This made no fricking sense holy shit
All abhorrent and ridiculous CGI aside, it was just moronic
>Barry, somehow knows how to recreate getting his powers not once, but twice
He basically has it down to a science at this point. The Flash is the most OP hero in probably all of capeshit, being able to create a new one just like that is so stupid. Why not just create an army of flashes and BTFO every single villain in the universe from that point.
>the whole Supergirl plot
>she basically has been a prisoner for her whole life on earth and in a day she decides to help humanity. And somehow knows English, despite being in a Russian jail this whole time. And for some reason Superman's dad decided to put whatever special DNA in his niece instead his son in that universe just because
>that fricking ending
So, the whole point of this movie was to teach Barry a lesson to not mess with nultiverse shit, butterfly effects, yadda yaddda and yet, he still does it, moving all those tomatoes cans on the top shelf saving his dad.
And it turns out his not in his own universe at all in the end anyway, meaning the whole muktiverse collapsing shit is probably still happening? What now? Is he stuck there. Its a good way to get of rim and just recast a new one for all those new movies, I guess.
And holy shit that ending. I was almost sure and kinda hyped that you will see Christian Bale getting out of the Mercedes in the end, but fricking Clooney? No one even remembesr him as batman lmao. I understand they can't get at least Kilmer cos hes basically dead, but fricking Clooney? I guess Bale wanted nothing to do with this shitshow since they didn't even have a small cameo with all those other ugly ones in the multiverse shit
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I haven't seen any of these threads point out the most glaring plot hole, they established at the beginning he needs to eat A LOT and starts losing his powers when too hungry he even has a meter telling him. So how the frick did the old one keep redoing the fight? Wouldn't he have run out of energy?
He had a snickers
Lol but it's really a stupid plot hole considering all the time spent establishing it earlier in the movie
he was eating all the time. just offscreen
When he was replaying the fight, there was no food their for him
I mean, you can explain it somehow, like maybe metabolism and shitnisnt even a thing in that out of time space they are. I know its moronic, but its capeshit magic whatever
But then again, he was actually getting older... yeah shit is dumb
>He was getting older
Exactly that's my point take that away and you can use mental gymnastics to justify it, but he's old so you can't it's just stupid
Well actually him being older means more cardio training under his belt which means his cells are efficient at using energy that younger barrys under trained cells....ergo older barry gets more out of less food....
Lmao that makes no sense he started doing that as the youngest Barry, how did he ever get to that age without dying from starvation first
That makes sense Because older barry has more training under his belt so his cells are more efficient at using energy. That explains how he doesnt need as much food. What dont you get?
Nice mental projections.
Now show me the scene in the film that states this.
Thats how cells work in your reality anon, no reason why they wouldnt work like that in the dc universe.
Its fiction. Reality =/= fiction. Youre a transexual arent you? How else can one explain your refusal to accept reality.
Your not getting this, he didn't start doing that when he was old, he started as the youngest Barry
What eating food and being hungry after exercise? Are you moronic? Have you never trained before? Exercise ramps up energy requirements, flash is moving extremely fast. Hes just listening to his body
Did you watch the movie? He lasts a few minutes using speed force then needs to eat more, when did he eat?
So air actually contains nitrogen of which he inhaled and his chemically altered cells created a chemical reaction to create a mini nitrogen bomb that he then used as energy...
Never go full moron, honestly it can be pretty easily explained by this
he's not stuck in the middle of the fight, he could run to the nearest town eat then run back to the fight I about 1second he would just do that every time before he tried to win again
The main problem is that it's a rule clearly established in the beginning and never touched on again. It was setup with no payoff. The payoff is you tards doing mental gymnastics to make it fit the movie, when in fact it was a bullshido gag that was placed AFTER the main parts of the movie were already either shot or written or put into a place where they couldn't change it. The same stupidity is also seen in ZSJL where he says a whole piece about being a "snack hole" but it doesn't become relevant what so ever afterwards. You talk like a gay and your shits all moronic.
You know you can offer a rebuttal or correction without hurling insults like an angry child
Remove the insults and everything I stated is still relevant and factual. "Cause it's fun Jan!" Is why I hurl insults to you frickeads, simple as.
Give him a break. He's underaged and autistic, but the stupid kinda autistic not the rain man kind
I'll back off if they post pics of their safety helmets and tard leashes
Fair
Frick this reminds me of this time in high school where there was this autistic Korean kid named Kang (I'm not making that up I swear). He was walking home from school one day and a bunch of people started throwing rocks at him from across the street. I just watched. Feels fricking bad man even though I didn't throw anything I still feel a little bad that I just stood there. Like injustice flash when supes beat the frick outta that aussie kid, except less cool.
I would've jumped in and tried to help but I had a saviour complex as a kid and would always defend the morons, thinking back though sometimes I shouldn't have they deserved it
I used to feel that way, even before the tard rock incident, up until I got my ass kicked cause I ipicked a fight with some bigger kids. I still feel bad cause I think helping that kid was morally and objectively correct but I just let it happen. It's not like I was or am some specimen of human physicality but it's not like the other kids were much bigger than me, there were just more of them. It just itches at the back of my head every now and then. I should let it go before I get stabbed one night trying to defend somebody I have no business defending cause I remember about kang
I got beat up a few times but I had some big friends, not really the point I stopped doing it because I finally realised jumping into situations I had no prior knowledge of was fricking stupid
>jumping into situations I had no prior knowledge of was fricking stupid
That's a good point. Context is everything. Except for the CGI in the chromosome. That shit sucks no matter what context and reason the director or defenders give.
