If Freddy is beneath Nancy, and there's a hole in the bottom of the tub as
There's a hole in the bottom of the tub probably
says, Nancy would sink. Also, is Freddy supposed to be swimming under her without touching her legs or disturbing the water or is it just Freddy's disembodied arm reaching for her?
The water is the stand-in for the barrier between the waking world we see and the dream she is starting. The arm does not exist below the bubbles, it is a 4th wall break.
>Chooses to just stab people with his glove most of the time.
I'd say that less than half the kills in the franchise are just him stabbing people with his glove, but yea they could have been more creative with some of the deaths.
That’s not entity true. He had some pretty creative kills. Turning that b***h into a bug for example. A lot had to do with budget. With CGI now, it’s pretty much limitless what he could do
>A lot had to do with budget. With CGI now, it’s pretty much limitless what he could do
Practical effects and a limited budget usually translates to a more soulful product. Not saying they can't do something creative with CGI, but you have to actually have creative people working on it in the first place.
>turning that b***h into a bug
god, just the mention of it and I know exactly what you mean, and I have not seen that movie on 20+ years, that was a good scene.
Fricking scene always made me hard. The idea that in reality she probably just vanished because she was turned into a tiny roach and crushed never to be found by anyone was so hot.
craven wrote him as a child molester, the studio made him take any specific reference to it out of the script but it's still hinted at
Didn’t Nancy’s mom specifically call him a filthy child molester in the first one? Maybe it was filthy child murderer. I think that makes it pretty clear though, never seen the reboot but that’s what I’ve always thought.
It was never intended to be a franchise. Wes never wanted that, it was Robert Shaye that made him put in the sequel bait ending. It's definitely better than the Friday the 13th movies and most Halloween movies.
I recently watched this entire series of films and gotta say, it's largely shit. While the dream sequences/kills, special fx and scoring are their strong suit (mostly), the writing amd overall lore was obviously made up as the series went along. Freddy is cartoonish and his 'rules' are inconsistant. By and large, there is MUCH better horror from the same era. Wes craven is overrated af.
craven wrote him as a child molester, the studio made him take any specific reference to it out of the script but it's still hinted at
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Didn’t Nancy’s mom specifically call him a filthy child molester in the first one? Maybe it was filthy child murderer. I think that makes it pretty clear though, never seen the reboot but that’s what I’ve always thought.
>Maybe it was filthy child murderer.
It was
Serial killers tend to do it for sexual reasons. It goes without saying that if the guy is capturing children, taking them to a steel mill and murdering them he's probably also a pedo.
Did they really have another guy in the tub with her just to raise the glove? That seems kinda weird, couldn't they just use some inflatable prop or something?
>couldn't they just use some inflatable prop or something?
That would've looked like shit. Besides you telling me you wouldn't want to spend 10-12 hours in between Heather Langenkamp legs?
I recently watched this entire series of films and gotta say, it's largely shit. While the dream sequences/kills, special fx and scoring are their strong suit (mostly), the writing amd overall lore was obviously made up as the series went along. Freddy is cartoonish and his 'rules' are inconsistant. By and large, there is MUCH better horror from the same era. Wes craven is overrated af.
Dream Warriors through Dream Child form a trilogy within the greater series which is pretty unique among horror franchises. Most of Freddy’s mythology comes from those movies.
The 1st and 3rd (Dream warriors) films are the strong ones. They both feel a part of the same universe and 3 has a finality to which could easily finish the series off. 4 an 5 are fun, together have a consistency, but add nothing more to the story other than convolution. 2 is just a complete misfire. The most annoying thing for me was how "dripfed" Freddys story/mythos is throughout the series. You don't truely understand the whole picture until you get to Freddy's Dead, which is forgettable on it's own. Overall, it's just a messy series.
I didn't watch the classic late 70's-80s horror flicks until I was in my 20s in the 2010's.
And I gotta say, they suck.
The Nightmare on Elm Street movies suck.
The Halloween movies suck.
The Friday the 13th movies suck.
However, Freddy Vs. Jason was fun, but then again I saw it when I was a teenager.
There's two series that hold up are
Childs Play and Evil Dead.
I saw all the Chucky movies as a teenager. But I didn't see Evil Dead until like 2015.
Evil Dead (1981) is fricking frightening, disgusting and great. Evil Dead 2 is good, but I still strongly prefer Evil Dead 1. Evil Dead 2 basically rebooted Evil Dead and redid Evil Dead 1 in the first 40 minutes, but changed Ash into a macho genius. And Evil Dead 2 was more silly. Army of Darkness is good too, but its not even a horro movie, its a comedy with monsters. I guess I just prefer my Ash as an everyman who survived a horrible night to Ash as a Charismo genius whose stuck up to people "dumber" than him. But I still like ED2 and AoD.
