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yeah, unrealistic. What age did you lose your virginity Cinemaphile? Me, 18
25 with a busted up slag while on vacation in Paris, have some regrets about that..but live and learn. I was very insecure and took what I could
Sex seems so disgusting to me in every facet. We really are just rutting animals.
>Sex seems so disgusting to me
if you look at it rationally, sure. It's all friction and swapping of bodily fluids
however most people experience sex from a hormonal, carnal desires perspective, not a logical one
Unironically, being disgusted by it could mean you have low testosterone levels (not saying this as a personal attack, just proposing a possiblity of why you find it gross, while most people are able to overcome that hurdle)
Or you could just be an outlier, not due to hormones - are you a germophobe / OCD?
If most people found sex disgusting, then most of us alive today would simply not have come into existence
I definitely am low T. I’m also embittered by the cold pragmatism of others, both sexes. There is no room for love or romance it seems. But that’s not how I was raised. My parents and grandparents are still married, still in love. I must cling to that ideal regardless of the baseness surrounding me.
>cold pragmatism of others, both sexes. There is no room for love or romance it seems
In a way, people who care about love and feelings (especially in the modern world), are already self-selecting themselves to be less likely to get into relationships and stay single in the first place, just like people who are willing to eat pussy are less likely to get it. Physically is a very important part of forming a connection with someone, most people wouldn't date someone they consider ugly. But maybe I'm just saying that as a bitter single person
Part of it is just the nature of human desire - we want what we can't get, so someone who seems indifferent can be subjectively perceived as being more attractive (seems to be especially true from women)
Look at stats for people who use escorts, it's mostly married men
>I definitely am low T
have you spoken to your doctor about testosterone replacement therapy?
I’m just a sensitive and emotional guy. I’m hairy and going bald but also physically fit so I’m not sure how beneficial added testosterone could be.
Logically and rationally nothing human should disgust you. Even though I find it in myself I see disgust and intolerance as things beneath myself. Now if you excuse me I have a fedora to wear while whistling and swinging a pocket watch. I'm fat.
> It's all friction
only if you have a mutilated dick
>only if you have a mutilated dick
I don't (I'm not israeli or North American)
you foreskin sliding back and forth against your shaft and glans to feel good, still constitutes friction
you'll be happiest in life when you learn to accept and embrace your animal nature in a healthy way. We are our bodies and there's no escaping it. There's no becoming some perfectly logical robot. You are an animal and animals are happiest when they're having sex as they should be. When animals aren't having sex in a zoo then we know there's something wrong with their environment or how they were raised.
I’m disgusted by the context of sex which is used as a drug-like coping mechanism. I find women attractive and their nude bodies appealing of course. I just have no desire to relentlessly neg every vegana around me in the rabid pursuit of sex. Or conversely, capitulate to the broken and damaged women around me who’d be an easy lay (not the attractive kind either).
If you think you have to neg women to get sex, you haven't yet understood the primal, positive bond that is achievable in a happy romantic sexual relationship. I've never negged my gf and we bang every night. Just had sex twice this morning in bed. Nutted in her as the sun rose and then we went back to sleep for a bit then I nutted in her again.
After a certain age, sex is overrated . 2-3 times a month is fine if you are in a steady relationship
maybe if you jerk off, but I'm assuming the both of us are young and not old men
It's been months since I last jerk offd, every nut is for her
I'm middle aged man. I rarely jerk off
>I just have no desire to relentlessly neg every vegana around me in the rabid pursuit of sex
>capitulate to the broken and damaged women around me
It doesn't have to be that way either, just avoid those people
Moreover, going around "negging every vegana" will make you less likely to get laid, that's a bad self-fulfilling mentality
There are plenty of fish in the sea (although admittedly, not as many options for men)
>also physically fit so I’m not sure how beneficial added testosterone could be
TRT is not meant to get you big...it's meant to return your T levels to normal levels comparable to other men
If you're already going bald anyway, that's one less side effect to fear since you've already dealt with it
I do avoid them but they seem to keep finding me lol. It really sucks too when I meet a girl who would date me but is taken already. That ties into what I was saying earlier, unfaithfulness is just part of sex’s animalistic pragmatic nature.
