Star Wars military tech is so gay. A major WWII military would have no problem beating the Empire or the Rebels. There are WWI biplanes with a faster top speed than Tie Fighters.
>I wish the Lego UCS AT-AT was true to scale, you can't fit that many stormtroopers in there
its completely in scale and has 40 interior troop seats which is how many seats the cross-section books states (top middle of ops image)
the reason it doesn't necessarily look like its in scale is because the lego models legs are too wide/thick and stick out further than the hull
Doesn't the UCS nearly crumble under its own weight to begin with? You just can't make something that big out of lego.
no but you can't bend the legs much or its too unstable
>top speed of Star Wars spaceships is 2c >top speed of Star Wars aircraft is 200 miles per hour >top speed of Star Wars combat vehicles is 8 miles per hour
The USS Enterprise NCC-1701 could kill every military vehicle in the entire Star Wars galaxy by itself
the Starfleet consists of like 80 ships the star wars has tens of billions
a single sector in star wars could ram into the entire Starfleet and Starfleet could do nothing about it
phasers have cooldowns and torpedo's are limited
if all of Starfleet popped into the star wars universe they could not re-arm ect and would die from attrition
a single star destroyer could overwhelm any starfleetship with fighters alone
if starwars popped into startreck with just ets say the empire (billions of ships) they would own a massive portion of space and be the largest military force in the universe
It seems laughable that they need to rappel down in order to deploy the troops. How do they quickly remount?
This was a great book and had loads of cool little drawings and details. The reissues by Disney are identical drawings with loads of interesting small things removed and replaced with dogshit blurred stills from the nu movies.
I actually think the Supremacy makes a fair amount of sense IF the writers and world-builders know what they're going for. It's more of a combined capital city and shipyard that is mobile.
I actually think the Supremacy makes a fair amount of sense IF the writers and world-builders know what they're going for. It's more of a combined capital city and shipyard that is mobile.
Yeah, giant super structures where always a thing. I think the Wheel is about the same size as the Supremacy, maybe a little smaller
>What's even the point of making a craft that large?
"OT thing but BIGGER" is easier for creatively bankrupt Disney reptillians to come up with for their shitty movies.
>What if we had a SUPER Star Destroyer >What if we had a SECOND Death Star
you act like one-upping itself in scale and recycling familiar imagery hasn't been Star Wars' game from almost the beginning. But wait you watched those movies as a toddler so it was SOVL
>What's even the point of making a craft that large?
"OT thing but BIGGER" is easier for creatively bankrupt Disney reptillians to come up with for their shitty movies.
[...] >What if we had a SUPER Star Destroyer >What if we had a SECOND Death Star
you act like one-upping itself in scale and recycling familiar imagery hasn't been Star Wars' game from almost the beginning. But wait you watched those movies as a toddler so it was SOVL
eu canon suggests they used to kneel down which let everybody mount/dismount relatively easily but left the walker immobile and vulnerable
but troops could also rappel in combat to save time
think of it like a transport helicopter - it can land or guys can rappel
wildly impractical compared to even something like a space huey but walkers are cool
I love the arc 170 so much bros. Its my favorite star wars ship in the entire franchise. Its criminal that it gets so little screentime considering its the predecessor to the X-wing
stuff like this pleased my autistic ass when I was a kid
still does
I love the arc 170 so much bros. Its my favorite star wars ship in the entire franchise. Its criminal that it gets so little screentime considering its the predecessor to the X-wing
i had either this book or a similar book and i loved it
i don't know if this kind of kino worldbuilding will ever be recaptured i just can't see kids flicking through a book about the detail of vehicles in nu star wars or even dunc or anything and in no small part because the culture has just completely changed
my toy atat was sick
lots of series try to force it but star wars really does have iconic designs >tie fighters with their noise >storm troopers >at-ats >at-sts >even r2d2
there is just so much character and personality in every single design like
at-sts really have a face and, just like storm troopers, they look menacing and sinister
walkers are impractical but star wars doesn't care because it's about being cool and distinct not tedious realism which manchild spergs ie the contemporary market don't realise even while they're still obsessed with old designs from their childhood
> i just can't see kids flicking through a book about the detail of vehicles in nu star wars or even dunc
They watch youtube videos breaking down details like that. Ask an alt looking teenager about five nights at freddys and you'll see that nerds still obsess over their favorite media.
