Highly recommend the TV series as well. The israelites at Netflix canned it after 1 season, but it's easily the best thing that platform ever produced. Jim Henson would be proud of the work his children put into the show.
I will always be somewhat pissed that Netflix canned this before it had a chance at a second season. It would have been less expensive to make since all the puppets and props were made already.
It was too based for them, even with their "minimum 2 prominent lgbt character" quota bullshit with that one characters 2 dads. First half was better than the second half though.
Idiot. They are both awful. The acting was atrocious. Their expressions were totally wooden. And the fight scenes were hilariously awkward. And they keep bobbing up and down when they walk.
>le girl power
who corrupts them and causes them to blindly push the Gelflings into the Skeses' claws? >le gay gelfling fathers
who appears in a total of two scenes?
I can't really argue solely because I love the dark crystal. I feel the show did a great job of emulating hensons world and style. The movie was a bit "darker" imo, but if israeliteflix didn't shitcan it I'm sure s2 would've had the more darker aspects.
The film is good but the story's scope is obviously limited by the technology of the time. I thought the show realized the setting more fully. The graphic novels were also good. Dark Crystal has very rich worldbuilding.
But I'm a fan of both for different reasons. I have similar feelings towards Star Wars. I prefer the simplicity of the original 1977 movie over Empire which is usually everyone's favorite of that trilogy. But then I also enjoy the worldbuilding the prequels added.
Yea it's good.
It's a perfect fantasy film, and to some degree shows you how movies COULD be art, but will never be because of the financial constraint and the desperate need to tell widely pleasing stories holding it back.
The Dark Crystal is one of the most mature fantasy movies ever made, in that the world truly feels like some forgotten chapter of history somewhere in the universe instead of a mere story.
It captures the magic of fantasy worlds you only encountered in books, or maybe not even, but the fantasy worlds that existed in your head as a kid before you learned to read and got your impression of things from borrowed snippets here and there, half-formed hazy thoughts or memories, or those illustrated children's books from before the '00s that depicted fantasy lands.
Also the movie is better than the TV series. The TV series is better in many ways but it follows a generic formula of storytelling. It certainly fleshes out the world and adds a lot of lore, but it lacks the same air of mythic grandeur as the movie.
it would have been too jarring. henson was up his own ass with that shit, but it does explain why chamberlain talks that way, he not used to speaking the gelfing language
same, i actually saw some camrip footage of the opening years ago on dailymotion i think. the death of the skeksis king scene works way better if you don't understand the dialogue and you have to guess.
the film and the series are complementary. they are two visions of the same world and two visions of the same art.
the film is contemplative because it has a film budget. it has long slow panoramas and huge very detailed settings because the Gelfling puppets are still a bit shoddy and the puppeteer is hard to conceal. for the first time the puppet lives in the settings instead of merely being in front of it. the plot is mostly symbolic, the film shows the world.
the series was made on a series' budget. it cannot be contemplative. so they did the complete opposite. the camera always moves, it turns and turns everywhere to give life to the puppets, because VFX allows to remove the puppeteer in all situations. for the first time the puppet lives with the camera, instead of merely being in front of it. the plot is mostly worldbuilding, the series tells the world.
Why was the Dark Crystal Rap universally acclaimed by both old time fans of the franchise and newcomers yet the Show Age of Resistance failed to gain any traction and was cancelled after just one season?
Netflix did a bad job of marketing to general audiences because they made it look like a baby show for toddlers in the trailers. They didn't even hint at some of the darker themes and scenes that might entice an adult or teenager to watch the show.
>failed to gain any traction
it literally won an award. Netflix claims it wasn't successful but all reports says the cancellation was mostly caused by internal wars within Netflix. the series having low views is most probably a plain lie to justify the cancellation after-hand.
Probably Netflix not wanting to spend too much money on a franchise that belonged to Disney.
Also while to as bad as it could have been it was pretty lame how yet again male characters were mostly depicted as weaklings that needed to be rescued by women all the time.
>failed to gain any traction
it literally won an award. Netflix claims it wasn't successful but all reports says the cancellation was mostly caused by internal wars within Netflix. the series having low views is most probably a plain lie to justify the cancellation after-hand.
Specifically it was a case of the Netflix executive that greenlit the show being replaced by someone else that cancelled it to get rid of anything their predecessor made like a male lion killing the cubs of the lion it usurped.
Netflix did a bad job of marketing to general audiences because they made it look like a baby show for toddlers in the trailers. They didn't even hint at some of the darker themes and scenes that might entice an adult or teenager to watch the show.
>failed to gain any traction
it literally won an award. Netflix claims it wasn't successful but all reports says the cancellation was mostly caused by internal wars within Netflix. the series having low views is most probably a plain lie to justify the cancellation after-hand.
