>This is now a main Tiny Toons character on the same level as Plucky
So seriously I know this whole thing is going to be permenantly derailed by the incest but pretending it isn't, what's their angle with her? If she was a male character she would probably think she's big and tough but she's small and it's funny, but because she's a female character, she has to think she's badass and actually be pushed by the show as ultra cool and badaas too and I can't see how that won't be unlikable.
I thought she was going to be turned into a villain since, as a disliked character who's character was about attacking and abusing another character, embracing her doucheyness to use her as an antagonist seemed like a logical way to utilize her.
But using her character archetype as a protagonist just doesn't seem like it'll work.
>But using her character archetype as a protagonist just doesn't seem like it'll work.
They have to redo her since she is a HUGE fricking butthole without a single redeeming quality in the original, honestly both Elmyra and Montana Max were way more sympathetic than her, and I mean that unironically. They were given way more sympathetic moments.
She's clearly not going to be a villain at this point and I think her character as a protagonist with some self-deprecation could work or showing her flaws, think of Johnny Bravo. If she's got this tough cool front and bravado but is pathetic that's typical of this kind of comedy.
The thing is though original Tiny Toon Adventures female characters were all really flawed, now, female characters for new cartoons and these reboots have to be incredibly cool and not have any real flaws, and always be right. They must be cooler and way more badass and competent than all the male characters always. That's always been a problem but wasn't a problem for original Tiny Toon Adventures and original Animaniacs, the female characters were even with the male characters in wackiness and flaws. But for the reboot for example Dot has to be the leader, the coolest, always right, and badass and she has to put up with her obnoxious brothers.
How can this play out with Sweetie? She can't have any flaws and has to be just as badass an ultra cool and more competent than anyone as she thinks she is. That's already annoying but if she knows it and it's not undermined how can that not just be obnoxious?
You're correct that it's going to be permanently derailed. As to Sweetie, my guess is that the joke with her is that she'll be the one that things violence is the solution to every problem, and the others have to hold her back. Pesto from Goodpidgeons.
If we're very very good we'll get the stuff with her bullying Furball and some kids will discover funny feelings.
>she'll be the one that things violence is the solution to every problem, and the others have to hold her back. Pesto from Goodpidgeons.
The Pesto angle with her could actually work really well, but I'm concerned that they won't be willing to ever do that with their female characters anymore. Pesto was also a butt monkey. That was true of female characters in og Animaniacs and og Tiny Toons but doesn't seem to be allowed for the reboots female characters, they have to be cool and always right.
I suspect (based on her design) that they'll be okay with her being the over-the-top "we'll solve the problem with fire" one. And occasional buttmonkey because arson can't get you out of class when Bugs Bunny is the teacher.
>I suspect (based on her design) that they'll be okay with her being the over-the-top "we'll solve the problem with fire" one. And occasional buttmonkey because arson can't get you out of class when Bugs Bunny is the teacher.
I hope so I'll reserve actual judgement to be fair until I see it. Just wondering. Yes it could definitely work if they do it right.
Seriously, I don't get it. Nobody fricking liked her.
Just because Sweetie bird is being pitched as a "Main" character of the original loony toons doesn't mean it'll work with her.
A couple, which boiled down generally to "Furball is sleeping or minding his own business. She brutally (And I Mean BRUTALLY) begins physically abusing him.
Like, you weren't even supposed to root for her, as a couple of the episodes had her lose in the end (like Arnold starting to chase her instead, who she couldn't really bully)
Why is everyone thinking she's going to act exactly like she did in the original show?
If the bunnies are twins literally everything is up for grabs for changing, and that means her personality is changing for sure.
She might be "punk" but she won't be a c**t
>Why is everyone thinking she's going to act exactly like she did in the original show?
Because that's her only schtick, slapstick with furball: She has nothing else to go on as that's sweetie's only real thing too.
Again, that was her only schtick in the original show. This is nothing like that show. That isn't going to be how she is if nothing is similar to the days of old, we only know so little and already every single aspect is different
Tiny Toon was one of the series that got away with girl characters being imperfect and interesting to watch to start with [Babs' lack of self-control, Elmyra being a sociopath, Shirley being disinterested and in her own head] so it wouldn't be a stretch to think they could make Sweety a fun main character in her own right without leaning on what we assume to be 'muh girl power'. But it's easy to frick up and we've seen a lot of that kind of archetype before when trying to round out the gender balance of shows
Anon, Shirley struggles to be the third wheel in fanarts after all this time and is buried under constant avalanche of art by her show's peers. Tina from LTS is in the same boat while Lola has several sources to pull from. You really think someone as obscure as Melissa, at least the version from a one-off short, has any hope at all of garnering artists' attention? Protip, birds' beaks mean artists can't slap ears on an otherwise normal head to churn out pieces for the masses. This is the fate of all avian characters. You got to commission or DIY. I'd say be the change you want to see, but that's only ever spouted by people who don't realize how good they have it.
Babs and Fifi had appealing designs, sorry that ducks just aren't as nice looking.
Also, Babs was funny, Fifi was sexy, Shirley was the gross valley girl spiritual type.
Ruby Rat gets thrown in alot of TTA fanart in place of her, because despite being a side character, has a better design and is the cool "smoking" girl.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Frick you dude Shirley was awesome. I like those other characters too though. The only TTA girls who are shit are Elmyra and Sweetie.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sweetie is just a midget girl Chris Farley
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Shirley was the gross valley girl spiritual type.
homosexual
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Shirley was the gross valley girl spiritual type.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Shirley was the gross valley girl spiritual type.
Shirley the type a chick to get buck nekkid and do hot yoga at Rebecca Sugar's lesbo flower orgy cult and these anons are too coward to accept it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>midsommar but with Shirley and the swans
Yeah I dig it
2 years ago
Anonymous
This is truth. Shirley worst girl, Shirley fans can seethe.
>Shirley was the gross valley girl spiritual type.
homosexual
Shirley gets nice art sometimes but how can a beak suck a dick?
Shirley isn't terrible, probably B tier but next to the S tier that Babs and Fifi Shirley is a dud. Rubella Rat is indeed A tier because smoking delinquent girls are sexy in their own way.
Shirley would have been greatly improved by having more scenes where she showed her seductive side, than playing so hard to get with Plucky.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's not our fault you're basic and can't appreciate hot ducks (frick off with the species discourse) like Shirley, anon.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Well I think Daisy Duck from Quack Pack is A tier
So graceful
Same goes for these swan bawds.
But yeah, I still very much prefer Babs and Fifi.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>S tier that are Babs and Fifi, Shirley is a dud*
2 years ago
Anonymous
>sorry that ducks just aren't as nice looking
There's nothing wrong with being a duck. Donald, Daffy and Scrooge are some of the most famous cartoon characters ever.
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Shirley and Fifi were never main characters, it was always just the main four.
It's just they were the most notable side characters and get talked about so often you would think they were main characters
Fifi and Shirley were always side characters. Thirsty fans and shipping would have you forget.
Sweetie...who everyone hated in the original show, all the female characters were flawed and often dislikable which was great but Sweetie had no redeeming bits and just wasn't a great character in general...
I swear that the only reason she got bumped to main instead of Fifi and Shirley is her Tweety Bird connection. They'll have to totally redo her whole character anyway. They could have done the same with Shirley and Fifi, but nobody knows or cares who Melissa Duck is and they're trying not to use Pepe le Pew much. Lack of marketable Looney Tunes tie in mentor is what prevented Fifi and Shirley from getting promoted to main.
>Lack of marketable Looney Tunes tie in mentor is what prevented Fifi and Shirley from getting promoted to main.
Right, there's supposed to be a new Sylvester and Tweety cartoon coming out. I guess Sweetie will be part of the promotion.
why the FRICK, she'd fit in with today's youth than she did in the fricking 90s
Shirley and Fifi were never main characters, it was always just the main four.
It's just they were the most notable side characters and get talked about so often you would think they were main characters
If they are moving Sweetie up to main it kinda makes sense those two aren't going to be used as much, since her and Babs will be used a lot as the two female friends in the overall friend group
The main cast were Babs, Buster, Plucky, Fifi and Shirley. Most episodes revolved around them. Especially since Buster and Babs were the leads and those were their best friends.
>Fifi had multiple shorts >and had a huge role in Summer Vacation
She obviously wasn't just a background character.
....I never noticed how Babs' background eye color was white while the other two are tinted blue. Why is this? And why was Babs given actual pupils with color and like, no one else?
>while the other two are tinted blue. Why is this?
Probably so their eyes stand out from their white fur/feathers on their faces.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Good point.
I hope the reboot avoids giving them pure white eyes and off white body areas like in Animaniacs, where it looks like Warners stepped out of the water tower after smoking for 30 years.
ehhh i don't see it, you need more to hook an autismo crowd dedicated like the bronies again. MLP had the same OC potential like Sonic which played a big part of the whole thing.
you morons need to stop thinking like this. MLP was its own thing and there wont be anything to rival or equal to it to be making this ridiculous comparison shit. frick MLP and frick you dummies who think every new show will be the "next MLP"
I still feel bad for the fans of MLP who were with them since the beginning and the little girls and their parents who had to deal with the super autismo of Bronies.
you morons need to stop thinking like this. MLP was its own thing and there wont be anything to rival or equal to it to be making this ridiculous comparison shit. frick MLP and frick you dummies who think every new show will be the "next MLP"
This will be the Furry show of 2020s
The horse replacement
is there anything right now that the new MLP anyway? Haven't really noticed a show that has had the same traction they got .
Nah, that show was such a lightning in the bottle, came out at the right time, amassed a crazy huge fandom complete with its own cons, and then it all went away...like tears in the rain
you morons need to stop thinking like this. MLP was its own thing and there wont be anything to rival or equal to it to be making this ridiculous comparison shit. frick MLP and frick you dummies who think every new show will be the "next MLP"
Better comparison is Zootopia
It will be the next Zootopia, but only if they actually commit to the whole college thing and not just them still being 13
I don't think you're taking to account that the Warners were the only characters and are insanely niche for lewds, while the Tiny Toons characters have significantly more widespread appeal
AND Fifi is also in
It doesn't really matter how many characters you have or not if you don't know how to write for them. They're already changing the dynamics of the characters so it's not a vote of confidence that they will be written well. The Animaniacs reboot took a dive from not having the supporting cast, sure, but it wasn't the main reason the show sucked. The main reason the show sucked is because they ghosted the original writing crue, you know, the people that made the fricking show in the first place. And they're making the same mistake again with Tiny Toons. Get ready for more stale political jokes and "Babs get ipad" levels of modern "humor"
>It doesn't really matter how many characters you have or not if you don't know how to write for them
Sure it does
Star Vs and Steven Universe still get hundreds of new porn images a day despite having the worst series finale of all time for Star and both being actual horseshit. Only because there was a lot of characters people wanted to coom to >But this is different they ruined established characters!
So did She-ra, which also got thousands of porn images
Anon, the amount of porn a show gets is not variably equal to the quality or even popularity of the show. One-off characters from obscure shows get porn all the time. The conparsion being made was that this will be the new horse show. Yes, the horse show had and still gets a metric frickton of porn, but that is not the only reason it was as popular as it was. It was able to capture a massive demographic outside of its target and garner a whole subsection of the furry fandom. Tiny Toons is not going to reinvent the wheel. It's going to be a splash in the pan of low quality nostalgia bait shows and nothing more
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Anon, the amount of porn a show gets is not variably equal to the quality or even popularity of the show
Yes, but that wasn't the argument being discussed here. It was about there being no porn because it won't be a good show >The conparsion being made was that this will be the new horse show
No show will ever be the new horse show for a variety of factors
2 years ago
Anonymous
>that wasn't the argument being discussed here
Are you fricking stupid or something? My original reply was to the claim that it would be the horse show replacement. Neither the original post nor my reply mentioned porn, you fricking troglodyte
you morons need to stop thinking like this. MLP was its own thing and there wont be anything to rival or equal to it to be making this ridiculous comparison shit. frick MLP and frick you dummies who think every new show will be the "next MLP"
I still can't get over how Babs and Buster were just CONFIRMED to really be twin brother and sister now because holy fricking shit. All the romance in the og series and 3 decades' worth, just tons of fanfictiion fan art and porn is now retroactively incest. Good job, reboot.
Lots of reboots treat themselves as continuations of the original series >Biker Mice from Mars >PPG 2016 >Animaniacs 2020 >The Proud Family: Louder and Prouder >Masters of the Universe: Revelation >MLP: A New Generation
Lots of reboots treat themselves as continuations of the original series >Biker Mice from Mars >PPG 2016 >Animaniacs 2020 >The Proud Family: Louder and Prouder >Masters of the Universe: Revelation >MLP: A New Generation
That's just off the top of my head.
Also in the public conscious most reboots replace the original, especially if they are good and often considered the MAIN continuity now.
People still holding onto this notion that reboots are completely disconnected from the OG is massive cope. Most companies treat them as a replacement.
I'd argue that OG He-Man will stay the one in the public consciousness. Smith's show got attention, but it's basically just "for big boys" continuation of the original and unlikely to supplant it. The CGI show just never got the audience to replace the original.
She-Ra though, yeah. That property's been fundamentally changed by the recent show.
Gotta check new He-man I guess, but he was rebooted before and they did go back to original
2 years ago
Anonymous
>She-Ra is already forgotten
Catra is literally trending on twitter right now.
I'd kill to have more shows I love get "forgotten" like that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
No she isn't
Trending for (you) isn't really trending
2 years ago
Anonymous
You are a very tiresome individual.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Also her thread here is being kept alive via a pathetic comic bump
No popularity left
2 years ago
Anonymous
You are a very stupid homosexual that should get the Hell out of here.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The sad thing is, this is the end result for this series.
She-ra was scorned when it was first shown and teased for changing everything. And all of that is forgotten now because they brought the lesbians in at the end. And years later and these people can't let this show go.
