The prequels are always mocked but this scene right here really encapsulates Anakin's reason for wanting to learn a new power in order to save Padme after he was unable to save his mother from dying
Lucas was known to edit together different takes of an actor's performance and stitch them together into a single shot. It's "fix it in post" taken to the absolute extreme.
The biggest mistake Lucas made was not having Hayden in the first movie, young Anakin with Jake Lloyd should have been a short 10 or so minute bit. For a man who appreciates poetry he should have realized Anakin should have begun his journey in his late teens like Luke does. We could have seen a more emotional Anakin who isn't trying to suppress himself like once he joins the Jedi.
>Redditor gobbling up any corporate garbage without any vision because his nostalgia is being pandered to also admitting his movies are bad
What did he mean by this
>genuinely enthusiastic about his movies
Oh yeah, he sounds real enthusiastic making those films
I don't understand you morons, the movies are garbage, but for some fricking reason they're better because they're not Disney, like, the most important thing about the film is that it's made by LucasFilms.
It's so monumentally stupid. Indy 4 was made by Spielberg and Lucas, homosexual. Is it good because of it?
>looking at things with nuance
Kek. You're doing the precise opposite. You established an arbitrary line where anything Lucas is good and anything Disney is bad. It's beyond moronic >like an underage moron who thinks everything is corporate so you have to suck it up
Holy shit, you get more moronic by the word. You were the one whining about hoe the new films are corpo, newsflash homosexual, so were the old ones. First ones were funded by Fox and the others by a billionaire.
bad acting unable to read dialogue =/= being a young angsty teen. Zoomers are too moronic to realize this
his face what the frick happened ?
This scene was a cool idea but they fricked it up, just like everything else in Disney Star Wars. It should have been shown in full at the beginning of the episode with ONE flash back near the climax. The show runners here clearly have no concept of juxtaposition and don’t respect their audience’s memory. Also, while Hayden looks too old, Ewan looks fricking NOTHING like Obi Wan does in any of the prequels. He’s completely emaciated and his hair is thinning and cut entirely wrong. That’s fine for washed up tattooing Obi but it looks awful alongside Anakin in Coruscant. Also, theres no fricking subtlety here with Anakin’s dark sidedness. It basically seems like he’s just trying to kill Obi Wan and nobody in his shoes would not sound the alarm on Anakin being evil. More prequel tier moronation.
I like how she made all the :O and :F faces over and over again, she looks really great in a deepfake vid at least. Too bad Carrie Fisher vids are still better.
> OH NONONONOOOO
Prequel bros, you are just as bad as Marvel fans but probably worse, to this date, zoomers are still overanalyzing prequel scenes and onions out every time an actor is actually acting or when souless GCI becomes le "cinematography". No amount of excuses can make these movies good, even if you use fancy words like "literature", "Shakespearean", etc. Also ring theory is cringe too.
Reddltors are bottom-of-the-barrel brainlets who encourage each other's delusions and justify each other's mindless fanboying. They simply can't handle the fact that something they enjoy can be objectively bad, all that matters to them is their subjective opinions.
>operatic: extravagantly theatrical
extravagantly theatrical sums up pretty much everything in the prequels. so yes even jar jar at his worst is a prime example of extravagantly theatrical.
Before the PT I always imagined Anakin as having become Vader in his 20s or even 30s after he became a full Jedi Knight for several years, and with Obi-Wan already significantly older in his 40s or 50s.
I also thought the PT would cover at least one full adventure of Anakin and Obi-Wan fighting bad guys in the Clone Wars that had nothing at all to do with the force.
That's another thing. I assumed Vader's injuries were much worse than they were in ROTS. Somewhere I got the idea he had fallen entirely into a source of molten lava or metal yet had survived due to the incredible technology available in the SW universe.
Now from what we've seen the story would have to be that Vader is intentionally handicapped more than he needs to be since there are so many other stories in the Star Wars universe showing technology that could make life better for him.
I wanted to see more of human vader. There should have been a time leap between two movies where he turns to Vader at the end of one, then years pass, and then he gets in the suit at the end of the PT.
