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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why did they give free will and control for a holodeck program?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because they want to remind Quark who has the biggest balls and pays for his rent

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He had no more will than any other holodeck program. He did have self awareness, but because he was programmed to act like a nightclub singer, he acted like a nightclub singer.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What made him so based?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Good actor and good writing.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Marc Alaimo was actually too good, Combs and Robinson were the only actors who could keep up with him.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Bullshit. All of Alaimo's best scenes were with Visitor.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Based. Tomboy Terrorist was undefeatable

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I am immensely sexually attracted to Nana Visitor both then AND now and I can agree I like how feisty Kira is but I don't like the Odo love subplot

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >but I don't like the Odo love subplot
              it doesn't seem all that believable either
              what woman goes for sexually and socially incompetent autist like Odo

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >but I don't like the Odo love subplot
              So you don't like DS9? Because that's like half the episodes

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                no DS9 is my favorite, I can accept an Odo love subplot every so often if I get the rest of it

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >an Odo love subplot
                >inb4 "they're called minis"
                he should have ended up with lwaxana

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                lwaxana is too much to handle for more than a guest appearance every few seasons

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                lwaxana is the baddest b***h in trek and should be celebrated

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's really funny that the writers hated how much people loved the character

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >it's a Sysco jr episode
    >it's a Quark jr episode
    >it's a Worf jr episode
    All trash

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Get some taste, gaygo.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Jake episodes are all trash other than The Visitor, which is one of the best trek episodes of all time. Nog gets better as it goes along. Worf's son is irredeemable trash, yes. I think he only has one appearence in DS9 thankfully.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        you take that back

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Wtf were the writer’s thinking during this episode?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >everyone took naked mud baths with their dad's coworker's mom when they were kids, right?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I liked “In the Cards”

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Quark Jr.? You mean Nog? The Red Squad episode was kinda cool though.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Jake episodes are kino
      Nog episodes are especially kino
      Worfs son episodes are piss and shit

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >raised by single parent
      >does badly at school
      >thieves, always in trouble with the law
      >Called Nog
      What did they mean by this?

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, but it also ruined the franchise.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's not Discovery

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        2009 Star Trek ruined the franchise.

        Why?

        DS9 contains all the DNA of nu-Trek, it's serialized, character driven and cynical in the same way.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Star Trek isn’t character driven
          homie wat

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >DS9 contains all the DNA of nu-Trek, it's serialized, character driven and cynical in the same way.
          you lack sufficient perspective to tell them apart, they're very distinct from each other

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >they're very distinct from each other
            One had a very torrid gay romance and the other has stamets and culber

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      2009 Star Trek ruined the franchise.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        2009 Star Trek almost resuscitated the franchise, but Paramount didn't convert their momentum into a new TV series in a timely fashion. JJ's Star Trek looked fantastic, sounded fantastic and was a hell of a lot of fun and could've been the springboard for a whole new era, but they sat on their hands and the moment passed.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          jewisraelite trek was slop catering to normies

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Your an idiot

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No it didn't. Most Trek movies ruined the franchise. There are some exceptions in TOS, but all the TNG movies were slop. JJ didn't invent ruining Trek. By that point, it was expected.

        I'd ALMOST make a case for Insurrection, because at least it made a grudging attempt to do something closer to an actual episode plot instead of popcorn eater butter substitute schlock, but it only got about halfway there and the whole design was bland as frick. All the borg/romulan movie shit can tongue my anus.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not him but he's kinda right.
        DS9 is what people call a 'deconstruction' of TNG. And the conclusions it arrives at are usually at odds with TNG.

        Iirc DS9 introduced concepts that were discordant with and subversive to the ideals set forth in TNG. Things like Section 31, a morally grey black ops division that would use covert underhanded tactics to get ahead of rivals. Such things are antithetical to the ethos of TNG, and in the long run, helped slowly erode the high-minded values of TNG.