And that's what will happen here. All of this siblings drama will be forgotten by the Twitter people crying over it now when Babs is dating some female and it will be praised as the goat reboot
No, it was each other. Their Animaniacs cameo in the Noah's Arc episode made that even more clear. But the jokes was always that they were both "Bunny" but they just shared the same last name but were not related.
They also dated and lived in different houses and clearly weren't related otherwise anyway.
>Concept image with Buster and Plucky pushing each other >Other concept image where Plucky really is posing like a gay theater kid
It's going to be them, I wasn't totally sure about it but this news is making it obvious
And it's going to be mega-popular with how much people online go insane over Baffy
>Concept image with Buster and Plucky pushing each other >Other concept image where Plucky really is posing like a gay theater kid
It's going to be them, I wasn't totally sure about it but this news is making it obvious
And it's going to be mega-popular with how much people online go insane over Baffy
I love Baffy but as a Plucky/Hampton and Babs/Fifi shipper from the og show. Close but no cigar
Buster and Babs introducing themselves and bluntly stating “No relation.” Was a running gag in the original. How do they even come to the conclusion that this is ok?
How do you just...shit over the basic mechanics of the original show? What in the frick is there to gain here by changing the status quo? Nothing. This will just inrage people. It's amazing to me how some remakes give so little respect to the original characters and dynamics of those characters.
Because if there's no outrage there's no viewership or discussion
Three Caballeros did the best straightfoward reboot of the characters in years. It was buried hard and only people here discussed it. Reboots that handled the material terribly like She-ra got way more response
>did it work for Bart and Lisa? >did it work for Dipper and Mabel? >did it work for Ben and Gwen? >did it work for The Loud House? >did it work for Deedee and Dexter? >did it work for The Powerpuff Girls? >did it work for The Animaniacs >did it work for Arthur and D.W?
It's just going to make the lewds hotter.
casually uprooting one of the most iconic running gags of the original show paints clearly how the rest of the reboot will be treated. It's not over reacting at all.
>everyone knew from the beginning was going to be shit
Not normalgays. They liked the Animaniacs reboot and were excited for this. Which is why there's a freak out from them now.
It's like rebooting Looney Tunes and having Lola and Bunny be related. It's just a weird writing decision. The only thing I can imagine is they want to do more "home life" setups, similar to how NuManiacs focused A LOT on the trio's life inside the water tower, and in order to do that, they wanted Babs and Buster to be related so they had an excuse to have them fight over the bathroom in the morning or whatever.
>It's like rebooting Looney Tunes and having Lola and Bunny be related
Logically Loonatics kinda did that since Ace and Lexi should both be descended from Bugs and Lola. People also pointed out how weird that was back in the day
Loonatics is ambiguous, though. Some characters were plainly stated to be descended from others (mainly season 2 villains), but the Loonatics themselves weren't. I think some marketing might've said they were descendants (either before or after they pivoted away from Buzz Bunny) but it's never mentioned in the show and everyone came from different walks of life, so if Ace and Lexi were related it'd probably be distantly.
Loonatics is ambiguous, though. Some characters were plainly stated to be descended from others (mainly season 2 villains), but the Loonatics themselves weren't. I think some marketing might've said they were descendants (either before or after they pivoted away from Buzz Bunny) but it's never mentioned in the show and everyone came from different walks of life, so if Ace and Lexi were related it'd probably be distantly.
If you think about it the controversy over that is stupid because they are 1000 years away from their ancestors and there's no way they'd know about that "incest" and how negligible it would be
What's confusing me is the leaked art (which was mostly accurate for the designs of Sweetie, Hamton, etc) shows Buster and Plucky in a dorm. If they are in some college setting they are going to be in dorms, and there has never been a time where opposite genders would share said dorms. So that takes out Buster and Babs living together and acting like siblings that way
They’re in a fricking college. With dorms. Just make it a shared dorm and you could have the original main 6, Sweetie, and a 4th boy all living in the same building.
I actually wonder who Hamton is going to room with >Buster and Plucky was in the concept art >Babs almost definitely is going to be with Sweetie
Will Hamton be with another guy, with Buster/Plucky or by himself?
Wasn't there a midget bird that swore all the time and all the dialog had to be censored? Tiny rooster dude with a leather jacket?
Am I high or was that not a thing?
Most of the show was just not good at all. Majority of it was just really badly ripoffs of various Chuck Jones shorts, or just reusing a lot of the visual gags from them. The only thing I ever thought was any good from Tiny toons was the movie.
It wasn't good, but it had its moments. I agree that the movie was the best thing from it. It was good for what it was.
The one really brilliant bit of Tiny Toons was actually the banned episode, One Beer. Most people don't seem to get the extremely bitter sarcasm of the writers being forced to make it. The whole episode is savagely mocking moralizing PSAs and the idea that it'd even matter if a kid had just a sip of beer. I think that's why it was banned, the sarcasm.
>Most people don't seem to get the extremely bitter sarcasm of the writers being forced to make it. The whole episode is savagely mocking moralizing PSAs
That was sort of a thing in the 90s, mocking the PSAs of the 80s. But that was also a big part of everything 90s had to be cool and rebellious at all times and constantly pretending to deride authority. It was also why they had the Wheel of Morality in Animaniacs. Eek! the Cat made fun of them constantly, so did Garfield and Friends.
Kind of like how people were nostalgic for Animaniacs when most of the sketches sucked and it was mostly just waiting for Pinky and the Brain, Good Idea/Bad Idea, and Wheel of Morality.
I find it funny they only did two Katie Kaboom sketches because it was an awful one note joke, but then did dozens of Goodfeathers and Chicken Boo sketches which were also awful one note jokes.
But yes after the first season Animaniacs really went downhill. But there were good moments even in the bad segments in the first season. The Rita and Runt Les Miserables skit and Goodfeathers West Side Story parodies were fun and Chicken Boo was funny once or twice.
I liked Goodfeathers and how it made fun of mafia movies. Slappy was great and things like Mime Time and Chicken boo were usually pretty good.
For me it was Rita and Runt, Hip Hippos (Except the Richard Lewis Noah one) Buttons and Mindy, Minerva Mink, and the historical stuff with the flame that I hated.
I do remember how Calamity and Beeper barely ever appeared at all despite how many Roardunner cartoons were made in the 60s. I imagine Tom Ruger never liked them or really could not fit two mute characters into Tiny Toons well enough. But Sweetie makes some sense considering how many Tweety and Sylvester shorts were made. The ABC Looney tunes show was the Bugs and Tweety show for something like 30 years.
>I imagine Tom Ruger never liked them or really could not fit two mute characters into Tiny Toons well enough.
That and there was already a mute character that got beat up and blown up at all times in Furball. Calamity was just more of the exact same joke and it was not needed. Plus most kids were not huge fans of Roadrunner sketches since they were so simplistic and nothing but Wile e falling down over and over again. Furball could do more and interact with more characters like Elmyra and Arnold.
I do remember how Calamity and Beeper barely ever appeared at all despite how many Roardunner cartoons were made in the 60s. I imagine Tom Ruger never liked them or really could not fit two mute characters into Tiny Toons well enough. But Sweetie makes some sense considering how many Tweety and Sylvester shorts were made. The ABC Looney tunes show was the Bugs and Tweety show for something like 30 years.
>I imagine Tom Ruger never liked them or really could not fit two mute characters into Tiny Toons well enough.
That and there was already a mute character that got beat up and blown up at all times in Furball. Calamity was just more of the exact same joke and it was not needed. Plus most kids were not huge fans of Roadrunner sketches since they were so simplistic and nothing but Wile e falling down over and over again. Furball could do more and interact with more characters like Elmyra and Arnold.
It's because Chuck Jones was super-pissed about Calamity and Beeper existing, for some reason.
>We had younger versions of other classic characters...Barky Marky was our junior version of Marc Anthony, and as you mentioned, he made it into very few cartoons. Chuck Jones was not particularly enthusiastic for us to use too much of the characters he felt that he had created. So there was never a lot of Little Beeper and Calamity, or Barky. We felt more justified using Fifi, since she was a girl character, as opposed to Pepe.
http://platypuscomix.com/people/ruegger2.html
>Chuck Jones was not particularly enthusiastic for us to use too much of the characters he felt that he had created.
That's a light way of putting it, he allegedly called Tiny Toons his "moronic stepchildren."
>We had younger versions of other classic characters...Barky Marky was our junior version of Marc Anthony, and as you mentioned, he made it into very few cartoons. Chuck Jones was not particularly enthusiastic for us to use too much of the characters he felt that he had created. So there was never a lot of Little Beeper and Calamity, or Barky. We felt more justified using Fifi, since she was a girl character, as opposed to Pepe.
http://platypuscomix.com/people/ruegger2.html
To be fair, when Chuck Jones liked anything? I can see why he was angry with Tiny Toons but Chuck Jones hated everything
Wrong, Chuck Jokes like Beauty and the beast, Aladdin and Ren & Stimpy, he also hated his own short "the dot and the line".
>We had younger versions of other classic characters...Barky Marky was our junior version of Marc Anthony, and as you mentioned, he made it into very few cartoons. Chuck Jones was not particularly enthusiastic for us to use too much of the characters he felt that he had created. So there was never a lot of Little Beeper and Calamity, or Barky. We felt more justified using Fifi, since she was a girl character, as opposed to Pepe.
http://platypuscomix.com/people/ruegger2.html
In the Tiny Toons DVD's extras they have one female writer going "some think our cartoons can't compete with the original shorts but I think they are wrong" and then right after that it cuts to a male writer saying "There's no way for Tiny Toons to compete with the masterpieces they had in the original Looney Tunes shorts of course, no way at all"
Ehh, Sweetie was definitely one of the second tier characters that got a lot more screen time than most. Especially in the second season. It's not that surprising that she gets a main character level billing. Especially when Tweetie was considered one of the main Looney Tunes
The main 4 might have been Buster, Babs, Hampton, and Plucky, with Montana being the constant antagonist. But Sweetie, Fifi, and Elmyra were the nest step down that still got lots of screen time. Sweetie getting more than Fifi or Shirley.
Just something interesting I noted
Erin Gibson talks about gay issues and associates with gays, but I cannot find any proof she actually is gay herself. She has married guys before and she has never openly mentioned she's attracted to the same gender.
So if this show is really going to be Gibson's self-insert and she's Babs then Babs is not the gay one, it's going to be her "brother"
>The show by the creator of fricking "Gay of Thrones" just shot down the main ship of the series by making them blood related
Anon, there's no paranoia here.
I don't see what them being siblings has to do with anybody being gay. Even if there are gay characters or couples now, I don't care what anybody says, you didn't have to make them siblings for that. It would take 30 seconds to say that they're just friends and aren't interested in each other in that way in the reboot. Some people might be frustrated but not as much as shippers will be now that their ship is incest, none of that makes any goddamn sense at all.
I can try to find it on the tiny toons wiki. I just remember Bugs was going through his wallet or something, and there's a picture of a blue rabbit girl in a bikini with an xoxo over it, and he hides it.
I searched the transcripts of every episode.
Bugs only pulls his wallet out in one episode, which does involve a credit card, but there aren't any photos.
That anon is probably getting it confused with something else, or just lying.
Could be mashing two memories. I'll dig through the tiny toons wiki.
Just because a show's revived and a dynamic changes doesn't mean everyone's going to be gay, Cinemaphile. Beavis and Butt-Head are apparently brothers now, and they're not gay for Stuart.
I searched the transcripts of every episode.
Bugs only pulls his wallet out in one episode, which does involve a credit card, but there aren't any photos.
That anon is probably getting it confused with something else, or just lying.
uhm anon they are both ducks. shirley is clearly a duck and so is plucky. I think you are referring to different BREEDS not SPECIES you retared mongloid frickstick. different species would be a duck and a pig or a rabbit and a bear. different breeds of the same species can be related.
>uhm anon they are both ducks. shirley is clearly a duck and so is plucky. I think you are referring to different BREEDS not SPECIES
Duck is a common name for a bunch of different species(not just breeds) within the Waterfowl(Anseriformes) order. Some ducks are closer relatives of geese and swans than other ducks, and are occasionally dismissed from the category "true ducks".
Second, Loons are not even closely related to ducks, they are far closer to penguins and even flamingoes.
Have some Sweetie bullying Furrball, Nagatoro style.
If that's a thing in the show, I might forgive the twincest. Maybe.
I'd picture her as the sort that relentlessly "bullies" him without causing anything more than discomfort and embarrassment, but then she finds out someone actually hurt him and Deals With 'Em Permanently. In a funny way, like marooning them on Mars or an island about to be used for nuclear testing, but yeah.
It looks fun and good otherwise, just this one choice is so stupid and pointless. Gives it a weird feeling for absolutely no reason. It doesn't ruin it, though.
Hate to say it but take a page from Ducktales 17 and embrace it. Donald and his sister bunking together or Webby and HDL being related through cloning bullshit made shipping way more fun.
Thank you. Thank you for drawing what I was going to request if I had caught you elsewhere, which was their reaction to the news.
How do you feel about it personally?
Only if the @#%$@ ^%@#@$s running this $@$@% show want to $!@#!$ ruin it by not !$@!$!@ bringing back the $@!#!@# best $%@^%@#$^@ character in the $!@#@!# original.
Do we know anything about her personality? I assume just based on looks alone, they're going for the "really comically tough tiny character". Like, she's going to act like a bar biker that likes to pick fights and kick the shit out of scared little Furrball despite being a tiny, high-pitched bird. So basically, Chickenhawk.
It's guaranteed to make them no longer eligible to love each other. A boy and a girl of the same species, in love? Not nearly progressive enough. Media has to bombard kids with confusing messages to stop them from growing up into breeders.
Honestly, this would make the show way more interesting than it has any right to be. They've been romantically involved for over thirty years... and then discover they're brother and sister? That would be some heavy shit for a kids show.
>That would be some heavy shit for a kids show.
If it's handled like a discovery and not just a retcon, maybe. But I bet it's a retcon. They'll just pretend it's how it's always been. But ships aren't interesting, so I'll disagree on the "interesting" part.
