>This is a stock exchange there's no money to steal!
>Really? Then why are you here?
Goddamn Nolan that's fricking deep
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>This is a stock exchange there's no money to steal! >Really?
I would like to hear the writers of this scene actually try to explain how investing in various companies is a form of theft, or was Bane meant to be a moron?
It's theft because they're literally not producing anything.
Even if we accept your moronic take, thats still not theft as they arent taking anything. Companies go public of their own accord and ask for outsiders to invest and these investors are motivated to due so on the idea that they will get a return.
Youre a moron who doesnt know how money works and thinks its all some satanic plot.
Like I said, is Bane meant to be moronic?
i’m sorry bro i’m just waiting for you to say how you aren’t wrong or stupid
I want you to explain in like a sentence or two what you think the stock market is and/or how they are engaging in theft by investing in different companies.
yes you want me to teach you because you know nothing that much is very clear
So you cant do it, got it. Like I said, youre an idiot who thinks this stuff is too complex so you attribute it to being evil magic basically.
Its not that complicated dude, people invest in other companies for a share of it, and then that share either increases or decreases in value. Anyone from super rich people to college kids working at McDonalds can invest btw.
you’re just projecting and explaining nothing
stop posting moron
I've explained it twice already while you continue to dodge the question. This is because youre a stupid troon who doesnt know how money works and think its some evil ritual.
Instead of buying another funko pop to jerk off on, you could save money from your wagie job and invest it in the company that makes them. Its like $6 a share
ok so you’re stupid and don’t know anything
sorry snowflake, this isnt a safe space for you. Youre also not a woman.
can you prove any of those things as well as you did the stock market
>is so mad he cant even write out a proper sentence
lol stupid troon.
you just made a bad post because you’re stupid and mad
So true!
Do you have a breadtube video made by an anime avatar troony that can explain this to me?
>It's theft because they're literally not producing anything.
They're allocating capital to companies which are improving their earnings, more or less. Which helps the good companies produce more
Stock markets are secondary markets thoughbeit
So what?
>They're allocating capital to companies which are improving their earnings, more or less. Which helps the good companies produce more
so a company is only good if it produces more in perpetuity?
Ah, a fellow Producerist! I suppose you share this sentiments towards all bullshit tech jobs not just stock trade? Do you?
>It's theft because they're literally not producing anything
I hope "they" is referring to the federal government as taxation is theft and the government does not "earn" any money it holds. It just taxes and prints money
Just like the government steals money through taxes, the capitalist steals money through wage labour. Neither has a valid claim to the produced value. It belongs to the one who created it - the workers.
still waiting for you to explain how stock markets are "theft" you stupid troon
>voluntary exchange is somehow theft.
commies are straight up moronic
Voluntary exchange makes both parties better off
The coffee shop would rather have the 2$ in my pocket over the coffee in their pot
I would rather have a cup of coffee over the 2 1$ bills. It's win win, otherwise the transaction would not happen. Work is the same principal. I can quit whenever I want and they can fire me whenever they want
>Just like the government steals money through taxes
If you think about the system, it is quite farcical. By design the government dilutes the value of currency (ie inflation) to discourage people sitting on money lest the economy should enter a deflationary tailspin. But if the government can already (and willingly) print money at its whim then to what purpose do taxes really serve?
>all artists are thieves
eh, I can buy it
seems like you’re the moron here anon
It is morally ambiguous because the same people who "invest" in the market are the ones who have stakes in control of the banks.
If you have $1000 to your name, you can invest in the market if you want. Why do you guys keep referencing this imaginary barrier or this idea that its impossible for anyone other than the extremely wealthy to invest?
Back in the 90s it was totally normal for middle class families and regular people to invest in the stock market.
Exactly, I started with 5k. There are some braindamaged people in this thread
poor people don’t exist
nobody could be so stupid to be poor, i refuse to believe it
don’t they know anybody can invest?
If you have money, you can invest. What part of this dont you understand?