Its not like he's stuck there, he makes a change, just to the universe to see how it works out, where he can eat meanwhile, then jumps back..
>Barry, somehow knows how to recreate getting his powers not once, but twice
Barry is actually a super genius. Not just in the movies, but the comics.
>The Flash is the most OP hero in probably all of capeshit, being able to create a new one just like that is so stupid. Why not just create an army of flashes and BTFO every single villain in the universe from that point.
That's been done. Also, Jay Garrick, the original flash, was made with velocity x or whatever, which is just speedforce serum.
>the whole Supergirl plot
Yes. It was moronic. But the one thing we can explain is that Supergirl knows english because the kryptonians have universal translator things injected in to them. They explained this in the MoS movie. But yeah, the fact that Kara dies in every single timeline is pretty shit.
>that fricking ending
Okay, so, that's actually pretty much how flashpoint always goes. Even in the comics. Barry gets to say goodbye to his mom, saves his dad, but ends up in an alternate timeline. What the movie doesn't explain is that Barry is also supposed to remember the past of that timeline along with the past of his original, and that if you stay in a specific timeline that isn't your own long enough, the timeline corrects itself by just merging you together with your other self and deleting the memories of the original timeline. Flash usually keeps his memories of both timelines because speedforce magic. Also the merging of muliversal selves lets you explain actor changes. New actor is simply what the Barry of that world always looked like, and millerflash got absorbed.
In the comics, one of the first things Barry does is develop a calorie bar that has like hundreds of times the daily calories needed for a normal person, and so all he does is eat one of those a day and never runs out of speed due to no calories. He's still a chronic snacker. But yes, his weakness to hunger has always been a thing, the movie is just shit at dealing with it.
Weakness to hunger and some fantasy snack bar is fine, one of those 2 things were not included in the movie, they should've just left it out all together if their wasn't going to be any payoff
That was where I was going with that, I hit the 2k character limit. But yes. The entire snack plot was moronic and unnecessary, especially for seasoned Flash. There's zero reason he shouldn't be eating his calorie bar, but still be a chronic snacker. I mean shit, I'd have a better time believing he procrastinated making a new batch of them because he got interrupted by something else, and the one bar he had left ends up getting lost/destroyed through some dumb asspull, just like the pizza thing, than believing that he still hasn't figured out the hyper dense calorie bar formula yet. It is such a basic flash 101 thing that it really tells me that none of the writers for this film actually read the source material.
Or say Bruce helped him out to make it, or even not I mean he's got the monitor watch, he is fully aware of the issue, why isn't he at least carrying protein bars on him at all times
It was fricking moronic. Seriously goes to show that the writers don't read or know the source material. If you haven't seen it, I'd watch the DCAU Flashpoint movie. Has based Zoom in it instead of just Evil Barry.
Ah, yes. Because when she had him take off his sun glasses and look at her, she immediately realized that was her son, who somehow went back in time, then cried about missing his mom and implied that she died. You're fricking moronic.
I've seen it, I've also read the comic series that covers flashpoint, th cartoons fine I like it thawne is perfect
Oh here's another one, more paste, it's what spyplane pilots and the like use massive amount of calories and nutrients in a tube, MRE Jesus just did a vid on them. why the frick hasn't batman given him a shit ton of the highest quality versions of those available for a quick recharge? Again this can easily be worked into the plot in a more comedic ways let's say their was one flavour that Barry fricking hates but it's the last one left so he has to choke it down. Giving you fricking gold here Gunn pay attention
>writers don’t read the source material
I’m shocked anon
>Also, Jay Garrick, the original flash, was made with velocity x or whatever, which is just speedforce serum.
there's even a mathematical formula that will give you superspeed
I heard you can just get gpt4 to translate it to python
Yeah but it's more of a mantra, really. Also Jay is a meta so even without the Speed Force he can run pretty fast.
Just throwing this into the conversation while we're at it.
>they established at the beginning he needs to eat A LOT and starts losing his powers when too hungry he even has a meter telling him.
goddamn i HATED this. He gets his powers from the SPEED FORCE. Not HOTDOGS. They give him some fricking glycemic meter like he's captain novalin. So fricking stupid.
That’s true and not true at the same time.
When he first gets his powers, his metabolism is out of control.
Even in the Justice league cartoons it has him eating like crazy on the Watch Tower.
Over the years, his Speed Force connection improves to the point that’s less of an issue.
Yes, his powers come from the Speed Force, but going that fast also affects his body’s metabolism.
They do the same thing to Kryptonians. Clark needs to eat food. Eventually, he no longer needs to eat because of his powers. Even later on down the line, he becomes an energy being because his powers evolve.
They do this with a lot of characters. They remove initial weaknesses, make them evolve.
>Even in the Justice league cartoons
That's Wally. Wally loves to eat.
In the Flash tv show, it’s Barry Allen and he has metabolism issues. They put a glucose monitor on him. He collapses in distress multiple times on the show because of it.
>Wally loves to eat
Yes, he eats hundreds of hot dogs from a hot dog vendor cart, clears out the Watch Tower fridge, and drinks gallons of soda because…he loves to eat. Surely that has nothing to do with his metabolism.
>In the Flash tv show
Cool beans autismo, don't care about your CW show.
>Surely that has
Hey moron, just pointing out the fact that eating all the time is a Wally thing, not a Barry thing.
