>This is how a deadbeat working minimum wage lived in 1994

>Wood isn't really jumping up in demand

When Covid started picrel trippled in price. I looked it up and it had something to do with Trump and Germany. I used tons of these in my house, luckily I was finished with that before Covid.

We're down, but not back to pre-coof levels. Really spiked during covid to the point I didn't want to do wood projects.

>a 2023 dollar is worth about 0.6 2018 dollar, that's fricking insane
Kek what's your source, shadowstats?

>the fact that most of those are just trees grown for consumption
So? Why does that matter? There are more trees. Just because they are used and then replaced doesn't mean there will eventually be less trees.
There will probably be even more in 10 years lol
>and so much previously untouched forest has been stripped
I dont give a frick, hippie subhuman

The great delusion so many operate under is that the powers that be are unaware of how incorrect Keynes was and are simply uneducated in the Austrian school.
They know what they are doing.

Keynesianism benefits the elites

cool i dont give a frick about the environment of third world hell holes full of Black folk and in fact I hope their ecosystems collapse and humans within them perish

not before I destroy every nonwhite child with a sledgehammer

I seriously can not wait until things get bad and its open season on socialists. They are always the first ones targeted for slaughter, kill the useless eaters first.

>1980
Cool, now compare to 1880 or 1780.

That's something that I like to bring up when people talk about various cryptids like Bigfoot or big cats staying hidden in some pockets of forest in the US that they assume are untouched because today you only have a couple of hiking trails through them. You just need to take a look at logging maps from when America was the world's lumber supplier and it becomes quite obvious that no animal could remain hidden anywhere near the east coast, or coasts in general, because first they clear-logged that shit and sent the logs down rivers and then they built railroads into the places with no good rivers and clear-logged those spots too.

seethe harder

>talk about how much of the US was logged in the 1800s
>REEE SHUT UP STOP SEETHING COVID ISN'T REAL
You should take your meds and go to bed, gramps.

Why does someone talking about how much of the US was clear-logged in the 1800s make you this butthurt? Do you think that if you just continue saying moronic shit like calling people commies then people will get as butthurt as you are?

You're the only one here acting mad, anon. By a large margin. Mad and making shit up about what other people think so you can be mad at that as well.

That's it, just keep making up shit to be mad about so you can feel like you're winning your little hissy fit argument.

Yeah but what if the cryptids uhhh hid in their underground cave networks?

but yeah it's quite staggering since there was 0 effort to replant trees. entire regions were just barren. I need to find a few pictures, it was really stunning

God gave us dominion over all life on Earth.

>salting the earth so nothing can grow

No, they just don't work. You're probably the moron that's bleaching his mother's lawn.

If you lay down weed barriers in the spring, and leave them untouched, by fall there will be just as many weeds growing on them as a plot with no barriers at all.

You're pouring bleach onto the areas. It's the bleach doing it, not the barrier.

I thought you did it once a year. Which is it.

>Nooo I was just pretending to be moronic!

Who's gonna stop me? You, Bond? Unless you want to be staring down the barrel of my 0.357 for much longer, I suggest you hit the pavement.

>if you actually did any landscaping yourself, you would have said vinegar instead of bleach.
I'm a hobbyist. If you can even call it that. Let me guess: vinegar is better for the soil? I don't care. Nothing needs to grow there. It's not like I'm putting industrial amounts of bleach into the soil. I use about one bottle.

>this homie is literally salting the earth (with bleach) to avoid mowing the lawn once every 2 weekends, or buying a robomower.

>But like I said: for my purposes, I only need one bottle
Except that it takes one bottle several times a year, you are literally trying to avoid chemical maintenance, by applying chemical maintenance when all you really had to do was move your fat ass in a circle a few times every couple of week to mow down all the bullshit that tries to grow.

Its not, though, you are lying, it only takes 2 days for the bleach to break down assuming it doesn't just get washed out by the rain and the soil recovers in 2-3 months, then weeds start sprouting again.

>dude why don't you just go on reddit and check whether they're happy with purchasing the plastic strips
>even though anyone who has ever claimed it worked are clearly coping over the waste of money since they still have to deal with weeds, just "not as much"
You were had by an infomercial-tier product, moron.

>Ganging up
you should think about leaving Cinemaphile by killing yourself

do you live in the southwest? they literally don't work where stuff actually grows, weeds are as strong as trees here and blow right through it

they don't work, they break down after a year or two, or faster depending on where you live. weed with your hands like a human or stop larping as a homeowner

>Lazy bum should have some pride
His pride is in having the biggest bush.

It's apparently a double edged sword, they can get you trown out of your property (after a lawsuit) but it also ensures that only a certain demographic is able to live there and keep it nice and safe.