Haven't watched that reboot from 2013, nor the Ash vs The Evil Dead series.
I mostly agree, however F13th is definitely better than Nightmare by miles simply because it's narratives and concept are more focused/clear-cut. I'm not that familiar with Halloween. I need to watch those fully before i can judge. And yes the Evil Dead Trilogy absolutely nails it. All three films are completely different treatments of a single idea that work together and in isolation. Childs play, while goofy, is again consistent and you get sense that the writers know what they want to do.
Craven wanted Freddy to transform into a lot of shit. He stated that’s why he gave Freddy a striped sweater similar to Plastic Man. So whenever you saw something stripped like his sweater, you knew it was Freddy. Why Hall Monitor was wearing his sweater and why the car at the end was stripped like Freddy sweater.
In Craven’s original script for Dream Warrior’s Freddy turns into some crazy shit. Like a tractor. Obviously had to be cut because budget would’ve been insane pre CGI
I love Dream Warriors, but it would've been cool to see Wes' version. I know John Saxon actually wrote a treatment for a prequel that revealed Freddy was actually innocent
Would have been sick. They could have even used that concept to bring in Michael Myers, Chucky, Leatherface and others all into the fold. But its way past the point of relevance now
I don't think he turns into a tractor in the script. You may be thinking of the Simpsons episode where Willy is Freddyish and turns into a tractor or some other kind of farm equipment.
A lot of things in that series don't make sense. Freddy was a silly idea from the door. The only reason it's a good movie is because Wes Craven is a legend and Heather is pure kino
>Silly
A near omnipotent serial killer who can murder you with your biggest fears is a kino idea. Budget just restricts it significantly.
He could turn into your wiener and then ejaculate all the blood out of you.
No, Slashers being near omnipotent doesn’t work because there are no rules at all to what happens, thus cheapening a lot of the deaths. It no longer becomes a “game” of survival and instead turns a boring massacre as the person can do whatever they want. This becomes an increasing problem in the sequels because each time they “kill” Freddy and he gets revived anyways, they need to find another absurd way to beat him. Add to the fact that a lot of people die despite being clearly awake and an endless amount of “demon powers” and you basically have a Dream Neo.
Slashers already don't work. Horror as a genre is universal trash where as long as there's a bunch of graphic violence, the plot can be idiots non stop.
Where's my shot for shot remake of the 1st half hour of the original Texas chainsaw massacre but where are the hippie van teens all team up and torture Leatherface's family to death as he watches, crying and powerless to stop them?
You don't want to see a bunch of innocent heroes murdering a family of murderous psychopaths who cry and beg for mercy that they don't get because they're the designated villains?
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It’s time to go back to plebbit. We’ve all seen get out and green room and every other Reddit power fantasy “horror.”
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Anonymous
>We’ve all seen get out
Not at all what I'm talking about, Get Out doesn't involve a group of Klansmann being tortured to death by a jovial black family that see hooking a racist up to a car battery so he's electrocuted to death as being as wholesome as Candy Land >and green room
Literally what
I would guess a lever-operated system on the left side of the tub that ran along the bottom. When pulled out of frame it would lift a puppet version of Freddie's arm above the water.
Or if you dgaf just put the actor in an extra long tub with a snorkel while the actress is wearing a bikini bottom. It doesn't seem too hard.
You're wrong, moron. >For the bathtub scene in 'Nightmare on Elm Street', Heather Langenkamp was sitting on two planks of wood over a tank and Mechanical Special Effects designer Jim Doyle then sat in front of her wearing the glove.
>Langenkamp: Jim Doyle was in a scuba suit underneath me. I was sitting on a two-by-four across a bathtub that had the bottom cut out, and beneath me was a tank made out of plywood, filled with water. It was a challenge to keep it at a temperature that wouldn't completely be unreasonable; you would get slightly cold just sitting there. What I remember mainly are the sounds. Wes told Jim, "I'm going to bang on the bathtub when I want you to stick the claw out." So Jim is blindly plunging that thing between my legs. One time it's too far to the right, next time it's too far to the left, then it's way too fast — and Wes just patiently waited until he got the take that he wanted.
I didn't watch the classic late 70's-80s horror flicks until I was in my 20s in the 2010's.
And I gotta say, they suck.
The Nightmare on Elm Street movies suck.
The Halloween movies suck.
The Friday the 13th movies suck.
