This is bad writing.

This is bad writing.

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Its industry standard writing actually.

  2. 2 years ago
    i am more intelligent than you

    >uoooooh! i'm a super hero but here i stand judging this other super hero that's more liked than i
    holy frick, comic books are for morons!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah.
      I also love how it goes from a convinced "I'm a good guy!" to a resigned "You're right, I'm a terrible piece of trash." in a single exchange. They're all made of silly putty...
      >I'm a philanthropist!
      >No, you're a white man!
      >You're right, I'm a terrible piece of trash.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >You're right, I'm a terrible piece of trash.
        404 - line note found

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Since fricking when do Marvel heroes have legal leeway?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Iron man 2

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >if you're willing to die for others and stand up against evil, it's PROBLEMATIC

    >if your power fantasy is helping other people and doing stuff that's the opposite of colonialsim its cuz you're WYT

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >if your power fantasy is helping other people and doing stuff that's the opposite of colonialsim its cuz you're WYT
      A power fantasy about saving others isn't the opposite of colonialism. You've literally described the white savior archetype, a driving force of colonialism. How fricking badly did you fail in social studies? Be honest?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_White_Man%27s_Burden

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        literally no one thinks violently enforcing a caste system is helping others, moron

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >literally no one thinks violently enforcing a caste system is helping others, moron
          Except the people calling for it at the time.

          And literally nobody thinks developing and piloting deadly robot suits, often with collateral damage or the plans eventually being leaked and used by criminals, instead of releasing your healing nanites and other miracles of science for the general public is helping others either.

          Except dipshits like Stark.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >at the time

            what the frick time is it now, genius? are we living in 1700s?

            >dipshits like stark
            okay, so this is about an individual being an entitled butthole, not MUH WHITE MYN. i agree with OP that it's bad writing

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >okay, so this is about an individual being an entitled butthole
              This is about an individual embracing an archetypal ideology where they seek power, especially over others, in order to carry out a self-appointed mission to save a society, because only they can.

              Hence, a white man "with a god complex", not just a white man.

              The white man part is simply pointing out there is historical precedence for this complex occurring in the socially advantaged by race and sex going back hundreds of years.

              She is informing him he's acting like a fricking stereotype, not claiming the stereotype is universally true, which it fricking isn't. I'm a white dude and society can go frick itself.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >is friends with Thor
                >god complex being a thing in a comic book universe

                frick off liberal. go actually read karl marx and stop wasting our time with your twitter bullshit

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                He literally created a Thor clone he engineered to be able to personally control. I cannot image a more god complexy thing to do other than be Doom.

                Waving Thor around as a sign Tony doesn't have a god complex is inane, especially since Thor has personally torn Tony a new butthole for his god complex before.

                I'm earnestly asking, do you even read comics?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                you're saying it's because he's white, aren't you?

                like OP said. bad writing. never mind bringing up that he was born in to wealth and privileged with class. nevermind the fact that marvel is always trying to have these characters one up each other with whatever fricked up shit, just like x-men.

                i'm earnestly asking, do you even read comics enough to know that the whole story was probably contrived JUST so some b***h can say "ermagerd white man"?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >you're saying it's because he's white, aren't you?
                No. No I am not. I am saying this because he's Tony Stark. Admit it. You don't read comics.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/YYffgZw.png

                Bruh

                okay let's go over this again.

                what's the top panel in the OP say on the right?

                how what did writers do with iron man, so that such a thing could be said? what is the definition of contrived?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/YYffgZw.png

                Bruh

                I don't think Iron Man is in any comics that are above mediocre.
                It's like this: if you see Iron Man as part of the cast in some comic, skip it.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Bruh

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                this is the mentality of a 12 year old that thinks hes smarter than his parents because he thinks their racist.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >literally bizarro iron man

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Did you seriously just use a comic where he's an extremely exaggerated evil version of himself to prove a point about his actual character

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Superheroes are White stereotypes?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Have you never heard of altruism?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                That's a lot of words to say "I'm an insecure American b***h who doesn't understand why anyone would want to help people without reward"

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >at the time.
            Way to destroy your idiotic argument, dumbass.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >instead of releasing your healing nanites and other miracles of science for the general public is helping others either
            All of which can be abused. You dumb c**t.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          You've still got nostalgic of the colonialism in countries where it ended in the mid 20th century. People arguing that the local population had better lives when their country was a colony.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            How much of that people are the local themselves?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Soooo... we should just let people die and become as selfish as possible because some black cuck said so?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Soooo... we should just let people die and become as selfish as possible because some black cuck said so?
          Uh...no?