        I love both TNG and DS9, but I consider them to be opposing views on the future. I and most everyone, would prefer TNG's future, though DS9's is probably more realistic.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Even as altruistic as TNG tried to be, they still showed that Starfleet higher ups were mostly buttholes and incompetent clowns. It was really only the Enterprise crew(and those in similar positions) that push-ed the high minded value stuff. The shift that seems to happen in DS9 isnt that out of left field, just more of admitting the truth.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Nah, I mean the incompetent clowns in high positions in TNG were always meant to be the outliers. Like the admiral? that walked out of the hearing in The Drumhead was presumably competent.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Except that every other admiral was just like that. Even that tiny b***haev.
              TNG subverted itself with captains like Maxwell and Jellico.
              People just justify ds9 hatred as rational because it doesnt pretend to be all fuzzy wuzzy

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Jellico
                Jellico was shown to be completely competent.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                ...Thats the fricking point
                TNG had captains like Jellico and Maxwell that were COMPLETELY justified in their attitudes and actions, meanwhile DS9 had characters like Admiral Leyton, or Tom Riker, or Eddington. Misguided idealists that also acted for "the greater good" and were proven wrong, but people always focus on Section 31

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No I mean Jellico did nothing wrong at all. He outplayed the enemy without betraying federation ideals.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >without betraying federation ideals.
                Is having a clandestine operation where you illegally send a decorated flag officer.(Picard) into sovereign territory, and disavowing him when he gets caught an example of utopian Federation ideals? Jellico was part of that. It's excellent realpolitik but not "Federation ideals."

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >The shift that seems to happen in DS9 isnt that out of left field
            It's also because they were at war with the Dominion, why do so many TNG homosexuals not get this?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            thats one of the reasons why most who apply to starfleet dont give a shit about admiralty but just want to be captains in command that and the cool ships.

            Phasers aren't even the most horrific thing.
            Transporter technology is.
            You could quietly murder entire armies by beaming them into space.
            Or anyone can show up behind you at all times.

            or directly into a enemy encampment like in the second? double parter with the racist bajoran government

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Nah, I mean the incompetent clowns in high positions in TNG were always meant to be the outliers. Like the admiral? that walked out of the hearing in The Drumhead was presumably competent.

            It's interesting how it all evolved, really. TNG season 1, and to a slightly lesser degree 2, operating by Gene's Vision of an advanced, enlightened human race, essentially "higher beings", as models of what we could be once all our savage animalistic tendencies and greeds could be ironed out. And like any best laid plan of mice and men, it didn't quite work the way it was hoped. A noble idea, but it was wooden and stilted and not terribly well received. By season 3, and with the (genuinely sad) passing of Gene, the Enterprise cast became remarkably more human, warm, flawed (just enough) to be relatable. But that "enlightened" state carried on; they were still meant to represent the highest ideals of humanity, so it wouldn't do to just turn them all into bickering scheming soap opera characters. So the antagonist roles had to be played by outsiders to the usual crew,
            and as a result all those "these out of touch admirals don't really know what's going on" scenarios were a naturally fit. It just worked.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            My headcanon is that once you make Admiral, you get pulled into briefings with Section 31 and get fed massive redpills on a regular basis. Its why we get movies/episodes with admirals who have lost their shit. Starship captains are still naive and still buy into Federation propaganda.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          DS9 was holding a candle or a spotlight up to the federation and the vision of the future set forth in the high-minded TNG Star Trek. Does every detail hold up to scrutiny? Can the values set forth by the federation survive in deep space? Where do they bend and stretch? How far do the people of the federation have to go to protect them? What happens to the people out there like Ferengi or Maquis who hold dissident views and opinions to the federation dogma?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The people who ruined Star Trek barely even know that DS9 exists and most of them have never watched it, if anything the popularity of shows like Breaking Bad and The Sopranos ruined StarTrek.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    its mostly decent but the last season is some of the worst television ever produced

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Think you meant ENTERPRISE.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        no enterprises last season was by far the best, the last episode was a bad concept and insulting to the crew and fans but it wasnt as god awful as DS9 with mysty eyed music over montages of old scenes of interactions between the crew like it was a a day time soap.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They don't trek anywhere.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      but many ships trek there

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They actually Trek to the gamma quadrant several times thougheverbeit.

      Jake episodes are all trash other than The Visitor, which is one of the best trek episodes of all time. Nog gets better as it goes along. Worf's son is irredeemable trash, yes. I think he only has one appearence in DS9 thankfully.