However, Freddy Vs. Jason was fun, but then again I saw it when I was a teenager.
There's two series that hold up are
Childs Play and Evil Dead.
I saw all the Chucky movies as a teenager. But I didn't see Evil Dead until like 2015.
Evil Dead (1981) is fricking frightening, disgusting and great. Evil Dead 2 is good, but I still strongly prefer Evil Dead 1. Evil Dead 2 basically rebooted Evil Dead and redid Evil Dead 1 in the first 40 minutes, but changed Ash into a macho genius. And Evil Dead 2 was more silly. Army of Darkness is good too, but its not even a horro movie, its a comedy with monsters. I guess I just prefer my Ash as an everyman who survived a horrible night to Ash as a Charismo genius whose stuck up to people "dumber" than him. But I still like ED2 and AoD.
Haven't watched that reboot from 2013, nor the Ash vs The Evil Dead series.
Why?
If Freddy is beneath Nancy, and there's a hole in the bottom of the tub as
says, Nancy would sink. Also, is Freddy supposed to be swimming under her without touching her legs or disturbing the water or is it just Freddy's disembodied arm reaching for her?
The water is the stand-in for the barrier between the waking world we see and the dream she is starting. The arm does not exist below the bubbles, it is a 4th wall break.
It’s not a 4th wall break, it’s an in-universe appropriate paradox. It’s a dream goddamnit.
>it is a 4th wall break.
no it's not
There's a hole in the bottom of the tub probably
He’s a dream monster and you’re surprised by this?
I'm surprised his face wasn't in Nancy's hairy pussy.
>Freddy can do basically anything in a dream reality.
>Chooses to just stab people with his glove most of the time.
Is he just not that creative?
>Chooses to just stab people with his glove most of the time.
I'd say that less than half the kills in the franchise are just him stabbing people with his glove, but yea they could have been more creative with some of the deaths.
That’s not entity true. He had some pretty creative kills. Turning that b***h into a bug for example. A lot had to do with budget. With CGI now, it’s pretty much limitless what he could do
>A lot had to do with budget. With CGI now, it’s pretty much limitless what he could do
Practical effects and a limited budget usually translates to a more soulful product. Not saying they can't do something creative with CGI, but you have to actually have creative people working on it in the first place.
When anything is possible, nothing is.
>turning that b***h into a bug
god, just the mention of it and I know exactly what you mean, and I have not seen that movie on 20+ years, that was a good scene.
Fricking scene always made me hard. The idea that in reality she probably just vanished because she was turned into a tiny roach and crushed never to be found by anyone was so hot.
SPLISH SPLASH I'M TAKIN' A BATH b***h
first saw this movie on vhs at a sleepover when i was 11 and this shot awakened something in me
the next week i got sent to the principal's office for lying down on the carpet so i could look up between this one girl's legs
Was it worth it?
Do you think freddy looked at her vegana and butthole
wasn't freddy a pedo? nancy's probably too old for him
>wasn't freddy a pedo
This wasn't only stated in that shitty reboot.
In the original movie he just murdered them.
craven wrote him as a child molester, the studio made him take any specific reference to it out of the script but it's still hinted at
Didn’t Nancy’s mom specifically call him a filthy child molester in the first one? Maybe it was filthy child murderer. I think that makes it pretty clear though, never seen the reboot but that’s what I’ve always thought.
>Maybe it was filthy child murderer.
It was
It was never intended to be a franchise. Wes never wanted that, it was Robert Shaye that made him put in the sequel bait ending. It's definitely better than the Friday the 13th movies and most Halloween movies.
Meant to reply to
Serial killers tend to do it for sexual reasons. It goes without saying that if the guy is capturing children, taking them to a steel mill and murdering them he's probably also a pedo.
You eatin buscetty Os?
It's just a dream. Relax.
giwtwm
Did they really have another guy in the tub with her just to raise the glove? That seems kinda weird, couldn't they just use some inflatable prop or something?
>couldn't they just use some inflatable prop or something?
That would've looked like shit. Besides you telling me you wouldn't want to spend 10-12 hours in between Heather Langenkamp legs?
pusy
wet wet pusy
wet wet wet pusy in bathtub with soapy wet pubes
Why would you do this to me, anon? Dark pusy fur clinging to soft clean skin, I want it.
I recently watched this entire series of films and gotta say, it's largely shit. While the dream sequences/kills, special fx and scoring are their strong suit (mostly), the writing amd overall lore was obviously made up as the series went along. Freddy is cartoonish and his 'rules' are inconsistant. By and large, there is MUCH better horror from the same era. Wes craven is overrated af.
>Wes craven is overrated af.