So this is a reboot, right? I thought it was a sequel but making Babs and Buster brother and sister is so off-kilter that they couldn't possibly justify it in canon.
she does go on a rant about how prom is sexist in the original, but it's obviously played for laughs since she immediately agrees to go with Hamton right after. They'll make it unironic now
He's just doing art, poor bastard. And his art's good! Really good!
But the writers are cowards on top of being incompetent, so it fell to him to go "yeah, you heard right." Based Lentendo deserves to work on a better show.
You just know that the only reason they made Buster and Babs brother and sister on this series is to make Babs a lesbian, just for FRICKS sake don't ship her as that stupid bird, literally ship her with any girl but that bird., also what the frick did they mean with "Yeah, Sweetie is a main character this time! we are finally getting the Sweetie we deserve"??
You just know that the only reason they made Buster and Babs brother and sister on this series is to make Babs a lesbian, just for FRICKS sake don't ship her as that stupid bird, literally ship her with any girl but that bird., also what the frick did they mean with "Yeah, Sweetie is a main character this time! we are finally getting the Sweetie we deserve"??
https://i.imgur.com/JKphYuS.png
>This is now a main Tiny Toons character on the same level as Plucky
These people need to be pelted with rocks and hanged.
None of them are showrunners, the twos showrunners don't have twitter and have a private twitter.
This was just some artist who doesn't make show decisions and was being blunt because they already spilled it out anyway and they couldn't hide it forever.
Wonder why though, I really doubt they have insiders telling them elsewise since they never report on that stuff
Maybe it was getting too hostile and negative?
It was just him and that's all that was needed. He's the character design supervisor, he's not going to be wrong or mistaken. They likely got tired of the flood of negativity.
I almost wonder if WB asked them to because of the huge negative reaction. But they might as well get it over with now. Obviously people will know eventually!
You're right that it's better to get it out months before this thing comes out, ripping the band aid off now so we know what to expect and giving the slightest chance to change it.
Because even if they change it, we know the bunnies would never be dating in this and know it's very likely they are going to be dating someone else of the same gender. Nothing will be as shocking as this move so we just get it over with early and some people who don't want to pay attention don't need to. Far better then finding out like 3 days before the show aired
I literally don't think there's any connection between this choice and maybe making one or both gay, maybe they did or didn't but this has nothing to do with it. I think they see Gravity Falls, Frozen, Ducktales and felt siblings would give the series some new marketable quality or family angle they wanted for storytelling.
They seem to be wanting to do arcs and development but thats not in keeping with the original. I think wanting that new direction is fine but they should have just made them friends and the same arcs are just childhood friends arcs, it just takes a tiny amount of creativity. It doesn't have to be literal family.
I'm not really a fan of romance in my shows myself, but someone must have really HATED the Buster/Babs ship to pull this. Babs especially could be CRAZY HORNY for Buster at some parts, and there's no vagueness about it. To just toss that to the side really screams of butthurt to me
Cartoon Crave likely deleted their tweet because they stupidly @ Lentendo's account in the tweet and it was blowing up, so dude was getting even more unwanted attention. CC probably realized and deleted.
There's a LOT of people who hated the ship because they think Babs was way too good for someone like Buster
The girl who made the initial concept art hated the ship and openly stated as such on Twitter. It should have been obvious to us...
>"Babs Bunny" >cut to her getting pounded by Buster >"Buster Bunny" >zoom in on his shaft sliding in and out of Babs >"Relation," they say in unison >close up shot of their making out while fuzzy blue testicles are drained into pink pussy lips her legs wrapped around his hips >pan out view of family photos of them
Reboot's gonna be great
Calling it now I've been thinking this for months, this show is going to be a meta Looney Tunes Back in Action/ Who Framed Roger Rabbit take on Tiny Toons. Original show was just the characters acting scripts and looniversity is going to be the characters learning how to do what they execute in the original, they take place during the same time. Buster + Babs dating is going to be retconned as "They've always been twins, they were just playing the roles of a couple in the original". Evidence to support the general idea of this is the tv in the poster not being a flatscreen, its a box tv and vcr (literally looks like something out of the 90s), the original show having so many references to scripts/censors/ and other meta aspects, the characters not looking like they've been aged up at all, the weird way the staff has been referring to whether or not this show and the original are connected, etc. The original is "Tiny Toon(s): Adventures" this is "Tiny Toons: Looniversity" its a school "coming of age" sitcom about these characters learning how to be cartoon characters while they act in their own cartoon in the 90s show. Discourse about b+b not dating is going to be literally irrelevant in the reboot and will only be used to make ironic jokes about the old "No relation" catchphrase.
That's dumb but I don't mind if they do that, but they still don't need to make them siblings to do that.
Also I'm not saying it's "wrong" but twin siblings playing a romantic couple that actually kiss and make out in a show within a show is still fricking weird as frick. The other way around, actors who play siblings or other relatives dating, on the other hand, actually happens all the time and makes total sense. They meet through work and it doesn't matter what their roles relationship is. The original series being base reality is less gross then.
Seen several people have theorized them doing the "acting out the 90s cartoon as part of their studies" or something similar since "meta" is all the rage now
The main issue is that it makes the whole siblings thing worse, because this would mean as part of their "studies" the adults of the Looniversity are making two twins act out as boyfriend and girlfriend and kiss each other on the lips and flirt. It really would come off as professors sexually exploiting the two rabbits
"Theorized" that is, you're just making up a scenario out of whole cloth based on your own fears and then getting mad about it.
Not really
One thing I do think you're on though is how there hasn't been one instance of them having phones or anything being seen as "modern" in any of the concept images, only that 90s tv in the one image. Which you'd expect 12 phones to be shown by now for a "modern" take. Straight up didn't notice it until now but this might very well be set in the 90s and hasn't been specified
Leaked concept art of Plucky shows him using a smartphone.
Nothing from that concept piece made it out, and it appears the show was heavily retooled from that point so I really need to see a new image to be sure it's modern day (even though it very likely is going to be)
2 years ago
Anonymous
He's wearing the same shirt and has the same expression he has in the promo images.
No, you moron. Nobody got mad over that, they are simply pointing how stupid it would be if they tried to justify the original Babs & Buster as "just an act". If anything, the idiot getting angry at imaginary situations is you.
Not really
One thing I do think you're on though is how there hasn't been one instance of them having phones or anything being seen as "modern" in any of the concept images, only that 90s tv in the one image. Which you'd expect 12 phones to be shown by now for a "modern" take. Straight up didn't notice it until now but this might very well be set in the 90s and hasn't been specified
>"They've always been twins, they were just playing the roles of a couple in the original"
Who the frick would be so loony to make them do that? Bugs? >OK Buster now kiss your sister passionately and remember to use tongue! Boy aren't I a stinker?
>>OK Buster now kiss your sister passionately and remember to use tongue! Boy aren't I a stinker?
To be fair that is in character for Bugs. And really funny to think about Bugs Bunny making twin siblings kiss to pass a class. Almost like he's an...ammoral trickster archetype.
>I so want the fanfic where Bugs makes the twin siblings kiss on camera or will fail them
This is the only thing out of this whole spitballing I want because it's fricking hilarious and actually in-character for trickster Bugs not this nicey-nicey shit, he would totally do that just because it's funny "Ain't I a stinker?"
Bugs only used tricks against people who were out to get him and only resorted to "playing dirty" because he was a weak little rabbit who was dealing with stronger foes, the only exception was for the final gag in Duck Amuck. Him going out of his way to harass some children is not in character, you creep.
Tiny Toons already flip flopped between the setting being a real place and the setting being a location their for their show, which they were only actors for. The series mostly treated things as if it were the former, but it got plenty meta pretty often. To do what you're saying, they'd have to recon the meta of the old show and replace it with the new meta and at that point, shit's just ridiculous.
>Buster + Babs dating is going to be retconned as "They've always been twins, they were just playing the roles of a couple in the original".
You don't think that sounds all gross and weird, too? There's seriously NO salvaging this new twin angle.
Yes this, I wish and hope that they take it out though that would probably be hard. Just make them childhood platonic friend who are roommates now FRICKING hell it'd be just fine, fricking seriously.
Everything you want to do with them as twin siblings can be done with them as just really close but platonic friends since they're little kids.
>but no romance would be unbelievable lol
You're fricking delusional if you don't think that Babs/Buster shippers (unless they're into twincest specifically) wouldn't prefer some shit like that that only 2% of fans will give a shit about or have a problem with vs making their ship siblings now despite being a canon couple before for frick's sakew. No it's not ideal but it's 5 trillion times better than this so frick off.
They could have easily had them be a former couple who are now friends on good terms, if they wanted this angle so badly. Just make them like "oh yeah hehe that was embarrassing"
Different anon here. The funny thing is I don't remember much about TT adventures, but I do remember that I liked the humor (despite never getting into Animaniacs) and the animation. I remember also liking all the silly lovey-dovey stuff, so this is a weird change to me.
Personally, I always thought TTA was the better show. Both used references and meta humor but in TTA there was something else going on besides that while in Animaniacs it was usually the entire point. Also TTA always makes it clear it's set in the 90s and asks the viewer to consider that while it feels like Animaniacs never worried about it out of arrogance.
>Go to work >Some poor tech girl got fired >She was in charge of cleaning down our machines at the end of the shift yesterday, and didn't bother wiping down the ones that never even got used, because she needed to rush home to her sick mom >Saying "yeah, they're still clean" without giving a daily dusting is a firing offense apparently >Meanwhile in Hollywood you can frick up this badly and face no consequences
4 different iterations?
Bad boxart megaman isn't a real iteration, its a joke.
Second, Trigger isn't megaman (he's a dude untold hundreds if not thousands of years later, and roll is just coincidentally named roll), and Exe. is a different universe.
>Trigger isn't megaman (he's a dude untold hundreds if not thousands of years later, and roll is just coincidentally named roll)
There could easily be a connection between X and the Purifier Unit called Trigger who was reborn into Volnutt. Besides, what is even the criteria for "being a Megaman?" It's not exactly an authentic title in the games. Just the game title.
>Besides, what is even the criteria for "being a Megaman?" It's not exactly an authentic title in the games.
In ZX they started using "megaman/megamen" as an actual title, which was pure cringe.
If you were able to use a bio-metal (via the M.E.G.A system)
>no one batted an eye at that?
I did, but I also know Japan often has a weird thing with incest in its media, too, if there's "no blood relation", despite how the characters may have been raised together.
Yes Japan has canon incest couples, especially cousins will date and marry but anime is more likely to even have romantic siblings, this is a really horrible example. I remember kids' show Card Captor Sakura has canon cousin couples and shows like Utena that aren't for that old of an audience canonically have several sibling couple including one that is confirmed to have sex with only the most explicit parts actually censored but otherwise the sibling sex is obliquely shown onscreen.
All the cousin couples in CCS are unrequited actually. Though nobody bat's an eye as it seems in CCS "love is love" be it between two guys, two cousins or a male teacher and his 10 year old female student. Except lesbians, lesbians get shit
And it's really a Bad example, they are the same characters but the series are so vastly different from the Main one
It's been a while but I don't remember any romantic tease between Trigger and Roll un legends, and in the game we're they do end "Married and having a child", they are both computer programs in a series vastly diferent from the original, with designs also different from the Main series, wild things like Megaman being the deceased twin of the main character... yeah that was diferent enough to be it's own thing as to not raise too many eyebrows with it's RockxRoll ship, unlike the Tiny Toons reboot
Second game they ramp it up with a bit of a love triangle teasing between the three, with Tronne trying to drive a wedge between the two of them for romantic reasons and it being clear she has some feelings for him.
Three of those are basically "friends" and maybe I'm not an expert in Megaman lore but aren't they robots? They can't ever be blood related like they did here
The only ones out of them in a "family" is Classic and Legends. Light built Rock and Roll and he sees them as his kids and they see him as a dad. In Legends, Roll's grandfather find Mega while on a dig and adopts him. The top right image in that post is Megaman.exe and Roll.exe, two characters from an entirely different universe in the Megaman franchise, they absolutely have NO familiar connection to each other in anyway and even have a kid made from their data.
That’s because Megaman runs under Multiverse rules so it’s easy to accept each is different: >top left they are robots built by Dr Light, Roll to be a housemaid and Rock to hunt robot masters >top right they are computer programs who are paired up with humans in the real world like a Digimon/Pokemon deal >bottom left, Roll is human and Volnutt is some weird ancient robot who can also age like a human >bottom right is literally a parody version where he’s human
That shit doesn’t fly here because the reboot just seems to be a time skip, not a different dimension with rule changes
>That shit doesn’t fly here because the reboot just seems to be a time skip, not a different dimension with rule changes
I think it's stranger, in a way. The continuity was always weird, there was a lot of fourth wall breaking and the story and everything doesn't necessarily carry from one episode to the next. A lot of old episode cartoon shows and shorts didn't really have much of a "canon," think of really old Looney Tunes shorts, where characters kept meeting each other for the first time over and over again. I can't remember now if there were things that happened in one episode of Tiny Toons that ever got brought up again, you could probably watch it in any order.
But the fact that they didn't used to try to even make it clear that each episode was in the same "universe" or had a continuing storyline to begin with almost makes it harder to separate them. With those anime it's clear there's a multiverse thing with different continuities with old western animation there kind of is no canon or continuity a lot to begin with. The original Tiny Toons talked about them being actors on Tiny Toons a lot.
I mean, the bottom left one is from long after technology existed to merge humans and robots into a single species (Albeit he was built by human purists who rejected that and fled to space), so him being a bio-organic robot would be pretty easy to accept.
I mean, Roll is also a bio-organic robot there too, since all the people are "Carbons" and not true humans (hence all the ancient robots trying to fulfill their programming to genocide the planet and reclone humanity proper)
Hey so can we get a Gravity Falls reboot where the mystery twins aren't related and make out? It's a new continuity, so there's no reason to find it weird.
And you're a newbie that can't tell the difference between blatant joking while being so helpless you need someone else to confirm things than look it up yourself
THATS the part you need a source on? You didn't read the sentence
>Plucky is trans? Sure why not
And immediately realize it's a shit post?