      Not true at all, the episodes where Jake and Nog have to trade away 5000 packets of Yamok sauce and the one where they try to secure the Willie Mays card are both great, not to mention the one where he gets stuck with Bashir during a battle with the Dominion.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    in the pale moonlight is some of the best tv US has produced

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >best trek is just a blatant ripoff of another carefully planned show they literally stole everything from

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      And Babylon 5 ripped off half it's premise from Star Trek anyway so I'd say they're even.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Bb5babbies eternally coping.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >best trek is just a blatant ripoff of another carefully planned show
      that doesn't mean its bad, Star Wreck rips off both Star Trek and Babylon 5

      Trailer

      Full film

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I think B5 has a better story and writing than DS9 but I can’t rewatch it on repeat the same way I can with DS9. It’s almost always brooding and dramatic. It’s missing that fun and comfy factor

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I really dont understand how people say B5 had better writing, it had better moments but the whole thing is so incredibly tonally uneven and patchy. Like i think races like the Centauri (pseudo russians) and Narns (psuedo japs) are fairly lazy compared something like Cardassians, which have such a fricking vibe. Also the patchiness of the writing shines through in the like dozen or so random characters that appear for a series or even half a series and are never seen again. The psi-cop, the pilot, at least two interchangeable english elf guys (the psychic and the ranger) , it really suffers for the constant shuffle.

        I will say later ds9 blows when it becomes a full on war, it both feels really flat but also not momentus enough considering how big a deal the dominion war is supposed to be, B5 did war better (they also tried hard to ruin Dukat, but hes too alpha)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nope, troll harder. Not falling for it.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Unquestionably

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    so what happened to the /trek/ threads?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No One Participated™®

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        no one thinks you're funny dude

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Man WALKED out of paradise.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Go leave already and stop ruining our board

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I was referencing a TOS episode you Black person.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The poltard has revealed himself

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >open tab
            >check /trek/
            >it's paradise
            >walks out
            >closes tab
            How can one man be this based? Unlike Garrett Wang?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Anons in the last thread were discussing whether or not they should unite to get a /trek/ board but some bad actors disrupted negotiations with their endless cycles of violence.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Many anons in /trek/ have been stabbed in the back and are hesitant to join alliances.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's still too early

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >but some bad actors disrupted negotiations
        Leave Garrett Wang alone

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          As bad as he is he's still better than every human on Babylon 5.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Garrett Wang is the final boss. After we defeat him we will be free.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Garrett Wang is the final boss. After we defeat him we will be free.
            All we need then is a "work ethic" and the mystical Bene Tleilaxu art of "showing up to work on time" and we will prevail

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              what do you even gain by defending garrett wang like this?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Delta flyers frequent flyer miles, natch

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          is this the actor who didn't know his own characters race? and got bullied on twitter for it

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >He didn't know his characters race
            eh?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            He's just that lazy!

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Other way around. The actor knew that "Kim" is a Korean name, but Rick Berman thought it was Chinese.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >their endless cycles of violence
        They're called minis

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They're called minis

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            um actually sweaty they're called minbaris

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They're called minis

          >an Odo love subplot
          >inb4 "they're called minis"
          he should have ended up with lwaxana

          This feels like something CIA is posting to headquarters. "Repeat, in Trek news they're called minis. They're called minis. They're called minis. Over." Every fricking thread.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's just shitposters running an already h funny joke into the ground. The CIA runs Malaysian airplanes[*] into the ocean. Know the difference, it might save your life.
            which are called minis

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >This feels like something
            It's called a mini.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Damning.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            vf is behind most of the low quality posting in /trek/ and has several "personas". Star Trek related because Odo can shapeshift and often infiltrates various groups.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Deep Sleep 9
    >"the best"

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It is the most consistently good Star Trek.
    But TNG has better individual episodes.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The search results don’t support the claim that DS9 is the best trek.

    1. TNG has a better IMDB rating.
    2. TNG spawned multiple movies while DS9 has none.
    3. Other shows like Star Trek Voyager are more progressive with a female captain and more roles for women.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >2. TNG spawned multiple movies while DS9 has none.
      doesn't help the last tng movie kinda flopped

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Thats not progressive. That's ass-backwards.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >3. Other shows like Star Trek Voyager are more progressive with a female captain and more roles for women.
      >Roles like the crazy captain, the crazy alien woman, and the crazy hot borg chick

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >First season
    >Bajorans build a orbital cannon to drill out the core of a fully habitual moon
    >Destroy what amounts to a second homeworld
    >The reason is to provide heat for a few tens of thousands of houses
    >Drill costs hundreds of times more energy and resources than it provides
    >They have warp drives i.e antimatter reactors
    >A single runabout could power a continent
    >Federation goes along with this insane crime against nature

    Dukat should have killed them all.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      goes along with this insane crime against nature
      Hey don't judge the noble natives you bigot.