>af
Yeah, nobody’s surprised by your shit opinion.
Do i need to spell both words out for ya lil b***h boi?
Dream Warriors through Dream Child form a trilogy within the greater series which is pretty unique among horror franchises. Most of Freddy’s mythology comes from those movies.
The 1st and 3rd (Dream warriors) films are the strong ones. They both feel a part of the same universe and 3 has a finality to which could easily finish the series off. 4 an 5 are fun, together have a consistency, but add nothing more to the story other than convolution. 2 is just a complete misfire. The most annoying thing for me was how "dripfed" Freddys story/mythos is throughout the series. You don't truely understand the whole picture until you get to Freddy's Dead, which is forgettable on it's own. Overall, it's just a messy series.
I mostly agree, however F13th is definitely better than Nightmare by miles simply because it's narratives and concept are more focused/clear-cut. I'm not that familiar with Halloween. I need to watch those fully before i can judge. And yes the Evil Dead Trilogy absolutely nails it. All three films are completely different treatments of a single idea that work together and in isolation. Childs play, while goofy, is again consistent and you get sense that the writers know what they want to do.
Freddy’s Dead sucks. They completely dropped the somewhat interesting mythology that had been built in the previous three movies and went full comedy.
>I recently watched this entire series of films and gotta say, it's largely shit
So it's just like all other horror movies.
Reminds me of bathing my nine year old sister. Splash time with a vibrating rubber turtle.
KYS
Craven wanted Freddy to transform into a lot of shit. He stated that’s why he gave Freddy a striped sweater similar to Plastic Man. So whenever you saw something stripped like his sweater, you knew it was Freddy. Why Hall Monitor was wearing his sweater and why the car at the end was stripped like Freddy sweater.
In Craven’s original script for Dream Warrior’s Freddy turns into some crazy shit. Like a tractor. Obviously had to be cut because budget would’ve been insane pre CGI
I love Dream Warriors, but it would've been cool to see Wes' version. I know John Saxon actually wrote a treatment for a prequel that revealed Freddy was actually innocent
Always thought there should have a been a prequel that explained how he got his powers that doesn't include the moronic "Dream People".
Supposedly Pinhead was going to be at the end of FvJ when both go to Hell. Rumor was, Cenobites gave both Jason and Freddy their powers
That's kind of stupid. I prefer Jason just being so moronic it made him biologically immortal.
>I prefer Jason just being so moronic it made him biologically immortal.
That's much, much stupider.
Why? He's already severely deformed?
>Misses the entire point of the character
He was just a kid, it was the cruelty and later insanity of his mom that transformed him
No, STUPIDER is turning Jason into Gamera meets Ghost Rider: a violent undead defender of all children.
Would have been sick. They could have even used that concept to bring in Michael Myers, Chucky, Leatherface and others all into the fold. But its way past the point of relevance now
I don't think he turns into a tractor in the script. You may be thinking of the Simpsons episode where Willy is Freddyish and turns into a tractor or some other kind of farm equipment.
is it gay to like the second film?
Crave used this exact shtick previously in Deadly Blessing only with a snake.
Anyone ever watch Elm street TV show? It was basically a precursor to Tales from The Crypt
Tales From The Darkside came 6 years before Crypt and 5 years before Freddy's Nightmares.
I like the remake better
Based Trisitan Summers enjoyer, she's currently pregnant
It was a dream, it doesn't have to make sense.
A lot of things in that series don't make sense. Freddy was a silly idea from the door. The only reason it's a good movie is because Wes Craven is a legend and Heather is pure kino
>Silly
A near omnipotent serial killer who can murder you with your biggest fears is a kino idea. Budget just restricts it significantly.
He could turn into your wiener and then ejaculate all the blood out of you.
No, Slashers being near omnipotent doesn’t work because there are no rules at all to what happens, thus cheapening a lot of the deaths. It no longer becomes a “game” of survival and instead turns a boring massacre as the person can do whatever they want. This becomes an increasing problem in the sequels because each time they “kill” Freddy and he gets revived anyways, they need to find another absurd way to beat him. Add to the fact that a lot of people die despite being clearly awake and an endless amount of “demon powers” and you basically have a Dream Neo.
Slashers already don't work. Horror as a genre is universal trash where as long as there's a bunch of graphic violence, the plot can be idiots non stop.
Where's my shot for shot remake of the 1st half hour of the original Texas chainsaw massacre but where are the hippie van teens all team up and torture Leatherface's family to death as he watches, crying and powerless to stop them?
You’re boring. Your opinions are boring. Your ideas are boring. Boring.