It's absolutely a Barry thing it's all flashes thing
The tv show didn’t make this up. It’s from the comics as well.
I don't remember Barry being hyper fixated on food like this but oh well.
This is like saying you don't know Martian Manhunter is addicted to Oreos, you really have no fricking clue what you are talking about eh?
I can tell you've never read a Flash comic in your life. I mean frick, you know even JLU, a frickton of kids' first introduction to the Flash, explains this multiple times, right? It's a constant running gag that the Flash, not just Barry or Wally, all are chronic eaters.
I'll have you know I've read almost all of Waid's run.
So you only read Wally Flash and automatically assumed like a moron.
Correction, I've mostly read Wally and some Barry here and there. I never found Barry to be as obsessed with food as Wally.
Because wally is younger, if you get any random flash panel where it's not a fight and you've got about a 50/50 chance he's eating or has a chocolate bar or something in his hand
Got it, anon. Got it.
The real superheroes are the people with the ability to stomach this garbage for its entire runtime.
The REAL superhero's are the friends we made along the way.
How did Zod's blade hurt Supergirl? Why did Flash keep redoing the fight and fricking up that moment when he could just vibrate Zod's heart out or infinite mass punch him?
Why wouldn't it? Its a kryptonian blade, kryptonians kill eachother all the time
This, Zod has kryptonian weaponary and armor and training lol
Snyder's writing goes over the heads of most morons
>Snyder's writing goes over the heads of most morons
He didn't make this movie though.
No wonder the battle was so bad, one thing I honestly like about Snyder scenes is the fight and stunt coreography,
The flash is a stupid character and an even worse "super hero".
Anybody can be op if you wrote them that way. Fricking troon.
>I LITERALLY cannot post a single thing without mentioning trannies
>I LITERALLY cannot post a single thing without mentioning trannies
I read the director said the CGI is bad on purpose. I have no words
I like how instead of explaining it away as Flash is moving so fast he can't make out fine details, he says the CGI is so bad because Barry is a gamer.
lol
Lol seriously? I didn't know what he said but I assumed it was some version of the first one, that is so much worse
>Flash is moving so fast he can't make out fine details
Honestly that's how I would have done it. Blur everyone's faces and keep it that way until Barry starts focusing on someone, then use a fricking real person.
He looks like that because hes being rendered by quantum sub atomic sands of time around barry and its a preview of time being distorted as seen through the speedforce sphere.
No director said it's because he's a gamer, yes that's actually his explanation
You're talking to the Flash copelord, anon. It's no use.
Yea I guess I keep hoping something will break through that epic copium, guess not
The director doesnt know anything about that, its beyond his intelligence and thought capacity. Does my explaination make the cgi make sense? Yes it does. If you now know what I just told and watch the scene you will see it makes sense. He is running through the building blocks of reality and its forming preview models of time around him in realtime, its actually a cool visual effect and representation of reality if you know anything about quantum mechanics and particle physics.
Anon making shit up in your head doesn't change the godawful CGI in the movie or the pants on head moronic explanation for it
Even if what I said I made up it does infact explain the scene. How can you not understand my explaination here
how did no one notice hes running through sub atomic matter and its forming preview renders all around him I dont get it, it was obvious. What youre seeing isnt real just a quantum render until he goes into that reality then it appears real hence it not being photorealistic. If the cgi was too good it would appear as being real and not a quantum representation of reality at that moment in time.
I understand it's just moronic and in no way explains the plethora of shitty CGI in this thing not just chronobowl
How is my explaination moronic? Its very good. I pulled that out my ass, yet it works and saves the scene. Yes all the the other cgi moments arent explained but whatever, I grew up before cgi was even good, youve never seen bad cgi if you think any of the cgi in this movie is truely bad and when you take into account the movie was made during covid its not that bad at all.
I'm 40 years old kiddo I saw bad CGI the rise of good CGI really really fricking incredible CGI and then the decline into the horrible shit I just watched
How much is marvel paying you bucko? You getting free dvds? Hardback comics? It isnt worth it bucky DC will always be better than marvel ALWAYS
You are reaching so hard MoS might be my favourite superhero movie of all time followed closely by BvS:UE and ZSJL was also quite fond of first WW, doesn't mean I'll mindlessly praise any DC content that exists, if it's shit it's shit
So how was it not cool seeing a different variation of scenes from man of steel? It was. The cgi is because of COVID lockdowns and people working for double pay lol . How can no one understand that.
I understand why it was bad, rewrites also had a lot to do with it, but I'm not going to pretend it was good it wasn't it was awful, as I said I'm not going to blindly praise something just because it's DC and I certainly am never going to praise the CGI in this because it's shit
The movie wasnt awful youre just repeating what everyone else is saying. How was it not cool as beans seeing all the different supermans and even ones we never got? Seeing three different batmans from different movies? Seeing the cool running moments, the speedforce time sphere, seein batman die, seeing kal els cousin and then seeing her die, seeing worlds start to collide, the movie was cool.
I didn't say that I said the CGI was awful stop being so defensive
I couldn't stop thinking how israelite ezra is a rapist and everyone around him just pretending that he's the flash
why was his only option to put or remove the tomato can? why not find out the guy who actually killed her mother and stop him then? it's not like every change is gonna doom the universe so try a few of them and see how it goes
Just steal his dad's hat, simple as
He wanted to make the most minor change. Barry wasn’t stupid. He knew messing with time was a major thing. So he was trying to figure out how to make the most minor impact and return to the past. He didn’t even stay there to ensure his mom didn’t die. He returned back. He probably figured he needed to stay in the past as short as possible as well.
