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nothing good came out of this movie if you think about it
Except for Cinemaphile's seething.
You act like that’s hard to do?
>Teehee, I'm such a contrarian for hating the thing the contrarians hate! Go Disney!
>Sony Pictures Entertainment Motion Picture Group
That's what makes this shilling even funnier.
There is Didney again. Such odd fixation.
I'd be fine for a handful of seething threads but 20+ has been obnoxious. I do like seeing new ways anons find to hate the movie. Meanwhile literally everywhere else the movie is getting near universal praise. And then an anon will post some random twitter post to prove that someone else hates it and that's just another bit of pettiness.
It's gotten silly how you can even agree that there are major problems with the film but the autists will flip out if you still enjoyed it overall.
Like yeah I wish more of the spider men stood up for Miles, I really disliked that Ben Reilly was reduced to a one-off joke. But I've seen truly awful and disappointing movies before, people have if good if this film is what pissed them off so badly.
I do wonder if this film will be picked apart more once the recency bias goes away
In your dreams.
This is the same reaction she would have when a boy request feet pics in her DM.
Yes, nobody brought up the dumbness of the 5 year gap of endgame, fat thor, old man cap ever once the theater run ended.
At first, I thought you were being sarcastic but then remember that most people did complain afterwards, hell, I’ve even some people start to turn on GOTG 3 now. A lot of this hype culture is in-genuine.
What are they ripping on GOTG 3 for?
none of those things were dumb
Holy frick, when are you going to grow up?
Shill post
>SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL
Holy shit, you people are fricking manchildren. I'm sorry the movie isn't fricking perfect and didn't treat all Spider-Men like you would do in fanfics. Jesus christ.
Another shill post?
>The movie isn't perfect, SO STOP HAVING PROBLEMS WITH IT, IT'S A GREAT MOVIE OTHERWISE AND ALMOST PERFECT, YOU'RE JUST MAD BECAUSE MILES IS BLAAACK BECAUSE YOU'RE RACIST!
Meds. Now.
>movie isn't perfect
>gets perfect scores
>any criticism is emotion laden and filled with pavlovian vitriol
What did the mouseman mean by this?
>perfect scores
Positive scores are perfect? It's sitting on a high 80 right now on meta, hardly a perfect movie.
t. bootlicker
>he says this while posting on Cinemaphile
God forbid we have opinions.
Shut up discorder, conform or die, stop raiding us and let us jerk this movie off in peace, even if you liked the old one better
Sounds like some 4 person discord raid is going on.
My god, what world do you people live in and how can you bear it?
Really, I thought the film was weaker than the 2nd but for god's sake everyone here acts like it was an affront to humanity.
*1st
>Have literally any problem with it at all
>scream shitting and pissing that the world is out to get you and disney
Take meds.
>nothing good came out of that movie at all
This really sounds like just “having any problem?”
Honestly it's just the middle part with the canon shit that sucked. it started out pretty good, spot was likable with good action sequences, the stuff with gwen and her dad was nice. Then shit hit the fan and everyone started acting like a complete moron. After that it started to pick up more, miles having to possibly see a reality where he didn't become spider-man would have been (and possibly will be in part 2) a good direction for the film.
>it started out pretty good
They could've cut out most of Gwen's backstory from the start and just go straight to Miles and nothing would've been lost.
I like Gwen though. And some appeal to the females is a good thing in a boys adventure.
And please do not subject me to a schizo rant about Gwen's true gender.
Yo, imagine building up characters so they don't feel like empty husks when they get relevant to the plot.
A big problem with several spiders is how little build up they have. The fact i (the one defending this movie) have to point this out instead of you is quite shameful
I agree, they did a much better job of filling out the characters of the secondaries in this movie over the first. Peni and Ham were mostly just silly kid stuff. Noir was one-note.
>Yo, imagine building up characters so they don't feel like empty husks when they get relevant to the plot.
Well they sure as hell didn't do that with Gwen. Half of her story was a recap of shit we already knew from the first Spider-verse, half of it was baiting the "will they, wont they" romance tripe that was the weakest part of the film. They could've easily streamlined Gwen's daddy issues into some flashbacks like they did in the last movie.
Just say "there's a few too many nogs" and you'll feel a world better than all this stressful tapdancing around your issues with the movie.
>the only reason to dislike this movie is racism
Ok mr shill/discord/twitter raider, everything that disagrees with you is racism
You're clearly angry that White Peter isn't the protagonist of this film. If it were Peter dealing with deluded cross dimensional Peters you'd shut the frick up instead of quoting racist posts earlier in the thread.
Go out and get some air, Chudley.
I agree, everything you dislike is racism, you are the moral compass of the universe
>complaint is almost entirely about Gwen
>"JUST SAY YOU HATE N***** ALREADY!"
Just say you don't care about Gwen, it's okay.
i like Gwen, so i admit i'm biased about her backstory. Not your point nor mine are objective truth in this case, just different appreciations of the same media.
He obviously doesn't care for any of the main characters, he's just here to whinge. He went to see a movie about time-travel, we are to believe, and now wants to vent about all the time-traveling in it.
>Just say you don't care about Gwen, it's okay.
I don't care about Gwen. Hell, when did I give the impression that I DID care about her generally? I'm just saying the movie didn't do a good job of convincing me to like her like the last movie did, and just added to how bloated this movie felt.
I still LIKED the movie, mind you. But frick, it really could've used some cut here and there.
>But frick, it really could've used some cut here and there.
This is almost every movie for the last 10 years. 2+ hour movies are the norm. For God's sake don't subject yourself to the Snyder Cut.
>For God's sake don't subject yourself to the Snyder Cut.
Oh Christ no, I'm not a masochist. You are right in how this is a problem with Hollywood in general recently, they sorely need better editors.
>But frick, it really could've used some cut here and there.
At least you're right at this. A broken clock blah blah.
It's a long movie, but I don't have to piss every 2 hours so as long as it's not tedious like Man of Steel I am ok with long stuff.
Eh, it's more about pacing, specially at the last act. Not a deal killer for me, but they could've made the final act more dynamic. Doesn't help the climax happened too early in the movie.
I thought the slow reveal that he's in 42 was pretty effective, and I like the Dark Miles thing. I'd rather have it at the end of the first part than take up a lot of the 2nd act. But that's me.
Nah, there were tons of scenes that merely filled the time because of Part 1 syndrome.
>there were tons of scenes that merely filled the time
Pretty sure both lovers and haters of this movie at least think this same (at least the ones with critical points of view who aren't extremists who only think in absolutes).