25 with my 24 year old virgin wife
Nice.My then gf was virgin too
>gf
>25
Yikes
21. Took me a while to figure out I was my own worst enemy when it came to getting laid. My other mistake was dating a girl who lived right above my dorm, we fricked like everyday for months and it was weird going back to nothing when we broke up
3 weeks before my 18th birthday in my freshman year. Nothing special. I'm average at best though I'm 6'2 and 197 pounds as a wrestler. I had sex with a qt Vietnamese girl who was barely 5 feet and haven't had an experience as good as her.
how did he live to that age?
>people buy a bag of snacks and eat it with their unwashed hands
grosses me out.
>remember people also stick each other's genitals in their mouths
keeps me sane.
Imagine being 40 and a virgin
I'm 27 years old and I've never kissed a girl.
Don't worry about it too much. Women are more trouble than they're worth.
everyone who says this comes off as a condescending prick.
Frick you too.
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True, but at times like this I like to remember my old friend who got divorced and is on the hook for a kid. I regard myself as more fortunate than him. I really really really really extra super never ever want kids, but that's just me.
But yes, despite its truth content, the advice is not credible when it is addressed from a sex-haver in a position of knowledge to one who does not have sex.
I slept with one girl on several occasions when I was in my late twenties. I may be regarded as a fakecel on this site, but by the standard of most people in the world today I'm about as far from being a chad as it's possible to get. Whether you accept or reject my advice is up to you. I know I'd have been far happier throughout my teens and twenties if I hadn't worried about girls, but it's your life; you have to do what you think is best.
>i got lucky and it wasn't what i expected so basically just disregard all women because of my anecdotal evidence (even if for actual real wizards it isn't a choice and women just genuinely hate them)
wow man. great advice. i'm sure you'll be back to gloat about how happy you are when you actually get in a decent relationship.
find someone to talk to, to vent and deal with your bitterness. There are free counselling resources, request a male counsellor who is not soi
As a man, you need to be a carefree lighthearted entertainer with some degree of emotional mastery but also a bit of vulnerability. That's just how it is. You're not going to attract anyone by sitting around idly and punishing yourself for it
Accept it or drop out. The material universe is callous and uncaring to your suffering. Nobody is going to advocate for you, if you don't help yourself first.
As men we're lucky in a way, in that grooming and attitude is far more important than objective looks. And our value increases over age rather than decay
>As men we're lucky in a way, in that grooming and attitude is far more important than objective looks. And our value increases over age rather than decay
spoken like a true moron who's either unaware of his own good fortune or an old uggo coping. also therapy is a scam, been there done that. it is literally a woman thing. at least i'm self aware that i'm an ugly moron women don't want, all i can do is vent about it. no other option.
nothing can make me happy but a painless death.
Really love that quote. Nothing turned me off of bitterness as much as hanging out with other bitter people. Guy at work sperged out at this other guy because he had been bullied in his youth and the situation brought this trauma back, he’s in his 50s. I just thought to myself “I don’t want to be like him.”
Kek. But not surprising to hear a Buddhist say something moronic, a religion literally built around rationalizing your own oppression and aiming never to make things better in any way; things can never improve or get better, so just cope with it. You will own nothing, and you will be happy.
Big difference between impotent hatred and righteous anger. If you’re so upset at the status quo then do something about it. You won’t.
I don't know where you work, but it sounds like a low tier job, which I actually think everyone should work for a while at least once. The lifers you meet at factories and warehouses are another breed. Ultimate motivation to not be in the same spot a year later.
It is, I’ve had many jobs like it. Been here for four years myself unfortunately. But the lifers are a great example of what not to do and how not to be.
My favourites were a 36 year old short guy who must have barely weighed 120 pounds and walked around just talking about weed and unironically thinking the Trailer Park Boys were cool and idolized them. Then there was the guy who would brag his son sold the best weed in high school because he gave it to him. Then there was the East African ex-cop who liked to talk about how evolution wasn't real.