I think what some people are confused by is this: over time, The Flash is increasing his connection to the Speed Force. In the beginning, he will be very hungry and require huge sustenance in order to power his speed. As his connection grows, it will get to the point where his powers are sustained by the Speed Force, it may even get to the point where he no longer needs to even eat because he gets everything from the speed force.
The point is it was youngest most inexperienced Barry that started replaying the fight over and over, he would've never gotten to that point he would've starved first
He was running off adrenaline and fat reserves.
Oh just shut up already we are talking decades here, it's a dumb plot hole because the baby rescue scene was added later so it doesn't match up with the rest of the movie
>scene was added later so it doesn't match up
Thanks Gunn! Very cool.
Honestly baby in a microwave how is that not gunn? He clearly had his grubby hands all over that opening
Oh but I agree. The tonal whiplash with the rest of the movie is proof enough. I'm sure the scene with Barry's roommates was Gunn's idea, too.
Yea that was very Gunn and the back to the future relatively obscure bit of film trivia that guy was replaced my MJF early in production, it's all pure Gunn and it ruins the fricking movie
> the back to the future relatively obscure bit of film trivia
I liked it when I thought it was just a throwaway line, then 5min later they went full moron with it.
Yea also a very clear sign of Gunn stetching a bit out for soooo long, beating a joke to death it's one of his things, just watch peacemaker he over does it so many times, and no it doesn't come back around to being fun y it's just tiresome
But for him would have been minutes, time doesnt run the same for him its slowing down and speeding up hence he doesnt age or deage when he runs fast to the future or past. Why are you nitpicking somethings as trivial as HURRR I DIDNT SEE HIM EAT A BURGER EVERY ONE MINUTE HUUURRRRR
>be me
>get hungry
>eat
>be the Flash
>get hungry
>fricking dies
He can't go eat he's stuck in his endless replay of the battle
He isn't stuck at all since he can run and grab a snack whenever he wants. There's nothing landlocking him to the scene of the fight and it's stupid to think there was.
Correct however setup no payoff what's more they present a perfect senario to use it, old flash needs to go eat he's weak and younger versions keep him in the chronobubble to defeat him, explains why a flash that experienced lost to 2 children versions, their 10seconds of thought, theirs the payoff
shouldn't there be two barrys in the final clooney universe?
No because that Barry's universe ceased to exist
So it's one of those "we must save our universe, our whole universe is in danger" plots but by the end the hero fails and the entire universe gets wiped out from existence?
Strategic retreat to whatever universe is left as a lone survivor refugee?
In that universe all prior events chosen and pathways led to all universes getting destroyed yes with no way of changing it.
In theory this sounds worse than a "Thanos wins" scenario
Depends on which version but generally yea flashpoint resets the universe. It was used in the comics to do exactly what the movie did, wipe the slate clean to start over. Although that will piss of Superboy the most powerful being in any universe
Well that is the flashpoint paradox
And it appears the only universe left is the bat-nipple universe. It's like Andy Sixx is making these movies. How much shit do we have to eat before someone finally says, NO MORE?
Why they keep repeating the lasso joke? It's not funny in the Josstice League and not funny in this movie
She even said
>Never gets old
Yes, yes it fricking does it got old 3 movies ago
I read in the other thread that the reshoots probably was the Justice League scene and saving the babies and now I believe because the worst "jokes" and bizarre cgi come from that first 20 minutes
Agreed, except that CGI Cavill at the end is the worst CGI in the whole movie
Post some of your cgi work that youve done, would be nice to see how much better your own cgi work is.
Lol what? That's how your defending it? >See if you can do better
Seriously? are you the director by any chance?
Post some of your work anon, as youre a top cgi effects artist right? Its easy peasy right? Wait, are you telling me you arent a cgi effects artist? Youre just an ungrateful winging shitter?
What is this mental illness called? I can recognise bad CGI without being a CGI artist you spastic, you are legit the director aren't you? It was bad on purpose right?
The only thing I thought of is it was shown like that as its warped due to the speedforce effects so they chose to show it like an animated cgi because it was a representation of the atoms but not real just preview of the events happeneing, I honestly dont know why they didnt use real footage inplace of the cgi in those parts other than time and covid. The answer is covid.
A VFX artist who worked on it said some of the effects were done in a week, they are literal placeholders for the final product, except the next step was skipped and they released the work print basically
The cgi was done like that to show you it was a quantum representation of the reality looking through the speedforce time sphere and the effects of speedforce warping reality to appear no photorealistic as first glance through the timesphere.
Dude just stop it was bad, how do you explain shit like this
I watched it in UHD on an 8k screen and it looked fine. Taking pictures out of context can make anything look shit. Hes peeking into a speedforced slowed down reality, its going to look warped and weird.
I just watched the movie I got the context it still looked awful, this is next level cope
>it looked like that because of reasons unestablished within the fiction of the product
,>cause the director said so
Ywnbaw
Frick you, moron.
That and this
Make perfect sense if you arent a brainlet. Hes literally pulling the building blocks of time up around his feet which is rendering the moments of time around him.