Then we could have EU stuff and interquel movies with human Vader.
they took the emperor's muscle and turned him into a Shakespearean tragedy hero archetype who was the most important most powerful prophecy child in the entire galaxy
nah in the OT he was just a flawed man who betrayed his friend and fell to the darkside but was brought back to the light and redeemed with the help of his son before he died. His power came from his own skill of the force and surpassing Obi Wan and betraying him.
In the Prequels he was born from a miracle of the force, had the biggest midichlorian count ever recorded, was said to be the prophesied savior to bring balance to the force. His skill as a jedi came from mystical space magic making him into some kind of supernatural big bad boss man from a video game.
I think the reason he falls is pretty reasonable, but it feels rushed. His whole thing was wanting to save Padme from his visions and redeem himself from failing to save his mother. Jumping straight into killing the entire Jedi temple is a bit off from his original intentions, they could have led up to that more.
Aside: prophecies ruin a lot of fiction because fans get obsessed with it and it gets in the way of telling a more interesting story. See also: ASOIAF.
Star Wars was better when it didn't have prophecies associated with it.
Anakin should’ve been an older man in revenge of the sith. Starting the trilogy with him being a little kid in phantom menace was a terrible idea >15–16 in the phantom menace >20-25 in attack of the clones >30-35 in revenge of the sith
based image. The prequels suck and the Disney wars suck also. I will say this, at least the prequels have some SOVL to them thanks to Lucas’ unrefined autism. The guy is clearly on the spectrum and never coming down. Disney shit is too corporate to even be interesting in that regard
this. i miss when shitposting about the prequels was still a thing. now you cant have it without election tourist zoomers coming in and saying youre a RLMdrone and to beg for lucas' forgiveness
Turning Anakin into a remorseless child killer was the worst decision Lucas ever made. Takes away from the tragedy, makes Anakin look like a total psychopath that was always destined to fall to the dark side. Betraying the Jedi order and his best friend was enough
>Blows up a planet, on which there would have been millions of children >Murders underlings in cold blood at the slightest hint of insubordination >Attempts to kill his teenage son >Tries again >Is implied to have personally hunted down and wiped out all of the Jedi >Killing the younglings of a monastic order who have been brainwashed into following what you yourself have been brainwashed into thinking is an evil way of life is suddenly too far
"Anakin should have been older" is such a braindead take, the main for his fall to the dark side is his attachment issues, specifically because he was taken away from his mother a such a crucial time during his formative years and was unable to save her, leading to him becoming obsessed with power and saving Padme. If Anakin was like 15 when he was taken away from his mother she would have either died pretty immediately or when he was even older, in both cases it wouldn't have had such a profound effect on him. Also, Padme is attracted to Anakin's naiveite as someone younger and more idealistic than herself. This is accentuated in Attack of the Clones when they talk about how Padme is getting tired of politics and the reality of how things are run, while Anakin has a much more naïve "somebody should just fix everything" viewpoint.
I like the prequels. I don’t care what some sad gen xer who’s mental fan fiction got shit on has to say about it
>I like the prequels. I don’t care what some sad gen xer who’s mental fan fiction got shit on has to say about it
Based CW03 enjoyer.
What prequel fans?
PREQUELS
SORRY
SORRY
The prequels are always mocked but this scene right here really encapsulates Anakin's reason for wanting to learn a new power in order to save Padme after he was unable to save his mother from dying
Anakin's face morphs into a different pose at 1:26
Never noticed this
He looked left, who cares?
Lucas was known to edit together different takes of an actor's performance and stitch them together into a single shot. It's "fix it in post" taken to the absolute extreme.
an example of how he does it
MOM! OP is being a gaslighting homosexual again!
The biggest mistake Lucas made was not having Hayden in the first movie, young Anakin with Jake Lloyd should have been a short 10 or so minute bit. For a man who appreciates poetry he should have realized Anakin should have begun his journey in his late teens like Luke does. We could have seen a more emotional Anakin who isn't trying to suppress himself like once he joins the Jedi.
His acting was shit because George Lucas is a terrible director. The acting was hot garbage by everyone in the prequels except the veteran actors.
>Prequel gays actually believe this
LMFAOOOOO
There truly is no wiener like horsewiener.
>Redditor gobbling up any corporate garbage without any vision because his nostalgia is being pandered to also admitting his movies are bad
What did he mean by this
>pretending the prequels isn't corpo garbage
>Disney, a soulless corporation, is the same thing as George Lucas, who was genuinely enthusiastic about his movies
You are a moron.