      To be fair I think they don't use antimatter reactors on planets due to the obvious hazard.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >due to the obvious hazard.
        very obvious, yes indeed

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They land runabouts all the time, they could have used that as a power source for a few months.

        The problem with DS9's early seasons were a complete misunderstanding of scale. TOS was on the level of a destroyer , TNG an aircraft carrier (and even then, with its complement would be woefully empty). The writers weren't used to station or planetary scales.

        The scale is moronic, a few hand phasers could have dug enough geothermal boreholes to provide the power they were talking about. A Galaxy Class could have replicated and transported enough solar cells in a few weeks.

        They destroyed a second habitable homeworld because the equivalent of a large town didn't want to be chilly for a few months and wasted several orders of magnitude more resources to do it than would be needed to deal with the problem in a rational manner.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >The scale is moronic, a few hand phasers could have dug enough geothermal boreholes to provide the power they were talking about. A Galaxy Class could have replicated and transported enough solar cells in a few weeks.
          The entire concept of Bajorans in camps could not operate at scale. It would have to be multi planetary subjugation, as one would see with the Narn and Centauri.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The problem with DS9's early seasons were a complete misunderstanding of scale. TOS was on the level of a destroyer , TNG an aircraft carrier (and even then, with its complement would be woefully empty). The writers weren't used to station or planetary scales.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Bajorans really are scum. The ones the audience is supposed to hate are bad enough, but the one's we're supposed to like are somehow even worse.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        His scene talking about how he reduced the labor camp quotas by 50% is kino

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    TNG S4-S7 is best Star Trek

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Are Starfleet Academy dorm rooms gender neutral?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Dorm rooms, bathrooms, showers all of it, man.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The has to be a way to opt out if your culture isn't comfortable with that. The Vulcan lady won't share a room with an Irish boozer.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Irish
          That's because bestiality is immoral in every culture.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Irish
            Why didn't he just drink himself to death?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Somehow, Khan has returned.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    He a jazzzzzzzzzzzz homie. He da Sisko jazzzzzzzzz homie.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    THE HIGHER
    THE FEWER

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It has no trekking, so frick no.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What are the best episodes?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The Changeling. All other answers are insufficient.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The Duet

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
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      Anonymous
  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How are we going to stop him?

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You chose the Wang day to pick a fight

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Past Tense take place today

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      bump

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No it doesn’t, shut up. Sisko won’t be beaming in until August 30th.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ds9 sucks

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I liked voyager more because of the hamminess

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ahem

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Voyager is better than Enterprise

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >TNG twice

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        ensign fricking moron

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      swap TOS with ENT and im on board.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >ywn seduce a Klingon woman and have her beat the shit out of you and your meat for days on end
    It’s so fricking over

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      kussy is stank af

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Anybody remember Jim’s Delta Blues? I started reading his reviews in the first season of Voyager. Or maybe the second. Somehow it’s still up.

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
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      Anonymous
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    Anonymous
  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Commander, tell me about your sexual organs.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's like a Pakled. Thicker than the average humanoid and incapable of making wise decisions.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      bump

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      omae wa mou shinde iru

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They're in space. Why are some of the crewmen filthy like they've been crawling around in the dirt?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They were fighting the borg at wolf 359.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        because ds9 is dark and gritty and grimey, the protagonists get their hands dirty

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        they're launching in escape pods because their ship is exploding, what do you expect?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The Federation is lucky that the Borg only sent one cube. Which gets to the issue that they, based on their response to the Dominion, don't seem to have actually learnt anything from the incident.

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I liked it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Based scene.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >i had to kill captain kirk because he made a mistake

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Now it's time to ERASE that mistake.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      TNG diehards who don't see how First Contact was good are fricking lame. They found a way to raise the emotional stakes and make a story that was worthy of a feature film. They made the Borg both a terrifying foe and a personal demon for Picard. Idc if you think it stretches the show's canon or devolved into just an action movie. This is one of my favorite scenes of the TNG cast.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >devolved into just an action movie
        This is exactly what happened, similar to TWOK, and both are excellent movies; but they scratch different itches than speculative sci-fi. To deny that is mendacious.

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It’s not Star Trek. Never was. It was Ira Behr’s middle finger to Roddenberry’s universe in which Humans have solved all their problems. Wake up.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No it wasn't. It was basically a show about humans who had solved all their problems being dropped into a situation with people who haven't solved their problems.

