditional on the franchise being run by an abject moron b***h
>the franchise craters
>buy it back for a fraction of what you were paid for it
Lucas is unironically a genius if he pulls this off. He'll have fleeced the Mouse for billions.
Is it over for him, finally? Will they sack the dead weight? Will Spider-Man comics be saved?
Being a Spiderman fan is absolute suffering. I don't know how you still cling to hope after being fricked for this long.
I just pray for their return.
WAITER/EDITOR
gotta make those moneyz somehow
Who the frick is this guy? Pic related is the only Nick Lowe I know or care about
>Pic related
>225x225
If you kept reading Spider-Man after OMD, then you're moronic. If you say you're young and got into comics after OMD, then I'll know you're lying. Young people don't read comics, they read manga.
Stop reading comics and grow up.
Idk anything about One More Day except that it killed Mary Jane, considered the worst Spiderman comic of all time, and the writer is a deranged basedboy.
I started reading comics in my teens, literally started with a Brand New Day storytime thread over on /b/. Got up to date with ASM, then went back and hit the last few big Marvel events, then started looking at forums for the best runs of various characters, moved into DC, Image and a few others. But yeah I also read Manga, still dip into comics occasionally though.
MCU IS OVER??????????????????????
Iger was the one who pushed this garbage """CONTENT IS KING""" mentality and bought up half of Hollywood for Disney in the fricking first place. Now that everything he bought has been thoroughly ruined I guess he has to backtrack.
Maybe movies could stop having $300 million budgets a piece but that isn't gonna happen.
Iger singlehandedly ruined the company and somehow was able to get away with blaming it all on his patsy Chapek. Michael Eisner was right, Bob Iger does not have a creative bone in his body and is completely incapable of running a business like Disney.
This, he basically ran a Ponzi scheme/shitcoin where they bought tons of shit that was succeeding and did nothing so they had all time best quarterly gains, but are so and creatively they couldn’t plan for what’s next, and tried to offset it on Chapek when it collapsed to blame on him. In other words demolishing the brand integrity and sustainability for short gains
Iger would work as a financial second in command where a creative CEO like Eisner is reigned in a bit with realistic financials. That’s what Eisner had the first half of his reign and why it worked out. I get himself is so uncreative he can’t run this company or compete with others when they get good
>In other words demolishing the brand integrity and sustainability for short gains
you don't know what you're talking about - ceos aren't some all powerful dictators who can do whatever they want. the board keeps them in check.
Disney was literally a cash rich behemoth in a market full of minnows - they would've been moronic to not use their money to buy everything up.
If Apple did that in the early 2000s they would've been globally relevant and not just an american only success story.
Expand or die slowly as ppl get bored of what you make is the only choice at that scale.
So what will they spend money on? If not SW and Marvel they have nothing else of the same reach.
They won't spend money on anything. They'll hope residuals from existing products will save them, and it won't.
So it’s the 80s all over again.
They have the Fox library. So a blacked Die Hard, a blacked Alien, a blacked Predator, a blacked Home Alone, a blacked Sound Of Music. Lots of stuff to black.
>a blacked Home Alone
the movie would be only like 15 minutes long because the wet bandits would wipe out kevin with a drive-by shooting
DEATH TO CAPESHIT
LONG LIVE THE NEW FLESH
i laugh
Did we make it? Have we survived long enough to watch capeshit die?!
It was always a fad and it was always going to die out. Spider-Man and Batman are going to be sticking around though.
>Sound of Freedom is BTFOing fricking Indiana Jones
OH NO NO NO
>14.5 million budget vs 300 million budget
Yes.
>14.5 million budget vs 300 million budget
Frick off /misc/ this is why here on Cinemaphile laughs at you. Grow the frick up.
>facts
>Grow the frick up
>Cinemaphile
Of course you're from Cinemaphilembler.
Sound of Freedom hasn't even been released worldwide
Nobody but brainwashed Americans is going to see it anyways so what's the point?
