I don't buy Fiona's decision at the end. She was born a human and spent all her life with a spell that caused her to become an ogress after sunset, and it was a form which she despised. She could only be a human for half of a day. At the end of first film, the spell is broken and she turns permanently into the ogress (to her dissapointment at first). A few weeks later, at the end of second film, she has the opportunity to be a human again and this time permanently (no ogress for half a day spell like she had for more than 2 decades) and alongside a human Shrek (who made it clear that he was willing to leave his ogre body for her), yet she rejects the opportunity and goes back to being an ogress permanently. I don't buy it.
It shows 2 things. That interracial relationships dont work. We get 2 ogres or 2 humans. Also that women arent loyal to their heritage and are motivated soley by sex. Thats why the spell turns her full ogre instead of the curse being lifted.
>Harold finally gives his blessing to Shrek and Fiona while they are still in their humans forms
That moment would've been more touching if he did it while they were ogres
>We’re not going >What? >I mean, don’t you think they might be a bit shocked to see you like this? >Well, they might be a bit surprised. But they’re my parents, Shrek. They love me. And don’t worry, they're gonna love you too >Yeah, right. Somehow I don’t think I’ll be welcome at the country club >Will you stop it? They’re not like that >(in front of the royal messengers) Then how do you explain Sergeant Pompous and the Fancy Pants Club Band? (the messengers leave, never to be seen again) >Oh, come on. You could at least give them a chance >Oh, to do what? Sharpen their pitchforks? >No! They just want to give you their blessing >Oh, great. Now I need their blessing? >Well if you want to be a part of this family, yes >And who says I want to be part of this family? >Uh, you did? When you married me? >Well, there’s some fine print for you >So that's it? You won't come? >Trust me, it's a bad idea. We're not going and that's final
Shrek is kind of a dick in that scene at the start. He's justified in not wanting to go and he's correct in thinking that it's a bad idea, but he could've discussed it with Fiona in a better way.
In all fairness, he'd spent his whole life up to that point being hunted by humans. Every single one he'd met, Fiona included, were repulsed by him to the point of blind hatred.
Perhaps, he was adverse to meeting the leader of the humans, who was so repulsed by ogres that he locked his own daughter in a tower for ~20 years. The same daughter who he, an ogre, is now married to, the act of which turned the King (famous ogre hater) into an ogre permanently.
You can't fault him for having common sense, even if he's lacking in tact.
What this sequel is missing is the most compelling aspect of the first film : the disconnect between what the characters say they want/feel and what they actually want/feel.
Why was the Fairy Godmother such an awful person? Farquaad was ashamed of his height, disliked living in a world full of fairytale characters (for reasons unexplained), and seemed like a lonely person. What is FG's excuse?
Shrek 4 feels like a fever dream. The intro sequence feels like a shitty video games cut scene. Also I don't think Eddie Murphy was hired onto the film and they just refused dialogue.
>magical woman villain that owns a profitable business with a ton of employees on a large building. She has her own office and a spoiled son without magical abilities (and his father isn't shown or mentioned)
Fairy Godmother feels like a copy of Yubaba from Spirited Away imo. That film premiered in america around the time production of Shrek 2 started.
>Fiona sheds a single tear and then Fairy Godmother suddenly appears in front of her inside a giant bubble
That bit is confusing. Does she do the same with other woman who shed a tear on Far Far Away or only with Fiona?
>october 1998 : Antz >december 1998 : The Prince of Egypt >march 2000 : The Road to El Dorado >june 2000 : Chicken Run >november 2000 : Joseph King of Dreams >may 2001 : Shrek >may 2002 : Spirit Stallion of the Cimarron >july 2003 : Sinbad Legend of the Seven Seas >may 2004 : Shrek 2
This is the first animation film by Dreamworks that was made from start to finish in post 9/11 america.
Adamson wasn't as involved with 2 like he was with 1. Back when 2 was in production, Adamson was also working on the Chronicles of Narnia film (as director, screenwriter and executive producer)
>Shrek 1 : Mike Myers, Eddie Murphy, Cameron Diaz, John Lithgow, Vincent Cassel
>Shrek 2 : Mike Myers, Eddie Murphy, Cameron Diaz, Jennifer Saunders, Antonio Banderas, John Cleese, Rupert Everett, Julie Andrews, Larry King, Joan Rivers
>Shrek 3 : Mike Myers, Eddie Murphy, Cameron Diaz, Justin Timberlake, Antonio Banderas, Rupert Everett, Julie Andrews, John Cleese, Larry King, Eric Idle, John Krasinski, Amy Sedaris, Maya Rudolph, Amy Poehler, Cheri Oteri, Ian McShane
This series got bloated
>Gingerbread Man, Pinocchio, Big Bad Wolf, Blind Mice, Three Pigs, Magic Mirror
Those minor characters are played by staff members (storyboarders, editors)
Better than the first. Greater joke density, more memorable scenes and lines, looks better, more talent behind the mics.
