This movie filtered everyone who don't want to amount to anything
>waaa fletcher is the bad guy because of how hard he pushes the main character
the main character will actually be something
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>the main character will actually be something
that's the funniest part. Nobody cares about a session drummer. Yeah, he's got a steady paycheck, maybe even a spot in the orchestra for a while. that's it.
Correct take.
Life-long loser.
Contrarian npc moron take.
I mean, yeah. Are you too moronic to understand by yourself?
>calls others morons
>doesnt get the point
I'll have the medium fries and 7up, thanks.
No one will give a shit about your life or accomplishments 10 years after your death.
nice projection.
maybe if you actually did anything of note rather than b***hing about how others try to do things of note, you wouldn't die nameless and forgotten.
Getting assaulted by an old narcissistic homosexual doesn't make you a better musician. The Beatles didn't go to homosexualy schools like this, they practiced for 12 hours a day until they were good.
the midwits take away that it's an abusive relationship and ultimately bad.
anyone who's ever actually wanted to make something of themselves knows that passion is difficult.
it's better to live trying to achieve the highest point of life you can, than wallow in stagnation
yeah but he would've been better off telling the bald prick to go frick himself and getting a job elsewhere.
fletcher has connections.
The MC wanted to be pushed. He was just as bad as Fletcher, which is why he broke up with the girl. He deserved Fletcher.
and his girlfriend will never be anyone of note.
it's true, any drummer worth his salt would be living with and mooching off of his girlfriend
he should've just jammed on tiktok/youtube/twitch and gotten sponsors.
EZ
No, not really. You sound like a moron who's never had to deal with any kind of hardship to realise how bad or hard it can be.
Most people who matured realise that autistically devoting yourself to one thing and wasting so much of your life and energy on it will barely mean anything in the end since everyone around you will forget about it in 5 minutes and move on with their lives.
It's better to live your life and do things you enjoy rather than wasting it away to perfect one specific hobby.
>You sound like a moron who's never had to deal with any kind of hardship to realise how bad or hard it can be.
>literally say anyone who's ever actually wanted to make something of themselves knows that passion is difficult.
good lord you're fricking moronic. unlike your stagnant ass, we like to push our passions to greater heights.
stay filtered
i'm not gonna humor some bored butthole pretending to get passionate on fricking Cinemaphile. sorry!
k.
There are naturals and sheer effort isn't going to take you from very good to the best unless the best have checked out entirely or are only chugging along at lower than 50%. Baldy's the one that couldn't hack it professionally and became an academic in a cushy position.
>naturals
that's a cope for "i never put effort into anything because others are better than me"
This, no one is a natural. They just appear so through hardwork and dedication, then lie about being a natural to come ofd as more impressive. Anyone who has reached a high level in anything knows this.
>Nobody cares about a session drummer
Anon, the whole movie makes constant references to Charlie Parker, one of the greatest jazz session drummers of all time
>Charlie Parker
Who?
Shit, I should have posted it on Cinemaphile. Cinemaphile doesn't know anything about music so you won't take the bait
Barely anyone know who that is anymore and the movie literally states that Jazzi is a dying artform. Andrew is literally die from a drug addict by the time he’s 30 and will be forgotten a week later
In the meantime, he would have been a great drummer
>charlie parker was a drummer
get the frick out you fricking pseud
session drummers are actually in high demand
>have a fulfiling career vs work at mcdonald's
not everyone wants to be rich and famous you know
to add.
this would also imply that bootcamp is bad because the drill sergeant yells and insults too.
>t. sheltered and privileged person who can waste his life becoming a master in a niche and superfluous occupation
he didn't make anything of himself anyway. he got a spot in an orchestra
uh huh, and where are you? not in an orchestra.
>waaa you have time to have a hobby and passion!!!!
keep crying, bitter homosexual.
lmao.
your favorite TV, movies, music, art were made by people who were able to focus on their niche. dipshit.
and this is why conservatives lost the culture war for the passed 60 years.
>stop creating art and get a real job!
>ugh, why is art filled with liberal propaganda???
It was funny seeing Kronii get wet over this. Of course not as funny as richkids' ``social darwinist'' roleplaying.
You're the brainlet who got filtered.
>waaa fletcher is the bad guy because of how hard he pushes the main character
He's the bad guy because he's an butthole who gets off on tearing down people who depend on him. "Pushing" them is the excuse he tells himself/others to justify being an butthole.
>the main character will actually be something
For one thing, no he won't. The director himself said that if the movie went on five minutes longer, it would end on JK standing over the kid's grave and insulting him for not being good enough. For another, only a certain type of person responds to being yelled at and degraded. Plenty of people find success without that.
>He's the bad guy because he's an butthole who gets off on tearing down people who depend on him. "Pushing" them is the excuse he tells himself/others to justify being an butthole.
oh no! someone is an butthole? this must mean they're a bad guy! it doesnt matter of his student turns out to be world class! he was mean!
did you also cry whenever trump made a mean tweet?
