Yea it did. What’s it to you? It was a very Christian scene. It reminded me of my favorite Bible verse: >ye shall they rise as light as air to smite the enemies of Christ.
Yeah. Even if the worm can't get them while they're on the top of the plateau, making sure you can't go down to the sand again might put a damper on any plans of leaving.
But they arrived via a ship. It could just pick them up from the plateau.
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Yeah but that ship had to go away...for no good reason
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Everything about the scene is nonsense. Why did they even land? Do they just look randomly around the open desert on foot? Why not just scout via ornithopter? Why not land on the plateau and look around with binoculars?
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Its sort of an adaptation of the book chapter where Hawat watches Fremen fight the Sardaukar patrol but moronized so the tactics make no sense
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I just fricking love the Harkonnen House Troopers in DUNC 2 aesthetically. They’re the best looking goons in the films so far.
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Do you mean the Sardaukar?
I prefer the miniseries. More over-the-top and full of campy design instead "realistic except when the plot says so."
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Nah specifically the Harkonnen goons.
Every other trooper design is ass IMO and I especially prefer the miniseries Sardaukar.
I do like the old Harkonnens too, they’re definitely less brutal / utilitarian and more campy ostentatious villain troops which is fun.
The fremen were already at war with the emperors own troops and the harkojobbers
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If they start nuking they'll be exterminated by everyone. Paul takes care to only nuke a mountain because if he directly nuked the Emperor and his troops no one would recognize him as ruler, Irulan or no Irulan
>1. Who gangs up on who?
Harkonnen use a nuke so it's okay for other houses to use a nuke? Or the emperor? Nukes are banned, aren't they? "Stand-off" instantly fails once a nuke is used. >2. "Kamikaze" singular lasgun on a shield will kill that single Fremen, yeah. And nuclear bomb the entire Harkonnen house/city of Arrakeen. In fact, if they ever, EVER use a shield, just send one single kamikaze soldier and you're basically getting free nukes over and over and over.
So off-worlders are stuck; use a shield = get lasgun nuked. Don't use a shield = get lasgun obliterated. If Frank Herbert claims Holtzman-Shields PROTECT from nukes, then an actual atomic bomb means nothing. If Holtzman-Shields don't protect from nukes, WHAT PURPOSE do they even serve? If anything, using a shield in the presence of a lasgun simply creates MORE "nukes" from all sorts of possibilities. Millions more "nukes" than ever before. >3. Shields protect against projectiles.
And are banned to use on Arrakis because "insane Worm = Armageddon." Apparently. Btw, since no one uses shields on Arrakis, try nuking the Fremen, Vlad. >4. Nuking spice fields will cause a domino effect that kills all worms and ends spice production.
So, the Spacing Guild, Bene Gessirit, Emperor, Houses, and all humans across the galaxy... ARE NOT AFRAID OF PAUL. They're afraid of a nuke going off on Arrakis. In which case, Paul threatening terrorism with a nuke is no scarier than that FEYD could make THE EXACT SAME THREAT and demand the same things. Anyone could. Vladimir could. Irulan could. Leto II could. Duncan 12433 could. Some criminal who stole one in some bizarre pirate happenstance could. Paul's not scary at all; 1 atomic warhead on Arrakis is. It's pure bluffing. Emperor Christopher Walken could threaten to nuke a spice field if Paul doesn't obey; the outcome is identical. And Paul doesn't want it to happen just as much as cowbell. Paul might be more afraid than anyone of it happening.
Nothing's changed.
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Shields are not banned on dune, they just send about 50 or so worms at you.
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So what? Let 'em.
BETTER than that, that draws about 50 worms AWAY from a harvester and all kinds of fields, too. Zero risk.
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You can't expect reasoning from hackbertcels
You just gotta treat the story as pew pew big worm big
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Ultimately, that's all Frank/David/Denis all could do: require you to never question why. It's not fair, to them, if you point out flaws.
It's almost like Dune was meant more to be some sort of "Aesop's Fable" than "political warning."
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>Make a political/philosophical story >Conclude the story with a bluff and the hero wins 100% >Audience points out flaws in the politics and philosophy >"Psshhh. It's just a book."