Shit I just remembered a animated movie or tv show with a similar name, there was sailing and a black ship or sea. Anyone remember the name? I watched it 100 times on a VHS 25 years ago please help me with my nostalgia fuel
Everything in that movie is great except the fricking awful Gelfling puppets which can't give even the slightest illusion of life and completely ruin it. If the skeksis had been the villains of a movie without shitty gelfling puppets they'd be completely iconic, Augra would be also. Instead normal people see a gelfing and get grossed out and that's it
>Another parallel we see with Aughra aside from the Anima Mundi / Earth Goddess is that of Odin. Aughra is non-binary in her gender and perhaps even third sex. While Aughra obviously has breasts and the shape of a Willendorf Mother Goddess, Aughra’s also bearded and has male ram horns. Aughra’s also described as being all genders in the Dark Crystal works. Aughra’s more male aspects seem to be more in alignment with the Norse deity Odin, the supreme deity and “All Father.”
I watched this for the first time recently, I have to say I was quite taken with it as wel. In the same way The Fifth Element took a lot from Sci-fi BDs, TDC reminded me of fantasy BDs.
it is a masterpiece. Jim Henson was ahead of his time. There has been nothing in the decades since to rival that film. I seriously doubt there will ever be comparable puppet kinos ever created. The world is a worse place without Jim Henson in it.
I put this on with a friend like ten years ago in high school when we were surfing Netflix one day, but we ended up turning it off. I should give this one another try. I never watched the show either.
Hmmmm?
Highly recommend the TV series as well. The israelites at Netflix canned it after 1 season, but it's easily the best thing that platform ever produced. Jim Henson would be proud of the work his children put into the show.
Been meaning to watch it, but haven't got my hands on a 4K HDR tracker yet.
It was never streamed in 4K or HDR so you'll be waiting until the end of time.
I will always be somewhat pissed that Netflix canned this before it had a chance at a second season. It would have been less expensive to make since all the puppets and props were made already.
It was too based for them, even with their "minimum 2 prominent lgbt character" quota bullshit with that one characters 2 dads. First half was better than the second half though.
Idiot. They are both awful. The acting was atrocious. Their expressions were totally wooden. And the fight scenes were hilariously awkward. And they keep bobbing up and down when they walk.
No soul.
Yeah. Its made to be soulful but the acting and ugliness ruins it. Shit film, shit show.
Still gonna show it to my kids when they old enough though. Kids loves puppets
Human-Gelfling hybrids after passionate breeding sessions
Looks like awkwafina
>And they keep bobbing up and down when they walk
Seek. Still gets me.
I actually like the series more
>le girl power and le gay gelfling fathers show
>le girl power
who corrupts them and causes them to blindly push the Gelflings into the Skeses' claws?
>le gay gelfling fathers
who appears in a total of two scenes?
Wasn't it the queen who was being controlled by the skeksis? And why would a Gelfling clan on the verge of extinction need two gay dudes?
the show is better honestly
Why?
I can't really argue solely because I love the dark crystal. I feel the show did a great job of emulating hensons world and style. The movie was a bit "darker" imo, but if israeliteflix didn't shitcan it I'm sure s2 would've had the more darker aspects.
Now I'm annoyed all over again.
the movie barely has a plot, it's all world building and is basically set in a post apocalypse
>the movie barely has a plot
You're dumb.
Not the anon but the plot is pretty thin
>Jen has to unite shard with crystal in time for great conjunction
>Skeksis don't want him to do that
The plot is thin in most movies. Dark Crystal is very rich thematically.
>the plot is straightforward, easy to understand, and compelling
>somehow this is a bad thing
I hate midwits so much it's unreal.
The film is good but the story's scope is obviously limited by the technology of the time. I thought the show realized the setting more fully. The graphic novels were also good. Dark Crystal has very rich worldbuilding.
But I'm a fan of both for different reasons. I have similar feelings towards Star Wars. I prefer the simplicity of the original 1977 movie over Empire which is usually everyone's favorite of that trilogy. But then I also enjoy the worldbuilding the prequels added.
Better that the show got canned before it got ruined.
>watching a children's show
emotionally and mentally immature piglets all of you
>children's shows are bad because.... WELL BECAUSE THEY JUST ARE!
children's shows are not bad, brain-damaged brainlet, children's shows are for children, incontinent imbecile
Calm down Captain Haddock.
Why are you acting like a child
He asks on Cinemaphile
Most Cinemaphile users are 13 years old now.
certainly explains the level of dialog, or rather lack of it
anon, they frick
>children's show
hook nosed demons suck life-force out of child-like elves.
If only adult fiction was this unflinching in it's gaze.
>puppet show
No Black folk.
>adult show
Black folk.
i think its my most watched movie
Yea it's good.
It's a perfect fantasy film, and to some degree shows you how movies COULD be art, but will never be because of the financial constraint and the desperate need to tell widely pleasing stories holding it back.
The Dark Crystal is one of the most mature fantasy movies ever made, in that the world truly feels like some forgotten chapter of history somewhere in the universe instead of a mere story.