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's really fricking good.
    The only thing I can't stand are the few prophet-heavy episodes and the way they did dukat dirty in the latest seasons

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I can't stand are the few prophet-heavy episodes
      Even though I wouldn't say that the emissary plotline actually added much of value to the show, I did enjoy goofy shit like Quark arguing with the prophets and Sisko digging a hole in the middle of the desert. In fact, what the hell was up with that? It's practically two unconnected shows by season 7.

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They aren't even trekking in DS9 half the time

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      But when they DO trek they trek the farthest. To the gamma quadrant. Quality over quantity.

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This isn't Season 5 of Star Trek Discovery: Available online from Paramount+ where the sci-fi never stops!
    ------ End of rebuttal 45 ------

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >*Cries!*
      Anyway, in Trek News...yeah, I got nothing. When you lose MeFi, for frick's sake...

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Planet Stay: Space Mall Nine isn't even Star Trek.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What's your favorite shop on the Promenade? Mine's the jumja stick stand.

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If your taste is shit.

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >two hundred years post atomic horror
    >the mighty federation has risen from the ashes
    >technology advances exponentially
    >all citizens learn the history in school
    >utopia on earth
    >a device the size of a television remote control can instantly vaporize a human being into a fine mist with the simple press of a button

    what did they mean by this?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The Federation is pro 2nd amendment

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        it goes beyond that. the citizens of the federation live in constant fear of vaporization. it's why they are so compliant.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Phasers aren't even the most horrific thing.
      Transporter technology is.
      You could quietly murder entire armies by beaming them into space.
      Or anyone can show up behind you at all times.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Why even bother beaming them into space? You could delete their patterns once they got into the transporter.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          And as a bonus, your ship gets to absorb the energy equivalent of their materialized masses.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The enterprise and the crystalline entity are basically the same thing if you think about it.

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It alternates between being the best Star Trek and the worst Star Trek. Occasionally even within the same episode. TOS, excluding season 3, is better as a whole because that show alternates between being the best and being stupid fricking nonsense that is still really charming and funp

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I maintain that DS9 was necessary. People may not like it, but Star Trek would be ideologically incomplete without it.

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ds9 took a nosedive in quality (s6) when berman had to take full control of voy and could no longer rein behr in

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yea you could certainly tell he was the tard wrangler there

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Sometimes i feel embarrassed for liking DS9 just for it's association with koolaid beard man

  47. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    are abortions allowed in the federation

  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    When asked what their favorite Star Trek theme is, I feel like people just choose their favorite show. In reality, the Original Series has the best Star Trek theme, and it's ridiculous people don't acknowledge it as best.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There is certainly appeal to original theme. But that Jerry Goldsmith theme for the Motion Picture and later TNG is the best by a mile.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There is certainly appeal to original theme. But that Jerry Goldsmith theme for the Motion Picture and later TNG is the best by a mile.

      I've always been a fan of the TNG theme but somehow I think the TOS has more appeal. I've been surprised by my non-Trekkie friends and family who have expressed how much they liked the TOS themesong when they heard it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Horner's TWOK theme is best

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Not true. I dislike VOY but feel it had the best theme and opening sequence.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >AND I WILL SEE MY DREAM COME ALIVE AT LAST
      >I WILL TOUCH THE SKY
      >AND NO THEY'RE NOT GONNA HOLD ME DOWN NO MORE
      >NO THEY'RE NEVER GONNA CHANGE MY MIND
      >CAUSE I'VE GOT FAITH OF THE HEART

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
  49. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    JAM

  50. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    BA

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      JAM

      juice?

  51. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone have the meme of Picard laying in his bed telling the computer to release a toxic gas into Wesleys room?? I need that meme

  52. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
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      Anonymous
  53. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    nog is my favorite
    ODO SECOND
    R.I.P

  54. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    In watching some TNG and TOS I find myself enjoying TOS more so far, but that's just because I like the rougher edges on things and the whole Spock, Mccoy, and Kirk dynamic.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      TOS characters mog TNG. TOS 4 great characters with kirk, spock, bones, and scotty, while TNG's only great one is data. Most of the rest of the cast is good, but it still has some duds like cruser troi and I'm meh on picard. Plus TOS has the moronic computer voice which I love and never fails to make me laugh. TOS also has the first mover advantage of having fresh ideas in a genre that at the time was barely tapped, though even then some episodes were just twilight zone ideas expanded (probably outer limits too but I haven't got around to watching that yet)