>if you're not a tailer you can't judge clothing
>if you're not a mechanic you can't criticize vehicles
>If you're not a computer science graduate with front end dev expertise you can't judge shitty ui in anything
>if you're not a cop then you can't judge the actions of a cop clearly in the wrong
>If you're not a multi star Michelin chef you can't judge food
>If youre not an airplane engineer you can't judge a clearly broken engine before takeoff, just sit in it and die homosexual
ywnbaw
So from what that moron is saying if I clip through a floor in a game, it's my fault because I'm not a game designer, definitely not the actual game designers fault for fricking up, I can't criticize that unless I am also a game designer
Precisely. If you got by a malfunctioning auto driving vehicle, you can't criticize it cause you're not a programmer that designs the implementation of self driving tech.
If you're not the POTUS you can't criticize them for bad decisions
If you're not a road worker you can't criticize potholes
If you're not superman you can't criticize the actions of superman cause "let's see you fight faora in the middle of a small town and NOT destroy buildings! Oh what's that? You don't have superpowers? Then stfu incels"
Yep, faulty wiring keeps blowing out your fuse box, are you an electrician? No? THE SHUT THE FRICK UP. It's one of the most nonsensical arguments I've encountered recently
>There's a leak in my apartment
>Super comes to check it out
>"looks like your sink needs a plumber, anon"
>"Uhhhh are you a plumber, chuds? Didn't think so! Let's see you make a plumbing system! Do you even know the physics of how a drainage system works?!? Didn't think so incels!!!"
Lol this shit is great
>This chicken is undercooked it's raw inside
>Are you a chef? No you ungrateful shit eat it
Kek you couldnt do better though thats whats fricking funny, your cgi would be total fricking trash. You dont even understand the choice of visually showing it like that aswell, you dont even realise hes seeing a "preview render" of all moments in time around him not actual full renders unless he goes into the reality at fullspeed, he has atomic matter flowing around his feet , the building blocks of reality that is then forming to show roughly whats going on and then realization when he leaves the speedforce time sphere.
>This cars doors keep falling off
>Kek you couldn't do better that's what's fricking funny, your not a mechanic
Lol keep going this went from cringe to the most hilarious levels of copium I've seen in a while
>Takes car to the mechanic for an oil change
>Car comes back with different rims and seats
>"You're not a mechanic stfu and take your ride fricknuts!"
Iol, mechanic hivemind
>My PS controller won't charge I think the charger cable is faulty
>Are you an electrician? let's see you make a charger cable bet it would be shit, frick you
So how do you explain the babies? And Supergirl, and batman, and Barry running and pretty much every CGI shot in this movie? Keep going bud this cope is fantastic
Showing photorealistic babies in dangerous situations even good and would raise the rating. All barry running shots were fine, supergirl batman all fine, nearly every cgi shot was fine. Its not even cope you literally work for marvel and just hate dc. Not every product can be perfect, taking in all the events around the film during pre and post production into consideration the film turned out pretty good. Its actually a great film, I love it. I watched it twice ina row last night in UHD.
>nearly every cgi shot was fine.
Almost any time Flash is on screen it looks like a bad photoshop. His head just floats there on a cgi body.
Oh god we're back too
>It was bad on purpose
It was BAD that's all no amounts of copium will change that, the reasons for it being bad does not change the fact that it's bad
>Your house is SUPPOSED to be on fire because it represents your family's BURNING desire to be together
>The WARMTH that a household gets to share
>What do you mean the fire looks dangerous and is hurting your lungs?
>ARE YOU A CARPENTER?!?!
>NO?!
>THEN WHY ARE YOU SPEAKING AS IF YOU KNEW HOW A HOUSE IS SUPPOSED TO BE BUILT
>WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY AND DESIGN
>ITS A FEATURE NOT A BUG, CHUD!!!!!
>What are you a fireman? what do you know about fire anyway bet your fire would suck
Kek all your points just proved my point, thanks for that.
Pretending to be moronic is really no different then actually being moronic... moron
So show me your cgi effects portfolio homosexual or are you such a fricking moron you cant even use maya and blender?
Literally do fricking better gay, load up blender maya 3d effects after effects 3dsmax whatever and show me how its done.
Why would I do that? It's horrible CGI, me making something myself won't change what's in the movie, if you want an example of good CGI Cavill watch MoS
Cope and seethe troon.
Kys
CGI Cavill?
Brace yourself this is going to be rough
See
The reshoots were the ZSJL scene in the chromoball and the end scene.
I hate that Batfleck literally says that tired “oh I could do more to stop crime if I didn’t become a superhero” take
He's right
Most of batman's villains want him and just kill people to fight him
it's a Geoff Johns thing
it gets worse everytime, now people just randomly start spewing embarassing facts that have nothing to do with what's happening
obligatory reminder that Ezra flash is canonically a virgin
Well yeah flash is a gay nerd, thats why hes a cool character, he isnt super cool
Reminder that Ben Affleck was so mad about this scene being added in the final cut that he asked for his name to be taken off the credits.
That makes no sense why would he agree to film it then?
They apparently made several takes, and he thought the producers would go with one of the takes he did and liked, not this one.
For example his talk with Barry in the apartment was wholly written by him.
Oh ok that makes sense, yea some of his scenes with Barry were good, that lasso shit was not one of them
the funniest "accidentally still holding the lasso" moment was the edit of when Power Girl was holding it.
>but fricking Clooney?
I liked him better than Keaton's Batman even though he was only in one movie
Comics book are stupid and they were always stupid and people who read them are stupid and the movies are stupid
>if you're not a racist you can't talk about israelites
It was pretty bad. Young Barry is just annoying, and the villain and problems just kinda end up killing themselves and going away... No real heroic ending. They could have tried making it more tragic for younger Barry, but it was too fast. It all just felt really pointless. In the end the multiverse apocalypse is averted, but Flash also didn't really fix anything, he still fricked up the timelines. It was just a mess.