As much as i love this movie, i will insist about this issue too.
I liked this movie a lot more than the first because the main character wasn't a burden or overshadowed. Yeah I was disappointed about the out of character side characters, but I didn't care as long as Miles wasn't trash and things were moving forward.
I saw this right after seeing Fast X so having two cliff hanger endings back to back without knowing I was seeing a trilogy in either case kind of pissed me off.
idiot
that just proves right further, not a good character
That's like, just your opinion, Pavitr was great in my opinion, and my opinion is the only correct.
Found the poo-choo men!
incorrect
Unironically the best character in the film.
For me is Hobie the Homie, but Pavitr is a close second. He might've been my fav if his role was more prominent in the last act, but we'll see more of him in the next one so idk. He's great in any case.
>”With great Redeeming comes great doing the needful”
Until certain merch gets announced, if at all, yes. Only troglodytes like this animation, the writing is awful.
Thanks, I'm rooting they find the cure for your condition.
I mean it still had some good animation, but so did the first movie and that one had least had a story.
When i don't like a movie i usually understand people who like it, same goes when i like a movie people don't like. But this is the first time i can't understand why people are cramming their pants over this, its two hours of a story that could have been told in half an hour with the same progression for the characters.
Also in general its pretty funny to see people losing their shit over the live action cameos, like this is something groundbreaking when it has been a thing basically since at least the 40's.
The canon bit is the only big flaw everyone really has with the movie. Everything else is pretty good
>The canon bit is the only big flaw everyone really has with the movie.
Miguel has pushed this on the others out of a misconception involving his own tragedy + the whole glitching issue in general.
He's had too much tragedy piled on him; he's lost his humanity with his ability to quip.
That and their lives have generally followed this similar trajectory of personal tragedy.
Miguel tried to do-over. got fricked by the whole Incursion phenomena, and has reached the conclusion that the tragedy is integral to the Spider-Man thing entirely.
damn imagine that at a face value, you try and fail, like every other spiderman, and then some big spider man comes here with evidence that spiders are universal punching bags. Now wonder spider Society became a cult, Miguel had some science to prove there's "a required amount of suffering"
And honestly, people wouldn't have such a huge issue with the idea of a canon IF there were more Spidermen vocally opposing it
Spectacular would NOT be someone who sides Wil Miguel. It should've been a mini Spider-Man civil war with half of them helping Miles escape, not just Spider Punk
Most of the ones in the Spiderverse seem to have already suffered their tragedy, and may be a bit numb to it. Miguel clearly throws out/doesn't invite all the dissenters.
When Peter Parker suffers his tragedy, it makes him decide to never again stand by when he can save a life. In the movie, every Spider-Man decides to stand by or stop a kid trying to save his dad's life.
True. But they've been living with the idea that cross-dimensional interference leads to planetary/universal doom. with Miguel and inferred others as an example.
So they've lived with the tough idea that saving Spider-Man's Uncle Ben #345,000 is going to destroy the world, WITH Uncle Ben in it.
It's a quandry. You save them and doom them anyway by saving them, and doom everyone else.
Nah, Spider-Man wouldn't do that, everyone was wildly out of character.
I wouldn't say that.
how long is the kneejerk b***hing and moaning going to last this time, anyone wanna make bets?
I give it until the Flash comes out.
>all the replies going "omg why do u care??? ur obsessed!!"
looks like the consoomers are already in denial
>pretty much every single person that watched the movie loved it
>gets universally positive WoM both irl and online (other than this site)
>smashes through initial box office projections, out-grossing entire first film 3 days in
>chronically online chuds that got triggered by a moronic flag appearing for 0.034s still trying to cope with reality with increasingly more detached-from-reality arguments and mental gymnastics
It genuinely gets funnier every day
>ignoring the actual flaws of the movie
>same tired "le it's so successful which means it was good actually!!!" cope
you're all going to either hate or strongly dislike the movie in 2 weeks
Whatever makes you sleep better, little buddy
>a lot of people like it therefore you have to like it too.
That's moronic.
Don't know how your ESL ass read that entire post and came to the conclusion that's what he meant
i'm always up to enjoy a fine dumpster fire.
Because none of them read comics or watch cartoons. They just hang out on this site because they think it's a hugbox for their toxic nature and can't stand the idea of people genuinely enjoying anything.
We used to make fun of that one Cinemaphile autist who called "fun" a buzzword. Then we allowed the whole site to be infested by the same sort of autistic dipshits.
This is what Cinemaphile deserves after forsaking the fun that is ponies.
Yeah, no. That shit needs to stay the frick gone.
Man it's easy to say, but i still get Vietnam flashbacks from that era...
Ponygays deserve their purgatory
>People who are willing to watch the movie watch the movie
>They enjoy it because it's LE SPIDER-MAN RIGHT? I SAW HIM IN CIVIL WAR
I can't talk about the movie because we have no proper rips out. Once they show up, then you'll get proper discussions.
But you know that. You're just making a disingenuous bait post, so here's your
>(you)
>I can't talk about the movie because we have no proper rips out.
What's the matter, anon? No friends to watch it with?
I'm not going to give them money and reinforce this behavior.
I actually have a friend who went yesterday to see it. I spent the Saturday night telling him that the movie's Miguel would be shit and showed him the first 2 issues of 2099. At the time he didn't care all that much, but today he asked me to send him the link for him to read it.I hope it clears his palate.
Actual NPC mentality, try looking at yourself in the mirror for 2-3 minutes every day, it might help you break out of your condition
>like thing
>WOWWW WHAT AN NPC
So this is how living as a chronically online autist is like, huh
If the cope in
is "like thing" to you then yes you are an NPC
>nothing good came out of this movie if you think about it
Wrong
Spot and Spider-Punk
Yeah the spider ben death cult was a moronic idea
I actually think it's a pretty cool idea
It challenged the idea that not every spiderman needs a "uncle ben tragedy" to be spiderman.
that was never a thing
>"We wouldnt even be here if it wasn't for what happened to Uncle Ben"
1990's cartoon Spider-man already had a Pete that didn't lose his uncle.
You know, the one in armour?
the one who provided the key to defeating Spider-Carnage BECAUSE he didn't lose his uncle?
*most of us* wouldn't be here if it wasn't for Uncle Ben.
Even with people obsessed with Miguel's cake, there's still nothing good about it? Then again he's a thunder c**t.