          We should work within the frameworks of the societies we inhabit instead of claiming ourselves above them and attempting to play god or otherwise designate betters and lessers out of some misguided ego trip.

          [...]

          okay let's go over this again.

          what's the top panel in the OP say on the right?

          how what did writers do with iron man, so that such a thing could be said? what is the definition of contrived?

          >what's the top panel in the OP say on the right?
          Tony's behavior sounds like another white guy with a god complex
          >how what did writers do with iron man, so that such a thing could be said?
          Armor Wars, Civil War, any event or story involving a buster, AvX, Superior Iron Man, honestly just pick a fricking storyline other than Civil War 2.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            But according to you, trying to do anything just for the sake of doing good is working outside of said framework. Therefore, doing good is a waste of time and /misc/ was right again.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Answer

            2/2
            Identity politics is a cancer that has twisted your world view and we're not going to entertain that delusion. If you want to huff your own farts and virtue signal, tough, we don't cotton to that bullshit here. This world view is simple power politics. Anything can be justified if you simply have the power too do it, even doing the exact same sort of shit you critique different time periods and civilizations for doing. Pick up some principled stances before you come here spouting off your drivel.

            you bootsucking c**t

            I like Batman

            Best possible post to interrupt him with

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          A good act done for selfish reasons is morally grey at best.
          A person who is living a normal life, but sees someone in danger and puts themselves in harms way to help that person with no expectation of reward? Unambiguously a good person.

          But if you WANT to be a hero, actively pursue the notion that you are a 'hero' and taking steps to make that more likely... what are you really asking for? You are hoping that something bad will happen to someone else while you are nearby so you can save them. You are saving someone else's life, sure, but they are really just a prop in your story of self aggrandizement. This gets even worse if you are doing it specifically for fame and glory, or to satisfy some kind of self-validation like guilt.

          Actively going around looking for people in danger so you can save them is psychotic behavior disguised as altruism. Not even cops or firemen or rescue workers do that, they don't WANT an emergency to happen that requires them to intervene, they are just paid to be on call to respond in case something does happen. Unlike most super heroes, who actively seek out such situations and insert themselves into them.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >A good act done for selfish reasons is morally grey at best
            It's still a good act you tremendous fricking homosexual.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >>Self validation through guilt
            You're hitting at the core of many of the most beloved superheroes that's is to say Batman, Spiderman, Iron Man, Thor...
            Anyway everyone can be criticized, I don't know how can you ask them to change this about themselves. I'll argue trying to change it is in it of itself a self serving mentality because they would be so obsessed with increasing their goodness/ reducing their selfish thoughts that they come back around into being bad.
            In this case I claim just let them be or that they at some points in their lives this guilt based heroism "goes away." At some point it likely returns as mental states come in cycles, specially if something happens that makes them feel specially guilty and thus remember past trauma

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            You sound like a massive selfish c**t.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >You are hoping that something bad will happen to someone else while you are nearby so you can save them
            ...Orrr, you live in such a shitty area that you know bad shit constantly happening around you is inevitable, so you become a sort of "guardian" of the people.

            That the ACTUAL, narrative rationale for many popular street-level heroes taking action, not this half-baked philosophy of yours.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >This gets even worse if you are doing it specifically for fame and glory, or to satisfy some kind of self-validation like guilt.
            >Actively going around looking for people in danger so you can save them is psychotic behavior disguised as altruism.
            Why does any of that shit matter? If you are in trouble you are gonna be thankful for the help, who gives a rats ass about what the dude doing it is thinking?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        White guilt wasn’t on the curriculum when I was graduated.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >White guilt
          What sort of brain damage would you have to have to feel guilty over shit a bunch of old dead dudes did?