>Flash also didn't really fix anything, he still fricked up the timelines. It was just a mess.
They could make a 4 episode mini series to close out the movie and have Barry fix multiverse properly. Incorporate the arrowverse crisis crossover and have Grant Gustin, Tom Welling or Brandon Routh return.
Barry could be searching his universe and drop by the Smallville universe. He pops in right after this scene. He head over to Clark who in this universe has been through this situation once before.
Smallville had a multiverse? Guess I never got that far, I know current tv superman had a flashpoint
>Smallville had a multiverse?
There were some episodes about it in the later seasons. The season 11 comics explored the multiverse even further.
Thanks I might actually read the comic
Yes It is, the "evil" Lionel return from other universe and there's another Clark called Ultraman, he dresses and act like Lex
And alt Lionel broke the 4th wall when he entered the Smallville universe.
I like Lionel in the show, people always said that Rosenbaum's Lex is the best Lex but to me Lionel is the "classic" villain Lex that I read on the comics and the animation, like a extension or something
He got his dad out of prison I suppose that something
In the wrong universe.
Yep, he's wiped all his friends from existence including his Iris btw
His Iris is someone we literally do not know. She seemed to have her own agenda, even, and wasn't even fully interested in Barry. Horrible writing.
It's like 1/2 the scenes were missing, but it was still 2 1/2 hours long
But, hey there's Clooney so it's all right.
Just watched the movie. Fricking atrocious and shits all over the Snyderverse. The music was so bad and generic. People shit on the CGI but the story itself doesn't work.
Why didn't Supergirl just snap Zod's neck?
Zod is top kryptonian general , supes cousin is a untrained civie
From how people have reacted to The Flash I cant wait for every single human to die a painful death, no one deserves to live for being such ungratefull shitters I cant wait for every single person to start bleeding from their eyes and just dying because if you dont like The Flash, you dont deserve to live, Id kill you on the spot for being ungrateful. Anyone that enjoyed the movie would be allowed to live but other than that, total human death after how everyones hating on the flash movie.
This shitty flick broke your brain
It made me lose faith in humanity, im now working to destroy everyone, sorry but youre fricking dead kiddo hope you had a nice life because its about to over, enjoy it while it lasts which wont be long
What the frick do you know about humanity are you God? Funny this is you couldn't do better I'd like to see you try go on show me your reality, bet it would suck
I know this was your last chance as a race and you blew it, final judgement was how you reacted to the flash and youve all failed, your actions have doomed humanity, im sorry but theres nothing you can do, that was your last chance the final test and you failed, its over.
What do you know about judgement? Are you a judge? Post your law degree, bet it sucks
You'll never be a cgi artist homosexual and you know it hence how butthurt its made you, youre so mad you spend 20grand on highend computer and software and you cant even use it and just got in debt. You'll never render a scene homosexual
ILM reject hands typed this post
Render me a scene homosexual I know you cant
>Render me a scene homosexual I know you cant
Be a woman I know you cant
What do you know about butthurt? Are you gayg...oh wait nvm
>From how people have reacted to The Flash I cant wait for every single human to die a painful death, no one deserves to live for being such ungratefull shitters I cant wait for every single person to start bleeding from their eyes and just dying because if you dont like The Flash, you dont deserve to live, Id kill you on the spot for being ungrateful. Anyone that enjoyed the movie would be allowed to live but other than that, total human death after how everyones hating on the flash movie.
Honest question, Michael Shannon and Antje Traue really shoot their scenes or was some cgi deepfake shit?
Some of it was actually them Michael Shannon said the script confused him and he had no idea what he was doing
Whats that? No scene? What a surprise youre fricking pathetic kid you could never make a movie as good as the flash.
Go to bed Andres you've embarrassed yourself enough for one day
We could have had the Atlantean War
We could have had Jeffrey Dean Morgan as Thomas Wayne Bats
We could have had the kino scene where Barry almost kills himself to get his powers back
We could have had Reverse Flash being king butthole in the best way possible
we could have had a tearjerk ending with the letter to Bruce
this entire movie feels like a spit in the face to not just Snyder but DC as a whole
Yes, it was a piss-poor Flashpoint """adaptation."""
I really don't understand why they didn't just do flashpoint it's a great story
Im glad they didnt as you still have it and I didnt want to see the same film just remade. Now I have the animated flash and the different flash movie, its a win for flashgays.
No it really isn't now they've shit the bed they won't make a live action flashpoint for at least another decade, which sucks
I dont want a live action version, it wont be as good even if its remade 1 to 1 shot for shot, live action remakes are never better than the anime original.
What an awful opinion
Well thats jsut me, I own flash animated paradox and watched it night before I watched the flash, I like the flash being a different movie and story as now I have two cool flash movies to watch.
I'm talking about the comic you underaged moron
Ive never read flash comics, im not gay.
No I'm pretty much %100 sure you are
Kek youre pissed because that comment made you look like ahomosexual for reading flash comics, I was joking as theres nothing wrong with comics and I havent read the flash comics so cant comment on them. Ive got afew
of comics just no flash ones
This site is for +18 and older
Comics I have are the dark judges judge dead, metal dredd, batman who laughs,joker death metal, dark metal, battle of the multiverse. Legion, the darkness and hellblazer.