>looks better
Does it? 1 has better lighting on the characters and the humans are less weird looking.
>I posted it again!
Shrek 2 is simply the peak of the series
It looks miles better than the first Shrek
animations are less stiff
shrek 1 was never good
Nah I learned to appreciate it more when you realized DreamWorks grudge with Disney at the time.
I don't buy Fiona's decision at the end. She was born a human and spent all her life with a spell that caused her to become an ogress after sunset, and it was a form which she despised. She could only be a human for half of a day. At the end of first film, the spell is broken and she turns permanently into the ogress (to her dissapointment at first). A few weeks later, at the end of second film, she has the opportunity to be a human again and this time permanently (no ogress for half a day spell like she had for more than 2 decades) and alongside a human Shrek (who made it clear that he was willing to leave his ogre body for her), yet she rejects the opportunity and goes back to being an ogress permanently. I don't buy it.
>"...with the OGRE I married."
Way to miss the point, there.
That line would've been better if she said "with the ogre i fell in love with"
HAES and nontraditional beauty standards, bigot.
It shows 2 things. That interracial relationships dont work. We get 2 ogres or 2 humans. Also that women arent loyal to their heritage and are motivated soley by sex. Thats why the spell turns her full ogre instead of the curse being lifted.
It's because she loves Shrek and she knows he's happier as an ogre. Filtered...
Shrek did seem happy in his new human body in the Changes scene
He enjoyed the novelty of getting mired. But not as much as he enjoyed gargling mud and farting and shit.
BOC > shc
Dude stop saying “ogress”
You wont do shit you frickin OGGER
Very reddit if you to reuse the same jokes over and over again
>has never seen the catalog of any board on this shithole site
What do you think your ebin memes are?
>Harold finally gives his blessing to Shrek and Fiona while they are still in their humans forms
That moment would've been more touching if he did it while they were ogres
What happened to Charming? He tosses the wand to Fairy Godmother and then dissapears. His reaction to his mother's death isn't shown.
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talent scout was occupying his time
The leap in animation quality between Antz and Shrek 1 is bigger than the animation quality between Shrek 1 and Shrek 2.
Chud movie
This throws a lot more at the wall than its predecessors (Antz and Shrek 1), plus the humor density is bigger.
>We’re not going
>What?
>I mean, don’t you think they might be a bit shocked to see you like this?
>Well, they might be a bit surprised. But they’re my parents, Shrek. They love me. And don’t worry, they're gonna love you too
>Yeah, right. Somehow I don’t think I’ll be welcome at the country club
>Will you stop it? They’re not like that
>(in front of the royal messengers) Then how do you explain Sergeant Pompous and the Fancy Pants Club Band? (the messengers leave, never to be seen again)
>Oh, come on. You could at least give them a chance
>Oh, to do what? Sharpen their pitchforks?
>No! They just want to give you their blessing
>Oh, great. Now I need their blessing?
>Well if you want to be a part of this family, yes
>And who says I want to be part of this family?
>Uh, you did? When you married me?
>Well, there’s some fine print for you
>So that's it? You won't come?
>Trust me, it's a bad idea. We're not going and that's final
Shrek is kind of a dick in that scene at the start. He's justified in not wanting to go and he's correct in thinking that it's a bad idea, but he could've discussed it with Fiona in a better way.
In all fairness, he'd spent his whole life up to that point being hunted by humans. Every single one he'd met, Fiona included, were repulsed by him to the point of blind hatred.
Perhaps, he was adverse to meeting the leader of the humans, who was so repulsed by ogres that he locked his own daughter in a tower for ~20 years. The same daughter who he, an ogre, is now married to, the act of which turned the King (famous ogre hater) into an ogre permanently.
You can't fault him for having common sense, even if he's lacking in tact.