It captures the magic of fantasy worlds you only encountered in books, or maybe not even, but the fantasy worlds that existed in your head as a kid before you learned to read and got your impression of things from borrowed snippets here and there, half-formed hazy thoughts or memories, or those illustrated children's books from before the '00s that depicted fantasy lands.
Also the movie is better than the TV series. The TV series is better in many ways but it follows a generic formula of storytelling. It certainly fleshes out the world and adds a lot of lore, but it lacks the same air of mythic grandeur as the movie.
i can only wish they let Henson have all the dialogue be in a made up language with no subtitles, that would have been even better
it would have been too jarring. henson was up his own ass with that shit, but it does explain why chamberlain talks that way, he not used to speaking the gelfing language
same, i actually saw some camrip footage of the opening years ago on dailymotion i think. the death of the skeksis king scene works way better if you don't understand the dialogue and you have to guess.
Without understandable dialogue we wouldn't have pure kino like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLbTkmLt6kw
the film and the series are complementary. they are two visions of the same world and two visions of the same art.
the film is contemplative because it has a film budget. it has long slow panoramas and huge very detailed settings because the Gelfling puppets are still a bit shoddy and the puppeteer is hard to conceal. for the first time the puppet lives in the settings instead of merely being in front of it. the plot is mostly symbolic, the film shows the world.
the series was made on a series' budget. it cannot be contemplative. so they did the complete opposite. the camera always moves, it turns and turns everywhere to give life to the puppets, because VFX allows to remove the puppeteer in all situations. for the first time the puppet lives with the camera, instead of merely being in front of it. the plot is mostly worldbuilding, the series tells the world.
Is it weird that I formed a crush on Kira
Yes.
🙁
Why was the Dark Crystal Rap universally acclaimed by both old time fans of the franchise and newcomers yet the Show Age of Resistance failed to gain any traction and was cancelled after just one season?
Netflix did a bad job of marketing to general audiences because they made it look like a baby show for toddlers in the trailers. They didn't even hint at some of the darker themes and scenes that might entice an adult or teenager to watch the show.
>failed to gain any traction
it literally won an award. Netflix claims it wasn't successful but all reports says the cancellation was mostly caused by internal wars within Netflix. the series having low views is most probably a plain lie to justify the cancellation after-hand.
i don't watch robot chicken, it's just pop culture family gay
Probably Netflix not wanting to spend too much money on a franchise that belonged to Disney.
Also while to as bad as it could have been it was pretty lame how yet again male characters were mostly depicted as weaklings that needed to be rescued by women all the time.
Specifically it was a case of the Netflix executive that greenlit the show being replaced by someone else that cancelled it to get rid of anything their predecessor made like a male lion killing the cubs of the lion it usurped.
Didn't a bunch of their puppets burn?
I wouldn't be surprised, Netflix is fricking evil and hates real art.
the puppets were saved. only some sets were damaged.
and even if the puppets had burned they still had the moulds to make new copies.
Shit I just remembered a animated movie or tv show with a similar name, there was sailing and a black ship or sea. Anyone remember the name? I watched it 100 times on a VHS 25 years ago please help me with my nostalgia fuel
Pirates of Dark Water?
I miss this little homie like you wouldn't believe.
Everything in that movie is great except the fricking awful Gelfling puppets which can't give even the slightest illusion of life and completely ruin it. If the skeksis had been the villains of a movie without shitty gelfling puppets they'd be completely iconic, Augra would be also. Instead normal people see a gelfing and get grossed out and that's it
Yikes?
Strong female characters done right
aughra's non-binary
>Another parallel we see with Aughra aside from the Anima Mundi / Earth Goddess is that of Odin. Aughra is non-binary in her gender and perhaps even third sex. While Aughra obviously has breasts and the shape of a Willendorf Mother Goddess, Aughra’s also bearded and has male ram horns. Aughra’s also described as being all genders in the Dark Crystal works. Aughra’s more male aspects seem to be more in alignment with the Norse deity Odin, the supreme deity and “All Father.”
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/matauryn/2018/12/31/the-mysticism-spirituality-occultism-of-the-dark-crystal/
>ram horns
>beard
>breasts
>third eye
I never actually noticed this before, frick me...
I watched this for the first time recently, I have to say I was quite taken with it as wel. In the same way The Fifth Element took a lot from Sci-fi BDs, TDC reminded me of fantasy BDs.
I downloaded this yesterday for some reason
i download movies all the time just because i can and then they just sit there because i don't have any friends to watch them with
Nothin' wrong with watching a movie alone.
it is a masterpiece. Jim Henson was ahead of his time. There has been nothing in the decades since to rival that film. I seriously doubt there will ever be comparable puppet kinos ever created. The world is a worse place without Jim Henson in it.
I put this on with a friend like ten years ago in high school when we were surfing Netflix one day, but we ended up turning it off. I should give this one another try. I never watched the show either.
>ywn see based Garthim master btfo the gelflings
I miss them.