Why would you need to be brainwashed to see it?
Genuinely curious why that film makes Euros seethe so much?
It's very "American" in form. Europeans are used to b***hing about problems and then waiting around for a politician to announce a new initiative, which will have the goal of appointing a board. The board's goal will be to figure out the best form a solution to the issue could take and then seek out people who they'll pay to sit in a room for a month to debate about the efficacy and cost of implementing a solution to the issue. Once they've finished their debate they'll turnover they decision to the board, which will then go to the nation's government and give them an 8 hour presentation about how the only way anything could be done is if they first let in another wave of economic migrants, otherwise any solution will fail miserably.
Americans will just grab a gun and go try to solve the problem. Efficiency or cost-effectiveness be damned.
The classic, stereotypical American mentality is; Shoot first, ask questions later, if at all.
The classic, stereotypical Euros mentality is; Would it be racist if we put a bullet into this gun?
It doesn't. Most of us aren't even aware that movie exist.
What's funny is Sound of Freedom oversold tickets because of their whole buy a ticket for you friends thing, but Disney does that too but with their own money. Disney lost way more than it looks like.
>what is budget and return on investment
are you legitimately 85IQ
Are you?
So that's a yes?
Yes.
indiana didnt even break even holy cope
Sound of freedom will at least double their domestic thanks to the autistic screeching by the corporate run media. And it hasn't even been released internationally. On a $15m budget.
Hasn’t sound of freedom only been out for a few days and only in America?
>it’s better to lose $250 million than it is to make $30 million
Hmm
remove applebee no shows now
Are we still getting Agatha: Coven of Chaos?
>twittercap, of url to newssite
Convenient they announce this after Indiana Jones bombed
Instead of doing this why couldn't they have just fired Kathleen Kennedy and Kevin Faige instead? I thought money is what ran Hollywood?
firing her would be admitting the toxic virgin chuds were right. It’ll never happen
This
Appearing successful and in the right is more important to them
>implying money is real.
~~*Larry Fink*~~ will just print them another 6 gorillion dollars as long as they swear to keep putting diversity and inclusion in their shows/movies. They don't need to sell a single ticket, it's all play money for wealthy bankers.
>I have no idea what inflation and interest rates are.
I know you /misc/tards are stupid, but come on...
You are moronic. Blackrock doesn't work that way. They don't have infinite money and they have no interest keeping companies alive, which can't even make a single dollar profit per year. They don't stay rich by giving all money away without getting a return. You have painted Blackrock as some infinite money boogeyman, but it hardly is. They didn't save WB, and they will not save Disney.
>they have no interest keeping companies alive
>once they served their purpose
And whst is their purpose? Make a shitty tv shows that nobody watches?
>They don't have infinite money
don't ever look into black rock's finances sweet summer child. you will fall into a pit of bottomless despair.
They are already poised to earn trillions from Ukraine reconstruction.
The funny thing is that ESG is managing the boomer pention funds. This is the money behind BlackRock. Boomer money is destroying the world yet again.
K.K. knows where the bodies are buried in hebewood so she is as safe as a Hindu Cow at a vegan BBQ.
Sucking Spielberg's dick has it's perks doesn't it?
"its"
>HA GOT 'EM!!!!
I just want to help stamp ignorance in its face, not belittle anyone. (unless it's funny or called for)
For a long while Episode 9 was claimed to have a budget of $275 million and made $1 billion at the worldwide box office. People could see the Star Wars movies were underperforming but Kennedy and her supporters were claiming it made a profit publicly. "Sure Solo bombed, but Rise did well" would be the argument
There was also the fact that Indy 5 was in pre-production at the time Episode 9 was released. Supposedly Kennedy was allowed to stay on till Indiana Jones 5 releases. But now two things happened
>Forbes reported Episode 9 had a budget of $416 million before marketing costs are factored in; even if the marketing was at its lowest, $100 million, that means they just barely broke even.