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >TNG's only great one is data.
        didnt they make a whole race and religion around Wolf because of how popular he was? i mean i agree with you i just dont think thats how most people see it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I was debating on including him in great because he's the 2nd best character, but he's still not on the same level as the other 5. Klingons were around since TOS. Scotty's actor actually made up the baseline for the language for the 1st movie, which was further expanded to be a fully functional language. Worf does have the most screentime of any star trek character.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >in a genre that at the time was barely tapped
        “Barely tapped” if you’re limiting science fiction to just space exploration and/or are unfamiliar with Jack Kirby’s Fantastic Four
        (This isn’t to disparage TOS)

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I was talking about tv. I'm not a literal boomer so I'm unsure of what science fiction shows existed before TOS besides twilight zone or outer limits. I'm almost done with TNG so I'd actually like some recommendations I can go to next

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Are you familiar with Blake's 7

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's weird because tng has more sophisticated sci-fi plotlines yet somehow tos feels more like actual sci-fi put to screen

  55. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It’s pretty impressive that not a single major cast member from TNG has died yet.

  56. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Star Trek was always woke.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      please elaborate how tos was woke

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They hired a black woman to answer the phone. And the boss even gives her a smooch at some point.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          kirk was a colonist who wanted to breed as many exotic women that he could. Of course his secretary would have to be an exotic piece of ass. Even with a non chad captain going by current demographics blacks and asians make up 2/3rds of the world population (no idea how a eugincs war and ww3 would effect those numbers) so you'd figure there would be at least some on a starship that consisted of a united earth plus aliens. Also, the smooch was from mind control he could have just have easily been forced to instead have been forced to kiss the midget making it the first televised homosexual intermidgenonmidge kiss.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        For the 60s it was woke

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, DS9 went incredibly woke when Sisko built a wall of cloaked mines to stop Jem'Hadar migrants.

  57. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No

  58. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The whole dominion war story arc was exceptional.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No, that'd be TNG and everyone knows it.

      This is true. I felt bad for Damok (spelling?).

  59. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Frick no lol. The only people who liked DSN when that shit came out were fricking messenger bag wearing fricking drama kids who listened to NIN or whatever. The adults watched Babylon 5

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      sadly, this is how voyboys treated mallwalkers in the '90s

  60. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly underrated episode

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Underrated in the amount of hate it gets, yes. It is the single worst episode of Star Trek.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      did they really cut his dick off?

  61. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I was always sad that they never did anything like this again
      I get that it would have been a far less distinguished show but it was nice to showcase the power of a phaser instead of just using it as a glorified taser

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        There was something like it in the episode with the deaf negotiator/peacemaker but not as gruesome.

  62. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ensign Ezri Dax:
    These pronouns are going to drive me crazy!

  63. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    DS9 is definitely the most complex and nuanced Trek but I don't think it can exist without TNG. It is, essentially, the shadow cast by its light. The two go together.

  64. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
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      Anonymous
  65. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ds9 sucks

  66. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Anons have already mentioned DS9's issue with scale (and I'd add that the Dominion War never properly comes across as the existential conflict it is supposed to be) though, I think the other issue with the Cardassian/Bajoran conflict is the franchise makes the Cardassians out to be especially abhorrent when really the Klingons (UFP allies and at least nominally good-ish guys) must be doing the same sort of things in their Empire. That's not to say that the Cardassians are justified/excusable however, the franchise doesn't recognise & grapple with that uncomfortable truth. Similarly, if the Cardassians are that abhorrent than maybe the UFP should have actually done something other than just tut; it is not one of those things that you don't need the UFP to have actually acted different however, it is something that the franchise doesn't really call-out and explore.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Similarly, if the Cardassians are that abhorrent than maybe the UFP should have actually done something other than just tut; it is not one of those things that you don't need the UFP to have actually acted different however, it is something that the franchise doesn't really call-out and explore.
      To paraphrase a post I once saw in another thread: A what point does the Federation draw the line? Does the Cardassians genociding the entire Bajoran population get the Federation to intervene? If yes, well what about 90%, 80% and so and so on. If no then what does that say about the Federation?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >A what point does the Federation draw the line?
        For what has been seen, never.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The Fereration's pretty chickenshit. They talk a big game about their own enlightenment, but they don't have the integrity to make open war on their enemies OR respect their own agreements when it doesn't suit them. Simultaneously legitimizing occuptation to avoid a fight AND actively supporting terrorist elements within the occupied territories is pretty much par for the course. Although I surmise from the writers perspective when the UFP says "waah our hands are tied" they're right, whereas when anyone else does it they're bad (unironically because racism)