Thanks, Frank.
>Adapt a political/philosophical story >Conclude the story with a bluff and the hero wins everything except his wife >Audience points out flaws in the politics, philosophy, and visuals denoting outright hypocrisy >Fans point out censorship, lies, and outright changing script & characters >"No fair! You...y-you just don't get it! I'm the one who understands!"
Thanks, Denis.
Nobody flew in the book, right? Also, this scene made me realize that unless the fremen carried around leaf blowers they would have left tracks everywhere they went, this making it nearly impossible to move stealthily.
Yes. In the book he had some technology to hold his fat but no one flew with anti-gravity devices.
It's a dumb movie thing because movies are fricking dumb.
“If only we had suspensors, Jessica thought. It’d be such a simple matter to jump down there. But perhaps suspensors are another thing to avoid in the open desert. Maybe they attract the worms the way a shield does.”
You homosexual I will take a picture of the page when I get home
it cancels your weight but not completely, they can fall slower and go up with an impulse like a balloon, light but not lighter than air so you don't fly
It's called suspensor technology, dude can float around because he's fat as frick and can't move on his own but can do that those guys are doing in the clip.
>Hovering devices called suspensors utilize the "secondary (low-drain) phase of a Holtzman field generator" to nullify gravity "within certain limits prescribed by relative mass and energy consumption." Suspensors are used in chairs, tables, and structures that are too massive to be physically sound, among other uses. In Dune, the grotesquely obese Baron Vladimir Harkonnen utilizes suspensor belts and harnesses to buoy his flesh and allow him to walk. In Dune, Jessica theorizes that suspensors, like shields, attract sandworms.
>this made Cinemaphiletards collectively piss and shit themselves
It looks so stupid and obvious that they're on wires, especially when they push themselves around. They are on a set path rather than actually acting like human balloons
It was a smart move of Villeneuve to start the movie with this ridiculous scene, because you don't know yet what a mess the movie is so can't be the first one to laugh in the theater when you're expecting to see an oh-so-serious important piece of art
I hate you and twitter sёy gays equally.
It was a neat scene setting the tone that's all.
Now twitter sissies had to lose their minds screaming how it's le peak cinema and now contrarian fricks can't refrain themselves from shitposting about it furiously non-stop.
I am getting tired of this idiotic world. Before the internet I couldn't even imagine how many stupid people I have to share this planet with.
The scene was nonsensical dogshit. Not one Villavue cultist can explain where the Fremen were shooting from. No one can explain the one soldier descended to the ground and drew his sword. No one can explain why Jessica said "Never turn your back to the open" while she had her back to the open...the same direction she is chastizing Paul for looking.
So how long will they wait to do a third movie and why will it be about 10 years when everyone well beyond lost interest. They already did that with House of the Dragon. And they'll do the same with the Fallout show for season 2.
I loved DUNC two but this scene made me check if I was having a stroke.
No idea who thought that was a good take, or a good scene.
Man Zendaya sucks in this movie.
>She is often described as being "elfin," with youthful beauty (37.91), and her voice has "[s]uch feminine allure in [a] girl-child's voice" (34.177). >skinny with an elfin face and had pure, dark blue eyes with no white in them. She had long tawny-red hair.
Tell me of your homeworld, Usul.
It's a neat short scene pefectly edited for brainfried tiktok gays with the attention span of a fruit fly, what's not to get. Expect more shorts like this in the future when zoomers are at the helm of movies and tv shows.
So... why didn't all those flying aircraft machine gun down the slow-running sandrats as they start charging 7 miles away from the base? And it's even canon in the film that ornithopters have shields.
What about artillery?
No, seriously, just shoot the charging humans. A worm is going to come by and kill them all because of all that stomping and running anyway. Just fly away when it does. Or bomb it for Fremen ride it or something.
>Entire army, fully dressed and armored, sprints across the sand to fight
100m Olympians sprint for just 10 seconds and are physically wasted after that. What genius told an entire desert army to run a mile before starting Tae Kwon Do?