>Indy 5 did so badly at the box office that people believe it may overtake John Carter as the most losses for a film
They probably wanted Kennedy taken down for a disaster that she and her crowd can't make excuses for
Indy 5 would have done much better if it weren't for Crystal Skull. Even if 4 was decent, it used up the novelty of bringing back an old character and franchise. I was with friends when 5 was announced and we just collectively scoffed and rolled our eyes. All fans of the original trilogy and not one of us cared about this meaningless cash grab, I wouldn't have seen it even if the reviews were amazing.
more than anything its this, I also hold a person grduge against him for phoning in Han and not fighting for a better treatment of the IP. Clearly he has sway, how else is an 80 year old man fleecing a studio for a 40 year old IP
>ow else is an 80 year old man fleecing a studio for a 40 year old IP
He, Fisher, and Hamill all signed a long-term contract with Lucas for 9 films way back in the '70s.
my fault it was jumbled, meant how else did he get Indy 5 made when 4 failed so bad and no one demanded it
>meant how else did he get Indy 5 made when 4 failed so bad and no one demanded it
I don't know, but it reeks of him owing a favor or possibly having signed another long-term contract regarding Doctah Jones.
It's as simple as having the Ahsoka show retcon absolutely everything Disney did to Star Wars then giving it back to George for free
Too late. They already missed their chance to have the OT trio on screen for one last time. Fricks sake, you think they had enough brain to put that in the sequels. But no.
Indy 4 was $185 million budget with a $790 million box office. People didn't like the movie, but it still made money. It was likely that Iger saw how well Force Awakens did in spite of the complaining about the Prequels and gave the greenlight for Indy 5 to be made. Remember, Disney first officially announced it in 2016 with intent to release in 2019, so they definitely thought fans would forgive 4
What ended up happening since is Lucasfilm kept doing bad decision after bad decision to the point where the audience, not just the fans, don't trust them. Add to that the negative reaction toward Disney that's been happening since last year and the Cannes release + overwhelmingly negative reviews released a month before the full premiere and it's no wonder audiences stayed away.
listen im an /x/ tier poster, so i get if others dont follow me with tikkum olam, but there is no way the absolute destruction of beloved white male heros the last few years didnt burn all good will. We know were going to learn they never were good, and actually are losers, bad husbands and fathers. im tired of it
That falls under Disney-era Lucasfilm making bad decision after bad decision; it's just one of many poor choices they made
>>Indy 5 would have done much better if it weren't for Crystal Skull.
They can't use crystal skull as an excuse. They were fully aware of crystal skull's existence and dogshit reputation when they decided to make another indy movie.
disney waa probably fine with the movies being neutral on returns
its the merchandising they can make the money back on, but they didnt. i saw so much star wars merch in the clearance bins at every store lmao
>Fire Feige even though Marvel is the only Disney movie that made profit this year
Bets on what gets canned?
>Hard mode: nothing currently in production aka filming or pre-viz
My best guess is that Ironheart shit and Agatha (idk if it's made yet)
Acolyte will be the last Star Wars thing to come out for a long time. Even Bad Batch will be put on hold until like 2030.
It's funny that you think Acolyte is still happening.
That one is actually filming and getting trailers. If you don't think it's getting released you're delusional. The Rey movie and everything else announced aren't happening. Like that Lando show they announced? What a shit show Lucasfilm is.
>That one is actually filming and getting trailers.
Yeah a trailer that was released in Celebration but no one gave a shit to upload or leak until months later when Indy 5 was having problems. Nothing suspicious about that at all.
Acolyte
Anyone who thinks this show will be released has no grounds to complain about Doomwiener constantly claiming Kennedy will get fired any day now, as far as I'm concerned you're no different
>the show starring one of the few marketable characters left, and Thrawn
Yeah, they are releasing that one.
You're thinking of the Ahsoka TV show
Oh, I thought that was it
My bad
>can't even keep what little content they are releasing in order
This is the state of disvel-cucks.
