This energon universe thing is peak onions, It's insane how positively received these books are.
This energon universe thing is peak onions, It's insane how positively received these books are.
This energon universe thing is peak onions, It's insane how positively received these books are.
It’s largely shills. You haven’t noticed when things get launched shills are sent here to push them and then a few issues in it naturally dies off and then the last few shills or people who fell for them like to remark “remember when Cinemaphile loved (insert thing)”?
It’s going on pretty transparently with Hickman’s USM now too, for instance.
Frick you, I'm having fun with the books.
>It’s largely shills.
I don't know, there's a sizeable number of Transformers fans here, and the relaunch has been pretty popular with them, and the first issue of Cobra Commander actually used Cobra-La and won people over.
>It’s going on pretty transparently with Hickman’s USM now too, for instance.
Hickman is one of the few comics writers left who gets treated like a star and always attracts a lot of attention to whatever new book he's working on, and nobody ever learns their lesson that most things he writes have the same problems and end up sucking, they always get excited for the next Hickman book. And this time he's working on an AU Spider-Man book where Peter and MJ are married with a kid, stuff Marvel have been starving Spider-Man fandom of for decades, and it's happening at a time when the main Amazing Spider-Man run is absolutely despised by the fans, so they're excited about an alternative that's giving them things they want to see.
The previous Transformers run was mainly known for introducing the concept of transsexual transformers (troonyformers, if you will). The new one sells because it is not that, at least not yet.
Hickman's USM sells because it has Peter Parker in it and isn't utter shit, unlike the main continuity version.
I want you to consider this possibility seriously: comics sell better if they simply give the audience what the audience wants, or at least make an honest attempt to.
USM is an alt U with an alternate origin, it’s not at all what anyone “wants” it’s sold well to stores because it’s a new spider-man number one. That’s it.
>The previous Transformers run was mainly known for introducing the concept of transsexual transformers
It was one of the most acclaimed runs in years and sold well, unlike the reboot that followed, and the current Transformers run is the second relaunch inside ten years and the hype is frankly overblown just because it’s more action oriented.
>It was one of the most acclaimed runs in years
Parts were good. Much of it was just one anticlimax after another with Roberts's brand of soapy hackery strewn along the way.
>and the hype is frankly overblown just because it’s more action oriented.
Maybe this is what
means when he said:
>I want you to consider this possibility seriously: comics sell better if they simply give the audience what the audience wants, or at least make an honest attempt to.
>IDW 2.0 drags out shit
>Skybound gets right down to the action
>Why do people praise this a lot?!
>Amazing Spider-Man does a shittier attempt at doing Brand New Day again but this time more people are complaining about it
>USM has Peter and Mary Jane married and Peter not acting like a complete loser (yet)
>Why do people praise this a lot?!
What it tells me is that Marvel and DC does not understand its customer base while trying to use bad fans as an excuse to not listen to any criticism
Yeah, no. Hype is nearly always completely ridiculous and exaggerated compared to the actual content and focused to midwit material that gets praised because people are projecting whatever stupid shit they think it’s doing rather than what it actually is. And usually there is much better stuff out there.
Ultimate Spider-man having people cum in their pants because Peter is married with kids in an otherwise mediocre at best introductory story about Peter having a mild and so far entirely bland midlife crisis is fricking ridiculous. And it’s fuelled entirely by outrage bullshit and people living in echo chambers where they barely consume anything and claim it’s because everything is shit.
>And usually there is much better stuff out there.
Where?
People repeatedly getting hyped up over Hickman comics and never learning their lesson is proof that the audience is full of idiots, acting more on feelings and hype than anything else. And the thing about that is that they can just as easily flip to irrational level of hate. Just look at how furiously people jerk offd to King’s Batman and the only reason they immediately started hating it was because the marriage didn’t happen. Same thing with Scott Snyder’s mostly mediocre and cartoonish Batman run after getting some hype + acclaim for his James jr. and Court of Owls stories. Or how the hype train when people thought OMD was going to get reversed even though the stories weren’t anything special.
>People repeatedly getting hyped up over Hickman comics and never learning their lesson is proof that the audience is full of idiots,
But if it was just about Hickman, then Ultimate Invasion and G.O.D.S. would've done as well as Ultimate Spider-Man.
They didn't. In fact didn't Akira Yoshida have to call shops up and ask them to buy G.O.D.S.?
Ultimate Invasion had huge hype and absurdly sold well given the price given the limited data we can look at. And GODS has initial hype until it turned out to be another ignorable slow moving SHIELD type title with not important characters in it, plus attention to it got buried due to OMG USM IS THE BEST COMIC EVER AHHHHHHHH I CAN’T STOP CUMMING!!!!
>And GODS has initial hype
What initial hype? All the talk I ever saw for that when it was announced, was people saying that the cover price was way too high, and that Akira Yoshida had to call up retailers to get them to order the book. I still don't even know what G.O.D.S. is about since I still haven't bothered to go read it.
Speculative hype.
Didn't see that either. In fact going through the sold listings on eBay right now I see that someone paid $40 for a CGC 9.8 of the G.O.D.S. #1 regular cover. That's kind of close to how much it costs to get something graded.
frick off homosexual with energon yes its bunch ot shill but hickman new ultimate universe actually good
>It’s going on pretty transparently with Hickman’s USM now too, for instance.
how can anyone fall for "hickmanshit good this time"?
You have got to be kidding.
Cinemaphile has laughable traffic, spam protection, and annoying captcha. If you were a grassroots marketer and told your boss you wanted to work Cinemaphile, a comic pirate site, to get comic sales and good word of mouth, you'd be fired, and when you applied for your next job you'd be laughed at.
Even as far as it's fallen, you can reach 1000 times the people with 1% of the effort and trivial costs on Twitter.
>I like guns
>he has a broken gun
This is why you hire Koreans and Japanese gun enthusiasts.
I don't care for the shared universe angle, but the Transformers book has been genuinely great so far.
Void Rivals is great so far. Transformers is serviceable, but could certainly be better. I don't care for the artstyle at all and wish the story was less decompressed, but nothing in it's been offensively bad. I couldn't even finish Duke or Cobra Commander, they're both terrible with bad art. Thank God they're letting Hama continue RAH alongside this crap.
Also, I know it's the main draw for a lot of people, but I really dislike the concept of tying G.I.Joe's origin to the Transformers.
It’s far more stupid to make Cobra-la canon in this relaunch.
>Thank God they're letting Hama continue RAH alongside this crap.
You would think that but Hama just turned Serpentor, Mindbender and tons of Cobra troops to flesh eating intelligent zombies for no fricking reason and he won’t let go of the blue cyborg ninja AI hivemind plot thread.
I hate the continued Hama run. I strongly detest it. I wanted to like it at first... but it went nowhere fast. Its fricking moronic and even Devil's Due did a better follow up to the original RAH run. GI Joe deserves a better reboot and it needs to feel like the original Hama stuff or Special Missions.
OP is a homosexual
>it's s.o.i. because people like it
Frick off
I hate this art. Its so sketchy and cheap. I feel like I could draw this.
I love it. It's my favorite art in a Transformers book in a long time.