I haven't seen part 2, yet, but this webm seems dumb. Why not float around all the time like a chad instead of running up dunes like a homosexual non-floater??
you guys are so obnoxious policing every little rule. does this not get tiring? doesnt it get tiring writing the word 'hecking' every day and copying a post from like 2016?
herbert wanted a sci fi series where people fight with swords. it is so hilariously easy to sit down and poke holes in this that its not worth most peoples time, are you guys watching those youtube video essays on how to beat horror movie monsters?
its so trite dude! its so gay! how about using that big brain to poke holes in actual mathematical proofs or something
paul uses the spacing guild's prescience and risk aversion against them, the movie doesnt need to have 6 hours of exposition to nerdproof it against your awesome knowledge of nukes
>you guys are so obnoxious policing every little rule
The principle rule of Dune is "no nukes OR ELSE!" Zero indication of what "else" is.
The story is concluded with "obey me OR ELSE: NUKES!" The galaxy submits.
For as much as Paul "terrorist Abomination" bluffs Armageddon, he enacts Armageddon anyway.
For as much as Paul "prophetic messiah" threatens nuclear suicide... anyone could.
This story, and now adapted-from-book-film, announces politics and philosophy and prognostication about national futures in a condescending but hard-studied platform: a warning about what's coming.
And yet, it shown "nope, I win," and "the end." Whenever anyone points out, "but you said..." they get instant rebuking/rebuttal of "not right now" and "no fair, my story, you're wrong." It seems less childish to point out hypocrisy than to defend fantasy. What lesson is learned from this fable? "Believe lies. Don't question me."
Yeah, it did and I'm tired of pretending it didn't.
It was kino and I loved it.
Bizarre reaction. Shit's kino.
It was so kino I had to step outside and contemplate
Yea it did. What’s it to you? It was a very Christian scene. It reminded me of my favorite Bible verse:
>ye shall they rise as light as air to smite the enemies of Christ.
HOLY SHIT HE’S JESUS!!!!!!
Yeah that was a pretty cool scene. Fun movie.
It looks great, actual cinematography. Lynchtards having meltie.
>actual cinematography
I hate when people use words they don't know the meaning of.
Yeah. Never seen anything like it before.
>go way the frick up on a plateau
>get sniped
>doesn't turn on shields because sandworms...?
Yes, shields attract worms.
they were way the frick up on a damn plateau, worm really detects that through 50ft of solid rock?
stop thinking about it
Yeah. Even if the worm can't get them while they're on the top of the plateau, making sure you can't go down to the sand again might put a damper on any plans of leaving.
But they arrived via a ship. It could just pick them up from the plateau.
Yeah but that ship had to go away...for no good reason
Everything about the scene is nonsense. Why did they even land? Do they just look randomly around the open desert on foot? Why not just scout via ornithopter? Why not land on the plateau and look around with binoculars?
Its sort of an adaptation of the book chapter where Hawat watches Fremen fight the Sardaukar patrol but moronized so the tactics make no sense
I just fricking love the Harkonnen House Troopers in DUNC 2 aesthetically. They’re the best looking goons in the films so far.
Do you mean the Sardaukar?
I prefer the miniseries. More over-the-top and full of campy design instead "realistic except when the plot says so."
Nah specifically the Harkonnen goons.
Every other trooper design is ass IMO and I especially prefer the miniseries Sardaukar.
I do like the old Harkonnens too, they’re definitely less brutal / utilitarian and more campy ostentatious villain troops which is fun.
They have shielded spaceships. It's how they got out to the desert PLANET in the first place. Call 'em to pick you up.
Are these things even on the movies?
And?
>The worms go insane!
So what? Let 'em. It's not like they can reach you on the rock-face mountain, anyway.
using a laser on a shield causes a nuclear explosion basically. so if they got shot with a shield on, everyone else dies.
Why didn't they use laser on the fly boys during the harvester fight?
because the nuclear explosion would probably kill them as well
So give the lasgun to one single kamikaze Fremen and shoot the city of Arrakeen.
DONE!
>No! It's not allowed! There are space-rules!
And the jihad Fremen billionaire killers obey that???
>Stop thinking!