You being upset brought a smile to my face
this Chad gets it
She looks so depressed what even happened
she graduated middle school
considering the mainplot, someone important to her died FOR THE GREATEST GOOD, aka Miguel's delusions.
Didn't her dad already die before the first film?
The plot (aka Miguel) said Spiderfolks need TWO death loved ones in their respective canons, 'cause idk plot convenience i guess, they can't guildtrip Miles with Aaron as he's dead already...
You'd think Miles losing his potential mentor when OG Spiderman from his universe died would count.
*aka the Superior Spider-Man 2099's self-aggrandizement as the Greatest Hero Ever, Better Than Miguel Could Ever Be
i bet Miguel gets up in the morning just to sniff his own farts.
She grew up
They killed her dad in front of her.
me on the right
She started High School
>All these reviews giving ATSV near perfect scores and praising
You know, I think I finally get it. People don't actually Spider-Man, they like the IDEA of Spider-Man, they like his powers sometimes how his rogues look, but they don't actually like Spider-Man, they like the suit and mask tragically and ironically.
It's also taboo to criticize black people in most of the United States.
Black Panther got near perfect scores as well and is the #1 MCU movie on many lists, don't think too much about it
Black Panther doesn't star a kid from a good background, well off upper middle class family, and a good school. That proceeds to glorify ghetto trash culture and stereotypes.
But most things Miles does.
Miles, the black Spider-Man, headlining a movie is an automatic 8/10. What's weird is that even Wakanda Forever got more flack than we're seeing with this so you can't say that black leads is a guarantee of good reviews.
Or
People evaluate movies independently of the preconceived notions in their heads of what the characters are supposed to be and act like and not get hung up over the little details like an autistic moron.
>They killed her smile and her soul
>actually trusting reviewers after gamergate
If you think paid/biased reviews are exclusively a gaming thing you're too pure for this world.
And just for the record, user scores are equally worthless. There's always a pooinloo clickfarm willing to sell you 1000 upvotes/followers/whatever for a fiver. Especially if it's on a platform that can be botted. Just look at He-ra's rotten tomatoes userscore for a prime example. 99% of the 5 star scores are from accounts with a single scoring and made the same month the show released. Heck, some of the accountnames even have bits of html code in them because the bot was coded by a shitter.
There has not been a single Spider-Man movie that keeps the character accurate to the comics (Andrew Garfield is the closest personality wise and people still shit on those movies) and you only feel like this now?
>They made her more faithful to her comics counterpart
>Waifugroomers hate it
What a shock.
I think both versions can coexist. Bright bubbly Into version of Peni with a more cartoonish robot, and more reluctant hero Peni who was forced into her role with an Eva type robot. After a point, a certain amount of changes become their own character, not just a slightly different take on the character
I, on the other hand, wish to be her, like a fricking troon
I agree. And yeah, she's different, but she had her own charm
Like how Cage Noir was more a hard knock detective than his comic counterpart
cuz it was a lame reference to a lame show by a lame writer
only way it could be appealing is by appealing to most of hollywood (pedos)
That's a thousand wiener stare if I ever saw one.
Peni HAD to take 1,000 spiderwieners in order to save the multiverse, it was for the greater good
I thought asians didn't hit the wall until 60
Imagine how badly her exosuit smells of cum and masturbation
These movies' 3D models are TV show level, but they hide it with filters and gimmicks and people slurp it up, fascinating
The spectacular model looked exactly like the fan model from the pc mod
You really know nothing about the pipeline.
I have eyes, the pipeline doesn't matter if the final product looks bad
You may have eyes, but you clearly weren’t using them. Saying the movie looks bad is being willfully obtuse, at best.
>Saying the movie looks bad is being willfully obtuse, at best.
I call them like I see them
Right, and clearly there’s something wrong with your vision.
She looks like more not impressed; specially in possible how the plot's stuffs will come.
>before and after seeing the art of herself online
they probably killed her parents too if you think about it.
at... at least they didn't make peni trans, r-right bros?
Nope. Gwen was chosen for that.
She might actually be a good character in the 3rd movie if we're lucky. No more moe nonsense holding her back.
>moe nonsense
That's what people liked.
They don't WANT the grim Evangelion knockoff in the comics they wanted the happy, cheerful kid from the movie.
>That's what people liked.
Moegays aren't people
We WANT that though
She was fine in the first movie, people want that. Yes I know she's a brooding teen in her comic, nobody wants that, nobody cared about her until the last movie where she wasn't a brooding teen in an anime mecha show
I don't give a single frick about Spider-man, the multi-verse or whatever complicated shit that has come up in recent years
I just like to fap to the e-girl one
Your average spiderverse hater on Cinemaphile
at least that anon is honest. Most haters are bouncing on the futa wiener.
troony wiener*
Futas have penis and vegana, trannies only have a penis.
technicalities, the point stands.
No it doesn't. I would gladly take the wiener of a futa and start a family with her (futas have wombs and can get pregnant). I would never interact with a troony in a positive way.
>says literally one word line
>disappears
why was she shoehorned in? What was the point? Does Peni crave attention that badly? Does she need to appease her pedo fans so badly?
Even the directors thought it would be fricking weird if someone who had such a spotlight in the last movie just up and vanished
Which doesn't explain where Noir went.
She says "miles..."
What a line
Noir and Peni are clearly going to be important in the second half, they had a lot of characters to introduce in the first half.
Including this glorious basterd.
The cast in this second movie is stronger than the cast of the original. I'm excited that they all get mashed together for the finale.
>I'm excited that they all get mashed together for the finale.
Yeah we'll get a quite interesting team
>Miles
>Gwen
>Hobie
>Pavitr
>Peni
>Peter B. (+the baby (Mayday)
>Ham
>Noir
>and no one else who matters
Who knows, maybe even Miles G. joins too.
Computer Avatar Spider-Woman never stood a chance when there are so many A++ characters in this.
Yeah, i can't see her doing anything interesting tbdesu.
At much just mission control (aka just sitting there pressing buttons). Even Peni has a more pro-active roll as mission control character.
Considering Miguel's cyber resources it's a good thing she switched sides.
Peni strikes me as more of an Iron-Girl engineer than a cyberhacker.
>it's a good thing she switched sides
Convenient, right?
btw just to add, i don't really like her design. But it's just an avatar, hope they improve it in the next movie.
I mean, she was fiddling around with her appearance in the movie itself. It's more her color palette is kinda one-note.
I want to lick her feet
did every black spider person side with miles? seems kinda racist ngl
Jess didn't
idk if anybody b***hed about this yet, but how the hell did no one know where miles ended up?