I think the worst part of kids these days watching mostly tictok is the fact they can no longer read posts Tone. In the old days just simple phrasing differences would tell if the guy is being funny or serious or extremely mad but now says everyone has posting autism and read everything as a literal statement of fact.
You know, its funny, outside the name, Max has NOTHING in common with yosemite apart from being an butthole.
Yosemite was a crazy gun redneck outlaw and came off as being kind of poor.
Max is just a rich b***h of a kid.
At least elmyra has the "hunting animals" thing, albeit for different reasons (To have as a pet)
>outside the name, Max has NOTHING in common with yosemite apart from being an butthole.
I like the more creative departures from classic Looney Tunes like Max. Him being a wealthy butthole was a great hook for a villain.
On t hat note, I think one of the things that made Fifi so likeable was that they focused more on her being looking for romance, rather than the "Grab and physically molest someone" angle of pepe, outside of her first episode with furball.
It kind of gave her a little more depth and ways to relate to the other girls to kind of show her as a lonely girl who was just wanting an emotional attachment.
2 years ago
Anonymous
They definitely played Fifi for sympathy, and yeah, it works for her. People naturally have more sympathy for a female character anyways. If they pulled that with Pepe he'd probably get more spite than anything for crying all "woe is me," so I'm not sure that route was even really available to him.
There is only 3 reasons for her to be lifting her tail at you anon, and you want to make sure that you pick the first one, because choosing the second will lead to the third.
He worked for WB for a decade and created 8 shows for them, if he was difficult to work with, he wouldn't have had that career. They just think of him as an old has-been.
2 years ago
Anonymous
He only did Spielberg stuff
Once they stopped he was out
And no other studio got him
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Got to make any rated PG show he wanted with insane creative freedom, but didn't get credited and only smaller circles knows he's the real creator
Would it be worth it
2 years ago
Anonymous
He also worked on Batman Beyond and Duck Dodgers. The most recent thing he's worked on is The 7D at Disney. Sherri Stoner, a Spielberg era writer, also worked on that show.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Spielberg wasn't involved in Taz Mania, Road Rovers, or Histeria. After WB he did Sushi Pack for DiC which is admittedly a "Who?" show for babies, but it had 52 episodes. After that he did Animalia for the Australians (40 episodes) and then Pac-Man and the Ghostly Adventures which was another 52 episodes. The last thing he did was The 7D for Disney which was 44 episodes.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Ruegger seems like the kind of guy who burned brightest early then decline
With his latest stuff I'm not sure he could come back to these shows and make a good show out of them. Surely better then Animaniacs 2020 but that's not saying much
That seemed to be the intent from the start as a kind of schaudenfraude, as after he's drawn he's booted out into an alley where it begins to rain and he has to live in a cardboard box. (strangely, he seems strangely happy with this).
By contrast, when he's getting booted into the alley, they show sweetie landing gently in a well kept nest.
They seemed to have caught on how douchey this was, as some later episodes treated him a little nicer, like having him get a happy ending and Sweetie being punished, or having him just follow the others as a generic nice guy.
Furball's problem is that the generic "nice guy" role for the party is filled by Hampton already, so he has to fall back on some other intercharacter chemistry.
>I so want the fanfic where Bugs makes the twin siblings kiss on camera or will fail them
This is the only thing out of this whole spitballing I want because it's fricking hilarious and actually in-character for trickster Bugs not this nicey-nicey shit, he would totally do that just because it's funny "Ain't I a stinker?"
I could see that but that'd make the twin thing even more gross.
Also Tiny Toons was already really meta anyway, they already basically had the premise that they knew they were on a show called Tiny Toons and were acting, the first episode was all of the characters literally getting drawn for the first time into existence to be on a show. Making meta of meta is...it's weird. Rescure Rangers wasn't a meta show making meta TTA involved ????????? overwriting the show's already meta meta where they are already actors and maybe also really going to school while also knowing they are drawn carton characters aaaaaghhh
Calling it now >Plucky/Hampton will be the Bert/Ernie gay couple that isn't vocal about it, but pretty much everyone knows. >Babs will probably be an independant girl focused on attaining her degree at "looniversity" and doesn't need a relationship.
There's a few more images shown that no one has leaked yet and that one podcast is trying to slowly leak out for some reason
Here's one of the teasers they did with new art
They simply use her less in season 2 or 3, has happened before.
If she's just punkish and not a c**t I don't think she'll be hated. But it's just interesting she's now straight up a main on par with the other 4
The weird thing is she just does not fit in the friend group with the others. The others are really dorky theater kids and she's coming off like some punk kid who doesn't give a shit, and those ones just never get along.
There's a chance she's written ok and it's not bothersome. Now if she's dating Babs, that's when she'll be the most hated Scrappy out there.
>The others are really dorky theater kids and she's coming off like some punk kid who doesn't give a shit, and those ones just never get along. >There's a chance she's written ok and it's not bothersome.
Yes it doesn't seem to work now but of course none of it has aired yet so it could work to be fair really well who knows. I'm just skeptical. Her original character was always kind of a sour note, a female butthole is a great idea but she was just a little bit too one note even for that, and I can't really explain it but she just didn't work while Babs was shown as an butthole sometimes but she worked, I think Sweetie was just underdeveloped. But she doesn't fit with the group and the punk tough girl now I don't see how she'll fit in especially if we're supposed to see her as cooler than all of the other main characters, that will get incredibly annoying really fast. If she's always bailing them out and rolling her eyes at them and so much cooler.
People forget WHY we hated Scrappy.
The whole "there's a new character that BELIEVES in Scooby and tries to drag uncle Scoob into danger that Scoob wants nothing to do with" angle was OKAY as a basis for the occasional joke. The problem was that it WASN'T the OCCASIONAL joke, that dynamic ended up taking over the whole show. Most of the cast was gone, "Scrappy gets Scooby into trouble and Scoob can't say anything because the kid looks up to him" became the dominant joke.
Whatever they do with her I don't think she'll end up a Scrappy, because I just can't see her taking over the show.
>because I just can't see her taking over the show.
I mean I hope not and I can't either but then I never saw them making Babs and Buster twin siblings coming from a million miles away either, But I hope not.
You sort of raise a good point, but at the same time I'd argue that it also goes to show that she can't become the Scrappy. Scrappy ruined Scooby Doo, which had a great dynamic until he took over the show. Here they managed to frick up the dynamic right at the start by making Buster and Babs into siblings. You can't kill a stillborn show.
>because I just can't see her taking over the show >"Hey bro meet my new girlfriend Sweetie"
Then she's Scrappy
Whatever you were trying to do there was clear in your head, I'm sure.
Remember that mods don't like it when you make incest the OP topic. Even though most of the thread will be about how they managed to make an incest cartoon in 2022.
I would totally frick her up the ass.
You're not an interesting person
I wantes to frick Sweaty bird so muxh
>sweaty
uhm, anon....
Um sweatie
its SWEETIE you fricking mongloids
like pottery
She's based and making you seethe
this is the tomboy you homosexuals deserve
LIVE AND LEARN
HANGIN ON THE EDGE OF TOMORROW
So seriously I know this whole thing is going to be permenantly derailed by the incest but pretending it isn't, what's their angle with her? If she was a male character she would probably think she's big and tough but she's small and it's funny, but because she's a female character, she has to think she's badass and actually be pushed by the show as ultra cool and badaas too and I can't see how that won't be unlikable.
I thought she was going to be turned into a villain since, as a disliked character who's character was about attacking and abusing another character, embracing her doucheyness to use her as an antagonist seemed like a logical way to utilize her.
But using her character archetype as a protagonist just doesn't seem like it'll work.
>But using her character archetype as a protagonist just doesn't seem like it'll work.
They have to redo her since she is a HUGE fricking butthole without a single redeeming quality in the original, honestly both Elmyra and Montana Max were way more sympathetic than her, and I mean that unironically. They were given way more sympathetic moments.
She's clearly not going to be a villain at this point and I think her character as a protagonist with some self-deprecation could work or showing her flaws, think of Johnny Bravo. If she's got this tough cool front and bravado but is pathetic that's typical of this kind of comedy.
The thing is though original Tiny Toon Adventures female characters were all really flawed, now, female characters for new cartoons and these reboots have to be incredibly cool and not have any real flaws, and always be right. They must be cooler and way more badass and competent than all the male characters always. That's always been a problem but wasn't a problem for original Tiny Toon Adventures and original Animaniacs, the female characters were even with the male characters in wackiness and flaws. But for the reboot for example Dot has to be the leader, the coolest, always right, and badass and she has to put up with her obnoxious brothers.
How can this play out with Sweetie? She can't have any flaws and has to be just as badass an ultra cool and more competent than anyone as she thinks she is. That's already annoying but if she knows it and it's not undermined how can that not just be obnoxious?
You're correct that it's going to be permanently derailed. As to Sweetie, my guess is that the joke with her is that she'll be the one that things violence is the solution to every problem, and the others have to hold her back. Pesto from Goodpidgeons.
If we're very very good we'll get the stuff with her bullying Furball and some kids will discover funny feelings.
>she'll be the one that things violence is the solution to every problem, and the others have to hold her back. Pesto from Goodpidgeons.
The Pesto angle with her could actually work really well, but I'm concerned that they won't be willing to ever do that with their female characters anymore. Pesto was also a butt monkey. That was true of female characters in og Animaniacs and og Tiny Toons but doesn't seem to be allowed for the reboots female characters, they have to be cool and always right.
I suspect (based on her design) that they'll be okay with her being the over-the-top "we'll solve the problem with fire" one. And occasional buttmonkey because arson can't get you out of class when Bugs Bunny is the teacher.
>I suspect (based on her design) that they'll be okay with her being the over-the-top "we'll solve the problem with fire" one. And occasional buttmonkey because arson can't get you out of class when Bugs Bunny is the teacher.
I hope so I'll reserve actual judgement to be fair until I see it. Just wondering. Yes it could definitely work if they do it right.
I barely even remember this character at all. What episodes were they in?
Very few, to the point where Sweetie had to take over an entire episode just to get any airtime.
The only one I remember was her trying to eat a worm.
you are confused. that was really you trying to suck your gay lovers 2 inch penis
There was some horror book parody iirc
Seriously, I don't get it. Nobody fricking liked her.
Just because Sweetie bird is being pitched as a "Main" character of the original loony toons doesn't mean it'll work with her.
A couple, which boiled down generally to "Furball is sleeping or minding his own business. She brutally (And I Mean BRUTALLY) begins physically abusing him.
Like, you weren't even supposed to root for her, as a couple of the episodes had her lose in the end (like Arnold starting to chase her instead, who she couldn't really bully)
Why is everyone thinking she's going to act exactly like she did in the original show?
If the bunnies are twins literally everything is up for grabs for changing, and that means her personality is changing for sure.
She might be "punk" but she won't be a c**t
>Why is everyone thinking she's going to act exactly like she did in the original show?
Because that's her only schtick, slapstick with furball: She has nothing else to go on as that's sweetie's only real thing too.
I'm not sure what other comedy you'd do with her.
Again, that was her only schtick in the original show. This is nothing like that show. That isn't going to be how she is if nothing is similar to the days of old, we only know so little and already every single aspect is different
It was the only gag she had
Her name was "Sweetie", she was anything but.
She's gonna gag on something else now
Tiny Toon was one of the series that got away with girl characters being imperfect and interesting to watch to start with [Babs' lack of self-control, Elmyra being a sociopath, Shirley being disinterested and in her own head] so it wouldn't be a stretch to think they could make Sweety a fun main character in her own right without leaning on what we assume to be 'muh girl power'. But it's easy to frick up and we've seen a lot of that kind of archetype before when trying to round out the gender balance of shows
How's she supposed to work without Furrball? I mean we saw he's there but he looks pretty unchanged so I guess still silent.
My guess is changing furball to be a jerk like Sylvester was.
Someone has to replace Fifi, who I assume will be written out of the reboot for being problematic.
Fifi is already confirmed in
Everyone's in. It's just that Sweetie has been upgraded to a main character and Shirley and Fifi have been been downgraded to supporting characters.
>Shirley is now a side character
why the FRICK, she'd fit in with today's youth than she did in the fricking 90s
Where are the good Melissa fan arts at? All I find is DA middle schooler shit.
Anon, Shirley struggles to be the third wheel in fanarts after all this time and is buried under constant avalanche of art by her show's peers. Tina from LTS is in the same boat while Lola has several sources to pull from. You really think someone as obscure as Melissa, at least the version from a one-off short, has any hope at all of garnering artists' attention? Protip, birds' beaks mean artists can't slap ears on an otherwise normal head to churn out pieces for the masses. This is the fate of all avian characters. You got to commission or DIY. I'd say be the change you want to see, but that's only ever spouted by people who don't realize how good they have it.
Babs and Fifi had appealing designs, sorry that ducks just aren't as nice looking.
Also, Babs was funny, Fifi was sexy, Shirley was the gross valley girl spiritual type.
Ruby Rat gets thrown in alot of TTA fanart in place of her, because despite being a side character, has a better design and is the cool "smoking" girl.
Frick you dude Shirley was awesome. I like those other characters too though. The only TTA girls who are shit are Elmyra and Sweetie.
Sweetie is just a midget girl Chris Farley
>Shirley was the gross valley girl spiritual type.
homosexual
>Shirley was the gross valley girl spiritual type.
>Shirley was the gross valley girl spiritual type.
Shirley the type a chick to get buck nekkid and do hot yoga at Rebecca Sugar's lesbo flower orgy cult and these anons are too coward to accept it.
>midsommar but with Shirley and the swans
Yeah I dig it
This is truth. Shirley worst girl, Shirley fans can seethe.
Shirley gets nice art sometimes but how can a beak suck a dick?
Shirley isn't terrible, probably B tier but next to the S tier that Babs and Fifi Shirley is a dud. Rubella Rat is indeed A tier because smoking delinquent girls are sexy in their own way.
Shirley would have been greatly improved by having more scenes where she showed her seductive side, than playing so hard to get with Plucky.