Good times. I think it did that kind of work for three years before fricking off to school.
Whatever. If you want to disregard what I have to say because you think I'm either too experienced or not experienced enough then that's your right. I just hope you're happy with the choices you make.
Buddy of mine at work is dealing with this bawd who is complaining to HR that he’s been acting inappropriate to her when he hasn’t. All because he fell for her wiles. Women are EVIL and unless you can control them them then tread lightly,
yass queen you get it girl men aren't worth the trouble you just be a boss babe and go your own way
SLAAAY!
You have to understand, for someone who doesn't get laid:
Hearing this perspective is like somebody who is homeless, cold, and starving having a billionaire walk up to them and telling them
>"Money can't buy you happiness. It's true, I just finished my 3 month vacation sailing around the world in my mega yacht and I'm still unhappy, look at me!"
>*walks off*"
I agree with you, but it's a lesson that most people won't accept until they experience it themselves
They won't be willing to hear it out, regardless of whether the advice is coming from a millionaire playboy or a sex-starved neckbeard
it helps people understand better if you say money can help remove sources of unhappiness, but it's not a source of happiness in and of itself. That's why happiness from money caps at around $100k depending on your local cost of living. At about that amount, you have enough money that money is no longer a source of stress in your life or something that meaningfully impedes your freedom. But that's it. Having a $100k salary doesn't mean your wife or kids love you or that you have close friends and you can't buy that, not directly at least.
See
. I accept that I have the advantage of having actually had sex (albeit on a handful of occasions in my late twenties), but the advice is still good. I know it's (relatively) easy for me to say, but I sincerely believe I'd have been happier if I'd followed it when I was younger.
And for what it's worth, I've been a lot happier since I stopped caring about women after realizing that having sex isn't the life-changing experience that I once believed it would be.
Sex as a man isn't a life changing experience by itself, it's the mindset you have to into as a man to actively convince another woman to sleep with you of her own free will. That happens before the sex, the sex merely confirms it's happened. Late stage virgins know the lack of sex means there's something wrong with them. It's not the virginity itself that's the issue, but the issue it symbolizes. You have to become a man. It's not something that just happens the way a woman becomes a woman. That's why manchild is a thing but not womanchild. There's a psychological maturation that has to happen with boys and a lot of boys aren't going through it nowadays. This is also why getting a hooker doesn't fix the real problem. Sure you'll technically no longer be a virgin, but you'll still be a psychological virgin as a man. You'll still have no clue what to do with regular women.
Pretty accurate take. That's why I never listened to those who advised me to see a prostitute or women who said that all I cared about was sex.
>You'll still have no clue what to do with regular women.
Lack of confidence is the real killler here. I know what I have to do, more or less, but I don't have the courage to do that. It's like thinking about jumping in front of the bus on the street, or taking your clothes off in the public. Can I do that? Of course. Will I do that? Hell no.
I'm so far behind my peers it's scary. Even I attempt to socialize, like normal people do, I usually sit there in silence and drink beer because I have nothing interesting to say. Almost every conversation dries up in less than 5 minutes.
Confidence is a very weird and ethereal thing. I’ve met confident and well liked people only to discover their insecurity and shame. I’m a confident person and I’m well liked, but not enough to really have social magnetism. Being your self is great advice but just because I hold my head high, assert myself and approach situations with calm determination doesn’t mean I’m suddenly a “Chad.” I suppose it’s confidence mixed with manipulation that’ll get you popularity.
I was on a multi year dry spell until last night. Don't even know why I punished myself for so long honestly. Just go out and get some.
story time? did you meet through mutual friends? at a hobby? bar/club? did you go out alone or have a friend wingman?
Just was out with some old friends for St Patties day and some girl I used to know was there who was flirting with me and wanted to give me a ride home so I told her to come in when we got to my place.
it is just this easy for normalc**ts huh. just have friends go places and women will be into you and make it obvious they want to frick you. you people genuinely live in a different reality huh. its like hearing about a man walking on mars. completely and utterly unrelatable and alien to me.