To clarify, the hedge is adjacent to the sidewalk. It's the barrier between the sidewalk and his garden. I'm assuming they would just trim the outside and the top. Not actually enter his yard.

What? Americans don't give a shit about what their property looks like. In Switzerland they'd call the fricking police on you.

>The suburbs are actual nature
The absolute state.

From a walnut tree or the nuts themselves? I could see how someone could include walnut sap into making wine which could be fortified into a Port wine, but the nut itself? The oils in the nuts would not conducive to fermentation in your wine must.

It tasted more mellow and less agressive. It lacked an ingredient. Maybe it was anti-freeze.

people know cities exist dummy, they arent a secret...yet the overwhelming majority choose to live in the suburbs or smaller towns. If you were to ask people that live in the suburbs if like the city, most will say they dont. Going into the city is often a chore and avoided if possible

>people dont know whats good for them
Have you read Animal Farm by chance?

>Is this the scariest scene imaginable to suburbanites?

No, it's the perfect representation of you and your shitty lifestyle choices lol.

Imagine trying to make pic related seem worse, you already lost

and snakes. Mow that shit.

That looks like grandma's house she retired to. Im a young guy. I dont want to live in grandma's isolated cottage, i want to live somewhere where i can easily meet people, frick people, and do things.
Also i dont want to do a pissing contest with photos, but old ornamented urban architecture and art deco are beautiful. And low rise apartments and townhouses can be very charming with the right style and paint jobs.

I drive 5 minutes on my neighborhood roads and 10 minutes on the highway to get to the nearest grocery store. There are several hours per weekday that I cannot leave my neighborhood without getting stuck in stop and go traffic because of all the commuters. I live in the suburbs of Virginia.

It is the nearest grocery store. I do not live in the country. I live on three quarters of an acre in the 'burbs.

It is a suburb in a commuter town. I've lived out in the boonies before, you've got a hell of a lot longer than a 15 minute trip into a commercial district.

Zoning laws?

No, it's the moronic democrats doing it. Why are you such a homosexual? You're the only one who mentioned big bad Republicans. Your brain has so many holes in it that you really can't interpret anything beyond your stupid red vs. blue culture war shit. It's sad.

cities were never completely liberal dominated until mass third world immigration
just like universities werent liberal until they were taken over by communists in the mid 20th century
youre observing a specifically contemporary phenomenon and extrapolating it to the entire concept of a city
even today there are major cities in mormon country that are conservative and mostly white

not sure how that changes anything with regard to what should happen now, unless you're proposing to bring back segregation (which isn't going to happen).

>the point is we should allow more dense and multi-use development everywhere, including white small cities/towns
how are you going to ensure that these developments are only filled with white people?

see

>we shouldnt take in unlimited immigrants
lets sort this out first then we can decide what kind of housing arrangements we're going to have

Unless we address the immigration first there is nothing to discuss.

"Fail" how? Nobody would want to live in it? There arent any people that want to move out of their parents place but cant afford a huge detached home? There arent any people down on their luck and suffering especially from inflation? There arent any young people that need to save money to be able to buy a house?
The whole country can't be a playground for wealthy boomers.

Lel that makes no sense, there is nothing unique about your area that would make an apartment building more maintenance-intensive than anywhere else
Also wouldnt it be better for there to be more housing supply, decreasing prices, so fewer people have to be subsidized by your tax dollars? If people need to be subsidized how does that not prove something is wrong

Even if the drive is just 5 or 10 minutes.
How is driving on an ocean of asphalt, eyes focused on cars, signs, and possible obstacles, more pleasant than walking or biking the same amount of time (keeping you healthier) with your eyes able to see architecture, shops, trees, and fellow people?

not everyone is a sickly curmudgeon like you

driving can be extremely relaxing, unless you driving in a dense urban environment

both suck

I wasnt saying driving in sprawl is scary. Its just boring and repetitive, theres no visual stimulation besides what you need to pay attention to to drive safely.

If you need to take a drive so bad, you are always free to do that in whatever kind of area you live. I like driving for its own sake occasionally just to clear my head. But at the same time i dont want to be forced by car-centric sprawl to drive to get anywhere important.
Thats the problem, suburbanites dont understand the asymmetry that legally mandated sprawl causes. It forces everyone to rely on cars. But dense, human-centric development doesnt take away your right to own and drive a car.

I would love to. The problem is the city is less affordable than it could be because very little area is allowed to be built densely and multi-use like a traditional city. So much land is zoned to be exclusively spread-out single-family homes, even within major city boundaries.
Again, you dont seem to understand that car-centric development is MANDATED on us. People are starting to agitate against stuff like parking minimums in cities, but it takes a long time to overturn decades-old status quo.