Not bad you should get swamp thing
Not the flash?
No but you have Hellblazer and Swamp Thing by Moore is it's precursor, also a really great comic, but only Moore's run
I didnt know that, I thought you were mocking me or something lol .
Not in that particular post no, genuinely get swamp thing, great read
Do you realise the comics came first? We don't want them to adapt the cartoon movie, you autistic frick.
This took me a second to realise that spastic was talking about the cartoon
I'm amazed at how many people so obviously on the spectrum browse Cinemaphile.
>"the anime is nice I like the anime please don't redo the anime"
Frick's sake.
Pretty sure that anon is underaged
>its a win for flashgays.
Flashgays have been taking major L's since Millers casting
>We could have had Reverse Flash being king butthole in the best way possible
As much as I like based Reverse Flash throwing Barry down a flight of stairs he's always going to be a nightmare to adapt live-action.
>Lauren Cohan as the Joker
Damn that could be nice
>WAAAAH, S-SNYDE-
IDGAF About that shit! They completely wasted YET ANOTHER DC Story! Lets List them all!
>Ruined Death of Superman
>Ruined Flashpoint Paradox
>Ruined Dark Knight Returns
Im glad it's over, frick the Snyderverse. Godawful dogshit.
Batfleck's last scene, lads. At least it wasn't shit.
The only ounce of soul in the entire runtime
Yeah atleast Ben got a good scene out of this mess.
It's shameful how goddamned wasted Ben was.
>I'll see you tomorrow Barry
aww...
>Keaton bats last words in one of the tries
>"Not this time. Maybe some other time"
The one time the movie has a good setup/payoff
Isn't he supposed to be in Aquaman 2
They did shoot a Batfleck scene for Aquaman 2, but that was around the same the time where they reshot Flash's ending to have Batfleck, Gadot and Cavil appear in the new timeline instead of Keaton and Supergirl.
They axed that scene and replaced it with Clooney Bruce when Gunn took over and mercy killed the DCEU, so the Batfleck cameo is probably gone too.
KINO
Why are your webms so grey?
They have HDR
Well it kind of looks like ass, doesn't it?
The issue is whatever potato hardware and shitty software you're browsing Cinemaphile with.
Sure thing buddy.
Yes actually.
Touché.
Holy shit what the frick, just look at MoS and then this shit
I like Clooney
You forgot to mention that we never know who murdered Barry's mom, that subplot which basically kickstarted the movie never gets resolved. That movie was garbage in so many levels and yet they are still surprised it was a massive failure.
I mean we all know who did but it's hilarious the movie doesn't touch on it, why the frick didn't they just do thawne
We do?
Yes, we do.
Uh yea, general audiences wouldn't though making it very funny, this flick is so poorly thought out
So, who's the killer, I don't read comics
Reverse Flash
Flashes arch nemesis
Man, comics are fricking moronic
Eobard is a kino villian one of DCs best
Watch Justice League: The Flashpoint Paradox.
He should just watch it anyway, its one of the best warner animated dc films.
Exactly, we all know that's why the route the film took is so fricking moronic, they had flashpoint and all they had to do was adapted with minor tweaks to make it fit in the current snyderverse thing and they couldn't even do that, they went full moron instead.
They even had shazams entire family for that character, literally everyone needed is already cast, even thier weird hate boner for Cavill could work if you really insist on not having him then fine Supergirl w/e
Hey at least we have the flashpoint paradox movie so it's not all bad.
No we have a cartoon what everyone wanted is this
Yeah but that's not what we got, sadly.
They could have cast some skinny dude who vaguely looked like Cavill if they really wanted to.
I don't mind it being Supergirl fine whatever they could still just do the story
Legitimately made me laugh harder than any of the intentional comedy in the movie
Yea me too when he was flying I immediately thought
>Wait that ship has shields does this batman have some crazy super explos...lol nope
Yea made me genuinely laugh too
Bruce just like, yeah I'm done. Peace.
Padme lookin ass biiiihhhh
His first death was ass. Why would he give up now? I'm sure he could have broken out of the wienerpit.
>bat soup
Is Flash pretty much dead on the big screen?
Do you actually care if sales numbers are high or if other people like it?
This thing stewed in production hell for conservatively ten years, more if you count pre DCEU, and in that amount of time they produced something so botched it's a on course for a top five worst bombs of all time level loss
There's absolutely no way they can just turn this around any time soon. This is Green Lantern level bad, possibly worse.
The closest you can get to this is Spiderman being turned around in about five years (twice) and Suicide Squad in about the same amount of time, problem is one of those didn't work, one only mildly succeeded and the one that really did well had unique circumstances working in it's favor (and it piggybacked off another IP to do so)
>make basically flashpoint
>no thawne
>not even alluding to thawne in any way
film studios are moronic and should just stop making adaptations
Don't forget
>basically redoing MoS which they hate
For people who shit on Snyder they sure like to play with his toys.
Keaton's first scene.
I love this movie.
I have to admit I did get very briefly nostalgic when I saw the kitchen
>BELIEVE MY HEADCANON, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Why are autists like this?
forget the frickin chronobowl
Flash's suit looks like ass in the entire movie, it's like it was made 15 years ago, the body shape is unnatural, his face looks hastily glued on AND every movement is janky as frick.
in a movie where the absolute majority of shots is CGI, why the frick would you be cheap on the CGI?
and remember when we saw the rooftop scene with Supergirl? and people said "surely that's not the final shot"
well guess what, the final shot still looks like ass.
but then you have full CGI final credits with the dog falling? what the frick? how did they decide how to allocate budget in this movie? drawing straws?