I've given up on SW a while ago. Mando S2 was the last thing I watched. I don't keep track with what's what.
I gave up in the middle of TLJ, though I saw the writing on the wall after TFA.
MUH COPROLITE
MUH ASHCANSHITTER
this is why SW is doomed, the "based" fans keep demanding this puke.
Which strawman are you arguing with in your head this time
>strawman
^this is how I know someone is underage because they misuse and overuse the word.
Ok shill
>shills actively bash Soi Wars and Marble
Qrd on the Acolyte situation?
All I know is it got hit with delays several times. They announced a troony would be in it, had a big hullabaloo about that. Since then there's been barely any word on it.
I also haven't followed it closely, so I've probably missed something.
The actors on the show at Celebration said shit like pic related. The creator also just recently said the show is going to address modern American politics and did a podcast a while ago where she talked about the muhsoggyknee built around Star Wars and George Lucas and how she was upset because people were excited when he was coming to visit to get his perspective on things instead of paying attention to her. This whole show is basically "the Force is Female" incarnate.
>you know
>to kind of be in
>kind of cool
>sort of woman-centered
>really sort of going
>because I mean, right?
>really kind of like in this sort of quandary
>sort of her journey
>to kind of go
oh I can SEE she's a great writer, a master wordsmith!
these are the scum who are on strike to get paid more? they should be sent to a mine in Africa.
These are close:
But there's another thing that happened
>they hired a producer
>producer gave up a exec producer gig at Apple+ because she assumed this Star Wars gig might be better
>As she's preparing to move to the UK they call her up and say they don't need her anymore
>She's annoyed at the abruptness since she was already set to go and gave up another job but would be okay with it if they compensated her
>They offer her $5000 and argue they never had an agreement with her
>Now she's suing them
Another thing is the strangeness where they showed a trailer at Celebration but didn't bother to release it. Even leakers didn't give a shit enough to release it until Indy 5 was doing badly
good theory but producers operate on good will and connections - she probably implied she would give the good sucky sucky to a guy and then reneged after she got the job.
then she got tossed on her ass - hollywood is full of cases like this.
Thank fricking god, enough with that garbo. Give David Lynch another movie, goddamit!
They've simply finished raping both franchises are are off to defile something else. I wish they'd get tired of raping Avatar: the Last Airbender too, but it seems they have a never ending hard on for that corpse.
No its not and that movie should be fricking banned. Its creating a horribly dangerous conspiracy theory and Qtards like yourself are eating it up
Agreed, they should have stopped with Crystal Skull. It wasnt perfect but at least had a decent ending.
You sound upset.
Maybe your supply is being threatened. Pedo.
couldnt agree more. what people should really focus on is trumps piss tape he made with putin and exposing the russian collusion hoax we spent $380k of our tax dollars on
lololo, the chuddening has already happend. The point of no return has been passed. You are now witnessing the 5-10 years of societal lag until the rest of the populace is done realising they were virgins all along.
I live around a lot of conservatives never heard any of them mention Qanon at all, not even as a joke. Liberals like you seem to be the only ones who ever talk about it.
>conservatives never heard any of them mention Qanon
Why are you making shit up? Like what's the point?
Well, yeah. The writers strike is going and now the SAG is on strike.
we joke about George buying Lucasfilm back but it could actually happen.
He's an old grandpa, and obviously doesn't want to make any more movies.
His wife is with the Walton Penner Group. You could see Walmart buying Star Wars potentially.
>Shartmart buying Star Wars
That would actually work out well, because Shartmart knows all about selling toys.
There's no way they'd do that. However, Disney might "license" George to oversee new SW in the future, maybe. Although I have strong doubts that Lucas at his age wants very much in-depth workings with his Flash Gordon creation anymore and would rather pass off a template--like he fricking did.
>we joke about George buying Lucasfilm back but it could actually happen.