>For one thing, no he won't. The director himself said that if the movie went on five minutes longer, it would end on JK standing over the kid's grave and insulting him for not being good enough
yeah, cool, i don't care what the director said. im talking about people going this hard into their art. moron.
>he was an butthole therefore the bad guy
i see it filtered you pretty hard.
meant for
Wow, an intelligent post itt.
>He's the bad guy because he's an butthole who gets off on tearing down people who depend on him. "Pushing" them is the excuse he tells himself/others to justify being an butthole.
Only non moronic post here. The director in an interview was actually sad because people didn't get why a person like this should never be a teacher. They're all caught in a kind of romantic view on sacrifice over greatness.
Boomer self-insert fantasy for a generation who bought the "Little Mozart" piano lessons bullshit.
>BY SHEER FORCE OF WILL A FIRM HANDSHAKE AND SUSTAINED EFFORT YOU TOO WILL GET THE GOLDEN WATCH UPON RETIREMENT (WITH BENEFITS)
It's about a kid taking the lesser of two evils (no training or from one less capable) and putting up with some blownout has-been also-ran homosexual's Gomer-Pyle FOMO Boomer methodology
stay filtered limp wrist
if he really wanted to dump Melissa Benoist, he should've joined a rock band so he could frick groupies, maybe Fletcher would see him play and then hop on Miles' dick and bounce his old jiggly hairy ass up and down
>if he really wanted to dump Melissa Benoist
I dropped the movie during that scene. I'm not gonna continue watching gay shit like that.
>he actually likes supergirl
>he didn't enjoy Supergirl
It was unironically kino.
>the midwit who watches CW trash didn't like whiplash
what a surprise.
You're a bit late to the party on that one, champ.
I look forward to your thread about bladerunner when you work out Deckard is actually human.
i don't even like the original bladerunner, gay.
I think he's next going to find it funny that a guy's name on Batman is "CIA" and the awkward wording of "You're a big guy. For you!"
nice samegayging.
you always jerk yourself off this hard being a Cinemaphile vet?
It was a great movie but I take issue with the notion that great artists need some failure of a mentor fricking with them to bring out their best. It seems like the sort of thing a Hollywood artist who sucked a producer's dick would want to believe.
negative reinforcement > positive reinforcement.
only the biggest pussies can't handle tough teaching
>I...I NEED A CHAIR THROWN AT ME BECAUSE...BECAUSE I JUST DO, OKAY!?
literal moron logic
t. filtered ertard
>ertard
thanks for proving my point
>h..he made a spelling error!!!!
you have to go back.
Dude that chair could have literally killed you or brain damaged you for life-that should have been the moment you walked out. There's nothing wrong with working hard but Fletcher is crazy
and fletcher has connection, like i said.
i'll take a thrown chair if it means i get ahead.
boy this thread sure is filled with everyone this film filters.
t. zero self respect
>anon you must suck my wiener if you want to get to use my "connections"
>and I mean deepthroat it for months, swallowing every drop
>why, are you too much of a b***h to suck my dick? Don't you want to be the greatest jazz drummer?
People here actually defending predatory Hollywood israelite producers
anon is already brain damaged, so the chair won't make much of a difference tbh
>You have to choose between these two types of mentorship
>You can't just get better with experience because you're naturally talented
This is the other message the movie reinforces that I don't like
Normalgays love to believe that great art requires tremendously hard work, it makes them feel better about not being talented
And it makes talentless grinders feel better about all that work they put in, like they really deserve the trophies that were handed to them on completion
>natural talent
i didn't know Cinemaphile was shitting up this board now.
natural talent is a cope for people who don't want to put work in.
hard work is a cope for people without natural talent
anyone who reaches a high level of artistry has natural talent, the fact that they also worked hard (and not always) is irrelevant
>talent + hard work = greatness
>talent + not very hard work = greatness, sometimes
>no talent + hard work = success, maybe, but not greatness
Fletcher was fricking with him, in the whole rushing/dragging scene there's literally no discernible difference in the takes he does that a human could actually pick up or notice.
ITT: OP being proven right.
The point is, and this is what the director missed, is that yoy can't force someone to be something or reach their perceived potential. Literally a mid-wit film.
except, that's exactly what happened.
moron.
I hate this scene in the movie, it would be more in character for him to kick out both the person who thought he was out of tune and the person who was out of tune. The way he turns in to the chill teacher at the end when he tells the other guy he was actually the one out of tune just seems like pandering to the kind of smugness redditor homosexuals like where they can seem "in the know".
I have nothing to really add to the debate itt
I just wanted to say that, the fact that people are still talking about this movie to this day and debating whether the movie is condoning Fletcher and his methodology is proof that the movie is great.
Gay thread, filled with homosexuals
The movie sucked. Only redditors disagree
It's a Faustian tale, nothing new. Just goes to show there are people who are always willing to sell their souls because they can't live with themselves. Stop being an insecure b***h
I think he did the right thing
>ordeals as ornament
Typical effeminate post-rationalizing cope interpretation of "what doesn't kill me makes stronger" which is a military cadet maxim for life from the outset.
watch Color of Money for true competitive environment kino.