They did it, they made a worse duel than Obi-Wan vs Vader in ANH
How does Disney keep doing it?
They did it, they made a worse duel than Obi-Wan vs Vader in ANH How does Disney keep doing it?
They did it, they made a worse duel than Obi-Wan vs Vader in ANH
How does Disney keep doing it?
9 year old me fighting my little brother for the vidya controller:
This particular shot is fine because it shows Vader is just toying with Obi-Wan (fighting with one arm and choosing to intimidate him rather than go for a killing blow), but so much of the rest of it was so awkwardly staged and shot, it's like a very high budget fan film. But curiously low-budget television, you'd think they'd put more money into this.
>But curiously low-budget television, you'd think they'd put more money into this.
Disney have shown they aren't putting any fricking budget into Star Shit shows that aren't the Mandalorian
Even in Boba's own fricking show the CGI and action scenes suddenly got 101293012930219301293 times better when the money making character showed up while the rest of the series was stuck with Rodriguez's hack 2010's filmography style "film making"
Disney knows that a lot of Star Wars "fans" are just normies who don't care about quality so long as they're watching Star Wars. Why would they bother putting money into their shows? Even GOT fans openly complained about their favorite show noticeably going to shit, and they're moronic normies, too. Star Wars fans are even below them.
>Why would they bother putting money into their shows?
Because people with standards drive engagement, and if the bottom drops out it's these people keep you going. It's not a question of 'fan service', but craftsmanship. And they don't have or care about what the creator of it cultivated. What you're left with is cargo cultish empty gestures for references and callbacks, leatherface fan service with the veneer of authenticity which is transparently fake to all but the most moron ape that will probably drop it for the next flavor of content onions anyways.
>Even GOT fans openly complained about their favorite show noticeably going to shit, and they're moronic normies
A high enough percentage of them dropped off after the finale when it was finally clear it wasn't getting turned around; and most "got it" with the Sand Snakes appearance. Merchandising cratered so spectacularly it will be studied in the future, along with nu-Star Wars'.
The entire fight is like that. Vader just wants to make Obi-Wan suffer. That's why he left him go.
It's very poorly staged, and the music is a fricking nothingburger, the fact is people can only -assume- that Vader let him go, because the alternative (that he couldn't overcome a tiny little fire) is that much more moronic. It all feels like very little money went into it
>because the alternative (that he couldn't overcome a tiny little fire)
Who even thinks this, unironically? He literally started the fire himself.
He quite literally built a castle in a lava planet.
Yet the show presents this as "he can't reach him" after he tells the Stormtrooper to grab him
Dude, you really have to be some impressive brainlet to get that Vader "couldn't physically reach him because he's afraid of fire" from that scene.
But he so quickly comes to his senses to walk away, why not walk around at that point?
Sure, some things in this show are motivated, but it feels very saturday-morning-cartoonish how things just happen because they drive the "plot" forward.
+ he extinguishes the exact same kind of fire with the force in the same fricking scene
exactly
>we got school kid boinking another kid with a baseball bat repeadeatly instead of good duel because plot reasons
You are morons, both of you
whatsammatter kiddo? not enough dutch angles? not dynamic enough? NOT ENOUGH LENS FLARES???????
whatever to feel they put efforts into making it good
which they clearly didnt do
But he instructs a stormtrooper to retrieve Obi-Wan moments before. Why let him go? To see what he's up to? He has his own squad of troopers and he's on a planet occupied by the Empire. Why not just capture the woman helping Obi-Wan too?
He thinks it would be funny. Vader was always such a kidder.
I liked the fight too even though it wasn't prequel acrobatics, Vader just toying with weak hermit Kenobi and torturing him with fire. Rest of episode was garbage and dialogue awful
>the virgin two handed wimp
>the chad one handed warrior
At some point in that stance the ~~*saber*~~ touchs his shoulder, absolute shameful work of the stunt choreographer.
This is what action directed by women looks like
>and he was a good friend
There were lots of callbacks to the previous fights in this one
https://twitter.com/zacrfarrell/status/1532393916267364353?t=q4Ds8l5oflxYAsx2WdmMRQ&s=19
Vader in any situation that involves lightsabers is so cool that one MIGHT be willing to ignore bad writing, so why won't they at least make an effort (even a small one) to deliver a sick fight ?
at least Rogue One got one thing right
Manbaby
How did they get the Order 66 scene right, but fricked up this hard with Obi-Wan vs Vader?
This show's ENTIRE budget went into that opening scene. There are genuinely CW shows with better CG and production value. And those always have fight scenes in random gravel pits too.