I get miles not knowing, but does the big spider computer not have any memory? It literally flashed a big ass 42 in huge red letters on the screen.... Why would no one check, especially since they KNOW that Miles was bitten by a spider from another dimension.
>computer that sends you into your home universe doesn't have a log
>spider-byte knows which universe he is sent to and wont tell anyone
kinda weird
Miguel doesn't give a frick. He just wants the guy out of the way.
>Peni strikes me as more of an Iron-Girl engineer than a cyberhacker.
I mean she literally makes the robot she rides in.
Her + Takeshi would be unstoppable.
Mulaney/Cage were probably just busy
They didn't even contact those two funny enough.
If only this were the cure for "Pixar House Style" like Mario.
Story: A+
Cast: A
Animation: ungradeably amazing, its an almost overwhelming visual feast
Soundtrack: B, it's exuberance threatens your ability to hear the dialogue at a few points
Spot makes for a great and refreshing villain, like Miles he wants to be taken seriously and succeed in his new forced-upon life as a villain. He's not out to intentionally destroy the universe but might anyway. He's a powerful threat for a Spider-Man.
Return to Discord/Twitter at your earliest convenience
But I like it here in homosexual Thunderdome!
>like Mario.
I can't believe there are people who unironically think this.
I'm saying that the animation of Mario is another example of the safe, generic Pixar style that's become the norm for all big budget animated movies. HtTYD, Despicable Me, Disney, Pixar, it's all within 1 degree of the same boring shit.
Please never speak about animation ever again in your life
>the cure for "Pixar House Style" like Mario
>Mario
>who literally changed the design of the character to make them look like Pixar's
moron
I'm saying MARIO IS JUST MORE PIXAR, goddamn.
>Story: A+
It's awful, everything else is A+
Haters are trying too hard
Are they? This whole hate can be reduced to two points (maybe three).
>Trans Gwen (who cares)
>plot too complex/convoluted (nah, it's quite simple, really)
and maybe
>not enough of previous spiders (they appear at the end, it's obvious they're saving them for the big finale)
If anything, they aren't even trying.
>ignore the objective glaring flaws of the movie, go see it in theaters! it's just haters, hail Sony deliver us from Disney!
I can't think of a glaring flaw. The experimental animation is off-putting to a lot of oldsters (I enjoyed it at 55 but I am an animation fan), and the soundtrack to dialogue mixing has a few short bad spots.
>movie drags on for way too long
>still doesn't have an ending
>AI-looking busy animation for ADD kids
>models look Playstation 3 tier at times
>meh soundtrack, can't hear shit in dialogue
>replaces substance for cameos and references
>dilutes strong Spider-Man brand in favor of spidersonas
>no plot structure of any kind
>story is multiverse nonsense
>thoroughly misunderstands core appeal of Spider-Man
>turns fan favorites into jokes
>pushes OCs and dumbass alternate versions instead
>makes out every Spider-Man to be a fatalist sociopath i.e. the opposite of what they should be
And worst of all it glorifies Bendis and Slott writing which is unforgivable
>understandable
>understandable
>that's a you problem since everyone say it was fine
>another you problem
>first half is a you problem, second half is legitimate as there's been audio issues in theaters for the film
>what? The movie spends the first hour and 10minutes ON substance and plot before we get to the spider cameos
>what does this shit even mean?
At this point I realized you didn't see the movie and just started spouting random shit for attention so here you go I guess
What you are experiencing is called cope, it's fine to enjoy the movie, just don't deny objective flaws
Please, just go and kiss your Tobey wall poster and give it a rest already.
My decoration is minimalist, butthole
Mommy said no to posters eh? Your own fault for trying to hang that Swastika where she could see it.
okay you got a laugh out of me, thanks for that at least
drags on for way too long
So you are an ADHD kid?
doesn't have an ending
Neither did DUNC or Infinity War
>>AI-looking busy animation for ADD kids
Now I'm confused, there are a dozen different styles going on, a lot of them flashy and experimental. That's part of the appeal for me.
look Playstation 3 tier at times
The design and animation are all over the place, Spider-Punk's took the longest to grow on me but did by the end.
>>meh soundtrack, can't hear shit in dialogue
It's a good soundtrack for Miles and Gwen's generation, I agree there are parts where it threatens to overwhelm the dialogue, I'm lucky my theater has good sound.
substance for cameos and references
The cameos are super-brief in a lengthy movie, the main cast are well fleshed out.
strong Spider-Man brand in favor of spidersonas
This is a dumb reach for a complaint
>>no plot structure of any kind
What are you even on about??
is multiverse nonsense
I agree that that particular plot needs to be rested in the next year.
misunderstands core appeal of Spider-Man
Clearly not, audiences love it broadly
fan favorites into jokes
OCs and dumbass alternate versions instead
Spider-Biker woman is the only OC who's even a secondary character.
out every Spider-Man to be a fatalist sociopath i.e. the opposite of what they should be
Spider-Man has always been a guilt-ridden guy saddled with tragedy. The clown who's crying on the inside.
>Clearly not, audiences love it broadly
I was going to respond to your post until I got to this sentence
Thank you for that.
idiot producers wieners sucker
tell what you like so i can say you wienersuck whoever produced it.
,':^)
drags on for way too long
Eh, just the last act, and yeah i think the same (and why the first one is better)
doesn't have an ending
Open for the next movie, that's the point, you like it or not. Cliffhanger standard.
>>AI-looking busy animation for ADD kids
What does this even means???
look Playstation 3 tier at times
In some cases, but considering those models are meant to be references to game universes, yeah...
>>meh soundtrack, can't hear shit in dialogue
There's a technicall issue reported about the OST burying dialogues, yeah. i had no issue in my theater, but some friends got it on their end. Hope they fix that.
substance for cameos and references
It has both, nothing bad at including Spiderman content in a Spiderman movie.
strong Spider-Man brand in favor of spidersonas
...what?
>>no plot structure of any kind
The plot is easy to follow.
is multiverse nonsense
The Plot is easy to follow.
misunderstands core appeal of Spider-Man
Pretty sure that's the point, deconstructing what means to be Spiderman. Your classic Spiderman will still exists no matter what this movie does.
fan favorites into jokes
what??
OCs and dumbass alternate versions instead
Are you repeating points with others words?
out every Spider-Man to be a fatalist sociopath i.e. the opposite of what they should be
Just Miguel falls into this, and the movie isn't shy about it.
I'm not interested in having a back and forth about your cope regarding the movie's flaws
Then why did you comment about these in the first place?