Reminder that the original claim was that investing in the stock market is "theft" because...well it just is ok?!
i’m agreeing with you my really smart friend
Some people may not have any spare cash to invest. Some people may not be good at it, or enjoy it. They can do something else. A job they like. Or start a business. Investing isn't FOR everybody. But ANYONE can do it
why does this inane and irrelevant fact tickle your autism so much
The question is not "Why do poor people exist", having no resources is the default human state
The question is why are some people rich?
Why are Mexicans crossing the border into America and not the other way around? Why did Europe colonize Africa and not the other way around?
I guarantee that the moron who wrote this dialog understands the stock market at an 8th grade level.
I don't think it was meant to say investors are stealing money, just that there is money there that could be stolen, and that the guy wouldn't be there if there wasn't any money.
>make batman lose all his money through terrorist fraud
>it sticks and he is legit broke as if those transactions would not be reversed instantly
this movie was legitimately fricking stupid
Sorry the computer says that money belongs to the criminal terrorist that's seiging the city now nothing we can do about it sir
I know you're joking but I've said similar things during my years in finance
The heist doesn't actually do anything with his trades, they're done by someone else who has Wayne's fingerprint so it looks like he just went in and made the trades. The heist is just a distraction to prevent the market from being used after the trades go through.
>bravo nolan i love you
Did you actually think Bane was the one buying the stocks in Bruce's name?
The point is either way it's goofy as hell, just like the plane scene.
Because?
Because it's a moronic plan presented as a genius plan.
What's moronic about it?
Requires too much convenient incompetence from the fictional characters/institutions involved. Like the CIA guy just blindly accepting additional prisoners from the shady group he's doing business with, or the richest guy in town losing all of his money instantly without there being double checks or all trade being suspended as a result of his heist.
The trade goes through before the heist. The movie outright states he'll be able to prove the fraud eventually.
No anon, the trade shouldn't go through at all. That's what double check means?
Gem
I hate this trope where the villian has this absurdly complex master plan that goes perfectly, even though it requires other people to react in a very specific way out of the control of the villain. The Dark Knight is a perfect example of this.
Monster (tranime) is the perfect example of it. Nothing is worse than Monster. A regular guy can predict everything and has thousands of people he has manipulated perfectly so everything works out decades into the future
He perfectly manipulated a kid into shooting him in his brain so he can set into motion a plan to frick with the doctor who saves his life by poisoning all enemies of this doctor while in a coma
Tbh I think Johan is pretty overrated, for me the best part of monster was the slice of life sections of dr tenma helping people, gathering clues and evading the cops, I really don't understand why he is so overshadowed by Johan, sure his "le killing is le bad" mindset can be pretty annoying, but I really enjoyed watching him just wandering the country
every single thing you just said is wrong. don't try to critique a work intelligently, you are an actual moron and that entire story went over your smooth mongoloid brain.
that still wouldn't work. the stock market may allow someone with 10k to take everything, but if someone with the astronomical amount of money that Bruce has, they will stop the sale and do double and triple checks.
Isn't there was a case about someone misunderstood trading invoice and sell 300,000 shares for 10 dollars, but not 10 shares for 300,000 dollars?
>Bruce Wayne "goes broke"
>They cut off his power like 30 minutes later
>looks like Wilfred forgot to pay the electrical bill
*well be right back folks after these messages*
>wilfred
who? kys
Didn’t it not really affect him in any way? Its not like the Batmobile got repossessed or something
Pic related has a billionaire heir as part of the team and he gets extorted by some hacker terrorist in one of the seasons and basically has to give away his family's fortunes so some random village in the Middle East doesn't get BTFO by a hacked drone, I always though it was completely moronic how his fortunes were just sitting on his bank account instead of being tied up in assets and how it could just be transferred at a moment's notice as if the bank wouldn't be curious why presumably tens of hundreds of millions of dollars were being moved to an unknown account.
>his fortunes were just sitting on his bank account
This isn't what happens in TDKR
What part about my post made you think I was talking about TDKR?
You responded to a post misinterpreting the scenario in that film, then brought up another one about a terrorist hacking away someone's funds from their bank account. I assumed you were likening the two scenes, is that not what you were doing? Why respond to that post if not?
Jesus. There's autism and then there's whatever the frick you have.
I don't know how you're even able to function on a basic level.