true but it's still very different
the modern equivalent would be these books being about dunc helicopter things, harvesters, and houses not creepypasta and fnaf
it's obviously a subjective values question but i really would compare slenderman and shit like that unfavourably to the world building in star wars, lotr, or even dunc
the difference between videos and games and books and toys explains it to some extent, although not entirely, because a video or a game is a rollercoaster whereas a non-story book is more like food for imagination and toys are instruments of creativity and play - they don't play with themselves and show you battles or dramatic moments without your input
>Most of them were'nt instant classics
Name any that weren't instant classics. Then compare their counts to those that were. You're just plain wrong.
X-wing
Tie Figher
Aluminium Falcon
Death Star
Y-wing bomber
land speeder
star destroyer
jawa crawler
all the robots
lightsaber
laser pistols
And that's just the first movie.
The only thing that maybe wasn't instantly iconic was Chewbacca's slingshot.
fys
you're autistic
the average person who saw star wars remembers >darth vader >light sabers >the cast >the droids >storm troopers >the falcon, x wings, and tie fighters
and even x wings is a stretch
they don't remember y wings which were in the background and piloted by literal nobodies and they don't remember luke's car unless you prompt them
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Anonymous
That star wars homosexual rekt you. Just accept it with grace
you're autistic
the average person who saw star wars remembers >darth vader >light sabers >the cast >the droids >storm troopers >the falcon, x wings, and tie fighters
and even x wings is a stretch
they don't remember y wings which were in the background and piloted by literal nobodies and they don't remember luke's car unless you prompt them
The Y-wing was certainly an instant classic. Even if it wasn't, we have Y-wings + Chewbacca's crossbow vs literally everything else, not to mention Dark Helmet that anon added to the list that I forgot, also Leia's bunz, old kenobi, stormtroopers. Come to think, I'm trying to come up with anything that was NOT and instant classic, at least in the first movie.
that's because you're a fan
go ask your mother to name stuff from star wars or any random person on the street and see how far down the line y wings are
if the films hadn't blown up into this then even fewer people would remember them
lucas absolutey is amazing at creating iconic and still consistent worlds which feel genuine despire being so fantastical but to pretend that the average person who saw star wars in 1977 remembered y wings, gonk droids, the emperor's transport, and han's blaster is just delusional
these elements add to the whole because without them the world would feel much more empty and they are all remembered fondly now but you can't disentangle that from how much has built upon it for example i wouldn't really even recognise han's blaster or even the troopers' were it not for extensively playing jedi academy because it was just there as part of the world seamlessly blended with the rest
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Anonymous
You are a total homosexual. Why are you effort posting a non argument? >yeah sure george lucas makes iconic imagery, but it's not iconic because I like to argue
You absoultely act this way in real life and people know you are a loser. And no, I'm not the sw nerd you're arguing with. I hate star wars yet I can immediately recognize everything he mentioned without seeing images. If you walked down the street showing people a picture of a x wing you would be hard pressed to find anyone who doesn't know it's from star wars.
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Anonymous
>it cannot be classic unless people who don't like sw approve
What a dumb yardstick.
>still clinging to y-wings
You've yet to offer even one not-a-classic. I even gave you the crossbow.
Not just Star Wars, every movie and TV show. Despite all our fancy computer technology we still haven't topped the simple act of making a model and filming it.
I fricking love to see a real model explode on an old TV show or movie, like when the Enterprise-D blew up in that one episode or all the fighters in Star Wars. Somehow it's just more satisfying than the biggest most elaborate CGI explosion.
Just wait until the AI becomes more advanced soon we will be able to generate the most detailed intense modelling and images of better quality than what hand animation does and with infinite fractal detail not limited by a camera.