You shit in the floor yet refuse to clean it, and your own ass.
You or someone else asked about the movie's flaws, since you (or that someone else) didn't notice them, I pointed them out
Aside from one technical issue, all of them are "I don't like Miles Morales or movies with this plot".
Then why did you even see it? Why are you even here?
It didn't bait and switch you, it advertises it's plot beats in the trailers pretty obviously.
If your strawman makes it easy for you to sleep at night, so be it
Patronizing is one of the last defense of the intellectually spent.
You went to see a movie about "Miles saves the Multiverse" and you want to complain about the Multiverse shit in it.
Time-Travel and Multiverse flicks always require a healthy suspension of logic to enjoy. So in the future avoid them??
Yeah, and therefore now your comment is open to be deconstructed in the same way. Damn opinions, right?
Emotional bias and cope isn't actually deconstruction
>everything is cope is i don't like it
Man, the lack of self awareness. At least people aren't called your bullshit cope. Just moronation.
I never said "I don't like it", I simply pointed out the flaws, your emotional answers betray a bias though, again, I also like lots of flawed things, but I don't deny their objective flaws
Most of your "objective flaws" are subjective shit. The only ones you were right are the pacing issues (and yeah, the movie has those, i coincide on that). The audio issues are present just in some theaters, as it's a technical issue outisde the movie, as some theaters didn't have said issue.
Anything else you said can be reduced to "me don't like it."
>dozens of examples of Spider-Man saying he'll never stand by and watch someone die if he can save them over the decades and various incarnations
>movie has every single Spider-Man stand by and let someone die and even prevent his loved ones from saving him except Miles
>this is somehow subjective shit
Cool off for a bit then reflect on the movie again
...you just watched a review? Like, i feel anyone who watched the movie (not just mindlessly see it) might get Miguel is manipulating the rest...
>every Spider-Man would fall for Miguel's shitty explanation which doesn't make sense to audiences not even invested in saving the fictional lives, let alone to in-story Spider-Men who should try to find holes in it so they could try to save more people
That's not very good writing, there should be hundreds of high IQ scientists among them and they just go along with what's clearly a faulty premise which will probably be shown as wildly incorrect in the next movie, meaning that every Spider-Man let people die for nothing.
Man, i'm glad i can get subtext. Spidermen are smart but also emotionally broken. Emotionally broken people are easty to manipulate. Miguel is using that to fuel his own death cult, to please his ego, to justify his actions. Hell, he's even using his own mistakes to induce more fear at the other spidermen. It's a literal death cult parallel.
The movie isn't perfect (there's no such thing), but your points are just (you) being a media illiterate.
Writing it so that every Spider-Man falls for it except Miles is garbage writing anon, I get if you like the animation or the references or whatever, but there's no way around this monumental failure to understand Spider-Man by the writers
>Writing it so that every Spider-Man falls for it except Miles is garbage
Miles in an anomaly, he isn't a Spiderman, at least not in the conventional sense. That's the movie point. This isn't your Spiderman, and it's okay, you can still enjoy your Spiderman.
>you can still enjoy your Spiderman.
I can't, they made him a death cultist
You don't like this movie, you can live as it never existed. Crazy concept, huh?
Pretty sure this Miguel and the comic Miguel aren't even the same.
>You don't like this movie, you can live as it never existed. Crazy concept, huh?
I can't since because of this movie all Spider-Man media is filled with dumb shit
>Pretty sure this Miguel and the comic Miguel aren't even the same.
They did it to every other Spider-Man as well
...now you're chosing to be mad at nothing. i'm glad i can ignore media i don't like. Cruella never happened in my book. The Black Mermaid? just media bullshit i don't even consume.
101 Dalmatians and Little Mermaid aren't ongoing franchises with constant media to ruin beyond repair
Let's see then
Toy Story 4 never happened for me. and the franchise is still active (TS5 is a media myth).
Hell, a lot of media i still love is already done, killed, but that doesn't stop me for still enjoying it.
Stop being so dramatic, you manchild.
This movie has not l ft anything beyond repair.
Calm yourself and go read something that makes you happy.
Basically nothing would make him happy except for 13 versions of Peter fighting interdimensional Evil.
And the Peter who IS joining them is Best Peter, the world-weary mentor with MJ and kid that the comic Spider-Man always deserved.
Any Peter that tells a 15 year old "your dad has to die don't fight it" is no Best Peter
i.e. the opposite of destiny
Old Peter seems to think it isn't possible, and that interference from other Spider-Alternatives is catastrophic to the whole dimension, which would doom his family anyway.
So he's a terribly written Peter then
They have a clubhouse filled with a thousand(s) Spider-Men who've all suffered the same losses.
That makes it pretty believable that its some Grand Destiny/timeline shit, and that altering said timelines drastically from the outside is a disaster. Their original intent was to let Miles' life play out as per usual, and Gwen fricked that up.
>all of them believe it
>Miles doesn't
Terrible writing
Unlike them, and like India's Spider-Man, Miles hasn't been hit with advanced warning.
All the others have the tragedy in their past and gotten over it, that's why Miguel has them there.
Gwen was Spider-Biker-Woman's recruit, and Miguel is looking for any excuse to throw her off the team as she's a compromised liability likely to rescue her own family.
>multiversal council of Spider-Men know their two new young recruits' dads could be in deadly peril
>instead of trying to find a solution to save them with the months of time they have, they instead try to brainwash them into accepting it and one even accepts it
>Miles is the only one that does what Spider-Man would've done and reject the notion it has to happen
Shit writing
India Spider-Man would likely reject it too. In fact a whole rooftop of them did.
Gwen was emotionally compromised and felt she'd already lost everyone, so she was doing stupid shit out of her own hurt.
>multiversal council
Its a dimensional clubhouse for fighting incursion baddies and turning them in.
There's no council, there's Miguel dictating the fight vs the Incursions.
>multiversal council
your Rick and Morty is showing, bud.
That's literally what it is. And Rick and Morty got the idea from the Council of Reeds in Fantastic Four in the first place.
>That's literally what it is
A council needs several people taking decisions. This isn't the case, it's just Miguel.
The Council of Miguel the Latino c**t (alone, by himself, just him).
he's very flawed but a good person, pretty sure that's his stick.
This. There are Spider-Men who've already been hit by all the tragedy recently and are numbed, and will probably accept this whole Destiny schtick, Uncle Ben essentially sells Destiny to them.