You don't want to see a bunch of innocent heroes murdering a family of murderous psychopaths who cry and beg for mercy that they don't get because they're the designated villains?
It’s time to go back to plebbit. We’ve all seen get out and green room and every other Reddit power fantasy “horror.”
>We’ve all seen get out
Not at all what I'm talking about, Get Out doesn't involve a group of Klansmann being tortured to death by a jovial black family that see hooking a racist up to a car battery so he's electrocuted to death as being as wholesome as Candy Land
>and green room
Literally what
>This doesn't make any sense
Babys first horror flick?
Any guesses on how did they made this shot
I would guess a lever-operated system on the left side of the tub that ran along the bottom. When pulled out of frame it would lift a puppet version of Freddie's arm above the water.
Or if you dgaf just put the actor in an extra long tub with a snorkel while the actress is wearing a bikini bottom. It doesn't seem too hard.
No. Jesus. There’s just a dude sitting behind camera with an arm longer than the six inches you’re apparently used to.
You're wrong, moron.
>For the bathtub scene in 'Nightmare on Elm Street', Heather Langenkamp was sitting on two planks of wood over a tank and Mechanical Special Effects designer Jim Doyle then sat in front of her wearing the glove.
>Langenkamp: Jim Doyle was in a scuba suit underneath me. I was sitting on a two-by-four across a bathtub that had the bottom cut out, and beneath me was a tank made out of plywood, filled with water. It was a challenge to keep it at a temperature that wouldn't completely be unreasonable; you would get slightly cold just sitting there. What I remember mainly are the sounds. Wes told Jim, "I'm going to bang on the bathtub when I want you to stick the claw out." So Jim is blindly plunging that thing between my legs. One time it's too far to the right, next time it's too far to the left, then it's way too fast — and Wes just patiently waited until he got the take that he wanted.
In other words, there was a dude sitting behind the camera with an arm longer than six inches.
The arm comes from beneath the water you fricking idiot.
Yeah, pretty hard to get that shot with the arm above the water, bucko.
This is how I think they achieved this shot
There's a hole in the tub
The tub is sitting on top of a tank full of water. That water then fills up into the tub
There's a guy in the tank with a scuba gear on who reaches through the hole
post the version with saddam hussein
I didn't watch the classic late 70's-80s horror flicks until I was in my 20s in the 2010's.
And I gotta say, they suck.
The Nightmare on Elm Street movies suck.
The Halloween movies suck.
The Friday the 13th movies suck.
However, Freddy Vs. Jason was fun, but then again I saw it when I was a teenager.
There's two series that hold up are
Childs Play and Evil Dead.
I saw all the Chucky movies as a teenager. But I didn't see Evil Dead until like 2015.
Evil Dead (1981) is fricking frightening, disgusting and great. Evil Dead 2 is good, but I still strongly prefer Evil Dead 1. Evil Dead 2 basically rebooted Evil Dead and redid Evil Dead 1 in the first 40 minutes, but changed Ash into a macho genius. And Evil Dead 2 was more silly. Army of Darkness is good too, but its not even a horro movie, its a comedy with monsters. I guess I just prefer my Ash as an everyman who survived a horrible night to Ash as a Charismo genius whose stuck up to people "dumber" than him. But I still like ED2 and AoD.
Haven't watched that reboot from 2013, nor the Ash vs The Evil Dead series.
he has become her bathwater
Doesn't that happen in Jack Frost where he rapes Shannon Elizabeth with his carrot?
>Rapes
He just bashes her head against the wall?
Where do you think his carrot nose is?
Removed because it wouldn't work with the scene, too close to her face.
So why does she look satisfied at the end of the clip?
What would your dream warrior power be?
To tell the difference between Craig wasson and bill Maher.
Apathy to anything Freddy does.
Including murdering you?
>the black guy's power is destroying public property
making blacks and shoulder pads disappear and getting rid of bacne
What's your problem with shoulder pads? Do people still wear shoulder pads?
it was the first sign of what was eventually to become trannies
>I play DnD!
>I'm a Wizard!
>runs into close combat
Shooting cum from my penis non stop. I would drown Freddy to death in my cum.
haha imagine if he put one of his fingies into her vagin gin and she started moaning and getting hot and very sexy hahaha that would be so crazy lol
The guy who was underwater with the glove would stick his face right in her pusy and blow bubbles. True story.
It actually happened and this film was capturing true events, how canit not make sense if it it'sust a true reflction of your reality>?
what?
imagine if he fingered her pussy and butthole with those, haha, wouldn't that be scary?
It would be extremely painful.
No, to a brainlet it doesn't.