>How did Star Wars manage to cram so many iconic designs into 1 movie? A sci-fi movie is lucky if even 1 ship design is memorable.
Lucas has 'the eye'. his 'eye' for world building is probably the most interesting thing about star wars that attracts so many people to it. he created a world that made sense within its own aesthetic which is something that makes or breaks a fictional mythos or not.
A fighter/bomber made by Koensayr Manufacturing. Several variants exist. Typically armed with two proton torpedoes in two launchers, two forward mounted lasers, and two forward mounted ion cannons. Some variants had a rear gunner with two lasers mounted on a movable turret. Slow, not very maneuverable, and easy prey for Tie Interceptors but superior to Tie Fighters and Tie Bombers. Typically escorted by X-Wings or A-Wings. Generally considered obsolete after the introduction of the B-Wing.
Okay?
Look at that subtle off-white coloring. The tasteful thickness of it. Oh my god, it’s even got toe flaps.
Don't know why you'd deploy soldiers via a AT-AT when you could deploy them via hover craft but whatever
Everything that uses a repulsor engine in Star Wars can be blocked by shields.
APC’s aren't five stories tall and require your little chud soldiers to repel down them
For now.
>why do we have APCs when helicopters exist
Yeah, I know, the 90s were rad like that.
these books were the fricking bomb. homosexual disney products will never compare
Star Wars military tech is so gay. A major WWII military would have no problem beating the Empire or the Rebels. There are WWI biplanes with a faster top speed than Tie Fighters.
Let's see a Sopwith Camel fly outside an atmosphere
> …Let’s see Grand Moff Allen’s card.
>Blows up earth from orbit
Heh, nothing personal kids
The Death Star is the only thing that can do that.
Where do they shit?
I wish the Lego UCS AT-AT was true to scale, you can't fit that many stormtroopers in there
Doesn't the UCS nearly crumble under its own weight to begin with? You just can't make something that big out of lego.
>I wish the Lego UCS AT-AT was true to scale, you can't fit that many stormtroopers in there
its completely in scale and has 40 interior troop seats which is how many seats the cross-section books states (top middle of ops image)
the reason it doesn't necessarily look like its in scale is because the lego models legs are too wide/thick and stick out further than the hull
no but you can't bend the legs much or its too unstable
What do they eat?
>top speed of Star Wars spaceships is 2c
>top speed of Star Wars aircraft is 200 miles per hour
>top speed of Star Wars combat vehicles is 8 miles per hour
The USS Enterprise NCC-1701 could kill every military vehicle in the entire Star Wars galaxy by itself
>top speed of Star Wars spaceships is 2c
What benefit do you derive from acting moronic other than a couple of pity (You)s?
the Starfleet consists of like 80 ships the star wars has tens of billions
a single sector in star wars could ram into the entire Starfleet and Starfleet could do nothing about it
phasers have cooldowns and torpedo's are limited
if all of Starfleet popped into the star wars universe they could not re-arm ect and would die from attrition
a single star destroyer could overwhelm any starfleetship with fighters alone
if starwars popped into startreck with just ets say the empire (billions of ships) they would own a massive portion of space and be the largest military force in the universe
>all that space
>all those soldiers
>only four guns
>all in one spot
Where's all the diversity?
It seems laughable that they need to rappel down in order to deploy the troops. How do they quickly remount?
This was a great book and had loads of cool little drawings and details. The reissues by Disney are identical drawings with loads of interesting small things removed and replaced with dogshit blurred stills from the nu movies.
It's an all around moronic design.
Anything walking is a waste of time.
steep hills block your path
small trenches stop entire armoured columns while bridges are deployed
lmao mines become completely ineffective ect ad nauseum
what shitty books are you reading, even the disney movies got detailed drawings of their vehicles
I actually think the Supremacy makes a fair amount of sense IF the writers and world-builders know what they're going for. It's more of a combined capital city and shipyard that is mobile.
Yeah, giant super structures where always a thing. I think the Wheel is about the same size as the Supremacy, maybe a little smaller
Damn shame how she gets split.