Why did you bring it up? Sounds like you're dodging the question.
The other guy who replied to you isn't me, but I attached a picture of another show to my post referred to it. That should be an indicator that I'm talking about something else with a similar plot.
That is the Top Gun guy, right?
Many of these up and coming young actors are actually quite old when compared to previous stars.
It is him and you're right, all these "young" actors go back a while already, he was probably older here than Tom Cruise was in the original Top Gun
This movie really exposed Nolan as the complete moron he is.
I love this film I do the voices in my head sometimes and it makes me laugh
>please, sir, I will frick Sydney Sweeney's sweet breasts in 10 years, let me go
>Hangman
>gets choked
This is just like the bullshit in that show me robot where they can just "delete" the credit card debt. No, that doesn't work. They are going to use paper records, they are going to collect whatever evidence they can to get the money back that they are legally entitled to. They aren't just going to go oh well your account got deleted you don't owe us any money now I guess.
that can happen, but it falls within the statue of limitations. it is the same as when a bank accidentally gives money to someone and then calls for it back. As long as the bank acknowledges that they lost money and are willing to pursue, then it is considered stealing to not pay back the bank
Credit card companies don't waste their time trying to collect from deadbeats. They package the debt and auction it off to debt collection agencies who then gain legal right to collect the debt and are the crazy buttholes who harass people on the phone.
life pro tip: You can often negotiate your credit card debt down significantly (like half of what it is) especially if you offer to pay it in a lump sum. Debt collectors often buy your debt for a small fraction of what it was, and will take a lower amount just to be able to close your case and move on.
Better pro-er tip: Demand proof they have the legal right to collect on the debt. It is very unlikely that they do. Debts are often resold over and over and the paperwork becomes lost and xeroxed 20 times with less and less information each time. There is a legal threshold they have to meet to prove the debt they claim is yours is actually yours. A simple piece of paper with your name with an arrow next to it with an account number is not sufficient evidence. If they send you a notice to judgement you have to respond because if you don't then regardless of the validity of the debt a court order will enforce it against you then you will have to pay it off no matter what.
But the better solution would also be to pay your bills.
How does downloading the entire Stock Market onto a 128gb USB stick cause Batman to loose all his money?
His account was on the 128.01 GB
holy frick i haven't seen that myg0t animation in over 15 years.
I know you hack you fricking faygot!
Why does the power to Wayne Manor go out instantly implying he can’t pay the utility? You can not pay those for months it’s not like cable.
There are several scenes between him losing his assets and the power being cut out. Time passes between the scenes.
Multiple people laughed or said "Yeah!" during this scene.
They were then shot en masse. Coincidence?
no, not at all
LMFAO. Fricking poor phagz
There are stocks to steal thoughbeit
>have product
>sell product
>sell shares of company so others can make money off product
>wtf this is theft
Why are democrats so fricking moronic in this country? Atleast most republicans have the excuse of living in a trailer and never finishing high school but all democrats go to college
>but all democrats go to college
Schools dont teach things like civics, latin, grammar, history, business ect. and its all just bizarre sexual fetish propganda and "frick white people!" agitation. The recent ape outs over Israel are part of the anti white agitation part too btw.
Chimpouts against Israel are good doebeit
Good goy. You must make sure your children and your children's children never receive an ~~*education*~~.
strawman
These are things poor people/normies/online leftist troons dont understand:
>how the stock market works
>how net worth works
>how business accounts work
Quick crash course, when you read that celebrity X has a net worth of $50 Million (assuming thats accurate) this doesnt mean that they have $50 Million dollars in their bank account. Also, big corporate big wigs often have a very low salary and charge everything on their business accounts. Jeff Bezos for instants has a salary from Amazon of like $80k a year. Whenever you hear some moronic Democrat talking about raising his taxes, they are going to raise it on that 80k, or the upper middle class bracket.
>Nolan
>Leftist
The entire premise of his Batman trilogy is "What if Bush was Batman".
wha
Bane is the villian and he prays on the ignorant masses by appealing to their ignorance with left wing populism. The whole premise of the movie is that it has a french revolution sort of thing to it.
In what way is Batman like George Bush?