Then there are ones who haven't like Mumbai's Spider-Man, who still TRY to prevent the tragedy but feel they are doomed to fail. The ones who haven't suffered it yet, and are unlikely to buy into the Destiny story Miguel keeps seperate or throws out.
>Uncle Ben essentially sells Destiny to them.
This is literally the opposite of what happens, if Spider-Man believed in destiny he wouldn't go out every day risking his life trying to save people
Ben literally tells him that he's gifted with Power for Purpose, with a responsibility to do Great Good.
I would agree with the death cult manipulation as an answer to criticism if it weren't for the fact that it has no support in the movie. You're assuming that everyone joins the death cult because they're emotionally vulnerable, that isn't ever actually shown to be the case.
Do you fricking know anything about the character of Spider-Man? They're all emotionally broken!
>That's not very good writing, there should be hundreds of high IQ scientists among them and they just go along with what's clearly a faulty premise
Just like real scientists when asked about whether IQ is heritable.
No one believes Miguel is manipulating them. That's such a stupid take. I'm honestly surprised that guy is getting away with as much as he is given how many cliche villain traits he has.
The biggest flaw in the Canon plot is Miles' home dimension (not 42) already had a Spider-Man who experienced the same tragedies Miguel wants Miles to have, i.e. Miles' home dimension already satisfied the canonical experience.
And also Miguel's incursion has frick all to do with canon events, and also it's obvious Spot is fricking up Indiaverse, and also they had no reason to tell Miles at all, and also Gwen's dad quitting as captain just solves things but no one tried, and also they believe an algorithm model that even the AI that made it doesn't believe in that much, and also the whole plot is full of holes and contrived so Miles could say
Masterful post, you got me there
Listen, I am SO SORRY your plans for this week to post a hundred "Go Woke, Get Broke" threads are fuxxed. You still have the Little Mermaid to sneer at, so there's that.
I don't care about your allegiance to a corporation, free or paid
Every big budget movie you like is made by a corporation. Stop acting like a child.
Cliffhangers are fine but it felt like it wasn't building up to a TO BE CONTINUED and you just kinda get slapped in the face with it.
Infinity War had an ending. Thanos won. This ends abruptly.
>"story is multiverse nonsense"
This isn't a flaw, you just listed an attribute of the movie and called it nonsense.
This is like saying every Spider-man story is shit because it's all just superhero nonsense.
There's a sensible way to do multiverses, and a nonsensical way, this movie went for the latter option
>There's a sensible way to do multiverses
such as?
The first movie, Rick Potion #9, Coraline etc. None of this muh timestream muh fixed points in time muh canon events muh multiverse collapse muh multiverse council shit
>Rick Potion #9
You're an imbecile. This shit is literally what Miguel's backstory is shitting at.Moving at other dimension to get away with everything.
>Coraline
And a media illiterate, Coraline doesn't fit on this.
This. Coraline is just a Witch in a pocket dimension making a "better" paradise to eat children. It has nothing to do with Multiverses.
>You're an imbecile. This shit is literally what Miguel's backstory is shitting at.Moving at other dimension to get away with everything.
In Rick Potion #9, the multiverse is used very briefly at the end, to pull out a surprise status quo shakeup which is one of the reasons the show became big in the first place, which was a sparing and smart way to use the multiverse. Miguel's backstory is just the same shit Kingpin, Multiverse of Madness, Flash etc all did and it was bad in all of them, and it's just a tiny speck in the grand scheme of multiverse bullshit the movie is full of.
>to pull out a surprise status quo
Okay, now you're just trolling... right? One can't be this stupid...
>no argument
Concession accepted
Are you going to go and be moronic in a different thread now? Is that the signal?
i can't give an argument to such stupid bullcrap.
But heh, any R&M fan deserves no respect these days. lmao. i had my fun, enjoy the evening.
You're just dragging people down your moronic level, and winning by experience down there.
Maybe you should go back to twitter or reddit
You haven't even seen Flash, and Strange was at no point trying to move into another dimension to find happiness.
Flashpoint is a well known multiverse story anon, Wanda was trying to live in the Illuminati universe with the kids, and Strange himself tried to find a timeline in which he can be with Christine in his What If episode
>canon events muh multiverse collapse
Is clearly a massive misconception on Miguel's part. He caused an incursion by going to live in another parallel Earth. We are not even 100% that it caused it directly (but probably did).
The whole Canon Event is misplaced importance on their similar parallel lives.
That's still the plot, even if it turns out false the audience was still subjected to shit that Doctor Who played out decades ago just as misdirection
>incursion
Holy shit, dude. You just solved the movie for me.
It was established in Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness that if you spend too much time in an alternate universe, then the new universe will eventually collide with the old one, destroying them both. The only way to avoid this is if the new universe you're in was *already* destroyed, in which case, it's Free Real Estate. (This was suggested in Multiverse of Madness, and confirmed in Guardians 3, when Gamora was able to universe hop because her old one was destroyed.)
I thought Spider-Verse wasn't using that plot point because Sony wasn't building their stories around what the MCU was doing. But I was wrong. What Miguel discussed was an incursion event caused by him taking up residency in the wrong universe, but the movie was so busy that I didn't realize it. This is all pre-existing lore and Spider-Verse IS consistent with the MCU. Thank you for explaining it.
but that miguel was dead, he was replacing the dead Miguel and an incursion still happened
yes, incursion happens when someone spends too much time in a universe that isn't their original origin. replacing yourself doesn't change that
In short: none of this would have happened if a crazy witch hadn't killed the only group that avoided these situations.
That universe still exists, cap went there for a while to put the stones back. and stayed there for a majority of his life with alt peggy.
>ignore the objective glaring flaws of the movie
Yeah the movie is flawed, just as most media (if not all).
So what? i like it anyways. Also Disney getting mentioned again. Now that's rent free.
Holy hell you type like the shilliest of shills
Shills are trying too hard
It doesn't need shilling here; it's got great word-of-mouth everywhere. The Haters are just excited that there's something worthy of gaining contrarian cred over.
not getting paid to post fanart of my favorite spiderman m8
Good morning sir
Good evening sir! beautiful day we have!
postan
Good mornin gsir
>no worries or issues
>gets to frick his GF every night
>doesn't have to feel guilt over captain dying
Indian Spider is living the life man
Missed out on meera Jain in future though.
please post more Spiderpajeet
he cleans the crime out the streets so you can poop on them
>shill
>likes Spider-Pajeet
This is poetry.
>shills pretending shills don't exist
Classic
Hey, wait a minute, Miguel did the same the Kingpin tried to do in the first movie...