It's not our fault you're basic and can't appreciate hot ducks (frick off with the species discourse) like Shirley, anon.
Well I think Daisy Duck from Quack Pack is A tier
Same goes for these swan bawds.
But yeah, I still very much prefer Babs and Fifi.
>S tier that are Babs and Fifi, Shirley is a dud*
>sorry that ducks just aren't as nice looking
There's nothing wrong with being a duck. Donald, Daffy and Scrooge are some of the most famous cartoon characters ever.
Fifi and Shirley were always side characters. Thirsty fans and shipping would have you forget.
Sweetie...who everyone hated in the original show, all the female characters were flawed and often dislikable which was great but Sweetie had no redeeming bits and just wasn't a great character in general...
I swear that the only reason she got bumped to main instead of Fifi and Shirley is her Tweety Bird connection. They'll have to totally redo her whole character anyway. They could have done the same with Shirley and Fifi, but nobody knows or cares who Melissa Duck is and they're trying not to use Pepe le Pew much. Lack of marketable Looney Tunes tie in mentor is what prevented Fifi and Shirley from getting promoted to main.
>Lack of marketable Looney Tunes tie in mentor is what prevented Fifi and Shirley from getting promoted to main.
Right, there's supposed to be a new Sylvester and Tweety cartoon coming out. I guess Sweetie will be part of the promotion.
Also, for whatever weird reason, Tweetie was super popular with hood rats in the 90s. Weird fricking world.
Tweetie was super-popular. Period.
Shirley and Fifi were never main characters, it was always just the main four.
It's just they were the most notable side characters and get talked about so often you would think they were main characters
They were also Bab's friends when episodes called for her to have friends who were girls.
Shirley also paired well with Plucky, and Fifi with Hamton.
If they are moving Sweetie up to main it kinda makes sense those two aren't going to be used as much, since her and Babs will be used a lot as the two female friends in the overall friend group
>main four.
Buster, Babs, Plucky, Hamton?
those are the main 4 yes.
The main cast were Babs, Buster, Plucky, Fifi and Shirley. Most episodes revolved around them. Especially since Buster and Babs were the leads and those were their best friends.
>Fifi had multiple shorts
>and had a huge role in Summer Vacation
She obviously wasn't just a background character.
Forgot Hampton.
Its why all six of them were eventually paired off and were dating.
That's why they all had equal parts in the vacation movie
....I never noticed how Babs' background eye color was white while the other two are tinted blue. Why is this? And why was Babs given actual pupils with color and like, no one else?
Babs was designed differently from Buster to show that they aren't related
oops
Yes I know, all wasted in the end.
>while the other two are tinted blue. Why is this?
Probably so their eyes stand out from their white fur/feathers on their faces.
Good point.
I hope the reboot avoids giving them pure white eyes and off white body areas like in Animaniacs, where it looks like Warners stepped out of the water tower after smoking for 30 years.
Fifi is in the show.
Rape is only problematic when men do it. Not me being contrarian - it’s literally a legally precedent. Google Hermesmann v. Seyer.
It's okay when it happens to men
Fifi is already in the show you moron. At least say "disregard this, I suck wieners" like you're supposed to.
This will be the Furry show of 2020s
The horse replacement
ehhh i don't see it, you need more to hook an autismo crowd dedicated like the bronies again. MLP had the same OC potential like Sonic which played a big part of the whole thing.
I still feel bad for the fans of MLP who were with them since the beginning and the little girls and their parents who had to deal with the super autismo of Bronies.
is there anything right now that the new MLP anyway? Haven't really noticed a show that has had the same traction they got .
there is no such thing as "the next MLP" thats why there is nothing and never will be
Nah, that show was such a lightning in the bottle, came out at the right time, amassed a crazy huge fandom complete with its own cons, and then it all went away...like tears in the rain
>______ will be the new MLP
you morons need to stop thinking like this. MLP was its own thing and there wont be anything to rival or equal to it to be making this ridiculous comparison shit. frick MLP and frick you dummies who think every new show will be the "next MLP"
Better comparison is Zootopia
It will be the next Zootopia, but only if they actually commit to the whole college thing and not just them still being 13
No, it will be exactly like the Animaniacs reboot. It will have a small splash at the beginning and lose all traction because it's terrible
I don't think you're taking to account that the Warners were the only characters and are insanely niche for lewds, while the Tiny Toons characters have significantly more widespread appeal
AND Fifi is also in
It doesn't really matter how many characters you have or not if you don't know how to write for them. They're already changing the dynamics of the characters so it's not a vote of confidence that they will be written well. The Animaniacs reboot took a dive from not having the supporting cast, sure, but it wasn't the main reason the show sucked. The main reason the show sucked is because they ghosted the original writing crue, you know, the people that made the fricking show in the first place. And they're making the same mistake again with Tiny Toons. Get ready for more stale political jokes and "Babs get ipad" levels of modern "humor"
>It doesn't really matter how many characters you have or not if you don't know how to write for them
Sure it does
Star Vs and Steven Universe still get hundreds of new porn images a day despite having the worst series finale of all time for Star and both being actual horseshit. Only because there was a lot of characters people wanted to coom to
>But this is different they ruined established characters!
So did She-ra, which also got thousands of porn images
Anon, the amount of porn a show gets is not variably equal to the quality or even popularity of the show. One-off characters from obscure shows get porn all the time. The conparsion being made was that this will be the new horse show. Yes, the horse show had and still gets a metric frickton of porn, but that is not the only reason it was as popular as it was. It was able to capture a massive demographic outside of its target and garner a whole subsection of the furry fandom. Tiny Toons is not going to reinvent the wheel. It's going to be a splash in the pan of low quality nostalgia bait shows and nothing more
>Anon, the amount of porn a show gets is not variably equal to the quality or even popularity of the show
Yes, but that wasn't the argument being discussed here. It was about there being no porn because it won't be a good show
>The conparsion being made was that this will be the new horse show
No show will ever be the new horse show for a variety of factors
>that wasn't the argument being discussed here
Are you fricking stupid or something? My original reply was to the claim that it would be the horse show replacement. Neither the original post nor my reply mentioned porn, you fricking troglodyte
Time for a classic.
I still can't get over how Babs and Buster were just CONFIRMED to really be twin brother and sister now because holy fricking shit. All the romance in the og series and 3 decades' worth, just tons of fanfictiion fan art and porn is now retroactively incest. Good job, reboot.
No it isn't. Reboots are reboots, not revivals. Different continuity, different rules.
Lots of reboots treat themselves as continuations of the original series
>Biker Mice from Mars
>PPG 2016
>Animaniacs 2020
>The Proud Family: Louder and Prouder
>Masters of the Universe: Revelation
>MLP: A New Generation
That's just off the top of my head.
Mice from Mars
Wait, what?!
Yeah, they had a cartoon in the mid 00s, right around the time Saturday morning cartoons were dying.
Those are revivals, not reboots. Reboot means reboot, starting over.
Also in the public conscious most reboots replace the original, especially if they are good and often considered the MAIN continuity now.
People still holding onto this notion that reboots are completely disconnected from the OG is massive cope. Most companies treat them as a replacement.
Can you actually name multiple examples?
The modern He-Man and She-Ra reboots? I don't see them ever going back to the originals
I'd argue that OG He-Man will stay the one in the public consciousness. Smith's show got attention, but it's basically just "for big boys" continuation of the original and unlikely to supplant it. The CGI show just never got the audience to replace the original.
She-Ra though, yeah. That property's been fundamentally changed by the recent show.
She-ra is already forgotten
Gotta check new He-man I guess, but he was rebooted before and they did go back to original
>She-Ra is already forgotten
Catra is literally trending on twitter right now.
I'd kill to have more shows I love get "forgotten" like that.
No she isn't
Trending for (you) isn't really trending
You are a very tiresome individual.
Also her thread here is being kept alive via a pathetic comic bump
No popularity left
You are a very stupid homosexual that should get the Hell out of here.
The sad thing is, this is the end result for this series.
She-ra was scorned when it was first shown and teased for changing everything. And all of that is forgotten now because they brought the lesbians in at the end. And years later and these people can't let this show go.
And that's what will happen here. All of this siblings drama will be forgotten by the Twitter people crying over it now when Babs is dating some female and it will be praised as the goat reboot
I actually find that modern reboots that go on long enough or fail hard enough to "deboot" into something more resembles the original
THE FRICKING HOST MADE A MISTAKE YOU MOUTH BRATHING SHITSTAIN.
Anon...
He's the character design supervisor. I'm hoping it was a mistake on his part.
>that OG episode where shirley got naked
that was the exact point I knew I couldn't turn back
So graceful
>opens locks to put outfit away
>throws shoes in the ground
What the frick, animators?
IT WASN'T A SLIP-UP FRICK
HOLY SHIT
I knew it, It's like Johnny and Hadji in reverse
100% one of them is gay now there's no other reason they'd do this
I hate this, but of course it's true. You can't bring back a show and not give characters as tribute to LGBT. The almighty rainbow flag demands it!
Why? What is the point?
To forever end the "no relation" gag. Yes relation now.
Wasn't that gag about not being related to Bugs?
To each other. And probably Bugs as well sure. They all have the same last name, but no they're not related (until now).
>Bugs is now their father
>Episode where they search for their mother
>It's Honey Bunny
No, it was each other. Their Animaniacs cameo in the Noah's Arc episode made that even more clear. But the jokes was always that they were both "Bunny" but they just shared the same last name but were not related.
They also dated and lived in different houses and clearly weren't related otherwise anyway.
This is probably how they are going to rewrite it
>Buster and Babs Bunny, no relation (to Bugs Bunny)
There is none. It's completely arbitrary like most of these reboot changes.
Gonna ask again
Who will they date now that they can't be with each other?
Knowing the showrunner and her previous show, they'll both be gay so Babs and Sweetie and Buster and Plucky who comes across as a theater gay himself.
What was her previous show?
Gay of Thrones
>Concept image with Buster and Plucky pushing each other
>Other concept image where Plucky really is posing like a gay theater kid
It's going to be them, I wasn't totally sure about it but this news is making it obvious
And it's going to be mega-popular with how much people online go insane over Baffy
I love Baffy but as a Plucky/Hampton and Babs/Fifi shipper from the og show. Close but no cigar
Buster and Babs introducing themselves and bluntly stating “No relation.” Was a running gag in the original. How do they even come to the conclusion that this is ok?
>This will stop the porn.
Yes anon, Dipper and Mabel have had zero porn because it's incest
OH NO NO NO NO NO
Please tell me this is a joke!
Frick these stupid zoomer writers, just blow it all up! It's not worth it!
How do you just...shit over the basic mechanics of the original show? What in the frick is there to gain here by changing the status quo? Nothing. This will just inrage people. It's amazing to me how some remakes give so little respect to the original characters and dynamics of those characters.
Because if there's no outrage there's no viewership or discussion
Three Caballeros did the best straightfoward reboot of the characters in years. It was buried hard and only people here discussed it. Reboots that handled the material terribly like She-ra got way more response
It didn't help the show was relegated to the phillipines while Ducktales and other shows ran constant ads on TV and social media
>"No relation."
Followed by a wink and an elbowing, apparently.
>did it work for Bart and Lisa?
>did it work for Dipper and Mabel?
>did it work for Ben and Gwen?
>did it work for The Loud House?
>did it work for Deedee and Dexter?
>did it work for The Powerpuff Girls?
>did it work for The Animaniacs
>did it work for Arthur and D.W?
It's just going to make the lewds hotter.
Oh no this series is still getting so much porn, these two just have the incest audience now
>7/24/22
Oh shit did you just make this
No. Spongefox on DA.
fricking imbeciles
This just means there will be more porn. People are just over reacting.
casually uprooting one of the most iconic running gags of the original show paints clearly how the rest of the reboot will be treated. It's not over reacting at all.
Oh no, the reboot that everyone knew from the beginning was going to be shit is goind to be shit!
>everyone knew from the beginning was going to be shit
Not normalgays. They liked the Animaniacs reboot and were excited for this. Which is why there's a freak out from them now.
It's like rebooting Looney Tunes and having Lola and Bunny be related. It's just a weird writing decision. The only thing I can imagine is they want to do more "home life" setups, similar to how NuManiacs focused A LOT on the trio's life inside the water tower, and in order to do that, they wanted Babs and Buster to be related so they had an excuse to have them fight over the bathroom in the morning or whatever.
>It's like rebooting Looney Tunes and having Lola and Bunny be related
Logically Loonatics kinda did that since Ace and Lexi should both be descended from Bugs and Lola. People also pointed out how weird that was back in the day
Loonatics is ambiguous, though. Some characters were plainly stated to be descended from others (mainly season 2 villains), but the Loonatics themselves weren't. I think some marketing might've said they were descendants (either before or after they pivoted away from Buzz Bunny) but it's never mentioned in the show and everyone came from different walks of life, so if Ace and Lexi were related it'd probably be distantly.
If you think about it the controversy over that is stupid because they are 1000 years away from their ancestors and there's no way they'd know about that "incest" and how negligible it would be
IM BUGS FRICKIN BUNNY, b***h!
I read somewhere that Lexi descended from Buster and Babs. If that is the cake, that makes it even worse right now.
oh frick
What's confusing me is the leaked art (which was mostly accurate for the designs of Sweetie, Hamton, etc) shows Buster and Plucky in a dorm. If they are in some college setting they are going to be in dorms, and there has never been a time where opposite genders would share said dorms. So that takes out Buster and Babs living together and acting like siblings that way
They’re in a fricking college. With dorms. Just make it a shared dorm and you could have the original main 6, Sweetie, and a 4th boy all living in the same building.
I actually wonder who Hamton is going to room with
>Buster and Plucky was in the concept art
>Babs almost definitely is going to be with Sweetie
Will Hamton be with another guy, with Buster/Plucky or by himself?
>we want the gravity falls/loud house audience
Wh-what the frick happened to "No relation?"
I remember bonus stage made this a joke like 20 years ago
>Comes in
>Takes one of the main character roles
>Makes your childhood waifu lesbian and starts dating her
Why is Sweetie so fricking based?