Both constructed a security apparatus to keep us safe and dedicated themselves to defeating terrorists, even when people hated them for it.
Bush created the DHS which is literally going after parents for opposing trannies in their schools.
Both were born into tremendous wealth and LARP as a bat/cowboy
i don’t think you understand any of those things either
>Bane: the buying and selling of stocks is theft
>Me: how?
>Bane: REEEEEEEEEEEEE!
You know how back during the age of discovery Kings and Queens would use their massive wealth to fund overseas adventures in search of Gold and other resources? Well the new Dutch Republic came up with this idea that rich merchants could pool their money together to fund expeditions like this. The amount of money you contributed would guarantee you a certain percentage of the goods the expedition found which would be documented on a document noting your share in the loot. Dutchmen would then sell and buy the rights to these shares, ensuring they would get the allotted share of return, which lead to the Dutch establishing the first ever "stock market" which today is known as Euronext.
Thats basically all a stock market is. People who think its "theft" are beyond moronic and have had their brains scrambled by too much troony porn.
hey guys you know 9/11
the stock market is like that
don’t listen to people i disagree with
>i-its just the rich doing it
Moving the goalpost. The original point of contention was that its "theft" which is isnt. Also, poor people and anyone can play this game if they want to. Trying to dimiss 401Ks, the main backbone of middle class retirement, as not being that important, is completely moronic and you know it.
online leftist are illiterate and know frick all about economics and this is just blind and adolescent "i hate rich people" shit
you do alot of backtracking and shit
you sound like a israelite
Thats not back tracking, thats what youre doing. This is because you're a stupid person incapable of thought which is why you can only respond with canned memes like an NPC.
i’m sorry but you have to actually prove things
>you have to spoonfeed my moronic ass or its not true!
lol you lost you moronic troon.
how many people in this thread agree with you now because of what you typed
Every single point I made has been objectively right, you havent even attempted to formulate a counter argument, and now youre begging me to explain it in even further detail
>grass is green
>ugh, source on that? post your sources!
stupid homosexual, enjoy choosing to be poor
so it’s zero and you’re mad and strasmanning now
Enjoy "working at the store" and being poor forever! I wish I was as smart as you and could name all of the logical fallacies rather than knowing how to invest money
The stock market is largely the elites trading which stolen wealth they own.
>But your 401k is in the stock market!
Don't care. The mega-wealthy receive almost all profits distributed to capital instead of labor.
NTA you're replying to
I invest in the stockmarket. I'm just some guy. You don't need to be elite, anyone has access. Including morons
The top 10% own 93% of the stock market. Your 401k is dimes thrown out of a carriage.
Well then try getting good at investing and make some money to own more? I do it as a second job after my day job. I'm not even talking about 401ks. Wealth is there for the taking if you're motivated
you’ve been gaslit and you think it’s healthy to spread the virus
Do you at all think widespread ignorance of economic matters, such as braindead leftoids in this thread thinking investing is "theft", has anything at all to do with these figures? That number used to be in like the 20% range until 2009
yeah people are leftists because you can’t explain anything
What percentage of tax receipts come from the top 10% of income earners?
Income taxes are far higher than capital gains taxes, good point. The people who receive money from owning things get to keep way more of it than the people who receive money by doing things.
Or they are just poor. Like 10 percent own over 60 percent of the market. Most own none.
>hollywierdos accidentally make the villain of their capeshit movie a communist
>Accidentally
See
. Nolan is a conservative.
Did you watch this movie? Bane is a terrorist who makes speeches appealing to communist ideals in order to get the people of Gotham all worked up. Hes telling them what they want to hear in order to build a base of populist support when his real goal is mass genocide (just like Lenin or any other communist leader)
why does this board have so many market fundamentalists now? you're seething because he insulted a wall street trader? just lol
>bait thread about how silly it is to imagine some guy can just break into 'the stock market' and somehow download bruce wayne's fortune onto a flash drive
>turns into another pseudo bait thread of people "discussing" how a stock market works
why was the first movie called the dark knight and the 2nd movie the dark knight rises
I don't care. Stockbroking is theft.
Occupy wallstreet. Eat the rich.