  67. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      to be fair, he genocided the suliban after they successfully completed their redemption arc. i would be pretty jaded too.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      what was up with making him a water polo enthusiast of all fricking things

  68. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    DS9 is Star Trek for people that don't like Star Trek

  69. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm gonna be honest I'm fairly new to Trek and have seen TOS, TNG and am now on s1 of DS9. I know many love both TNG and DS9 but to me it feels like the franchise keeps getting duller? I find myself going back to TOS to rewatch episodes like A piece of the action, The doomsday machine, The devil in the dark etc. It's just such a fun show. I enjoyed TNG a lot but I have yet to come back and rewatch any particular episode. I don't think any later series captured that fun and raw entertainment value that TOS had. TOS also looks the best imo, it's as if we became allergic to color by the late 90's haha. Any other anons feel the same?

  70. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >beardless Riker
    >happy, mischievous and always has a twinkle in his eye
    >bearded Riker
    >miserable hardass who bullies anyone outside of his clique

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is one of the things that turns me off from post-Roddenberry TNG; it’s like all the main crew become covertly sinister, stuck-up pricks.
      Only Barclay and Ro are appealing to me, and maybe Data.
      It’s like every character is just fricking awful after a certain point. I don’t get a sense of optimism from the show at all. Fricking waste to watch to me.

  71. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think its main cast is the weakest element of it. With Sisko there is the decision to make him a religious figure that is a weird choice in itself and one that only every now & again the writers remember about. Jake Sisko could have been an opportunity to learn more about UFP civilians but, that opportunity is not explored. Jadzia Dax basically boils down to 'muh previous host' without really exploring the symbiont thereby making the concept feel shallow and Jadzia as being insufferable to be around; Ezri Dax arrives when the show is wrapping up and at best is rushed - both serve the function of being pretty (and don't get me wrong, I am not knocking that) but they don't add much of character substance. The writers didn't know what to do with Bashir. Kira's background as a terrorist and attitudes towards Bajoran culture are often flat due to lack of meaningful exploration, and what's really gained from her being in a relationship with Odo? Odo is interesting before he has a relationship Kira. O'Brien and Worf have things going, though 1) you can asterisk's the point next to both that they are originally from another show and 2) a bunch of Worf's story arguably is effectively its own thing separate from DS9 as you could retool it to be in some Klingon/Worf focused show. The only new main cast characters that are interesting, and who are amongst the most interesting characters in the show, are Quark and Garak.

  72. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Did it count as masturbation

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I've seen people call it selfcest.

  73. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  74. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What would other Star Trek captains be like in charge of DS9?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Archer would keep referring to the Cardassians as spoon heads and have no time for Dax bullshit.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Picard
      Bored out of his mind

      >Kirk
      Sleeping with all the females on the station. Probably desert at some point.

      >Archer
      Start a war with the spoon-heads

      >Janeway
      Blow up the wormhole so she has doesn't have to deal with all the bullshit

  75. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My favorite episode of DS9 is the one with the tribbles.

    I like how the exterior shots in the past were shot like TOS.

  76. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >aaauuuggghhhh

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      More of these game(?) webms?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        help yourself, it's from this horror https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmEeOB7qZg4

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I bet it plays like absolute dogshit but those graphics are pretty solid for a crap tie in game in '95.

  77. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >first 16 episodes of SNW
    I've only seen the first 4 before giving up on it. What did you see in the first 16 and what did you not find post that?

  78. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ds9 sucks

  79. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    please tell me the upscales are not the final form to watch Voyager
    It never looked that shitty on SD TV broadcast. I can't take these ai enhancements

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What happened was they spent millions of dollars reconstructing TNG from scratch and barely made it all back because it was at a weird time when no one cared about Star Trek. (it's not that the blu ray sets were expensive, because they also sold the episodes to syndication)
      DS9 and Voyager are way less popular than TNG and ~~*Paramount*~~ doesn't see the point in it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I think Voyager was also shot entirely on video (ntsc resolution) and every special effect was also done in SD. It's impossibe to ever get a better version than the beta c tapes they sent out to broadcaster. But we have no access to them.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          shot on film, edited on video. so it can be done but it would be a ton of work and its not worth it since they look fine

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No. Voyager, like TNG and DS9, were shot entirely on 35mm film. The motion control photography was, as well. It was edited together on SD video tape. But the raw film footage exists.

