>this is the story Gunn thinks adapting will make people like Superman
It's over before it even begun.
>inb4 spoonfeed me
Basically in the late 90s Warren Ellis created a team called the Authority (they're getting a movie) which featured homosexual Batman and homosexual Superman, and a couple of other anti-heroes including a druggie Dutch Shaman, a Latina Iron Man/Vision mashup and so on. Their MO was that they were edgy and were killing despots and dictators instead of just colourful supervillains. Hitch's art and widescreen approach changed comics forever and that was carried over in Marvel's Ultimates. As you can predict, the Authority was a massive success and outsold the standard superheroes. Here comes the writer of this page, who seethed so much that he created a mainline team called the Elite, with Manchester Black (pic related) as the leader, which did the same thing as the Authority but in Superman's turf. It featured such brilliant commentary as Superman saying that murder is never justified, even in the case where the Elite killed a bunch of guys to stop Hiroshima 3.0 and other such strawmen. The series is nothing but the edgy strawman going
>heh, murder works and the world is trash
and Superman going
>but it doesn't and it's not!
until it ends with pic related. Gunn's merging the Authority with the Elite and using the former's name. The story will be about evil, stupid edgy 90s-00s characters working for the Government, and getting upstaged by the
>aww shucks, if we just sing kumbaya and let the mass-murdering genocidal maniacs do as they will, love will prevail!
Superman, who'll be in his 20s-30s.
This is what they think will save DC. This is what they think will make people like Superman. Are they legitimately moronic?
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If this is true, Gunn might actually be a genius. People are absolutely burned out on gritty realism and grim reality being injected into escapist fantasy, making a film about Superman that’s an absolute refutation of that archetype in fiction couldn’t hit at a better time.
Preach brother.
Checked
blessed
This, also a refutation of Snyder’s shit which is definitely a path to success
>People are absolutely burned out on gritty realism and grim reality being injected into escapist fantasy
Why can't you homosexuals just pick a line?
>muh MCU bad cuz it's too jokey
>NOOOO OTHER THING TOO GRIM N GRITTY ME WANT COMFYKINO
What "grim n gritty" overload is there you utterly moronic Black person? Everything's become silly and "comfy" and "cute". You Supergays are so goddamn moronic it's embarrassing.
>Why can't you homosexuals just pick a line?
I think people just don’t know what to do with the character. Currently people seem excited or at least interested in a more light hearted and hopeful superman due to the issues with Synder’s supes but most writers probably aren’t good at actually putting that on screen so it could very well end up falling flat
You can do a sincere non-grim Superman without it being overly quippy
>muh grimderp
Snyder lost.
>realism = quips
feeble-minded homosexual
>everything's a joke hurr durr
isn't the opposite of
>everything's shit and you suck and everything sucks and frick you mom I won't do the dishes!
garbage, the two stances are basically gay lovers. Both are equally insincere and hollow, just like you.
People crave straightforward sincerity, an earnest protagonist who doesn't just *try* to do good but fundamentally *is good*, a protagonist who doesn't reduce every moment of emotion and intimacy to a juvenile quip, a protagonist that has more to them than a random assortment of mental illnesses chosen at random by the therapy-addled writers from the DSM-5. They want films that uplift and entertain and no longer berate them for the crime of having been born "privileged".
The MCU is bad because it’s cynical. The quips are there to undercut dramatic tension, because god forbid people feel emotions watching Disney product. There’s absolutely nothing heartfelt or honest about it. They are also guilty of trying to inject gritty realism into their material, trying to have their ridiculous pantomime characters deal with real-world issues in the most shallow ways possible - then cutting any meaning that might have off with more quippy, snarky humour.
>People are absolutely burned out on gritty realism
We haven't had gritty realism in capeshit for like 15+ years. Even Snyder isn't gritty realism, it's just not as glib as Marlel.
Not realism I agree, but definitely cynicism.
>If this is true, Gunn might actually be a genius
gay couple
no thanks
>The story will be about evil, stupid edgy 90s-00s characters working for the Government
Well, to be fair, I can't think of a group of people I'd dislike more than the one you described
I don't know if this counts for anything, but none of Gunn's heroes so far have been very shy about killing, so I don't think he'll focus on that, more just "optimism vs nihilism", which, if he does, is absolutely the right call
Why that didn't save Shazam 2, then?
>make a cynical, by-the-numbers sequel to a fun, optimistic, good-natured film
>be surprised when it less warmly received
surprisedpikachu.webp
>but that's the thing ain't it?
Any writer that writes those words in that order should be murdered on the spot
Terrible. Superman is only as good as the villain which is why they should have picked a proper Luthor story starring Joe Rogan. The market is ripe for a vax denying, dude weed, gymbro for the sigma bracket to relate to, and for the twitter libs bracket to rally against. Divisive Id Misc is what will make money. Not woke shit. Not Cinemaphile pandering.
>PABOOOM
>Warren Ellis
The british invasion did more to ruin comics than the CCA.
I think the heart of the problem is that Superman is a pretty boring character that lacks depth. He's just Good, that's his whole deal. You can't really do much with that premise. And if you start to move away from that version of Superman, for whom being Good is like another superpower, people complain that you're just trying to be edgy and subvert the character for subversion's sake, so they kick back.
>Superman is a pretty boring character that lacks depth
This is why Marlel was never able to come up with their own Superman.
You're just a moron, like all the nu-marvel homosexuals writing long articles about how harley is a better character than batman because evil people are more realistic.
You just think that because you're evil.
>You just think that because you're evil.
Least sociopathic anon.
Superman works best in the context of the Daily Planet characters, mainly Lois, working as an investigative reporter. It represents the power of a Free Press.
Why does everyone act like Superman is some impossible character to write for? He had multiple successful, long running shows that he lead as recently as the early 2000s. The kids who watched those shows still exist, it's not like he's a super antiquated character from a different time period.
Its going to be a fricking disaster, audiences have gone off capeshit and especially the shit DC keep producing.
Why the frick is Hollywood so hellbent on adapting super hero comics when there's so many cool comics that have nothing to do with super heroes? The Walking Dead is a prime example of a decent concept from a comic that was wildly popular, even if it's been run into the ground. People are obviously done with super hero movies for a while, wtf are they thinking