>The problem is the city is less affordable
that's a you problem not a me problem. you seem to want everywhere to be like the city, while I and others are happy for there cities, suburbs, and rural areas, and for people to sort themselves into the ones that suit them best.

Cities are the only actual productive units outside farms. Suburbs are extremely expensive to build and maintain and the tax dollars from surbanites aren't enough to cover it. Cities have always been required to subsidize suburbanite parasites. I just want the cost of living in cities and the cost of living in the suburbs to reflect the true market value instead of the government artificially making cities more expensive and making suburbs cheaper. Then and only then am I fine with people making a choice. As it stands it's like if you criticize welfare queens and I say "why don't you just let people who want to live on welfare life on welfare? Why force them into your lifestyle?"

Yep. You see it in the diversity debate too. Some people like diversity and others don't. But rather than be content to have their diverse metropolises and leave the less densely-populated parts of countries to remain mostly homogeneous, they have to insist that every square inch of a country become like London, Paris, or New York. They can't share a country with people who prefer homogeneity, they have to conquer them.

>posts a picture of people in poverty partially because housing is unaffordable which is directly caused by suburbanites restricting housing supply

google "law of supply and demand" it will blow your mind

Your housing is unaffordable because you are taking in over 5 million homeless immigrants every year, and giving them free housing.

>disallow dense housing
Dense housing is allowed where it is needed and makes sense.

please provide some evidence of that with specific examples

>the demand is much greater than the supply
in countries with mass-migration

Leave him alone. He has to drive an entire 10 minutes to get to a grocery store where he can buy food that is already gathered and prepared for him. He's basically oppressed by big oil or something.

>But at the same time i dont want to be forced by car-centric sprawl to drive to get anywhere important.

So don't live in some shithole?

You frickers conflate some Texas sprawl hell with normal and nice suburbs.

I live in a comfy suburb. I can walk to the store and it takes 2-5 minutes over driving. Biking is the same time as driving. I have more options and a nicer living situation than city dwellers.

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>The problem is the city is less affordable
that's a you problem not a me problem. you seem to want everywhere to be like the city, while I and others are happy for there cities, suburbs, and rural areas, and for people to sort themselves into the ones that suit them best.

I dont understand why city people want to force their way of life on everyone...as if its the only way to live. You dont see people that live in small towns or suburbs going on about how everyone should live in the burbs. No, they just live their lives. I dont know what is wrong with city people.

its like talking to a brick wall. you should read the zoning laws in your area to understand what im talking about. the status quo is that most development is legally required to be suburban. thats not freedom of choice like youre talking about. if anything i support more freedom - the freedom of developers to choose how they wish to develop the land they own. when they are given the choice, you may be surprised to see how many people prefer density to sprawl

I mean there are zoning laws that keep industrial areas and suburban areas separate. However, you are way around the bend if you think industrial development is discouraged

what is the "freedom of the people already living there"? the freedom to restrict other law-abiding citizens freedom? peak suburban mental gymnastics

You just don't understand the HUSTLE and BUSTLE. That's how humans are supposed to live. Stacked on top of each other, with no racial/ethnic solidarity, with no family, with no money. THAT is human nature, chud. And you WILL accept it.

the funny thing is im right-wing. cities were the traditional way of living in europe for thousands of years. suburbanism is just a social experiment that has a veneer of perverted "conservatism" while destroying social stability

What you're doing is arguing that slavery abolition is wrong because it restricts the freedom of slave owners to do what they want with their own property. You aren't some genius for pointing put all freedoms come at the expense of someone else's.

>and have virtually zero violent crime
I wouldn't go that far.

Let me introduce you to the anon who made the original comment

>cities were the traditional way of living in europe for thousands of years
They also used to be 100% white and have virtually zero violent crime, yet here we are.

rather than me who disagreed with him

12 (twelve) doce (6x2) murders in the entire STATE OF NEW YORK in 1864. But please continue with your Harvey Weinstein-produced "history".

12 murders.

In 1864, there was a grand total of 12 (twelve) murders in the entire state of New York. You can look these numbers up for yourself. That's a normal Friday night in any random black neighborhood in America now.

This looks great. But you need to be in a good community.

I got new neighbours about a month ago. I haven't gone to introduce myself. I haven't even seen them. When I moved into the neighbourhood I rang on my neighbours' door to introduce myself. People appreciated it.
I'm curious about them, but I also don't want to ring on their door like I'm forcing myself on them, you know. They're in my hood now. They should come to me.

If they died immediately it doesn't matter where you lived