The opening scene was pretty decent I think, just the lightsabers look off for some reason. I know they use glowing prop sabers now to have actual light to work with, but they seem dim when in motion
Prior, the blade would have a white color ting to it and show that when waving around. Now it's bright green when still, then a dim green when in motion. Anyone else notice this or just me? Luke's scene had the same issue
they used to hold floppy green screen things, they'd use the weight of that in their swinging motions so it seemed like there was sort of "power" or "force" at play... the new props do not have that old flow of familiar motion
The new lightsabers bounce of each other way too much. It's obvious they're cheap plastic.
whats worse is they are just garbage LED lights in them instead of lighting them the way they did originally making them look like god cheap damn RGB gamer bullshit
I don't get what's going on here.
>kenobi is holding his lightsaber up dramatically to block vader's which means he's pushing it toward vader to pushback against vader pushing his lightsaber toward kenobi
>vader pulls his lightsaber back
What should happen is Kenobi's saber should push up toward Vader, hitting him in the face. But it doesn't move at all because this is a pretend fight.
But then Vader brings it back down and hits Kenobi in the shoulder? Which means his lightsaber went through Kenobi's? That or he's tapping Kenobi's blade, which I dunno what it why he reacts in pain if that's the case.
Just so confusing. A good fight scene really ought to be easily understandable. You shouldn't have to frame by frame to figure out what's going on. At least in ANH, you could tell what was happening and it made sense. It was a bit silly, sure, but there was a logic to it.
The poster count didn't increase because you've been frantically replying to every person in this thread trying to run damage control for the Mouse, hence why you replied to me in a minute.
I'd call you a shill but shills get paid. You do it for free, homosexual.
Holy frick is this actually a Disney employee?? LMAO hey troony how does it feel to be the guy killing the very series you loved as a child LEL LOL!
I don't care. That was my deadname's childhood.
Nah. Like I said, he's doing it for free because he's a homosexual and likes the taste of Mousewiener.
Pretty good considering Vader considers himself to be but a 'learner' here by his own admission
Literally looks like ANH
>a worse duel than Obi-Wan vs Vader in ANH
evil can not create
Explains your love of memes, chud
You're right. Frick Yidney.
>back to shitty old man OT style saber fights
>OMG SO CLASSIC AND NOSTALGIC
But they didn't even.
I would respect going back to the kendo roots and having mind games with very little spectacular swordplay, but this is just pathetic.
I really wish they incorporated more real-life techniques into these fights.
Can you imagine a lightsabre fight styled after a rapier fight?
Yes, boring as fuvk and doesnt make any kind of sense because a lightsaber cuts on all sides and not just the tip? Fencing is such a cucked way of fighting, jesus christ, get over your anglo dick sucking.
Get some kenjutsu in there
Never seen this show but it would impossible to make a fight worse than the one in ANH.
Believe me Disney has outdone themselves with this one.
OTboomers killed SW.
nice bait, homosexual.
They kinda did though. They sperged out at the prequels because it was tonally a bit different, and resulted in Lucas selling from fan backlash. People who grew up with the prequels since they didn't have a cement understanding of star wars liked they. Everyone but morons hates Yidsney star warz
I want Al Pacino to play the Emperor.
He will be Pal Patino
>ITS NOT AL ANYMORE, ITS PAL
I didn't really see this as a duel. Obi-Wan is trying to escape and is forced to use his saber, purely defensively
>They did it, they made a worse duel than Obi-Wan vs Vader in ANH
shut the frick up, zoomer
For the show that is essentially a chase-movie Lucasfilm picked the most wrong candidate to direct it. Director just sucks at staging and executing thrilling action/chase sequences. My normie girlfriend who doesn't care about star wars and is not a film buff type at all told me that the show felt "awkward" and "amateurish". That made me sure that the show is objectively shitty
I know it's stupid, but they have to try to bridge that gap. The difference between the PT saber fights and the OT fights is just as jarring as the difference in tech.
They'll also probably explain away the force at some point. Vader is knocking frickers around with the force the whole time. At some point, after all of the jedi are dead, sheev will turn on force sensitive users in general and tell Vader to chill chill chill
>I know it's stupid, but they have to try to bridge that gap
No they don't. The only fight in the original trilogy that can be considered bad is Obi-Wan vs Vader, even then in context it's fine because Obi-Wan isn't trying to kill Vader but to give Luke enough time to escape. There didn't need to be a 15 minute le epic duel.
>I know it's stupid, but they have to try to bridge that gap.
Why do you have to bridge a gap established to be on the fricking desert by showing a rescue and escort mission literally no fricking one ever asked for? Or a fight that should not have happened in the first place because when Vader left him he was just a learner and now they made it that when he left him he was as much of a master as in ANH.
The tech gap isn't crazy to me, it's not that the OT Empire has worse tech, everything just feels more rugged and dilapidated, which you could chalk up to their own regime, kind of like an all powerful state that doesn't care to invest in tech or infrastructure anymore and is clinging to a lot of outdated aging material
It's just a crazy short amount of time for ALL of the stuff to be gone. How old is Luke in anh, like 20 at the absolute most? 20 years a really short turn around.