            I shit, I didn't know. Voyager's bridge shots always had those weird SD halos around the highlights and looked very lowres. So it can be done if someone was willing to redo the special fx. Zero chance then kek

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              it will happen when it doesnt look good enough to show on whatever tv looks like in 25 years

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No. Voyager, like TNG and DS9, were shot entirely on 35mm film. The motion control photography was, as well. It was edited together on SD video tape. But the raw film footage exists.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What exactly is the point of the upscales and remasters if it wasn't ever intended to be seen at that resolution? What actually changes by being able to see production gaffs, low quality props and being able to calculate who made Riker's hair gel by its reflectivity?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >moron doesn't know the difference between an upscale and a film rescan
          transporter accident urself

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I only want the same quality as the original TV broadcast and DVD cannot provide that on a flatscreen panel. I'm not hoarding CRTs just to watch old kinos.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          why not?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            What exactly is the point of the upscales and remasters if it wasn't ever intended to be seen at that resolution? What actually changes by being able to see production gaffs, low quality props and being able to calculate who made Riker's hair gel by its reflectivity?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              hnng

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Just get a better upscale. Typically you don't want one blown up to a ridiculous resolution.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That looks pretty good.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The early seasons of both DS9 and voyager also have that shitty fuzzy look, it seems they get better around their 96/97 seasons, I guess the standard def video tape was higher quality and didn't degrade the film footage as much.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's possible but personally I don't think what you're saying about the early seasons is true.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            they do though

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              compare this shot...

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                ...with the same one, put through the same technique they used for TNG using the raw footage, and it loses that fuzziness

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >top and bottom of image chopped off
                disgusting

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              That's film grain

              compare this shot...

              ...with the same one, put through the same technique they used for TNG using the raw footage, and it loses that fuzziness

              Both of these shots are blurred i.e. de-grained

              You a zoomer?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >That's film grain
                >Both of these shots are blurred i.e. de-grained
                Are you being obtuse on purpose? It was the process by taking HD 35mm film and converting it to 480p video tape that caused a decline in quality. What the frick are you trying to say; are you moronic?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You have no idea what you're talking about. Film grain doesn't disappear because something is transferred to tape or even digital. It's an inherent part of the image. To reduce the visibility of film grain you have to blur the image, which obviously they started doing later on probably in an attempt to make the post-film digital vfx look less jarring. What's your birth year?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >What's your birth year?
                July 20, 1992.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                NTA but
                >Anon's lawn, plagued by (You).

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >all that artifacting
                disgusting, frick off jpgger

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                This is the only artifact we want to see around here !

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        why is there a dirty fricking ferengi there

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          There are two

  80. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    we warned you, it was a fire hazard, but you didn't listen and now rené is dead

  81. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    TOS is

  82. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Voyager still used physical ship models for the most part during the first few seasons (Voyager, Kazon ships, shuttles, ships of the week, etc.)
    Only a few shots during the theme intro, and then exclusively from mid S3 onward, was Voyager a CG model, which would have to be redone.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's all very fascinating stuff. CGI was becoming more commonplace but the producers used it interchangeably with motion control, until a certain point.

  83. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    First Star Trek series I'm watching, I'm on episode 2 and it's pretty fun though the dialogue is too theatrical.

  84. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's so obviously the film grain making Data's uniform look purple.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is BAD and goes against the original intent!!!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why are you talking about something visually unrelated?

      This is BAD and goes against the original intent!!!

      Notice that the TNG transfers preserved more grain.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is BAD and goes against the original intent!!!

      The true-to-life colors of the HD transfers made me forget that Data was supposed to be white with yellow eyes, not yellow with yellow eyes.

  85. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Section 31 should've been shut down after the Dominion War and everyone involved charged with attempted genocide.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Or suggest that it was just Sloan the entire time and nobody else. Enterprise made a mistake by giving us additional members.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How? Even Sloan said it was a decentralized organization. There's no HQ or field offices.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Somebody had to be giving orders.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The field operatives would just take the reigns.

  86. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    and shots with motion have unintentional blur, which is dishonest/moronic of your to use an example. Here's a still shot from the same episode.

  87. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    yjk he’s a zoomer

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >gets confused by grain
      Now he's going to lie about it.

  88. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >both Star Trek: Deep Space Nine and Star Trek: Voyager had already implemented CGI in their title sequences (created in 1992 and 1994, respectively)

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