What's even the point of making a craft that large? The Star Destroyer being dwarfed just ruins what a SD was supposed to be.
>What's even the point of making a craft that large?
"OT thing but BIGGER" is easier for creatively bankrupt Disney reptillians to come up with for their shitty movies.
>What if we had a SUPER Star Destroyer
>What if we had a SECOND Death Star
you act like one-upping itself in scale and recycling familiar imagery hasn't been Star Wars' game from almost the beginning. But wait you watched those movies as a toddler so it was SOVL
big destroyer look cool doe
Scale is a important part of science fiction.
no it isn't you moronic Black person
>digital illustration
I took a look at the TFA one when it came out and the drawings look like ass. Ugly smeary digital look which doesn't compare to the old books at all.
>How do they quickly remount?
They are expected to complete the mission or die. There is no remounting
why would they need to remount?
eu canon suggests they used to kneel down which let everybody mount/dismount relatively easily but left the walker immobile and vulnerable
but troops could also rappel in combat to save time
think of it like a transport helicopter - it can land or guys can rappel
wildly impractical compared to even something like a space huey but walkers are cool
>How do they quickly remount?
How do paratroopers get back in the airplane?
Imagine the smell
pants on head moronic design
kino
where do they pee and poop?
Post more cutaways from anything. It's my fetish.
You should get that book. It costs peanuts in second hand.
That is an AT-AT not an AT-ST
stuff like this pleased my autistic ass when I was a kid
still does
>Can't see shit, Mark.
>pilot & gunner
that sounds awkward as frick
I love the arc 170 so much bros. Its my favorite star wars ship in the entire franchise. Its criminal that it gets so little screentime considering its the predecessor to the X-wing
>AT-ST
Get on my fricking level. I was a Star Wars fan back before it was cool.
I wonder if you can frick AT-AT in the ass
How did Star Wars manage to cram so many iconic designs into 1 movie? A sci-fi movie is lucky if even 1 ship design is memorable.
Most of them were'nt instant classics, it's just Lucasfilm spent the next four decades cramming them into merchandise and EU material..
i had either this book or a similar book and i loved it
i don't know if this kind of kino worldbuilding will ever be recaptured i just can't see kids flicking through a book about the detail of vehicles in nu star wars or even dunc or anything and in no small part because the culture has just completely changed
my toy atat was sick
lots of series try to force it but star wars really does have iconic designs
>tie fighters with their noise
>storm troopers
>at-ats
>at-sts
>even r2d2
there is just so much character and personality in every single design like
at-sts really have a face and, just like storm troopers, they look menacing and sinister
walkers are impractical but star wars doesn't care because it's about being cool and distinct not tedious realism which manchild spergs ie the contemporary market don't realise even while they're still obsessed with old designs from their childhood
> i just can't see kids flicking through a book about the detail of vehicles in nu star wars or even dunc
They watch youtube videos breaking down details like that. Ask an alt looking teenager about five nights at freddys and you'll see that nerds still obsess over their favorite media.
true but it's still very different
the modern equivalent would be these books being about dunc helicopter things, harvesters, and houses not creepypasta and fnaf
it's obviously a subjective values question but i really would compare slenderman and shit like that unfavourably to the world building in star wars, lotr, or even dunc
the difference between videos and games and books and toys explains it to some extent, although not entirely, because a video or a game is a rollercoaster whereas a non-story book is more like food for imagination and toys are instruments of creativity and play - they don't play with themselves and show you battles or dramatic moments without your input
>Most of them were'nt instant classics
Name any that weren't instant classics. Then compare their counts to those that were. You're just plain wrong.
X-wing
Tie Figher
Aluminium Falcon
Death Star
Y-wing bomber
land speeder
star destroyer
jawa crawler
all the robots
lightsaber
laser pistols
And that's just the first movie.