Oh.
when I read this all I could think about was that hyper space scene in star wars where the one ship slices the other into pieces
Hebertgays cannot refute this
Using lasers and shields this way deliberately is treated like using a nuke and everyone gangs up on you for that
The fremen were already at war with the emperors own troops and the harkojobbers
If they start nuking they'll be exterminated by everyone. Paul takes care to only nuke a mountain because if he directly nuked the Emperor and his troops no one would recognize him as ruler, Irulan or no Irulan
>1. Who gangs up on who?
Harkonnen use a nuke so it's okay for other houses to use a nuke? Or the emperor? Nukes are banned, aren't they? "Stand-off" instantly fails once a nuke is used.
>2. "Kamikaze" singular lasgun on a shield will kill that single Fremen, yeah. And nuclear bomb the entire Harkonnen house/city of Arrakeen. In fact, if they ever, EVER use a shield, just send one single kamikaze soldier and you're basically getting free nukes over and over and over.
So off-worlders are stuck; use a shield = get lasgun nuked. Don't use a shield = get lasgun obliterated. If Frank Herbert claims Holtzman-Shields PROTECT from nukes, then an actual atomic bomb means nothing. If Holtzman-Shields don't protect from nukes, WHAT PURPOSE do they even serve? If anything, using a shield in the presence of a lasgun simply creates MORE "nukes" from all sorts of possibilities. Millions more "nukes" than ever before.
>3. Shields protect against projectiles.
And are banned to use on Arrakis because "insane Worm = Armageddon." Apparently. Btw, since no one uses shields on Arrakis, try nuking the Fremen, Vlad.
>4. Nuking spice fields will cause a domino effect that kills all worms and ends spice production.
So, the Spacing Guild, Bene Gessirit, Emperor, Houses, and all humans across the galaxy... ARE NOT AFRAID OF PAUL. They're afraid of a nuke going off on Arrakis. In which case, Paul threatening terrorism with a nuke is no scarier than that FEYD could make THE EXACT SAME THREAT and demand the same things. Anyone could. Vladimir could. Irulan could. Leto II could. Duncan 12433 could. Some criminal who stole one in some bizarre pirate happenstance could. Paul's not scary at all; 1 atomic warhead on Arrakis is. It's pure bluffing. Emperor Christopher Walken could threaten to nuke a spice field if Paul doesn't obey; the outcome is identical. And Paul doesn't want it to happen just as much as cowbell. Paul might be more afraid than anyone of it happening.
Nothing's changed.
Shields are not banned on dune, they just send about 50 or so worms at you.
So what? Let 'em.
BETTER than that, that draws about 50 worms AWAY from a harvester and all kinds of fields, too. Zero risk.
You can't expect reasoning from hackbertcels
You just gotta treat the story as pew pew big worm big
Ultimately, that's all Frank/David/Denis all could do: require you to never question why. It's not fair, to them, if you point out flaws.
It's almost like Dune was meant more to be some sort of "Aesop's Fable" than "political warning."
>Make a political/philosophical story
>Conclude the story with a bluff and the hero wins 100%
>Audience points out flaws in the politics and philosophy
>"Psshhh. It's just a book."
Thanks, Frank.
>Adapt a political/philosophical story
>Conclude the story with a bluff and the hero wins everything except his wife
>Audience points out flaws in the politics, philosophy, and visuals denoting outright hypocrisy
>Fans point out censorship, lies, and outright changing script & characters
>"No fair! You...y-you just don't get it! I'm the one who understands!"
Thanks, Denis.
weee!
Looks like they're all asked by Fatboy Slim just like their Emperor.
>They fly now?
had me howling
When the edibles kick in
In my backyard enjoying the sun on edibles, can confirm
actually it was a cool scene
these space marine guys using really high tech shit to chase fremen around the desert, then getting dumpstered anyways
Lisan al Gaib
Nobody flew in the book, right? Also, this scene made me realize that unless the fremen carried around leaf blowers they would have left tracks everywhere they went, this making it nearly impossible to move stealthily.
Yes. In the book he had some technology to hold his fat but no one flew with anti-gravity devices.