Wasn't there a midget bird that swore all the time and all the dialog had to be censored? Tiny rooster dude with a leather jacket?
Am I high or was that not a thing?
that was "foulmouth" and yes that was his name in the cartoon as well.
Huh...
Ah. That was the lil dude tryna bag Shirley.
Thanks.
yeah.. he wanted to stick his wiener in her corkscrew canal (get it wiener... cause he is a rooster).
I wonder if they recorded those lines with actual swear words then bleeped them out. would be funny to hear the original recordings if they exist
Great, I hate Sweetie Bird even more now, thanks.
I like lesbian Babs but with Fifi like in my fanarts and fanfictions, Sweetie is shit.
She kind of was in the first place. Sweetie had a lot of sketches on the old show.
It was Calamity Coyote and Beeper that only had like..a single episode.
Yes and they were terrible even more than the rest of the show. Sweetie was awful.
Most of the show was just not good at all. Majority of it was just really badly ripoffs of various Chuck Jones shorts, or just reusing a lot of the visual gags from them. The only thing I ever thought was any good from Tiny toons was the movie.
It wasn't good, but it had its moments. I agree that the movie was the best thing from it. It was good for what it was.
The one really brilliant bit of Tiny Toons was actually the banned episode, One Beer. Most people don't seem to get the extremely bitter sarcasm of the writers being forced to make it. The whole episode is savagely mocking moralizing PSAs and the idea that it'd even matter if a kid had just a sip of beer. I think that's why it was banned, the sarcasm.
>Most people don't seem to get the extremely bitter sarcasm of the writers being forced to make it. The whole episode is savagely mocking moralizing PSAs
That was sort of a thing in the 90s, mocking the PSAs of the 80s. But that was also a big part of everything 90s had to be cool and rebellious at all times and constantly pretending to deride authority. It was also why they had the Wheel of Morality in Animaniacs. Eek! the Cat made fun of them constantly, so did Garfield and Friends.
Kind of like how people were nostalgic for Animaniacs when most of the sketches sucked and it was mostly just waiting for Pinky and the Brain, Good Idea/Bad Idea, and Wheel of Morality.
I find it funny they only did two Katie Kaboom sketches because it was an awful one note joke, but then did dozens of Goodfeathers and Chicken Boo sketches which were also awful one note jokes.
Frick you I was waiting for Slappy
There were like 6-7 Katie Kaboom sketches. And at least Goodfeathers played around with different mafia movies, and a couple Hitchwiener ones.
Uh rude, Slappy.
But yes after the first season Animaniacs really went downhill. But there were good moments even in the bad segments in the first season. The Rita and Runt Les Miserables skit and Goodfeathers West Side Story parodies were fun and Chicken Boo was funny once or twice.
I find it funny the episode with Katie crossing over with another character aired before the episode that was made to introduce Katie
I liked Goodfeathers and how it made fun of mafia movies. Slappy was great and things like Mime Time and Chicken boo were usually pretty good.
For me it was Rita and Runt, Hip Hippos (Except the Richard Lewis Noah one) Buttons and Mindy, Minerva Mink, and the historical stuff with the flame that I hated.
>Hip Hippos
The absolute worst.
I only like Rita and Runt because a cat is f i n e t o o
Goodfeathers were fun though and had good chemistry. They also parodied more than just mafia movies.
I do remember how Calamity and Beeper barely ever appeared at all despite how many Roardunner cartoons were made in the 60s. I imagine Tom Ruger never liked them or really could not fit two mute characters into Tiny Toons well enough. But Sweetie makes some sense considering how many Tweety and Sylvester shorts were made. The ABC Looney tunes show was the Bugs and Tweety show for something like 30 years.
>I imagine Tom Ruger never liked them or really could not fit two mute characters into Tiny Toons well enough.
That and there was already a mute character that got beat up and blown up at all times in Furball. Calamity was just more of the exact same joke and it was not needed. Plus most kids were not huge fans of Roadrunner sketches since they were so simplistic and nothing but Wile e falling down over and over again. Furball could do more and interact with more characters like Elmyra and Arnold.
It's because Chuck Jones was super-pissed about Calamity and Beeper existing, for some reason.
>We had younger versions of other classic characters...Barky Marky was our junior version of Marc Anthony, and as you mentioned, he made it into very few cartoons. Chuck Jones was not particularly enthusiastic for us to use too much of the characters he felt that he had created. So there was never a lot of Little Beeper and Calamity, or Barky. We felt more justified using Fifi, since she was a girl character, as opposed to Pepe.
http://platypuscomix.com/people/ruegger2.html
>Chuck Jones was not particularly enthusiastic for us to use too much of the characters he felt that he had created.
That's a light way of putting it, he allegedly called Tiny Toons his "moronic stepchildren."
To be fair, when Chuck Jones liked anything? I can see why he was angry with Tiny Toons but Chuck Jones hated everything
Wrong, Chuck Jokes like Beauty and the beast, Aladdin and Ren & Stimpy, he also hated his own short "the dot and the line".
In the Tiny Toons DVD's extras they have one female writer going "some think our cartoons can't compete with the original shorts but I think they are wrong" and then right after that it cuts to a male writer saying "There's no way for Tiny Toons to compete with the masterpieces they had in the original Looney Tunes shorts of course, no way at all"
Ehh, Sweetie was definitely one of the second tier characters that got a lot more screen time than most. Especially in the second season. It's not that surprising that she gets a main character level billing. Especially when Tweetie was considered one of the main Looney Tunes
The main 4 might have been Buster, Babs, Hampton, and Plucky, with Montana being the constant antagonist. But Sweetie, Fifi, and Elmyra were the nest step down that still got lots of screen time. Sweetie getting more than Fifi or Shirley.
Incase this thread dies
Let me turn to your attention to this post made a few months ago
>t. Dandi
At least we had one day of nothing negative
wow
Imp if you are lurking show me a sign.
Just something interesting I noted
Erin Gibson talks about gay issues and associates with gays, but I cannot find any proof she actually is gay herself. She has married guys before and she has never openly mentioned she's attracted to the same gender.
So if this show is really going to be Gibson's self-insert and she's Babs then Babs is not the gay one, it's going to be her "brother"
What...don't tell me Tress is not coming back for Babs. WHY, WHY the frick does Animaniacks get their original VA's and TTA get the shaft?
Buster's gonna be gay isn't he
Based
My guess is that Babs will be.
Yep
At least the gaygays are going to have a ball with this
>At least the gaygays are going to have his balls with this
ftfy
>Buster is now 18
>Buster now finds dicks attractive
This is going to be interesting
Hamilton would be a better pick to be gay.
>Hamilton
its HAMPTON you moron
He's definitely going to have a gay crush on Plunky (who will be a closet bisexual) and they will end up together at the end of the first season.
I'm more surprised that Mary Melody hasn't been put up with this cast at this point.
She was hardly in the original series.
Wasn't there some deer character? Or was that just a one off from the movie?
>they hated him because he spoke the truth about their valley duck waifu
>Guy who broke the news is ignoring anyone crying about it and posted the high res of the other art shown at SDCC instead
Uh based?
What else is he supposed to do? I doubt it was even his call to make and it's too late to change anything anyway.
There's nothing to say. New continuity, sure, that's fair. Will still be weird to a lot of people no matter what, at least for a while.
>BUSTER IS TOTALLY GONNA BE GAY
>PLUCKY'S GONNA BE GAY
>BABS AND EVERYONE ELSE WILL BE GAY
Jesus christ, I thought Cinemaphile was the paranoid board.
>The show by the creator of fricking "Gay of Thrones" just shot down the main ship of the series by making them blood related
Anon, there's no paranoia here.
Yes, and Bugs will ass frick Dizzy Devil live on screen.
Buster will Bust Plucky wide open when he sees him in a dress
So you never watched the show. Buster cross dressed more then Plucky.
I don't see what them being siblings has to do with anybody being gay. Even if there are gay characters or couples now, I don't care what anybody says, you didn't have to make them siblings for that. It would take 30 seconds to say that they're just friends and aren't interested in each other in that way in the reboot. Some people might be frustrated but not as much as shippers will be now that their ship is incest, none of that makes any goddamn sense at all.
Have you just... not been paying attention to modern western shows?
Sure do love Gay beavis and butthead
So you don't care enough?
Not him but can you give a bit more information so I can screenshot myself?
I can try to find it on the tiny toons wiki. I just remember Bugs was going through his wallet or something, and there's a picture of a blue rabbit girl in a bikini with an xoxo over it, and he hides it.
Could be mashing two memories. I'll dig through the tiny toons wiki.
Just because a show's revived and a dynamic changes doesn't mean everyone's going to be gay, Cinemaphile. Beavis and Butt-Head are apparently brothers now, and they're not gay for Stuart.
>it was implied bugs fricked buster's mom
>now buster's mom and babs' mom are combined
>bugs has two shit kids now
>it was implied bugs fricked buster's mom
Sauce?
>that episode where montana max keeps mary melody as a slave
Sauce?
Bugs pulls out a picture from his wallet and it's a rabbit in a bikini. The rabbit has the same colors as Buster's Mom in season 1.
plz post screengrab for proof or else it didnt happen
Credit Card episode, I believe.
>asked for a screenshot as proof, dumbfrick just gives episode title as if im supposed to go research the shit he said exists and provided no proof
also having trouble finding it since I want to see rabbit breasts
I searched the transcripts of every episode.
Bugs only pulls his wallet out in one episode, which does involve a credit card, but there aren't any photos.
That anon is probably getting it confused with something else, or just lying.
>inb4 Plucky and Shirley are also siblings
They're different species with different names. It's not impossible but the reasoning isn't the same
>different species
uhm anon they are both ducks. shirley is clearly a duck and so is plucky. I think you are referring to different BREEDS not SPECIES you retared mongloid frickstick. different species would be a duck and a pig or a rabbit and a bear. different breeds of the same species can be related.
goddamn people are fricking stupid
Nobody gives a shit, most people don't even know the difference. The point was that they're not the same thing you pedantic autist
>Nobody gives a shit
clearly you did to respond to me telling you how stupid you were not knowing the difference between species and breeds
get educated moron
I'm gonna purposefully spread misinformation about this now
well, good for you. anyone with a brain will know better. so you will only be messing with the morons.
>Conflating information with intelligence
>uhm anon they are both ducks. shirley is clearly a duck and so is plucky. I think you are referring to different BREEDS not SPECIES
Duck is a common name for a bunch of different species(not just breeds) within the Waterfowl(Anseriformes) order. Some ducks are closer relatives of geese and swans than other ducks, and are occasionally dismissed from the category "true ducks".
Second, Loons are not even closely related to ducks, they are far closer to penguins and even flamingoes.
>duck
>loon
I dunno how people frick this up when she chants it all the time.
Buster and Babs, constantly said, they weren't related. Did that stop them?
>that episode where montana max keeps mary melody as a slave
I wonder if this new show will feature any licensed music, like how TMBG and Aretha Franklin songs were used in the old show.
that was a one-off episode and dont think that will ever happen again
>that episode where foulmouth got kicked off of howard stern
howard didnt want the competition!
She's going to be Furrball's psycho girlfriend, calling it here.
Like the poor sap hasn't suffered enough.
>PreyXPredator relation ship
>Dom prey
>Cutedom
yes
YES
YEEEEEEESSS!!!
I'd picture her as the sort that relentlessly "bullies" him without causing anything more than discomfort and embarrassment, but then she finds out someone actually hurt him and Deals With 'Em Permanently. In a funny way, like marooning them on Mars or an island about to be used for nuclear testing, but yeah.
I'm still digging through the Tiny Toon wiki. But now I'm also watching tiny toons. Help
So, you're saying Sweetie will beshat on as much as Pucky?
God I hope
Remember a few days ago when the biggest controversy was if Fifi was going to be in?
>Babs, 'ow vould you and your brozer like to join moi in a, 'ow vous say, ménage à trois?
It looks fun and good otherwise, just this one choice is so stupid and pointless. Gives it a weird feeling for absolutely no reason. It doesn't ruin it, though.
If this is actually a good show I can forgive it.
I don't think it will be, but this is the only that that looks bad right now about it
Cute!
>remember when yesterday was Sunday?
I don't get the point of your post.
I want to coom inside the loon
>you'll never get molested by the astral projection of shirley
Maybe in a next life
Stando
Where's the other cute new Shirley pic? At least can get some cute new fan art out of this.
Artist forgot to color the other shade/lens in.
Nice.
Just some typical brother/sister bonding
Is this not normal sibling behavior?
Hate to say it but take a page from Ducktales 17 and embrace it. Donald and his sister bunking together or Webby and HDL being related through cloning bullshit made shipping way more fun.
well they are somewhere in the south in that special
"You're being so forceful oniichan "
She was thirsty as frick in that movie for his wiener.
get yourself to the trash thread before you're removed
Where do you post, I need to know, great art.
>great art
Awkward
You just KNOW
Thank you. Thank you for drawing what I was going to request if I had caught you elsewhere, which was their reaction to the news.
How do you feel about it personally?
Not them but is there a single person outside the israelites at Hollywood who did this who actually likes this change?
People with a furry incest incest fetish (e.g. myself)
Is he gone now?
Only if the @#%$@ ^%@#@$s running this $@$@% show want to $!@#!$ ruin it by not !$@!$!@ bringing back the $@!#!@# best $%@^%@#$^@ character in the $!@#@!# original.
Get the frick off Cinemaphile, Fowlmouth.
If they brought him back they'd make him an incel
Do we know anything about her personality? I assume just based on looks alone, they're going for the "really comically tough tiny character". Like, she's going to act like a bar biker that likes to pick fights and kick the shit out of scared little Furrball despite being a tiny, high-pitched bird. So basically, Chickenhawk.
Look at what you've done WB.
I think both characters will easily survive this, it doesn't ruin them as characters in the slightest
It just really fricking awkward right now
>really fricking
Oh I bet
Oh man I cant wait for MOAR art shitting on this dumb idea
>Babs and Buster are twin siblings
But... they have different parents. They live separately. They've kissed on-screen. I'm fricking confused, gents.