The only thing that maybe wasn't instantly iconic was Chewbacca's slingshot.
fys
Chewbacca's bowcaster anon, it is a bowcaster.
the y wing is not remembered by most people
>t. Drooling moron
you're autistic
the average person who saw star wars remembers
>darth vader
>light sabers
>the cast
>the droids
>storm troopers
>the falcon, x wings, and tie fighters
and even x wings is a stretch
they don't remember y wings which were in the background and piloted by literal nobodies and they don't remember luke's car unless you prompt them
That star wars homosexual rekt you. Just accept it with grace
The Y-wing was certainly an instant classic. Even if it wasn't, we have Y-wings + Chewbacca's crossbow vs literally everything else, not to mention Dark Helmet that anon added to the list that I forgot, also Leia's bunz, old kenobi, stormtroopers. Come to think, I'm trying to come up with anything that was NOT and instant classic, at least in the first movie.
that's because you're a fan
go ask your mother to name stuff from star wars or any random person on the street and see how far down the line y wings are
if the films hadn't blown up into this then even fewer people would remember them
lucas absolutey is amazing at creating iconic and still consistent worlds which feel genuine despire being so fantastical but to pretend that the average person who saw star wars in 1977 remembered y wings, gonk droids, the emperor's transport, and han's blaster is just delusional
these elements add to the whole because without them the world would feel much more empty and they are all remembered fondly now but you can't disentangle that from how much has built upon it for example i wouldn't really even recognise han's blaster or even the troopers' were it not for extensively playing jedi academy because it was just there as part of the world seamlessly blended with the rest
You are a total homosexual. Why are you effort posting a non argument?
>yeah sure george lucas makes iconic imagery, but it's not iconic because I like to argue
You absoultely act this way in real life and people know you are a loser. And no, I'm not the sw nerd you're arguing with. I hate star wars yet I can immediately recognize everything he mentioned without seeing images. If you walked down the street showing people a picture of a x wing you would be hard pressed to find anyone who doesn't know it's from star wars.
>it cannot be classic unless people who don't like sw approve
What a dumb yardstick.
>still clinging to y-wings
You've yet to offer even one not-a-classic. I even gave you the crossbow.
What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?
god it's incredible how much better Star Wars looked when every special effect existed in real, tangible space
the prequels were a mistake
Not just Star Wars, every movie and TV show. Despite all our fancy computer technology we still haven't topped the simple act of making a model and filming it.
I fricking love to see a real model explode on an old TV show or movie, like when the Enterprise-D blew up in that one episode or all the fighters in Star Wars. Somehow it's just more satisfying than the biggest most elaborate CGI explosion.
Just wait until the AI becomes more advanced soon we will be able to generate the most detailed intense modelling and images of better quality than what hand animation does and with infinite fractal detail not limited by a camera.
>How did Star Wars manage to cram so many iconic designs into 1 movie? A sci-fi movie is lucky if even 1 ship design is memorable.
Lucas has 'the eye'. his 'eye' for world building is probably the most interesting thing about star wars that attracts so many people to it. he created a world that made sense within its own aesthetic which is something that makes or breaks a fictional mythos or not.
a few years later and jar jar is the key of it all.
I love cross sections like yhu woullndn/t believe
they should have a built in movie screen so that the troops can watch kino
where do they poop?
out the ass
most moronic device in the history of the universe.
>this is the interior of an AT-ST from a 1998 book
>an AT-ST
>AT-ST
>-ST
It's an AT-AT you dumb illiterate frick.
Where’s the glory hole?
Hnnnnnng
These books were the best, I used to love the ones that featured historical ships and structures
What the frick is a y wing?
A fighter/bomber made by Koensayr Manufacturing. Several variants exist. Typically armed with two proton torpedoes in two launchers, two forward mounted lasers, and two forward mounted ion cannons. Some variants had a rear gunner with two lasers mounted on a movable turret. Slow, not very maneuverable, and easy prey for Tie Interceptors but superior to Tie Fighters and Tie Bombers. Typically escorted by X-Wings or A-Wings. Generally considered obsolete after the introduction of the B-Wing.
I had this book
The TIE Fighter page folded out into the Death Star page.