          What sort of child refuses to learn about the past because they're afraid of feelin such nonsensical guilt?

          Grow a pair and a brain.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            We've always learned about history. It's just that now all of Western history is presented in a way that pathologises whiteness

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Soooo... we should just let people die and become as selfish as possible because some black cuck said so?
        Uh...no?

        We should work within the frameworks of the societies we inhabit instead of claiming ourselves above them and attempting to play god or otherwise designate betters and lessers out of some misguided ego trip.

        [...]
        >what's the top panel in the OP say on the right?
        Tony's behavior sounds like another white guy with a god complex
        >how what did writers do with iron man, so that such a thing could be said?
        Armor Wars, Civil War, any event or story involving a buster, AvX, Superior Iron Man, honestly just pick a fricking storyline other than Civil War 2.

        Is the crux of this sperg-out REALLY just the fact that your ability to suspend disbelief is faulty?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Colonialism is good.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Only White people should be saved

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I guess it's valid to be this negative about all possible actions a person can do.
    If she was consistent everyone will be a sort of self serving monster that can't function because even she's just an egoist in denial

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Batman mask with big yellow eyebrows
    Is her outfit meant to be comedic?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      no, because women can't have the same complexes as men. there are no female comic book characters who act the same way, don't you know, anon? white female comic characters don't exist!

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I really don´t get this fallacious logic.
    Was this written by a psychopath or something?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Lots of media is these days.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    it's not like she has any legitimate points, she's a woman.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Correct. Modern feminist filth just want to tear apart anything that a man does. If Tony were a woman, Hellcat wouldn't be giving him this shit.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Women lacking opinions of any value long predates the concept of feminism

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This run, albeit slow, is the best Tony has been in a long time. Can't believe someone actually remembered Vic Martinelli or the roller skates

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Ewing also remembers the Roller skates in his Ultron forever mini a couple of years back.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    "Hwat a b***h."
    -Hank Hill, 1996.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Libtards defend this purely because it's propaganda. Literally nothing else. They can't actually justify this crap from a writing perspective.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Modern people think letting a kid drown in a pond instead of helping is the high road because the person who saves them is just doing it for clout.
    These people are not worth engaging with.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Modern people don't understand morality in general. It is like not understanding the law. Most people can go on with their lives not being a lawyer; but unlike with the law, you can't hire a lawyer for morality.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Modern people
      >Kant
      No. Also, frick Kant.

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Shitting on Tony is par for the course in Marvel but why the frick did they have to drag Hellcat to Mockingbird's level?

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Just what the hell happened to Hellcat to make writers latch onto her and use her as a sociopolitical mouthpiece for homosexual leftism???