It's guaranteed to make them no longer eligible to love each other. A boy and a girl of the same species, in love? Not nearly progressive enough. Media has to bombard kids with confusing messages to stop them from growing up into breeders.
Honestly, this would make the show way more interesting than it has any right to be. They've been romantically involved for over thirty years... and then discover they're brother and sister? That would be some heavy shit for a kids show.
>That would be some heavy shit for a kids show.
If it's handled like a discovery and not just a retcon, maybe. But I bet it's a retcon. They'll just pretend it's how it's always been. But ships aren't interesting, so I'll disagree on the "interesting" part.
>"No relation"
THAT WAS THE FIRST JOKE IN THE FRICKING SHOW YOU FRICKING MONGRELS
So this is a reboot, right? I thought it was a sequel but making Babs and Buster brother and sister is so off-kilter that they couldn't possibly justify it in canon.
Need milking, mams? mam?
It being a reboot explains why they were able to bring back Fifi. She'll be a man-hating feminist.
I think I've just lived too long.
She will just be toned down on the chasing thing.
she does go on a rant about how prom is sexist in the original, but it's obviously played for laughs since she immediately agrees to go with Hamton right after. They'll make it unironic now
Congrats your show is trending lmao
>lo ultimo forma de la COVID-19
>es el fin, globohomo
Buster and Babs went trending too.
Not for "this'll be great for the show!" reasons.
I feel so bad for this guy lmao
Yeah it's not his fault, poor guy. Wish people would leave him alone.
He's just doing art, poor bastard. And his art's good! Really good!
But the writers are cowards on top of being incompetent, so it fell to him to go "yeah, you heard right." Based Lentendo deserves to work on a better show.
>Jannies are cleaning up
Lol rip this show being on Cinemaphile
>suspect
Why doesn't anyone use "suspicious" anymore?
Come on, you know why
You just know that the only reason they made Buster and Babs brother and sister on this series is to make Babs a lesbian, just for FRICKS sake don't ship her as that stupid bird, literally ship her with any girl but that bird., also what the frick did they mean with "Yeah, Sweetie is a main character this time! we are finally getting the Sweetie we deserve"??
Why do you think they are only making Babs a lesbian?
Buster is the more likely candidate
>Why do you think they are only making Babs a lesbian?
Because Jellystone already did the gay WB owned ship, so I can see them doing lesbians now
These people need to be pelted with rocks and hanged.
Fricking degenerate.
That alone makes me dispise Jellystone and any spawn that slough off from it to other shows.
>babs has a bikini on
>after she gets out of the crumpled chair she is fully clothed
gotta love that shit.
>TMS fan service with a bikini that thin
If only they were string bottoms.
I genuinely couldn't feel anything for these 2, they're so boring and annoying both solo and as a couple.
Not to mention ugly.
The artist deleted their tweet confirming the siblings thing and Cartoon Crave deleted theirs announcing the news.
Our "professional" showrunners, ladies and gentlemen. Bunch of moronic children.
None of them are showrunners, the twos showrunners don't have twitter and have a private twitter.
This was just some artist who doesn't make show decisions and was being blunt because they already spilled it out anyway and they couldn't hide it forever.
So is it too late in production to change that hamfisted idea or is it just damage control?
>The artist deleted their tweet confirming the siblings thing
No they didn't
https://twitter.com/Lentendo/status/1551132205774098432
Huh. Twitter must've glitched for me, then. Cartoon Crave definitely deleted there's though.
They did
It's been 2 years and some animators already finished storyboarding, anon
So it's gonna be shit then. Figured as much
Wonder why though, I really doubt they have insiders telling them elsewise since they never report on that stuff
Maybe it was getting too hostile and negative?
Did they have insider sources or was their only confirmation Lentendo's tweet and Bab's VA announcement?
It was just him and that's all that was needed. He's the character design supervisor, he's not going to be wrong or mistaken. They likely got tired of the flood of negativity.
I almost wonder if WB asked them to because of the huge negative reaction. But they might as well get it over with now. Obviously people will know eventually!
You're right that it's better to get it out months before this thing comes out, ripping the band aid off now so we know what to expect and giving the slightest chance to change it.
Because even if they change it, we know the bunnies would never be dating in this and know it's very likely they are going to be dating someone else of the same gender. Nothing will be as shocking as this move so we just get it over with early and some people who don't want to pay attention don't need to. Far better then finding out like 3 days before the show aired
I literally don't think there's any connection between this choice and maybe making one or both gay, maybe they did or didn't but this has nothing to do with it. I think they see Gravity Falls, Frozen, Ducktales and felt siblings would give the series some new marketable quality or family angle they wanted for storytelling.
They seem to be wanting to do arcs and development but thats not in keeping with the original. I think wanting that new direction is fine but they should have just made them friends and the same arcs are just childhood friends arcs, it just takes a tiny amount of creativity. It doesn't have to be literal family.
I'm not really a fan of romance in my shows myself, but someone must have really HATED the Buster/Babs ship to pull this. Babs especially could be CRAZY HORNY for Buster at some parts, and there's no vagueness about it. To just toss that to the side really screams of butthurt to me
Cartoon Crave likely deleted their tweet because they stupidly @ Lentendo's account in the tweet and it was blowing up, so dude was getting even more unwanted attention. CC probably realized and deleted.
There's a LOT of people who hated the ship because they think Babs was way too good for someone like Buster
The girl who made the initial concept art hated the ship and openly stated as such on Twitter. It should have been obvious to us...
>"Babs Bunny"
>cut to her getting pounded by Buster
>"Buster Bunny"
>zoom in on his shaft sliding in and out of Babs
>"Relation," they say in unison
>close up shot of their making out while fuzzy blue testicles are drained into pink pussy lips her legs wrapped around his hips
>pan out view of family photos of them
Reboot's gonna be great
The only way to save this reboot is if Erin gets fired and replaced with someone that isn’t cringe
We literally have had zero seconds of footage shown
"Someone is now gay" should be the middle free space.
Here we go
Calling it now I've been thinking this for months, this show is going to be a meta Looney Tunes Back in Action/ Who Framed Roger Rabbit take on Tiny Toons. Original show was just the characters acting scripts and looniversity is going to be the characters learning how to do what they execute in the original, they take place during the same time. Buster + Babs dating is going to be retconned as "They've always been twins, they were just playing the roles of a couple in the original". Evidence to support the general idea of this is the tv in the poster not being a flatscreen, its a box tv and vcr (literally looks like something out of the 90s), the original show having so many references to scripts/censors/ and other meta aspects, the characters not looking like they've been aged up at all, the weird way the staff has been referring to whether or not this show and the original are connected, etc. The original is "Tiny Toon(s): Adventures" this is "Tiny Toons: Looniversity" its a school "coming of age" sitcom about these characters learning how to be cartoon characters while they act in their own cartoon in the 90s show. Discourse about b+b not dating is going to be literally irrelevant in the reboot and will only be used to make ironic jokes about the old "No relation" catchphrase.
That's dumb but I don't mind if they do that, but they still don't need to make them siblings to do that.
Also I'm not saying it's "wrong" but twin siblings playing a romantic couple that actually kiss and make out in a show within a show is still fricking weird as frick. The other way around, actors who play siblings or other relatives dating, on the other hand, actually happens all the time and makes total sense. They meet through work and it doesn't matter what their roles relationship is. The original series being base reality is less gross then.
Seen several people have theorized them doing the "acting out the 90s cartoon as part of their studies" or something similar since "meta" is all the rage now
The main issue is that it makes the whole siblings thing worse, because this would mean as part of their "studies" the adults of the Looniversity are making two twins act out as boyfriend and girlfriend and kiss each other on the lips and flirt. It really would come off as professors sexually exploiting the two rabbits
This is just coming up with a head canon and getting mad about it.
It's an observation and very reasonable, imbecile.
"Theorized" that is, you're just making up a scenario out of whole cloth based on your own fears and then getting mad about it.
Leaked concept art of Plucky shows him using a smartphone.
Nothing from that concept piece made it out, and it appears the show was heavily retooled from that point so I really need to see a new image to be sure it's modern day (even though it very likely is going to be)
He's wearing the same shirt and has the same expression he has in the promo images.
Holy shit! Bazinger Plucky!!!
No, you moron. Nobody got mad over that, they are simply pointing how stupid it would be if they tried to justify the original Babs & Buster as "just an act". If anything, the idiot getting angry at imaginary situations is you.
Not really
One thing I do think you're on though is how there hasn't been one instance of them having phones or anything being seen as "modern" in any of the concept images, only that 90s tv in the one image. Which you'd expect 12 phones to be shown by now for a "modern" take. Straight up didn't notice it until now but this might very well be set in the 90s and hasn't been specified
I don't think any "logical" explanation will make it not FEEL weird. It's fine, it just will plain feel weird no matter what.
Also I'm not going to stop shipping them just because of this, frick you HBO Max.
>"They've always been twins, they were just playing the roles of a couple in the original"
Who the frick would be so loony to make them do that? Bugs?
>OK Buster now kiss your sister passionately and remember to use tongue! Boy aren't I a stinker?
>>OK Buster now kiss your sister passionately and remember to use tongue! Boy aren't I a stinker?
To be fair that is in character for Bugs. And really funny to think about Bugs Bunny making twin siblings kiss to pass a class. Almost like he's an...ammoral trickster archetype.
Bugs only used tricks against people who were out to get him and only resorted to "playing dirty" because he was a weak little rabbit who was dealing with stronger foes, the only exception was for the final gag in Duck Amuck. Him going out of his way to harass some children is not in character, you creep.
>come on bro, it's for our grade!
Damn that makes it even better.
Tiny Toons already flip flopped between the setting being a real place and the setting being a location their for their show, which they were only actors for. The series mostly treated things as if it were the former, but it got plenty meta pretty often. To do what you're saying, they'd have to recon the meta of the old show and replace it with the new meta and at that point, shit's just ridiculous.
>Buster + Babs dating is going to be retconned as "They've always been twins, they were just playing the roles of a couple in the original".
You don't think that sounds all gross and weird, too? There's seriously NO salvaging this new twin angle.
Yes this, I wish and hope that they take it out though that would probably be hard. Just make them childhood platonic friend who are roommates now FRICKING hell it'd be just fine, fricking seriously.
Everything you want to do with them as twin siblings can be done with them as just really close but platonic friends since they're little kids.
>but no romance would be unbelievable lol
You're fricking delusional if you don't think that Babs/Buster shippers (unless they're into twincest specifically) wouldn't prefer some shit like that that only 2% of fans will give a shit about or have a problem with vs making their ship siblings now despite being a canon couple before for frick's sakew. No it's not ideal but it's 5 trillion times better than this so frick off.
They could have easily had them be a former couple who are now friends on good terms, if they wanted this angle so badly. Just make them like "oh yeah hehe that was embarrassing"
well they removed the tweet saying they were twins, correct?
That could mean that the dude saying it was mistaken and got b***hslapped for it by corporate.
>well they removed the tweet saying they were twins, correct?
No
Different anon here. The funny thing is I don't remember much about TT adventures, but I do remember that I liked the humor (despite never getting into Animaniacs) and the animation. I remember also liking all the silly lovey-dovey stuff, so this is a weird change to me.
Personally, I always thought TTA was the better show. Both used references and meta humor but in TTA there was something else going on besides that while in Animaniacs it was usually the entire point. Also TTA always makes it clear it's set in the 90s and asks the viewer to consider that while it feels like Animaniacs never worried about it out of arrogance.
>Go to work
>Some poor tech girl got fired
>She was in charge of cleaning down our machines at the end of the shift yesterday, and didn't bother wiping down the ones that never even got used, because she needed to rush home to her sick mom
>Saying "yeah, they're still clean" without giving a daily dusting is a firing offense apparently
>Meanwhile in Hollywood you can frick up this badly and face no consequences
Bro that sounds like one of those terrible work places that b***hes that no one wants to work anymore
It is.
There's people defending this already.
4 different iterations?
Bad boxart megaman isn't a real iteration, its a joke.
Second, Trigger isn't megaman (he's a dude untold hundreds if not thousands of years later, and roll is just coincidentally named roll), and Exe. is a different universe.
This is a bad, BAD argument.
>Trigger isn't megaman (he's a dude untold hundreds if not thousands of years later, and roll is just coincidentally named roll)
There could easily be a connection between X and the Purifier Unit called Trigger who was reborn into Volnutt. Besides, what is even the criteria for "being a Megaman?" It's not exactly an authentic title in the games. Just the game title.
>Besides, what is even the criteria for "being a Megaman?" It's not exactly an authentic title in the games.
In ZX they started using "megaman/megamen" as an actual title, which was pure cringe.
If you were able to use a bio-metal (via the M.E.G.A system)
The new show shouldn't exist, frick that guy.
Fricking MEGAMAN as an example. Truly the story of kings.
>Kirbopher
He thinks anything is good if someone else did it before.
>no one batted an eye at that?
I did, but I also know Japan often has a weird thing with incest in its media, too, if there's "no blood relation", despite how the characters may have been raised together.
Yes Japan has canon incest couples, especially cousins will date and marry but anime is more likely to even have romantic siblings, this is a really horrible example. I remember kids' show Card Captor Sakura has canon cousin couples and shows like Utena that aren't for that old of an audience canonically have several sibling couple including one that is confirmed to have sex with only the most explicit parts actually censored but otherwise the sibling sex is obliquely shown onscreen.
All the cousin couples in CCS are unrequited actually. Though nobody bat's an eye as it seems in CCS "love is love" be it between two guys, two cousins or a male teacher and his 10 year old female student. Except lesbians, lesbians get shit
>Chris Niosi
The irony is that his replacement in the matsu series is equally obnoxious, as if the role itself is cursed. And the dub was terrible anyway.
>using the parody fat loser Mega Man from Street Fighter X Tekken as an earnest example
These people for real?
Methinks he's vastly overestimating Roll.