It's a dumb movie thing because movies are fricking dumb.
Jessica mentions that she wished her and Paul had suspensors to quickly descend a cliff. No reason to think you couldn't use them to also jump higher.
Part 2 was way more dumb plot reasons like completely ignoring the spacing guild.
It's possible you're thinking of a different book or adaptation, or that this is a mistaken memory.
“If only we had suspensors, Jessica thought. It’d be such a simple matter to jump down there. But perhaps suspensors are another thing to avoid in the open desert. Maybe they attract the worms the way a shield does.”
You homosexual I will take a picture of the page when I get home
it was fricking sick tbqhf
Probably the greatest scene ever filmed yet Cinemaphile scoffs at it
KINO
Maybe i missed the explanation, but how did they do it? Anti-gravity tech?
They farted really hard.
it cancels your weight but not completely, they can fall slower and go up with an impulse like a balloon, light but not lighter than air so you don't fly
the Baron just floats though, he doesn't do impulse jumps or anything
It's called suspensor technology, dude can float around because he's fat as frick and can't move on his own but can do that those guys are doing in the clip.
>he needs an explanation for everything to understand it
There should be an iq warning at the beginning of all modern media
kek I can see a picture now of the dumb dribbling onions faces sat in a theatre with a warning on the screen
>Anti-gravity tech?
yeah kinda, same thing the baron uses
Gravity on Arrakis is really low, they're just jumping
>explanation
Media literacy.
>Hovering devices called suspensors utilize the "secondary (low-drain) phase of a Holtzman field generator" to nullify gravity "within certain limits prescribed by relative mass and energy consumption." Suspensors are used in chairs, tables, and structures that are too massive to be physically sound, among other uses. In Dune, the grotesquely obese Baron Vladimir Harkonnen utilizes suspensor belts and harnesses to buoy his flesh and allow him to walk. In Dune, Jessica theorizes that suspensors, like shields, attract sandworms.
It looks so stupid and obvious that they're on wires, especially when they push themselves around. They are on a set path rather than actually acting like human balloons
It was a smart move of Villeneuve to start the movie with this ridiculous scene, because you don't know yet what a mess the movie is so can't be the first one to laugh in the theater when you're expecting to see an oh-so-serious important piece of art
Because it was an actual cool science fiction scene in a supposed science fiction film where everything else was primitives with knives in a desert
I hate you and twitter sёy gays equally.
It was a neat scene setting the tone that's all.
Now twitter sissies had to lose their minds screaming how it's le peak cinema and now contrarian fricks can't refrain themselves from shitposting about it furiously non-stop.
I am getting tired of this idiotic world. Before the internet I couldn't even imagine how many stupid people I have to share this planet with.
You didn't own a mirror?
lmao, was this weak shit supposed to be some kind of epic own? gtfo the internet, fricking child.
What's wrong with this scene? I don't watch TV and go to the movies 3 times each year max.
Nothing is wrong with it. It’s just the latest designated battleground for screeching morons.
It looks cool and there's a contingent on Cinemaphile dedicated to proving the movie is bad.
>there's a contingent on Cinemaphile dedicated to proving the movie is bad
I hate those chuds!
>Thing good? heh nothin personnel kid but good thing... bad. TRIGGERED?
It's a good scene. No need to seethe.
The yellow looks like George Lucas if he were in profile
this reminds me of how not kino enders game was. anti-gravity shit should be kino.
I'm 20 minutes in and already got bored. Fact Zendaya is ugly as a sin isnt helping...will the movie get better later on?
zoomers were a mistake.
>Zendaya is ugly as a sin
Chuds leave
They have antigravity craft everywhere but they also use flappy ornithopters because...?
Frank wrote "dude, wouldn't it be cool if...?"
That was the exact moment i knew i'd be in for 160 mins of pure kino
The scene was nonsensical dogshit. Not one Villavue cultist can explain where the Fremen were shooting from. No one can explain the one soldier descended to the ground and drew his sword. No one can explain why Jessica said "Never turn your back to the open" while she had her back to the open...the same direction she is chastizing Paul for looking.
This is awful bait.
Stop wasting asiaticmoot's server space.