I personally can't get over that Barry made it so his mom knew she was going to die, wtf
He didn't.
I literally just watched it, and that doesn't happen.
are you just baiting or did you really construct a reality in your mind where that happens?
Did you micronap through the conversation they have in normal-time? It's on the nose level obvious dialogue, not to mention the look she gives when she sees his face.
So you ARE moronic, gotcha.
takes one to know one
so your head canon is that she
1) recognized him as her son from the future
2) inferred he must have been time traveling from the future
3) also inferred that he came back to say goodbye to her because she was going to die
holy frick man. your theory rips dicks! it beeves man
Are you moronic or do you legitimately think his mother could hear and comprehend words happening in a hundredth, if not thousandth of a second?
Give me one (1) reason why this should be CGI. Just one. It doesn't make any sense.
Also it's funny that they used CGI vomit but forgot to faceswap notEzra in the back.
Ezra is suppose to be a serious dedicated actor right? That's how he markets himself your telling me he couldn't do a vomit scene?
Maybe they forgot to add a scene where Batman creates some plot device to help Flash refuel problem. "Here. A Bat-kat. You'll never be hungry again".
Tom Hardy as Batman would have been funnier.
Not going to lie, maybe it's lowered expectations but I didn't mind it? It's not good but it's no debacle like Suicide Squad 1.0 or Justice League either.
If it didn't so frequently look like total shit and you got rid of the awful pointless cameo sequence entirely I think it'd be a stock 6/10
The movie suffered from the rewrites and reshoots. I could feel the Snyder dna throughout certain sequences and it was beautiful. I am sure the original movie was the breasts. Ezra even though a freak is a great frickin flash. It’s a shame this movie and the justice league movies didn’t come out the original ways they were supposed to, the undercurrent through the films connecting them with sound and visual design is so good
cgi was crape but all the hate is undeserved, just like bvs
Except the CGI in BvS was amazing
Have none of you gays ever run? Really fast and for long durations? It makes you hungry lol
Not many people are refuting the validity of the mechanic, rather the introduction of the mechanic with no payoff what so ever. You talk like a gay and your shits all moronic.
No-one is saying it doesn't that's not the debate at all, it's how old flash kept replaying the battle over and over for decades
And no he's old or him 50+ years have passed while he replays the battle
You are moronic this anon
Explains it perfectly. So you wanted an extra 30mins to an hour of him eating so you can not cry about how hes sustaining himself while trying to win the paradox lol none cares gay youre moronic.
No I want a payoff to the setup and that seemed like the perfect time, we spent almost 1/2 an hour on that plot point at the start of the movie use it for something
Give us the DeLuca/Abdy cut.
Oh this HAS to be the face she made when she dookied on the bed
I kind of agree that if you introduced energy meter as a plot point you have to do something with it again at some point of the story. All this headcanons about connecting with speed force while making sense also completely defeats the purpose of the energy meter as a device to limit Flash powers and how it would affect the bigger picture. It sure would've been more interesting if the lack of energy actually became the ultimate challenge for Flash to overcome and the reason of his failure, but I guess it's too complicated for the writers.
It doesn't have to be the crux but just fricking use it here's another idea, youngest Barry tries to be cool and take out a squad but passes out in the Russian bunker instead of getting shot, because he didn't eat he doesn't have the watch and is inexperienced, same scene same everything I could probably come up with another dozen at least semi satisfying payoffs
That's a great way to work it in. To add further, his exhaustion could have been the reason he gets shot.
>NuBarry tries to take bunker goons
>is successful for the first 2 frags but then visually you can see him getting slower
>he starts to lose grip on the speed and a bullet he saw coming clips him cause his power faded
But instead we got
>"You didn't tell me we could get shot!"
Yep give me time I could probably come up with more but I really like that one also works into the whole young Barry won't listen to prime Barry
>All this headcanons about connecting with speed force
Quit speed reading, dipshit. That's comic Flash. We're complaining that the energy plot in movie flash was moronic and should be more like comic flash.
Yes, because Barry writers just have him develop the calorie bar super early on then only ever briefly touch on it whenever Flash gets mind fricked or body swapped or whatever and they need to make a comment on, "WHY AM I SUDDENLY SO HUNGRY?!"
Best batgadget coming through!
I had an involuntary "oh no" reaction during that scene because I was almost certain it was going to be an 89 callback
That was nice, stupid but I liked it
Why the frick are there cutscene-to-gameplay transitions in this movie? I swear there were at least four of these fricking things.
Lol I didn't even notice that, yea it's literally
>Ok can you look around? Yep cut scenes over it's gameplay
Someone post the Fortnite edit
They should have had small glimpses of something yellow in the edge of the screen back in the mom murder flashbacks, it would have added more kino points than Nicolas Cage Superman.
Yea just a touch of yellow lighting even a tiny bit, why wouldn't you? It's so wierd the idiot director has even said the next one would've been about eobar, but you just did some shitty knockoff flashpoint why there frick would you not introduce him then?
The greenscreen here was so obvious.
Going to watch it for a third time tonight, Im loving the movie . Dont care will watch flashpoint paradox after aswell for an even better dose of flash, yep its good time for flashtards .
Since the flash was such a gigantic disappointment in every aspect, do you think aquaman 2 is going to get canned?