>genuinely enthusiastic about his movies
Oh yeah, he sounds real enthusiastic making those films
I don't understand you morons, the movies are garbage, but for some fricking reason they're better because they're not Disney, like, the most important thing about the film is that it's made by LucasFilms.
It's so monumentally stupid. Indy 4 was made by Spielberg and Lucas, homosexual. Is it good because of it?
>W-Why are you looking at things with nuance instead of like an underage moron who thinks everything is corporate so you have to suck it up
Lol
>looking at things with nuance
Kek. You're doing the precise opposite. You established an arbitrary line where anything Lucas is good and anything Disney is bad. It's beyond moronic
>like an underage moron who thinks everything is corporate so you have to suck it up
Holy shit, you get more moronic by the word. You were the one whining about hoe the new films are corpo, newsflash homosexual, so were the old ones. First ones were funded by Fox and the others by a billionaire.
Yo, Revenge of the Sith was straight-up one of the best things we got after the OT
He's literally not socially awkward though, he's the exact opposite of this. What did he mean by this?
That is not what prequel fans want you to think
Why should I care about what the bottom bell curve of the population thinks?
bad acting unable to read dialogue =/= being a young angsty teen. Zoomers are too moronic to realize this
This scene was a cool idea but they fricked it up, just like everything else in Disney Star Wars. It should have been shown in full at the beginning of the episode with ONE flash back near the climax. The show runners here clearly have no concept of juxtaposition and don’t respect their audience’s memory. Also, while Hayden looks too old, Ewan looks fricking NOTHING like Obi Wan does in any of the prequels. He’s completely emaciated and his hair is thinning and cut entirely wrong. That’s fine for washed up tattooing Obi but it looks awful alongside Anakin in Coruscant. Also, theres no fricking subtlety here with Anakin’s dark sidedness. It basically seems like he’s just trying to kill Obi Wan and nobody in his shoes would not sound the alarm on Anakin being evil. More prequel tier moronation.
his face what the frick happened ?
Disney Wars is worse by a considerable margin.
>prequel defense is just saying disney is worse
I hate both of you gays
>It appears that you're criticizing the prequel films, so that makes you automatically a Disney shill.
>Daisy Ridley was charismatic as hell
THIS IS WHAT DISNEY WARS FANS ACTUALLY BELIEVE
I like how she made all the :O and :F faces over and over again, she looks really great in a deepfake vid at least. Too bad Carrie Fisher vids are still better.
> OH NONONONOOOO
Prequel bros, you are just as bad as Marvel fans but probably worse, to this date, zoomers are still overanalyzing prequel scenes and onions out every time an actor is actually acting or when souless GCI becomes le "cinematography". No amount of excuses can make these movies good, even if you use fancy words like "literature", "Shakespearean", etc. Also ring theory is cringe too.
Spending so much time on reddit doesn't seem healthy for you, underage anon.
Reddltors are bottom-of-the-barrel brainlets who encourage each other's delusions and justify each other's mindless fanboying. They simply can't handle the fact that something they enjoy can be objectively bad, all that matters to them is their subjective opinions.
The prequels are operatic. Nothing Disney has put out is even close to being operatic.
>he prequels are operatic
My favorite scene in Pagliacci is when Canio holds Tonio's tongue to stop him from eating
>operatic: extravagantly theatrical
extravagantly theatrical sums up pretty much everything in the prequels. so yes even jar jar at his worst is a prime example of extravagantly theatrical.
>operatic
This is a joke right?
Star Wars fans get what they deserve.
Before the PT I always imagined Anakin as having become Vader in his 20s or even 30s after he became a full Jedi Knight for several years, and with Obi-Wan already significantly older in his 40s or 50s.
I also thought the PT would cover at least one full adventure of Anakin and Obi-Wan fighting bad guys in the Clone Wars that had nothing at all to do with the force.
It's so weird that the second Anakin puts on the suit he sounds like an old black guy.
That's another thing. I assumed Vader's injuries were much worse than they were in ROTS. Somewhere I got the idea he had fallen entirely into a source of molten lava or metal yet had survived due to the incredible technology available in the SW universe.