>TriggerXRoll
Tronne is Mega's bae, and you can't convince me otherwise.
And it's really a Bad example, they are the same characters but the series are so vastly different from the Main one
It's been a while but I don't remember any romantic tease between Trigger and Roll un legends, and in the game we're they do end "Married and having a child", they are both computer programs in a series vastly diferent from the original, with designs also different from the Main series, wild things like Megaman being the deceased twin of the main character... yeah that was diferent enough to be it's own thing as to not raise too many eyebrows with it's RockxRoll ship, unlike the Tiny Toons reboot
Second game they ramp it up with a bit of a love triangle teasing between the three, with Tronne trying to drive a wedge between the two of them for romantic reasons and it being clear she has some feelings for him.
Three of those are basically "friends" and maybe I'm not an expert in Megaman lore but aren't they robots? They can't ever be blood related like they did here
The only ones out of them in a "family" is Classic and Legends. Light built Rock and Roll and he sees them as his kids and they see him as a dad. In Legends, Roll's grandfather find Mega while on a dig and adopts him. The top right image in that post is Megaman.exe and Roll.exe, two characters from an entirely different universe in the Megaman franchise, they absolutely have NO familiar connection to each other in anyway and even have a kid made from their data.
>In Legends, Roll's grandfather find Mega while on a dig and adopts him.
And since they're not related they're gonna frick at some point. Because that's how Japs roll.
That’s because Megaman runs under Multiverse rules so it’s easy to accept each is different:
>top left they are robots built by Dr Light, Roll to be a housemaid and Rock to hunt robot masters
>top right they are computer programs who are paired up with humans in the real world like a Digimon/Pokemon deal
>bottom left, Roll is human and Volnutt is some weird ancient robot who can also age like a human
>bottom right is literally a parody version where he’s human
That shit doesn’t fly here because the reboot just seems to be a time skip, not a different dimension with rule changes
>That shit doesn’t fly here because the reboot just seems to be a time skip, not a different dimension with rule changes
I think it's stranger, in a way. The continuity was always weird, there was a lot of fourth wall breaking and the story and everything doesn't necessarily carry from one episode to the next. A lot of old episode cartoon shows and shorts didn't really have much of a "canon," think of really old Looney Tunes shorts, where characters kept meeting each other for the first time over and over again. I can't remember now if there were things that happened in one episode of Tiny Toons that ever got brought up again, you could probably watch it in any order.
But the fact that they didn't used to try to even make it clear that each episode was in the same "universe" or had a continuing storyline to begin with almost makes it harder to separate them. With those anime it's clear there's a multiverse thing with different continuities with old western animation there kind of is no canon or continuity a lot to begin with. The original Tiny Toons talked about them being actors on Tiny Toons a lot.
I mean, the bottom left one is from long after technology existed to merge humans and robots into a single species (Albeit he was built by human purists who rejected that and fled to space), so him being a bio-organic robot would be pretty easy to accept.
I mean, Roll is also a bio-organic robot there too, since all the people are "Carbons" and not true humans (hence all the ancient robots trying to fulfill their programming to genocide the planet and reclone humanity proper)
Rock and Roll being siblings is from the start you Dumpster Frick.
Hey so can we get a Gravity Falls reboot where the mystery twins aren't related and make out? It's a new continuity, so there's no reason to find it weird.
You just fricking know they're gonna have Lola be in this show for Babs.
That would be interesting
Is Charlie Adler still butthurt he wasn't invited back? Especially after he threw a tantrum and left the OG show?
He wished them well.
This just in: Fifi OFFICIALLY confirmed for Asexual. No longer interested on chasing anyone.
Also, Max now a dirt poor trailer trash trump supporter. Plucky is trans? Sure why not
>Max now a dirt poor trailer trash trump supporter.
Gonna need a source on that.
You tourists really will believe anything
That's why I said "gonna need a source on that".
because it sounds like horseshit that someone just made up.
And you're a newbie that can't tell the difference between blatant joking while being so helpless you need someone else to confirm things than look it up yourself
We have them making Buster and babs twins anon, I don't think much is off the table for this new crew.
THATS the part you need a source on? You didn't read the sentence
>Plucky is trans? Sure why not
And immediately realize it's a shit post?
I think the worst part of kids these days watching mostly tictok is the fact they can no longer read posts Tone. In the old days just simple phrasing differences would tell if the guy is being funny or serious or extremely mad but now says everyone has posting autism and read everything as a literal statement of fact.
Why Max would become a Trump supporter when he can become Trump himself? It's just following the original show
You know, its funny, outside the name, Max has NOTHING in common with yosemite apart from being an butthole.
Yosemite was a crazy gun redneck outlaw and came off as being kind of poor.
Max is just a rich b***h of a kid.
At least elmyra has the "hunting animals" thing, albeit for different reasons (To have as a pet)
>outside the name, Max has NOTHING in common with yosemite apart from being an butthole.
I like the more creative departures from classic Looney Tunes like Max. Him being a wealthy butthole was a great hook for a villain.
On t hat note, I think one of the things that made Fifi so likeable was that they focused more on her being looking for romance, rather than the "Grab and physically molest someone" angle of pepe, outside of her first episode with furball.
It kind of gave her a little more depth and ways to relate to the other girls to kind of show her as a lonely girl who was just wanting an emotional attachment.
They definitely played Fifi for sympathy, and yeah, it works for her. People naturally have more sympathy for a female character anyways. If they pulled that with Pepe he'd probably get more spite than anything for crying all "woe is me," so I'm not sure that route was even really available to him.
Where the behind the scenes drama leak?
At this point, I can only hope the TTA reboot gets Warner Bros. to finally release the specials on home video.
Anal with Fifi
sounds dangerous.
I'm listening.
There is only 3 reasons for her to be lifting her tail at you anon, and you want to make sure that you pick the first one, because choosing the second will lead to the third.
Have some Sweetie bullying Furrball, Nagatoro style.
If that's a thing in the show, I might forgive the twincest. Maybe.
Problem is, nagatoro looks cute, sweetie here looks like an unholy gremlin.
Different strokes for different folks.
Great art, OP worthy
Eh, if we're going for bullying/sexual abuse of furball, fifi does it better for him.
Anon, anon. Everyone can have fun bullying furball. They can take turns. They can even team up against him.
>Fifi saves furball from Sweetie belle at the end of the episode
>She only saves him so she can rape him herself
Fifi torments him in a different way. With Sweetie you're able to go full-on "that b***h crazy" in a way you can't with Fifi.
this is also what i want. Bully love from those two
Yes to all of this
>Sweetie literally shoves her head in his mouth
>"WHAT'RE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT, HUH?!?"
>Fluffball breaks down crying
>Everyone implying Sweetie is going to stop at Furrball
She might go further, but there's no way he's not her favorite b***h.
For sure, though I could see her bullying the shit out of the other guys in the main friend group
I wouldn't mind if they permanently gave Furrball the ability to talk in the reboot. It was pretty weird that he couldn't in the original
Furball sold his voicebox for food.
Oh right.
Goddamn is Furrball just the most depressing character of all time?
Yes. Tom Ruegger hated him for some reason
Is Ruegger nice?
Seems like he wasn't invited back because he's a jerk
The Batman guys still all work for WB
He worked for WB for a decade and created 8 shows for them, if he was difficult to work with, he wouldn't have had that career. They just think of him as an old has-been.
He only did Spielberg stuff
Once they stopped he was out
And no other studio got him
>Got to make any rated PG show he wanted with insane creative freedom, but didn't get credited and only smaller circles knows he's the real creator
Would it be worth it
He also worked on Batman Beyond and Duck Dodgers. The most recent thing he's worked on is The 7D at Disney. Sherri Stoner, a Spielberg era writer, also worked on that show.
Spielberg wasn't involved in Taz Mania, Road Rovers, or Histeria. After WB he did Sushi Pack for DiC which is admittedly a "Who?" show for babies, but it had 52 episodes. After that he did Animalia for the Australians (40 episodes) and then Pac-Man and the Ghostly Adventures which was another 52 episodes. The last thing he did was The 7D for Disney which was 44 episodes.
Ruegger seems like the kind of guy who burned brightest early then decline
With his latest stuff I'm not sure he could come back to these shows and make a good show out of them. Surely better then Animaniacs 2020 but that's not saying much
That seemed to be the intent from the start as a kind of schaudenfraude, as after he's drawn he's booted out into an alley where it begins to rain and he has to live in a cardboard box. (strangely, he seems strangely happy with this).
By contrast, when he's getting booted into the alley, they show sweetie landing gently in a well kept nest.
They seemed to have caught on how douchey this was, as some later episodes treated him a little nicer, like having him get a happy ending and Sweetie being punished, or having him just follow the others as a generic nice guy.
Furball's problem is that the generic "nice guy" role for the party is filled by Hampton already, so he has to fall back on some other intercharacter chemistry.
Its because he's not just sylverster, he's penelope as well (Hence why he's treated as being a nice guy). And penelope was mute.
Buster and Babs are siblings
Predict what they'll do with the other characters
Also siblings.
They are the actual children of the respective Looney Tunes
Sweetie and Furrball will live with a character called Big Mama. Granny's daughter
>Big Mama
Plucky and Shirley are also siblings and are Daffy's children. All of the other characters are also the Looney Tune's childred.
The series is a brutal unflinching look at nepotism in Hollywood today.
I'm kidding but wouldn't that be fricking awesome since it'd be completely honest and accurate for once.
The only way the twin thing could be more awkward is if they also pulled a Rescue Rangers and had the original be a show within this show.
I so want the fanfic where Bugs makes the twin siblings kiss on camera or will fail them
>I so want the fanfic where Bugs makes the twin siblings kiss on camera or will fail them
This is the only thing out of this whole spitballing I want because it's fricking hilarious and actually in-character for trickster Bugs not this nicey-nicey shit, he would totally do that just because it's funny "Ain't I a stinker?"
>Speaking this thought into the world
You're meddling with forces you do not understand.
I could see that but that'd make the twin thing even more gross.
Also Tiny Toons was already really meta anyway, they already basically had the premise that they knew they were on a show called Tiny Toons and were acting, the first episode was all of the characters literally getting drawn for the first time into existence to be on a show. Making meta of meta is...it's weird. Rescure Rangers wasn't a meta show making meta TTA involved ????????? overwriting the show's already meta meta where they are already actors and maybe also really going to school while also knowing they are drawn carton characters aaaaaghhh
I will still always love my autistic daughter
Tell your autistic daughter to stop fricking your autistic son.
Calling it now
>Plucky/Hampton will be the Bert/Ernie gay couple that isn't vocal about it, but pretty much everyone knows.
>Babs will probably be an independant girl focused on attaining her degree at "looniversity" and doesn't need a relationship.
There's a few more images shown that no one has leaked yet and that one podcast is trying to slowly leak out for some reason
Here's one of the teasers they did with new art
>Implying people will talk about any aspect of the show beyond the incest.
They've Become Tiny Toons: Sisterfrick University.
Don't know how this relates to posting concept art but ok
I really wonder what the execs response will be when they try and push Sweetie uber hard and nobody likes her.
They simply use her less in season 2 or 3, has happened before.
If she's just punkish and not a c**t I don't think she'll be hated. But it's just interesting she's now straight up a main on par with the other 4
This Means Podcast
What podcast?
This Means Podcast, they're the ones who took the pictures from SDCC
New Sweetie looks like a Scrappy Doo waiting to happen
She's a forced character nobody liked or asked for to be a main character.
The weird thing is she just does not fit in the friend group with the others. The others are really dorky theater kids and she's coming off like some punk kid who doesn't give a shit, and those ones just never get along.
There's a chance she's written ok and it's not bothersome. Now if she's dating Babs, that's when she'll be the most hated Scrappy out there.
>The others are really dorky theater kids and she's coming off like some punk kid who doesn't give a shit, and those ones just never get along.
>There's a chance she's written ok and it's not bothersome.
Yes it doesn't seem to work now but of course none of it has aired yet so it could work to be fair really well who knows. I'm just skeptical. Her original character was always kind of a sour note, a female butthole is a great idea but she was just a little bit too one note even for that, and I can't really explain it but she just didn't work while Babs was shown as an butthole sometimes but she worked, I think Sweetie was just underdeveloped. But she doesn't fit with the group and the punk tough girl now I don't see how she'll fit in especially if we're supposed to see her as cooler than all of the other main characters, that will get incredibly annoying really fast. If she's always bailing them out and rolling her eyes at them and so much cooler.
People forget WHY we hated Scrappy.
The whole "there's a new character that BELIEVES in Scooby and tries to drag uncle Scoob into danger that Scoob wants nothing to do with" angle was OKAY as a basis for the occasional joke. The problem was that it WASN'T the OCCASIONAL joke, that dynamic ended up taking over the whole show. Most of the cast was gone, "Scrappy gets Scooby into trouble and Scoob can't say anything because the kid looks up to him" became the dominant joke.
Whatever they do with her I don't think she'll end up a Scrappy, because I just can't see her taking over the show.
>because I just can't see her taking over the show.
I mean I hope not and I can't either but then I never saw them making Babs and Buster twin siblings coming from a million miles away either, But I hope not.
You sort of raise a good point, but at the same time I'd argue that it also goes to show that she can't become the Scrappy. Scrappy ruined Scooby Doo, which had a great dynamic until he took over the show. Here they managed to frick up the dynamic right at the start by making Buster and Babs into siblings. You can't kill a stillborn show.
Whatever you were trying to do there was clear in your head, I'm sure.
>because I just can't see her taking over the show
>"Hey bro meet my new girlfriend Sweetie"
Then she's Scrappy
Animaniacs Returns: Some cast do not return, slight changes in design, some of the countries in Wakko's World are no longer accurate.
Tiny Toons Returns: Turns the fandom into an incest fandom overnight.
New thread when this one archives is obvious
Remember that mods don't like it when you make incest the OP topic. Even though most of the thread will be about how they managed to make an incest cartoon in 2022.
There's a TT thread up so we're good using that one
But a good reminder for everyone else when future threads are made