*King's daughter, the king was not an ogre, wrong green creature.
yeah his demeanour is quite ogrish, it's very out of character
The bichon frise introduced in 2 doesn't appear again in the rest of the franchise. Dreamworks forgot about it.
Shrek literally crushed this dog to death a the end of 2.
Nope, the dog is shown alive when the characters jump at the end and the screen freezes.
The fact you know the breed of that poofter little shit is great
Didn't Shrek fall on it at the end of 2?
>The fact you know the breed of that poofter little shit is great
it's part of the lyrics in the harried song that fairy godmother sings to fiona
Human Shrek looks like pic rel
Next film by that director is Monsters vs Aliens. You judge if that one was an improvement over Shrek 2.
don't forget the japanese version of the poster
cringe ogress removal
The first Shrek was a genuine parody of fairy tale "disney" movie, the second was a genuine fairy tale movie.
What this sequel is missing is the most compelling aspect of the first film : the disconnect between what the characters say they want/feel and what they actually want/feel.
Shrek 1 is a story that allows for parody
Shrek 2 is a string of pop culture references that allow a story
Why was the Fairy Godmother such an awful person? Farquaad was ashamed of his height, disliked living in a world full of fairytale characters (for reasons unexplained), and seemed like a lonely person. What is FG's excuse?
she's a woman
A woman with magical powers
basically HR in any business ever
>magical powers
All the magic is in her wand and the potions. Without them, all she can do is fly with her wings.
Shrek 4 feels like a fever dream. The intro sequence feels like a shitty video games cut scene. Also I don't think Eddie Murphy was hired onto the film and they just refused dialogue.
I'm German and watched the movies in German back when I was a kid.
I tried watching the originals, but the donkey was simply too black-sounding for me.
I don't think Eddie Murphy speaks German.
>magical woman villain that owns a profitable business with a ton of employees on a large building. She has her own office and a spoiled son without magical abilities (and his father isn't shown or mentioned)
Fairy Godmother feels like a copy of Yubaba from Spirited Away imo. That film premiered in america around the time production of Shrek 2 started.
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Shrek 1 and its not even up for debate
Add it to the list of movies zoomers will never understand
>Fiona sheds a single tear and then Fairy Godmother suddenly appears in front of her inside a giant bubble
That bit is confusing. Does she do the same with other woman who shed a tear on Far Far Away or only with Fiona?
Only for those who can afford her subscription service obviously
>october 1998 : Antz
>december 1998 : The Prince of Egypt
>march 2000 : The Road to El Dorado
>june 2000 : Chicken Run
>november 2000 : Joseph King of Dreams
>may 2001 : Shrek
>may 2002 : Spirit Stallion of the Cimarron
>july 2003 : Sinbad Legend of the Seven Seas
>may 2004 : Shrek 2
This is the first animation film by Dreamworks that was made from start to finish in post 9/11 america.
i miss gag comedy like shrek, mel brooks, monty python, etc.
>Shrek 1 : Andrew Adamson and Victoria Jenson
>Shrek 2 : Conrad Vernon, Kelly Asbury and Andrew Adamson
It's easier to feel more sympathy for 1 because it had a woman among the directors.
Adamson wasn't as involved with 2 like he was with 1. Back when 2 was in production, Adamson was also working on the Chronicles of Narnia film (as director, screenwriter and executive producer)
Victoria Jenson's next credit as director after Shrek 1. It wasn't as well received by critics, to put it gently.
shark tale is shit and will always be shit, while Shrek 2 will be remembered as a classic
Did Puss in Boots 2 give anyone else hope Shrek 5 might be alright?
>Shrek 1 : Mike Myers, Eddie Murphy, Cameron Diaz, John Lithgow, Vincent Cassel
>Shrek 2 : Mike Myers, Eddie Murphy, Cameron Diaz, Jennifer Saunders, Antonio Banderas, John Cleese, Rupert Everett, Julie Andrews, Larry King, Joan Rivers
>Shrek 3 : Mike Myers, Eddie Murphy, Cameron Diaz, Justin Timberlake, Antonio Banderas, Rupert Everett, Julie Andrews, John Cleese, Larry King, Eric Idle, John Krasinski, Amy Sedaris, Maya Rudolph, Amy Poehler, Cheri Oteri, Ian McShane
This series got bloated
>Gingerbread Man, Pinocchio, Big Bad Wolf, Blind Mice, Three Pigs, Magic Mirror
Those minor characters are played by staff members (storyboarders, editors)