I mean I guess so. It's not all easy though. The one I really want I don't have though.
i'm 30 and i will never have sex.
34 and I just can't be arsed.
just hire a prostitute
i have some set of basic morals. its also not that simple and very illegal here. not everyone lives in a country where you can just hire an escort like ordering a burger.
>very illegal
very? like you're gonna get executed?
did you ever consider saving up $150 and going to an escort?
or Im assuming like a lot of people you want to "earn it the natural way" for your first time?
anyway it's true that sex without feelings is an empty void. what a lot of celibate people are looking for is intimacy and affection, not just a quick nut. But again, those type of people are already selecting themselves to be less likely to get it
>its also not that simple and very illegal here
kek, since when did that stop anyone? just be careful and use common sense, educate yourself on the usual scams and dont go into shady areas
hey there's hope for you yet
many of us who were forever-alone in the early days of this site were able to grow up and pivot into failed-normie tier
>hey there's hope for you yet
nah there's not. as a wizard i wholly accept i will absolutely die a virgin. at a certain point acceptance of your lot in life is healthier.
I’m right here
I could frick but I only want 10/10 b***hes that I’m too ugly to get
Here
The film's messages:
1) People refuse to tolerate genuine difference in others. This is true of people in general (including the strange/different, who also feel ill at ease with those truly different from themselves), but it's especially true of "normal" people. They feel compelled to coerce conformity on those who are different.
2) Although the film tried to depict the lead's virginity loss (and the path leading towards it) as comedic personal growth, it actually showed the opposite in spite of itself. Even accounting for his nervous "virgin walk" gait and the dull expression on his face, the character was overall a better and happier person at the beginning of the film than at its end. In order to get sex that wasn't worth having in the first place (because the woman involved was a middle-aged single mother), the character was made to undergo various humiliations and go through various superficial rites to deny his true self. Although it can be countered that the character ultimately got sex by "being genuine and being his true self", he is still overall worse off for having undergone the humiliations and parting with his collection that he genuinely enjoyed. He was made to compromise himself (and he was weak enough to go along with the ideas even though no one was literally forcing him to do the various rites. As a man (well, a quasi-man, anyway), he had the power to say "No, I'm not going to be doing that", and should have, but he was weak and went along with what he was told to do). Even though I don't watch or read any of it anymore (and even though it isn't terribly valuable), I have never sold any of my old anime stuff, and I never will. I keep it on general principles. I know who I am as a person, and I know what I like, or at least what I used to like, and I refuse to deny this about myself. The character partially denied and compromised himself, and this isn't worth doing in order to get sex. It's not "growth".
And no, I will not Have Sex.
>hes virgin because hes a NERD!!! AHAHHAHAHA
so funny
2 more years and I'm a 40 year old virgin
Your numerical powers are apparent.
I'm one year out if we're taking veganal intercourse as the gold standard. I had gay sex a handful of times at twenty and liked it, even though I couldn't ejaculate. Kissed a girl on a bus once in middle school by telling a joke, she seemed to like it so I leaned in when it felt right. I'll see myself out.
this movie is terrible. carrel's character was just happy with his hobby and life and was peer pressured to sell all his belongings just to bang an old single mom
if anything it was realistic because this is the fate of all wizards who want to have sex. its all washed up roastie single mothers. that's your dating pool.
it's science fiction
shut the frick up every fricking day with these threads
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/image/7U7s9B6-pp-4fLlGov8LqA/
>being an archive-nofungay
ngmi
Haven't had sex in almost 3 years and I'm not sure that's going to change any time soon.
gee whizz 3 whole heckin years you must have it soooooo rough. poor widdle failed normie.
Yes
When my first long term gf dumped me I was all fricked up for about 3 years
You can jump back in
People were brainwashed by being taught during the 20th century that sex is a "NEED" (like oxygen food, and water), rather than a desire.
Before that time, some of the most brilliant and influential people were unashamed virgins.
there is literally no way to prove historical virgins were actually virgins until death.