Now from what we've seen the story would have to be that Vader is intentionally handicapped more than he needs to be since there are so many other stories in the Star Wars universe showing technology that could make life better for him.
This. Bacta cures burned skin and we've seen with Grievous that cyborg limbs can be really light, quick, and flexible
He was supposed to be an awkward but earnest teenager in AotC. He isn't like that anymore in RotS.
I wouldn't say amazing, but Anakin is a socially moronic kid with a savior complex. He should be pretty awkward.
I wanted to see more of human vader. There should have been a time leap between two movies where he turns to Vader at the end of one, then years pass, and then he gets in the suit at the end of the PT.
Then we could have EU stuff and interquel movies with human Vader.
mystifying Darth Vader was the worst thing about the prequels
you mean demystifying?
they took the emperor's muscle and turned him into a Shakespearean tragedy hero archetype who was the most important most powerful prophecy child in the entire galaxy
But they had already done that in the OT other than the prophecy part.
nah in the OT he was just a flawed man who betrayed his friend and fell to the darkside but was brought back to the light and redeemed with the help of his son before he died. His power came from his own skill of the force and surpassing Obi Wan and betraying him.
In the Prequels he was born from a miracle of the force, had the biggest midichlorian count ever recorded, was said to be the prophesied savior to bring balance to the force. His skill as a jedi came from mystical space magic making him into some kind of supernatural big bad boss man from a video game.
Problem is the tragedy is done terribly in the prequels. Anakin is a whiny butthole and he falls for the dark side due to being a moron.
I think the reason he falls is pretty reasonable, but it feels rushed. His whole thing was wanting to save Padme from his visions and redeem himself from failing to save his mother. Jumping straight into killing the entire Jedi temple is a bit off from his original intentions, they could have led up to that more.
Yeah, there’s no real gradual progression. His whole turn to Vader happens in just 30 minutes
The prequels sucked and nostalgia doesn't change that.
But they're still enjoyable because they're unapologetically cringe.
Aside: prophecies ruin a lot of fiction because fans get obsessed with it and it gets in the way of telling a more interesting story. See also: ASOIAF.
Star Wars was better when it didn't have prophecies associated with it.
They're kind of hokey, too.
Anakin should’ve been an older man in revenge of the sith. Starting the trilogy with him being a little kid in phantom menace was a terrible idea
>15–16 in the phantom menace
>20-25 in attack of the clones
>30-35 in revenge of the sith
Revenge of the Sith is STILL the best Star Wars movie
based image. The prequels suck and the Disney wars suck also. I will say this, at least the prequels have some SOVL to them thanks to Lucas’ unrefined autism. The guy is clearly on the spectrum and never coming down. Disney shit is too corporate to even be interesting in that regard
this. i miss when shitposting about the prequels was still a thing. now you cant have it without election tourist zoomers coming in and saying youre a RLMdrone and to beg for lucas' forgiveness
Turning Anakin into a remorseless child killer was the worst decision Lucas ever made. Takes away from the tragedy, makes Anakin look like a total psychopath that was always destined to fall to the dark side. Betraying the Jedi order and his best friend was enough
>Blows up a planet, on which there would have been millions of children
>Murders underlings in cold blood at the slightest hint of insubordination
>Attempts to kill his teenage son
>Tries again
>Is implied to have personally hunted down and wiped out all of the Jedi
>Killing the younglings of a monastic order who have been brainwashed into following what you yourself have been brainwashed into thinking is an evil way of life is suddenly too far
Reminder that its autistic sad fricks like OP that made sequels happen
"Anakin should have been older" is such a braindead take, the main for his fall to the dark side is his attachment issues, specifically because he was taken away from his mother a such a crucial time during his formative years and was unable to save her, leading to him becoming obsessed with power and saving Padme. If Anakin was like 15 when he was taken away from his mother she would have either died pretty immediately or when he was even older, in both cases it wouldn't have had such a profound effect on him. Also, Padme is attracted to Anakin's naiveite as someone younger and more idealistic than herself. This is accentuated in Attack of the Clones when they talk about how Padme is getting tired of politics and the reality of how things are run, while Anakin has a much more naïve "somebody should just fix everything" viewpoint.
In these people's minds, does the prequels being bad somehow make Kenobi good? (That's disregarding the image being obvious bait made in bad faith.)