I know that shooting a shield makes a big explosion but why hasn't either movie explained that?
Cause it never happens in them.
It only happens once ever in the book, it's almost entirely just a talking point.
kinda did. It was pretty cool.
So how long will they wait to do a third movie and why will it be about 10 years when everyone well beyond lost interest. They already did that with House of the Dragon. And they'll do the same with the Fallout show for season 2.
About 10 years is the right timeline to make the characters aging match the books for Messiah, actually.
Eh see you later then one ticket lost noone gives a frick about timelinenpassages
They fly now?
Imagine how good it'd be to do that yourself
Not even posting the most kino scene
I loved DUNC two but this scene made me check if I was having a stroke.
No idea who thought that was a good take, or a good scene.
Man Zendaya sucks in this movie.
Transcendent beauty
>She is often described as being "elfin," with youthful beauty (37.91), and her voice has "[s]uch feminine allure in [a] girl-child's voice" (34.177).
>skinny with an elfin face and had pure, dark blue eyes with no white in them. She had long tawny-red hair.
Tell me of your homeworld, Usul.
It's a neat short scene pefectly edited for brainfried tiktok gays with the attention span of a fruit fly, what's not to get. Expect more shorts like this in the future when zoomers are at the helm of movies and tv shows.
>Chani's Fedaykin
Bro what. They were Paul's death commandos in the book. Why even bother changing this?
Not really, but the sand Black folk running under de sand was beyond moronic.
Bravo Denis.
So... why didn't all those flying aircraft machine gun down the slow-running sandrats as they start charging 7 miles away from the base? And it's even canon in the film that ornithopters have shields.
What about artillery?
No, seriously, just shoot the charging humans. A worm is going to come by and kill them all because of all that stomping and running anyway. Just fly away when it does. Or bomb it for Fremen ride it or something.
Reminds me of the moronic Dark Knight Rises Cops vs Robbers melee
>Entire army, fully dressed and armored, sprints across the sand to fight
100m Olympians sprint for just 10 seconds and are physically wasted after that. What genius told an entire desert army to run a mile before starting Tae Kwon Do?
brrrrrrrrrrrr
> Leto II bans usury
> ~~*Historians*~~ call him a tyrant
hmmmmm
Didn't know this was from dunc 2. Thought they looked like Predators.
I haven't seen part 2, yet, but this webm seems dumb. Why not float around all the time like a chad instead of running up dunes like a homosexual non-floater??
you guys are so obnoxious policing every little rule. does this not get tiring? doesnt it get tiring writing the word 'hecking' every day and copying a post from like 2016?
herbert wanted a sci fi series where people fight with swords. it is so hilariously easy to sit down and poke holes in this that its not worth most peoples time, are you guys watching those youtube video essays on how to beat horror movie monsters?
its so trite dude! its so gay! how about using that big brain to poke holes in actual mathematical proofs or something
paul uses the spacing guild's prescience and risk aversion against them, the movie doesnt need to have 6 hours of exposition to nerdproof it against your awesome knowledge of nukes
>you guys are so obnoxious policing every little rule
The principle rule of Dune is "no nukes OR ELSE!" Zero indication of what "else" is.
The story is concluded with "obey me OR ELSE: NUKES!" The galaxy submits.
For as much as Paul "terrorist Abomination" bluffs Armageddon, he enacts Armageddon anyway.
For as much as Paul "prophetic messiah" threatens nuclear suicide... anyone could.
This story, and now adapted-from-book-film, announces politics and philosophy and prognostication about national futures in a condescending but hard-studied platform: a warning about what's coming.
And yet, it shown "nope, I win," and "the end." Whenever anyone points out, "but you said..." they get instant rebuking/rebuttal of "not right now" and "no fair, my story, you're wrong." It seems less childish to point out hypocrisy than to defend fantasy. What lesson is learned from this fable? "Believe lies. Don't question me."
chatgpt
Denis Villeneuve drops the Spacing Guild from any action in his adaptation of Frank Herbert's novel. Omits entire characters, too.
Both films I'm like why can the Harkonnen fly? I never got an answer. Denis is a hack.