I love the PT. I also get the fun and need to design new ships, environments, and tech for the PT. It's cool, that's cool. I also get that they did try to squeeze in some transitionary xwing looking types in there. They also could have just had straight up xwings in brand new condition with nicer tech in them.
But frick it, I like Lucas' need to innovate and redesign. He always liked new shit over old, except with characters of course.
If he'd kept control of the franchise I'm sure he would have re-edited again to put some gungans and n1 fighters into the background.
>If he'd kept control of the franchise I'm sure he would have re-edited again to put some gungans and n1 fighters into the background.
Special Edition versions of the prequels, what a fricking nightmare
>he doesn't know about the gungans in ROTJ
Obi Wan was un trained and terrified.
I LIKED IT!!
REVENGE OF THE SITH IS THE BEST STAR WARS FLICK
Vader had no reason not to kill Obi-Wan here. He kills Obi-Wan and the Jedi order is pretty much wiped out entirely (outside of his kids who don't know they're Force users). It wasn't like with Luke in Empire when he's clearly holding back because that's his son, this is someone he had a ridiculous 30 minute fight to the death 10 years earlier that left him horribly maimed. There was no respect there anymore. Vader had no problem killing Obi-Wan 10 years after this.
I always felt like Vader didn't think he was actually about to deliver a killing blow in ANH, Obi Wan didn't resist whatsoever
He still did it anyway. I don't think he knew about Force Ghosts, otherwise he'd know not to kill Obi-Wan.
>Vader had no reason not to kill Obi-Wan here.
It was all too easy. The guy has been waiting for his revenge for 10 years and then this scruffy old hobo that can barely lift his lightsaber shows up. I'd be disappointed too. Maybe he demands a more satisfactory revenge.
>Vader had no problem killing Obi-Wan 10 years after this.
Well, by that point he already knows Obi-Wan is an old man that brings nothing to the table so he finally decides to kill him.
>Vader had no problem killing Obi-Wan 10 years after this.
Vader had no idea that he would actually kill Obi-Wan there. He thought Obi-Wan was tricking him somehow.
>Vader had no idea that he would actually kill Obi-Wan there. He thought Obi-Wan was tricking him somehow.
nice headcanon
Vader didn't even know he had kids until he felt Luke's presence. He assumed they had died with Padme. Otherwise he would have been looking for them, either to turn them, or kill them to destroy all that is left of Anakin.
The ANH fight was always good.
lol
>does a little spin
lmao
Go spin your dilator in your neo-vag.
Lego Star Wars taught me that you can't use force push on people.
Dooku does it to Anakin after cutting off his arm. Obi-Wan and Anakin try to do it to each other during their fight in ROTS. Can't remember if it happens other times.
Well, if that guy is taking Lego Star Wars as an example, Mace Windu force-pushes motherfrickers left and right in the original Clone Wars.
I want to see grevious's alien machine pecker
Windu crushed that to dust anon sorry
So uncivilized.
I forgot about the Dooku one.
please report back to your containment thread
>autism
What do they teach in that galaxy's schools?
the frick does this even mean?
Apparently you havent seen any episodes?
No, I actually haven't. Looks like cheap garbage.
what is wrong with the bottom left screenshot? I mean it looks like shit but is there anything else going on? I haven't watch it.
A guy throws that 'obstacle' in front of them and gets away and they stand there like it's a genuine obstacle and not a thing they can just side-step
They retconned their last meeting? God I hate nuWars
>'When I left you I was but a learner, now I am the master'
>The last time they met vader kicked his ass and forced him to run away
why is this image watermarked
it's a set pic taken by a "news" website
Honestly, the duel was far better than everything else. Vader says "Bring him to me" instead of pulling Obi-Wan over himself; then doesn't extinguish the fires like he just did a second ago and allows some random rebel and her droid to walk away and take Obi-Wan to safety. What the frick? If you wanted to let Obi-Wan get away after the duel, you should have just had Vader say "you're not even worth torturing, you pathetic useless filth" and walk away. Not imply that Vader wants to capture Obi-Wan but also wants to let him get away.
Why didn't Ben just jun away though? Vader can't run.
He could in this episode apparently. Obi-Wan was frantically running and Vader just Jason Voorhes-appeared in front of him every time.
Vader was absolutely shit.
Just wandering around killing kids and people with the force. His "toying" Obi-was was moronic. He force pulled him into the fire and didn't even try to pull him back when Obi-wan escapes. No Storm troopers chase him and Vader makes no attempt to follow him despite clearly being excited at the idea of capturing Obi-wan.
Nutshell: choreography was horrible.