not op but comics have been dogshit since 2015 at least
and w them going mainstream and involving and catering to the exact kind of empty cloutchasers this insecure pathetic generation of writers always wanted approval from, its over
comics are just something to pimp so like the mainstream does everything. and the losers who are writing rn cant even fathom self respect and pride in your stories and industry
don't they have the death sentence in the 616 universe? I'd suspect that with super powered beings, they would be more favorable to commit repeating criminals to death
Only one I can think of is Alistair Smythe, the Spider-Slayer in Superior Spider-Man. And it was explicitly stated that it only happened because Mayor Jameson pulled some strings because Smythe killed his wife.
Ah Fallen Sun, the comic that everyone pretends never happened because it pulled shit out of the writer's ass like Sentry and Rouge were a couple. It read like one of those OC marysue self insert stories but it was officially published by Marvel. Weird thing to bring this decade old comic up, OP.
I have never and will never understand that fricking argument.
Batman catches the joker, stops him from murdering more people.
Joker escapes from arkham, kills some people,
20 goto 10.
At what point in this endless cycle does the clear, continuous cycle of violence become the Batman's problem, and not the Joker's?
At what point do we have to acknowledge that Batman is valuing his own moral certitude over the lives of innocent people?
At what point does it become Batman's vanity that's the real problem?
Shouldn't you be asking why the Joker gets the insanity plea even though in real life he wouldn't be eligible because he isn't compelled to do what he does and is aware of the consequences of his actions? And why he gets sent to Arkham asylum instead of a maximum security prison and likely shot on sight if he managed to escape? Turns out that Batman isn't the problem. It's DC's justice system.
This. I used to think that Batman writing as a character was the problem. It isn't, it's the setting that is the problem. Of course, it's a comic, so they need to milk the characters as long they can, specially iconic ones likes the Joker.
The biggest trick the joker can play on batman is killing a family, rasing the kid, give the kid a gun and tell batman the kid is going to revenge the death of the parents by shooting him(joker) what decision would batman take? Save a life even if its joker or frick you joker?
No because Joker just wanted to mess with Jason, in my idea we wanted to be killed off.
It's just funny to me to imagine Batman being "you've gone too far this time Jokerr! Nooo! I'm not allowing you devilish plan to have a nice day to work"
In context, Joker had planted bombs all over the city and was the only one who knew where they were, Batman needed him alive for questioning. Of course, Joker didn't tell them where the bombs were anyway and the plot had to be foiled some other way, making the whole thing feel forced.
How is that batman's problem?
Isn't the fault all on the hands of the Arkham asylum shitty security system? It's obvious they are corrupt and making sky rocket profit from these criminals being on the streets. They are free ads for mental disabilities.
Batman is like a cop. How would you feel if cops walked around killing people on spot, deciding who gets to live and die? Also, batman is a fictional character, don't reply to me and stop applying any logic to it
>Arkham
That's the problem. A criminal with Joker record and file wouldn't be sent to a private asylum, even more the same in the same place he committed crimes over and over. He would be wisked by federal authorities long before his first return to Arkham. Joker is a mass murderers and a terrorist, he would be at DCU Guantanamo a thousand timer over.
Pretty sure the courts do that. I mean, yes, Batman personally drops off villains at Arkham all the time, but only because that's where they're mandated to go.
Woops turns out Wayne foundation lobbyid the state to remove the death penalty and send every criminal to Arkham Asylum wich he also lobbyid to underfund in favor of subsidies for his companys.
>Sentry is the strongest hero, has the highest morality, and fricked several hot women on multiple hero teams
I don't how anyone thought this was a good idea
I've read this like 10 times and I still don't understand the point the writer is trying to convey. My brain is actually starting to hurt, can someone please explain what the frick I'm reading with more context?
The problem is editors not doing their work and not telling a writer where he can stick his murder porn.
The Wrecker is a piece of shit and a murderer, but he's not Carnage or Sabretooth.
You have to set some red lines about what a villain is allowed to do.
After him murdering a whole bus of children, I'm supposed to believe some heroes like Thor or Wolverine won't kill him at sight? That Cap will casually chat with him at Creel's "funerals"?
If the story makes the villain impossible to be used unless the other writers ignore said story, then the story should not be told, at least not with that particular villain.
Same with Absorbing Man raping and murdering Stonewall's mother. Dr Doom destroying a whole universe in front of Blue Marvel. Spider-Man's pal Boomerang sadistically murdering Jackpot's husband in front of her and her daughter
The Wrecker is a villain, but he would never murder a bus full of children for the lulz. He's in it for the money and occasionally revenge against the heroes who keep kicking his ass. They really should have used a different villain for this scene.
You kill your enemies they win
They were all goyim kids so Ben doesn’t considered it a win
A shitty one-shot from 12 years that no one fricking cares about is why you don't read comics?
not op but comics have been dogshit since 2015 at least
and w them going mainstream and involving and catering to the exact kind of empty cloutchasers this insecure pathetic generation of writers always wanted approval from, its over
comics are just something to pimp so like the mainstream does everything. and the losers who are writing rn cant even fathom self respect and pride in your stories and industry
don't they have the death sentence in the 616 universe? I'd suspect that with super powered beings, they would be more favorable to commit repeating criminals to death
Name one supervillain that was given the death sentence.