    It's funny seeing her talk all this good shit about Stark when you've got Black Panther running around leading Wakanda and not helping their neighboring African countries cause they're selfish pricks.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >It's funny seeing her talk all this good shit about Stark when you've got Black Panther running around leading Wakanda and not helping their neighboring African countries cause they're selfish pricks.
      1. Wakanda does help neighboring countries and even takes in refugees from Europe when shit hits the fan there.
      2. T'Challa's way more progressive on that front than most of the ruling class.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        1/2
        So you're just picking and choosing now? Because I could say literally the exact same thing about Tony. He was always suppose to be a philanthropic genius with a bit of an ego problem, but still morally complex when you peered under the veneer of shallowness. He's donated to charity, provided scientific break through for civilian life and a plethora of other things. You could argue that he does it out of a sense of guilt and a desire to become a hero, but that isn't because she's some rich white guy, it's because he use to build just weapons to kill people and he wants to make up for that if he can.
        Likewise, I could say T'challa isn't always some perfect paragon of virtue, he's actually quite villainous. As mentioned, we've seen examples of him enforcing an isolationist policy wherein Wakanda doesn't help it's neighbors, building a wall around their territory and letting people die of starvation outside of it. Where is his contribution of vibranium and Wakandan miracles to the wider world? In one story line he entertained using a cure for cancer as a political bartering chip. If I were to take the least charitable interpretation, he's an entitled elitist who views his heroism as nothing more than excuse to protect his own interests as the ruler of a sovereign nation, not unlike Doom, as you say. I don't make this interpretation however, since I know he's a genuinely compassionate man, who truly wants to help the world, just not too fast, so as to avoid throwing the world into chaos.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          2/2
          Identity politics is a cancer that has twisted your world view and we're not going to entertain that delusion. If you want to huff your own farts and virtue signal, tough, we don't cotton to that bullshit here. This world view is simple power politics. Anything can be justified if you simply have the power too do it, even doing the exact same sort of shit you critique different time periods and civilizations for doing. Pick up some principled stances before you come here spouting off your drivel.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I love when it's white women trying to pull up white men on their privilege as if they don't enjoy most of the exact same privileges with none of the critique because they've somehow convinced actual oppressed minorities that they're closer to them than they are to white men.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I like Batman

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'm going to miss indoor plumbing. That was my favorite part of white supremacy.

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Wow, Stark has some pretty shitty friends, or is there some other reason why she's in the room with him?

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think a woman who married the Devil's LITERAL son has any right to judge anybody.

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Hellcat
    Of course it's bad writing. She's just one of those poison characters that you literally can't do anything worthwhile with nowadays.

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >white men can't be heroes
    >even if they do something heroic it's just to erase their original sin of being white
    They're just saying the quiet part loud now

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Black Panther is much more guilty of this than Iron Man she should be b***hing at him

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Well frick you hellcat when was the last time you did something of note.

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This is good writing. Someone needs to speak truth to the power that crackers wield.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I tried to diddle the dialogue up without compromising the original intention. The idea's still there, but subtextually, the interaction alludes to more. Hopefully it sounds less preachy. The middle two panels should still be tense, though. That's where their contention is more than banter. Last panel is the relief (sounds too Bendis-esque for my liking; seriously, frick that guy). Would be better if I didn't use MS paint and could use custom speech bubbles, but the pacing and preaching is what I really sought to remediate. It's not a grand gesture.

      No, it really isn't. Regardless of subject matter, the delivery reads like the fan fiction of an eight grade girl who knows about super-heroes through only tumblr. Please go outside.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah. That's better. Especially on that 1st panel.

        You're right about that delivery seeming childish. The dialogue feels like one mind agreeing with it's own idea.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        congrats on your weight loss dude.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Thank you breh :')

          Yeah. That's better. Especially on that 1st panel.

          You're right about that delivery seeming childish. The dialogue feels like one mind agreeing with it's own idea.

          [...]
          Agreed, that's definitely better.

          Thank you, thank you. I like playing with dialogue; it's a shame most writers struggle with it in comics. They need script doctors more than editors.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah. That's better. Especially on that 1st panel.

        You're right about that delivery seeming childish. The dialogue feels like one mind agreeing with it's own idea.

        Agreed, that's definitely better.

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I miss when Patsy was fun.

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Talking about her morality is fun

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    and average art it seems

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder israelites hate whites and want us dead down to the last baby, but they want to first torment us by slowly destroying every aspect of our culture, and then brainwashing us to think we never one as they slowly seperate all of us from our property and make us too poor to resist what is currently happening to us, they have already put a famine into motion in order to begin mass killing us.

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This run is atrocious

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      the book is a decent read whenever Patsy walker is not in the book when it is just Tony doing stuff it is decent. the problem is that Cantwell is clearly more interested in Patsy Walker than any other character.

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I hate how this single page has sunk the best Iron Man run since Matt Fraction.

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The greatest thing white women ever accomplished is convincing everyone that they're a minority.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Technically Europeans are a much smaller percent of the world population than other races.

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Mousevel
    >bad writing
    Yeah, that checks out.

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I guess

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