Angel Studios should buy it with their Sound of Freedom money
Angel studios should be shut down, permanently
Plot twist: It becomes public domain
Will never happen. Anything Disney owns will be copyright extended until our grandchildren are dust. This is because they own Congress.
Eh, I don't know, they've gotten to a point where a major political party is now gunning for them solely out of spite, spite that's only going to grow unless Disney does a serious 180. I could see a Republican congress passing a "frick disney" bill at some point to gin up some midterm votes.
>a major political party is now gunning for them
moronicans can't wipe their own asses.
Before you call me the opposite of them, liberals can't do anything good because they're too busy licking children's asses.
1. Republican's won't do shit.
2. Even if they would and could, they wouldn't reform copyright because even if they hate Disney they're still in love with most other IP-heavy companies.
We need a Herbie cinematic universe. 20 Herbie movies in 15 years
fug, it didn't copy
There is already a Herbie cinematic universe, and it's fricking based.
so they're halting, let me get this straight
the only series that makes them money
and the other series some dumb c**t keeps green lighting and cancelling projects of constantly for the past 5 years?
>the only series that makes them money
Marvel you mean, right? It's not my thing, and I'm not judging if it's yours, but to be sure, Gisnep has never made dollar one from its Star Wars acquisition.
like marvel been failing recently but nothing else disney drops has done anything, and star wars they can't even get 1 movie started since rise
Strange World 2 gets the green light.
I told you, the three Star Wars movies they just announced are never coming out. It doesn't matter if Kathleen Kennedy gets fired or not at this point because Lucasfilm's output is going to get reduced down to almost nothing.
This is actually the point at which things might be allowed to be good. Once the bigwigs stop paying attention to something, and fob it off on the B-Team, often there's a chance for it to be half decent.
Still going to be Kennedy, and Filoni running things.
Kennedy is going to be out the door by next year there's been strong rumors floating around twitter that Dana White(UFC Owner/Endeavor) has been in talks with Iger as of late there's a good chance he might become the next Disney CEO.
>Kennedy is going to be out the door by next year
Uh-huh, sure. Look, maybe it's true this time but we've been hearing about her ousting for literal years now. I'll believe it when I see it.
>Dana White, new Disney CEO.
I can see him doing this and would probably get Disney out of the rut but the long term is fricked. I have heard great things about Dana White and the UFC in general.
Why would Uncle Dana jump ship to become DIsney's CEO anyway?
Just so he can fire everybody Elon style.
no, you need strong chinese ties, expect someone former or current Pepsi-Co
This is good. Even when they're making good content it's hard to get excited about it because there's too much of it being made. They need to slow down and give more attention to the stuff they're making.
>Marvel? Star wars? That's a girl franchise!
Good. They don't know how to make fricking Star Wars anything.
So will everything switch so sexy movies with nudity now?
Yeah, no shit. They just pump out dozens of these fricking DEI propaganda turds with no profit in sight.
all you gays who bought porg shit need to have gold stars tattooed on your fricking foreheads so everyone who thought this shit was gay from day 1 can always recognize you
Star Wars Theory will have to get a real job now.
silas was based as frick aside from simping for the spy
ANYONE WHO DOUBTS THESE DIGITS SUCKS wiener BY CHOICE
>The year is 2025
>George Lucas sits on his throne at Skywalker Ranch tower
>Disney is looking for a buyer of Star Wars
>Kathleen Kennedy has been forced into exile
>The franchise is now valued at half of what Disney paid
>An assistant enters the throne room
>Mr. Lucas, shall we submit your offer?
Soon… soon
They should stop altogether for at least 30 years.
This but they should use that time to make Star Wars video games again.
step 1: burn down field
step 2: let field go fallow for a few seasons
step 3: replant the crop of your choice on the field
its fairly obvious what they've been doing
>its fairly obvious what they've been doing
Salting the field and anxiously watching nothing grow?