Only one I can think of is Alistair Smythe, the Spider-Slayer in Superior Spider-Man. And it was explicitly stated that it only happened because Mayor Jameson pulled some strings because Smythe killed his wife.
Yeah that one-shot was such a moronic character wank
Ah Fallen Sun, the comic that everyone pretends never happened because it pulled shit out of the writer's ass like Sentry and Rouge were a couple. It read like one of those OC marysue self insert stories but it was officially published by Marvel. Weird thing to bring this decade old comic up, OP.
>Sentry and Rouge were a couple
I will forever love this comic for how much salty butthurt it’s still causing, years later.
Paul Jenkins?
I have never and will never understand that fricking argument.
Batman catches the joker, stops him from murdering more people.
Joker escapes from arkham, kills some people,
20 goto 10.
At what point in this endless cycle does the clear, continuous cycle of violence become the Batman's problem, and not the Joker's?
At what point do we have to acknowledge that Batman is valuing his own moral certitude over the lives of innocent people?
At what point does it become Batman's vanity that's the real problem?
Shouldn't you be asking why the Joker gets the insanity plea even though in real life he wouldn't be eligible because he isn't compelled to do what he does and is aware of the consequences of his actions? And why he gets sent to Arkham asylum instead of a maximum security prison and likely shot on sight if he managed to escape? Turns out that Batman isn't the problem. It's DC's justice system.
This. I used to think that Batman writing as a character was the problem. It isn't, it's the setting that is the problem. Of course, it's a comic, so they need to milk the characters as long they can, specially iconic ones likes the Joker.
People ask that, but it's obvious that the system doens't work, so why does Batman still rely on it?
The biggest trick the joker can play on batman is killing a family, rasing the kid, give the kid a gun and tell batman the kid is going to revenge the death of the parents by shooting him(joker) what decision would batman take? Save a life even if its joker or frick you joker?
>Save a life even if its joker
You already know the answer to this.
Isn't that just Jason Todd?
No because Joker just wanted to mess with Jason, in my idea we wanted to be killed off.
It's just funny to me to imagine Batman being "you've gone too far this time Jokerr! Nooo! I'm not allowing you devilish plan to have a nice day to work"
>"These people will have to wait. Save this man first!"
This one never fails to make me laugh. What's Batman's problem?
In context, Joker had planted bombs all over the city and was the only one who knew where they were, Batman needed him alive for questioning. Of course, Joker didn't tell them where the bombs were anyway and the plot had to be foiled some other way, making the whole thing feel forced.
Individuals shouldn't have the right to be judge, jury, and executioner.
they should and actually are in self defense scenarios
>thread about Ben Grimm
>anon seethes about Batman instead
DC heroes really do live rent free in Mousecuck heads.
How is that batman's problem?
Isn't the fault all on the hands of the Arkham asylum shitty security system? It's obvious they are corrupt and making sky rocket profit from these criminals being on the streets. They are free ads for mental disabilities.
Batman is like a cop. How would you feel if cops walked around killing people on spot, deciding who gets to live and die? Also, batman is a fictional character, don't reply to me and stop applying any logic to it
>Arkham
That's the problem. A criminal with Joker record and file wouldn't be sent to a private asylum, even more the same in the same place he committed crimes over and over. He would be wisked by federal authorities long before his first return to Arkham. Joker is a mass murderers and a terrorist, he would be at DCU Guantanamo a thousand timer over.
>Arkham doesn't work
>Batman keeps sending Joker to Arkham
Batman is either moronic or just doesn't care.
Pretty sure the courts do that. I mean, yes, Batman personally drops off villains at Arkham all the time, but only because that's where they're mandated to go.
The point is that the system is obviously broken, yet Batman keeps trusting it, which results in the deaths of innocent people.
Woops turns out Wayne foundation lobbyid the state to remove the death penalty and send every criminal to Arkham Asylum wich he also lobbyid to underfund in favor of subsidies for his companys.
>Sentry is the strongest hero, has the highest morality, and fricked several hot women on multiple hero teams
I don't how anyone thought this was a good idea
I've read this like 10 times and I still don't understand the point the writer is trying to convey. My brain is actually starting to hurt, can someone please explain what the frick I'm reading with more context?
The problem is editors not doing their work and not telling a writer where he can stick his murder porn.
The Wrecker is a piece of shit and a murderer, but he's not Carnage or Sabretooth.
You have to set some red lines about what a villain is allowed to do.
After him murdering a whole bus of children, I'm supposed to believe some heroes like Thor or Wolverine won't kill him at sight? That Cap will casually chat with him at Creel's "funerals"?
If the story makes the villain impossible to be used unless the other writers ignore said story, then the story should not be told, at least not with that particular villain.
Same with Absorbing Man raping and murdering Stonewall's mother. Dr Doom destroying a whole universe in front of Blue Marvel. Spider-Man's pal Boomerang sadistically murdering Jackpot's husband in front of her and her daughter
The Wrecker is a villain, but he would never murder a bus full of children for the lulz. He's in it for the money and occasionally revenge against the heroes who keep kicking his ass. They really should have used a different villain for this scene.
I would have used Nitro, since we actually saw him blow up a school of children.
I read a lot of comics and never came across this before, because I know better.