A Rick Sanchez.
he turned himself into a pickle and screamed and moaned at mcdonalds for onions sauce?
Close, but i refer to dimensional jumping to get his family/lifestyle back. Equally moronic if you ask me.
And the tormented Spider-Men, including the one in psychotherapy, shows they have a tough time dealing with the situation. Not to mention all the ready defections.
I think Miguel is just bullying everyone to stay in charge. I wouldn’t be surprised if Madame Webb shows up in the third film and tears him a new one for all this “canon” nonsense.
at least her haircut looks better
Peni Parker is cute
She seen the porn
She's just disappointed in humanity.
Can someone explain why the Pajeet Spider-Man tried to save his Captain despite knowing that it was pointless?
The movie is badly written
Because it hit him personally. And he also readily defected.
Yet none of the other Spider-Men act impulsively to help Miles?
He is said to be apart of the Spider-Society though. And if there’s a rule on not telling new recruits about canon events that didn’t happen yet, why would Gwen be allowed in when her’s didn’t happen yet and why would they tell Miles about his dad dying?
So they’re allowed to try but others aren’t? That really contradicts the core of Spider-Man considering they’re not supposed to just take the easy way out. They should be actively working with Miles to prevent his dad from dying.
>Yet none of the other Spider-Men act impulsively to help Miles?
Spider-Punk quits immediately and starts helping Gwen to help Miles, then joins up with Gwen.
>why would Gwen be allowed in when her’s didn’t happen yet
Because the senior Spider-Woman seems to hold a high position in Miguel's regard, and she recruited her, and still Gwen is on eggshells with Miguel. He seems to think her abandonment of her whole dimension has damaged her enough to go along?
Nah, I dislike Tobeygays, and that has nothing to do with racism. Raimi edits aside.
>Out of an infinite number of Spider-Men, the only one who helps Miles is an anarchist who just wants to see the world burn
This doesn’t help your point at all. If anything it just highlights the problems even more.
There were only a handful even aware of Miles' existence. The rest of them were just ordered to grab a Rogue Spidey. Not kill him. Put the grab on him.
Everyone else is just there to hunt and turn in Incursion bad-guys.
yeah the way I interpreted it was that the Spiderfolk its happening to is more than allowed to try and stop what the group sees as "the inevitable" but if someone else gets involved then it could become an incident and destroy that universe. I agree that its a bit of a cop-out, but I also imagine most Spiderfolk arent super idealistic and would rather play it safe with one guaranteed death than the possibility of a reality ending.
I got the impression that Gwen was the first to hear the Grand Spiel who hadn't already suffered the "canon" losses.
And she started fricking up Miguel's grand scheme almost immediately.
>I also imagine most Spiderfolk arent super idealistic and would rather play it safe with one guaranteed death than the possibility of a reality ending
The entire point of Spider-Man is being idealistic.
Sure, but maybe not necessarily enough to risk a universe's destruction idealistic. Theres a difference between being an optimist doing whatever you can to help people and risking a dimension with trillions of lives in it. Spiders-Man sure aint gonna do it for example.
My point is that there are different levels of idealism.
>Sure, but maybe not necessarily enough to risk a universe's destruction idealistic
Yes they are, Miles does it, they would've done it too.
thats not how personalities work
Theyre all different people with different experiences, save for a few repeats
>Infinite number of Spider-Men
>Only one of them acts like Spider-Man
Nope. Still moronic. Personalities don’t get in the way of the code they are supposed to uphold.
>Yes they are, Miles does it, they would've done it too.
Miles is willing to take outrageous risks for HIS family, he probably wouldn't risk Noir's entire dimension?
>Spider-Man would only take huge risks for family and not for strangers
How did they miss the point of Spider-Man THIS much, even fricking MCU-man risks the universe to save villains
>Huge risk
>Disrupting the timeline of an entire parallel universe after being informed it has a major chance of wiping everyone out entirely
That's not a "huge risk" it's borderline insanity.
Yeah, Spider-Man is pretty insane when you think about it
Peter has risked all of reality to ensure that other characters were saved in Edge of Time and No Way Home
I don't think he knew since he's only been spiderman for 3 months.
This, I don't remember him having a dimensional watch, he's in Miles' boat, he's met Gwen and some others but not on the clubhouse.
I imagine that all of them try. The point is that Miles is an anomaly and might actually be able to save him, thus possibly dooming his universe.
Isn't this her "edgy EVA" look from the original comic?
Pretty much except for the hairclip missing
a'ight,, but imma do my own thang blud
>schizoid derailed a peni thread into his own ego trip
So many cases...
She should’ve just replace Spider-Byte in the movie and be the one to send Miles “home” instead
>Before Cinemaphile
>After Cinemaphile
Fellas, why didn’t they include the best Spider man
Pathetic (and not even canon)
RIP Hop Pop.
just post the fricking porn already
Calm down, my coomer friend, this is a blue board, wrong place to ask for that... The miserable eyes are looking, and they crave for false sense of purity.
They literally killed off her parents which made her depressed and dead inside.
Hear me out... I don't mind it. There's a certain "I can fix her" part that activates my neurons, wouldn't you want to help her go back to her usual cheerful-self after all the shit that happened?
They weren't black enough.
WHERE THE FRICK WAS SPOODERMAN?
WHERE WAS PIDERMAN?
It was worth it to get her proper comic sp//der
>no longer cute
>no longer funny
>depressed, angsty, dead parents, dead-inside
WHAT DID THEY DO TO HER??
spider-man happened to her. it's the plot of the movie.
Her dad fricking died inside her EVA.
Inagine driving that shit as a guinea pig ala Shinji Ikari while remmebering that your dad died inside that thing
Not only did he already die before the first movie, but she isn't even in the same bot. You're insane.
She's a troony you know
And your point is?
Why would Peni be a troony
So these are the only spidermen that are on Miles' side?
So how is the next movie going to work between 9/11 Spiders? Sounds like everyone except Gwen and Peter are just mostly going to be there and do like 1 or 2 things.
Why are mods Deleting new Spiderverse posts?
Anyways who was your favorite spiderman?
https://tiermaker.com/create/ranking-different-versions-of-spider-man-137573
Anons, there's a server with the movie in HD, you know what is the URL, right ?
Can you share it ?
I want to rescue Peni from the Spiderverse. I need to protect her.
She got in the EVA.
I mean she's supposed to be an Asuka-expy
She's not an insecure c**t like Asuka.