Dude, they put over a dozen TV shows into production at the same. They went full moron. They need to find a reason for a show to exist before they fricking green-light it.
it's time to finally use lucasfilm's ace and save disney
Looks fun.
>flood the franchises with woke garbage pozzed shit
>Hmmm, should we maybe not stuff that shit into these movies and make them at the same rate?
>No, let's keep the woke pozzed shit but just make a bit less of it.
Hope they go bankrupt.
>Hope they go bankrupt.
They can't because they own Congress. Their books are fully cooked.
>You don't want to see your favorite characters treated like garbage? What are you? A pedo hating racist Nazi or something?
name one thing "woke" in a recent star wars movie/show
ill wait
you can't
Droid rights
oh so you're racist ok
shitposting aside george himself literally intended for the droids to be the main characters in the end
It is a strategy of some kind. A stupid one but it some what worked
>Throw all your darts at the board
>One or two are guaranteed bullseyes right?
>Okay only three out of fifty made it close enough to the bullseye so we'll just keep them.
>homosexual anime pfp
>follows capesite news account
a true Cinemaphile poster if ever I saw one
>spend billions on IP
>nah were not going to make those anymore
Is Iger the biggest israelite to ever israelite?
an insider rumor was if Indy 5 didnt land Disney was going to pivot to Tron, instead of star wars and Avatar saga. Its the only way to remove KK and Feige without drama
>Disney was going to pivot to Tron
Tron casting proves this is a lie.
Let them die
Sequels are better than the prequels and I'm tired of pretending they're not.
i mean aesthetically TLJ has some of the most gorgeous shots ive seen, doesnt stop me from wanting to shove a scolding hot tire iron up RJs ass though
First time they've ever come to close to an admission of defeat on all this shit
Will we ever reach the promise land anons
She’s ugly.
Cigar frog Jr.
lol Eat shit now b***h. Go clean hotel toilets. Your name is "Conseula" now.
I fricking told you all those gay Marvel TV shows weren't going to happen
>THEY ARE TAKING EVERYTHING FROM US
Star Wars and Marvel have absolutely sucked under Disney's management.
lmao Reys movie is totally on the chopping block.
Good. Frick Rey, the worst character in Star Wars history. Would literally take a film about Jar Jar over anything with her in it.
Not flopping btw
Willow chads, we are so back!!
If you decode you realize he’s saying Disney is hemorrhaging money and losing special tax privileges hurts
It's over.
>Wow wtf, flooding the market with enormous amounts of low quality trash content diluted the power of the brand?
What a bunch of geniuses there are over at Yidsney.
Well no surprise for Star Wars since it still has to make a profit after 10 years and the phase 4 of Marvel and what seems the phase 5 sucked and sucks they need to rethink their woke shit if they want the infinity war money
They're literally incapable of rethinking the woke shit because their rank and file workers and even most of the management EARNESTLY BELIEVE the woke shit is the way forward. They all drank their own kool aid, watched and believed their own homoglobo propaganda, and got hoist by their own petard. The organization is now a cult and it cannot be reformed. The only way to save this IP would be to liquidate the company and sell it all off to the highest bidder.
Sounds like investments turned sour
Disney's Die Hard
Disney's Aliens
Disney's Predators
You joke but I bet they could throw enough money at Zimeckis and make a Disney Back to the Future, now with a black Marty and female Doc Brown.
those digits, what am i about to say sheesh.
The level of freemasonic backdrop, numerology and judaic esoteric easter eggs, will NEVER be remade. Stamp it
i'd watch it, and laugh as you chucklefricks complained every second of the day about it
They should spend less on everything
>acting as if all their content hasn’t been shit
As long as Andor is untouched, I'm good.
>Us
Thank god. Stars wars hasn't been interesting since the mid 2000s and even that was towards the end of the barrel.
>THEY ARE TAKING EVERYTHING FROM US
this is the garbage they're making. I think it's a good thing. both need to go away