I hope we get more of her backstory, I wanna know if the plot of Evangelion literally happened in her world and it made her depressed.
The state of Gwen discourse has brought Peni stocks way up. Why bother with all that drama?
Even discussion in this thread has been more interesting, 'cause people here are actually discussing the movie. The Gwen threads are just both moronic sides of the trans conflict throwing shit at each other, the movie doesn't matter anymore there.
i like Peni threads.
Peni threads were peak comfy because Peni is so cute.
I always treated e-girl characters as a funny gimmick for people who are simply different from me and never imagined myself having such strong feelings for a character that is younger than me, but she changed it. So much that I scanned every single Peni thread from Cinemaphile archives. She just hits different. I love her so much.
The movie is not finished so for me for now it's a big mess.
Sure it looks nice but Puss in the Boots was able to achive the same and have good plot, even with deconstruction of the main character ect.
>The movie is not finished
Yeah for me, and i love this movie, this is its biggest issue, and the source of it's pacing problems. It's obvious this movie got cut at half to make two movies from it, so they can get a trilogy. Why? i've never get why franchises need to be trilogies. i bet i'm gonna love the next movie too, but at the same time i'm gonna be contantly thinking at how they could've saved time and improved the pacing of both movies by just making it one.
>Why? i've never get why franchises need to be trilogies.
I presume the whole movie would be 4-5 hours long so that's why they cut it in half. Nobody gonna watch such a long movie in cinema, it just doesn't work for many reasons. But cutting movie so badly, not ending it in some kind of arc is just terrible.
>Nobody gonna watch such a long movie in cinema
i wish to be this naïve...
it is not only about watching a 4-5 hous long movie. but also paying for theater's room rent. the longer the movie the more you have to pay for it to be ran. since it means the theater will have less movie to as an option and the session are gonna be longer. 4-5 hours long movie, means only two sessions of it will happen during the whole day. both owners and customers are already getting mad that every other movie now is 3 hours long
It makes me mad how much I love Peni Parker. The idea that I will need to wait another five years for even a single second of new material drives me to violence.
They might revive the comics if you pray to Stan Lee hard enough. Because unlikable grouch Peni and endless Evangelion references were just so good, rite?
Spirdervese Peni >>>>>>>>>>>>>> comics Peni
Marvel could take the spiderman hype and make new comics about some of these spider people. IMO a Penny comic could work with the cute Gwenpool artstyle
Oh yeah. Gwenpool has that cartoony anime style that fits her playful nature and that Spider-verse Peni would fit into as well.
Actually I just checked and the next movie is scheduled to come out in less than a year, so we won't have to wait too long. Everything is going to be okay 😀
Would the original Spiderverse movie improve if we replace Gwen with Peni (and viceversa)?
What if they replaced Miles with Peni and kept the relationship with Gwen?
Is the world is ready for a girl-futa romance in spiderman though?
Transgender gay representation in a mainstream movie? That ticks like a whole bunch of the boxes.
>Miles is off screen sucking Spider-Gwen's troony wiener while massaging his giant prolapse.
>still only one artpiece of the new design
It's your bog standard mutt goyslop. What the frick did you expect it to be other than garbage.
I thought it was really funny that Gwen did actually kill the lizard instead of the serum merking him also, she never apologizes to her dad for ditching him for months.
Did she kill him? I thought he just knocked over a pillar and it fell on him.
Character development and lore is vital for a good continuing story.
This site is a fricking joke.
Correct. The fact that there is only one thread complaining about how Peni was treated is unironically disappointing. If this movie had come out in 2019, or god forbid 2020, there would have been at least 3 threads running 24/7 for two weeks, minimum.
>Complaining
>Worried
>About character being now closer to their actual canon selves
What? have a nice day.
You didn't pay for the manga that eventually got canned huh
have a nice day
What fricking Peni manga?
I don't give a shit about the comic Peni, why would I encourage them to make more material of her? It's not the same character you fricking moron.
>Character Assassination is not okay!
>Except when it panders to me!
Kys
When the character being assassinated is bad and the new one is objectively better, yes it is.
She’s been following the propaganda of Miguel for at least a year and reluctantly was having to stop a friend “for the greater good” knowing it would hurt him in the process. I’m sure that she’ll be more upbeat in the sequel having chosen to join Gwen’s team which will find the more hopeful path
I'm really annoyed that we're never going to get a Peni spin off. I'd pay for Spider themed anime adventures.
I wouldn't say never, they know she's the most popular supporting character. Still very low priority, though.
I more worried it won't be ITSV Peni but comics Peni. I want my happy-go-lucky murdere-girl in a ball mech fighting the weirdest/most anime version of spider villains. Living wrecking ball into her villans
I think it'd be more of a mix of the two. Like, the villains in world are so vile that she's had to do some horrible things herself to keep them neutralized. Probably had to burn a couple of them to death.
*her world
frick
Cinemaphile tourist here, happy to see this board has elected its TotK for the year
It's mostly just two Miguel fanboys shitting up discussion.
>Tom got here
frick off
>fun, hyped, and loved thing that has triggered a dozen of turbo contrarians who think hating on it is a substitute for a personality
Lmao this is so accurate
>leave alone the billion dollar corporations!! I tied my identity and happiness to their success!!!!
Sad what being terminally online did to young people
The best way to describe this movie is filler, miles needs a good villain, or even someting as simple as a goal really
A villain turning into himself in Anti-Spiral to make him his "good villain" isn't motivation enough? It was an act 2 that is setting up a bunch of dominoes, it's not filler.
Shitty meta self-aware millennial writing, just write a good story without NOOTICING and deconstructing all the time how fricking hard is it
>Shitty meta self-aware millennial writing
Pretty sure meta referencing has existed for a long time already...
It was never this prevalent before, everything is just "look I noticed this I noticed this I'm so clever I noticed this"
What happened to her?
She got raped
People close to her died and
got viciously raped by a man in a G0b1in Armor.
she saw all the 34 the internet made of her
Soul vs Souless
I want to hug her and tell her it's alright and feel her body convulse as she cries
Holy shit, all this thread showed is that Cinemaphile got utterly filtered by a simple fricking movie. Try paying attention next time to movies or stick to Illumination-tier garbage.
Pathetic damage control shill, sorry your bosses sent you on an impossible mission of justifying this bad movie that can't be justified
>I'm sorry Miles... the anal is a Canon event...
>Just try to relax. I'll make it quick.
>Peni before: cute and wholesome
>Peni now: depressed and badass
I want them to frick each other while I watch.
I can fix her