This movie had some really well animated scenes but it just feels like a waste because of how rushed everything is. Also the Gundam pilot is a cheap copy of Amuro Kamille and Judau.
>gets in the gundam to defend his colony from a random attack
>has a girlfriend who is with the baddies
>even has a little sister to protect
>ending scene is him guiding everyone in space like Amuro did
But hey the mech scenes were cool.
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It's popular with the SRW fans
It was in the very first game just one month after the movie release.
If you can't appreciate something then move onto something else.
its definitely a shitty product but it's hard to actually treat it like shit because of how it was set up to fail
but yeah, at least is gorgeous and the few mobile suits are fantastic, way fricking better than zanscare suits
probably Tomino's best anime 6/10
Would you believe it if you were told the story in the film isn't actually the first 20 episodes of a series squeezed into one but is actually a single story based on scenarios from those 20 episodes? I think a lot of people fog up their viewing of F91 because they go in with this misconception that it's a hundred different things cobbled together and willingly ignore what's in front of them.
So damn salty about f91, if it wasn't screwed over it could've been one of the greats
victory gundam reused a lot of concepts from it and it's a trainwreck
true but it's victory gundam. it was made to be shit.
Victory is the 4th best Gundam entry though?
you're still crying?
It really isn’t rushed. I rewatched it recently and the only time it didn’t convey a passage of time too well was when seabook steals the f91 and infiltrates frontier IV. Other than that it’s fine.
it's one of the best pieces of Gundam media by far
why do people complain about the pacing? Are they stupid?
Was F91 supposed to be a 13 episode anime or a 25 episode anime? I forget.
IIRC the original plan was ~50 and the movie was mostly out of storyboards and concepts for the first 13 with some fiddling.
This movie was a mess. It really should've been a full length anime.
Why?
Pacing.
>nooooooooo don’t talk shit about this thing when you are totally justified to, it hurts my feeelings REEEEEEE
no.
Character development and plot is both rushed as it was meant to be a full length series.
Circlejerking over how angry you are at something just leads to being increasingly bitter and shitty. It is of no benefit to anyone, least of all the people doing it.
That doesn't explain why though
you're simply making an assertion
>why does compressing a story meant for a 50 episode season down to a 2 hour movie make it rushed?
>why am I so fricking moronic and gay?
You'll have to start with making an argument rather than just crying about how you personally didn't enjoy the movie.
zoomers have no personality so they consider irrationally hating something is the same as having an opinion about it
>reading comprehension
Are you american? Or just brown?
Your argument is an appeal to absurdity rather than a rational position
Saying, "they did this and it's absurd because it just IS!" is not a thought process based upon logic but rather a thought process based upon effeminate subjectivity.
Why DOES such a thing make it rushed? Is a fast-paced movie necessarily bad? Those would be some things for you to consider when you actually do make an argument.
You haven't argued anything at all yet.
Straw man.
no strawmen whatsoever, it's an analysis of your illogical position and why it makes no sense
Present any argument to actually prove your point and I'll engage with it but otherwise you've said literally nothing lmfao
I presented my argument twice and you responded first with ignorance and then with a straw man. Apparently you just can’t argue against my point so you’re deflecting
Stating something erroneous twice does not magically make it true
The film version was built entirely separately from the TV draft.
>Character development and plot is both rushed as it was meant to be a full length series.
No, The format isn't an issue. Cecily's the most dynamic character in the film and I don't think there's anything they depict that would've changed much had it been expanded into a show.
A character can be executed in a show or film just fine, all a tv show format does is give authors the time to reiterate on a character and do that for more characters. But it's not necessary. Masterful directors can get the same effect within a film.
You are forgetting what the purpose of F91 was. The original gundam saga had finished and F91 was supposed to be the foundation for a new gundam series with a new setting and characters. Sure you can tell a story in 2 hours, but doing all the worldbuilding for a new saga is a much larger task. And it objectively failed at this because F91 was ultimately abandoned.
>Masterful directors can get the same effect within a film.
Tomino dickriders are just as bad as evagays lol.
>the extrinsic commercial purpose of the film was not fulfilled therefor the film itself was bad
lol
Undeveloped characters, plot, no worldbuilding. Yep you’re a moron for caring about this film.
>underdeveloped characters
how
>plot
plot is irrelevant to a film's quality
>no worldbuilding
worldbuilding is irrelevant to artistic merit as well
in fact in most cases it's a detriment
>how
No screen time for character development. Weren’t interesting enough to continue the series so they caused it to flop.
>plot is irrelevant to a film's quality
Lol cope
>worldbuilding is irrelevant to artistic merit as well
>in fact in most cases it's a detriment
Lol cope
>No screen time for character development.
clearly false
>Weren’t interesting enough to continue the series so they caused it to flop.
extrinsic
>Lol cope
not an argument
film is not a narrative medium
>Lol cope
saying it twice is not an argument either lmao
>clearly false
Prove it.
>extrinsic
If they weren’t interesting that’s not extrinsic.
>not an argument
You never made one. Just coped without proving.
>film is not a narrative medium
It tells a story moron.
>saying it twice is not an argument either lmao
You don’t have an argument yourself. There’s nothing for me to argue against. I guess I win. Try to respond without sounding mad.
>Prove it.
Virtually every second of the screentime of the major characters is spent fleshing out their ideologies and backgrounds
>If they weren’t interesting that’s not extrinsic.
If your measure is a subjective electrochemical response to which merit is attributed via commercial success, then yes that's extrinsic and unrelated to the work in question
>It tells a story moron.
That's also extrinsic/accidental
>You don’t have an argument yourself.
Ironic
>There’s nothing for me to argue against. I guess I win. Try to respond without sounding mad.
Holy seethe; I'm a completely different anon than the one you originally replied to. You should've been able to tell via my syntax and vocabulary but clearly you were still too angry from the other chain to notice.
>responds sounding mad
Lol
>ur mad >:P
unfortunately, that's not an argument either
directors can get the same effect within a film.
That wasn't a statement about Tomino, I was speaking in the broad sense.
F91 Is very frustrating
Literally just watched this
yeah, as a narrative it was pretty shit but like CCA it's a good action film
I'd love to see F91 remade as a full length Gundam TV series.
It'd look like shit.
The first and last 10-20 minutes are really fantastic and I literally cannot remember what happens in between.
moronic speedwatcher
You can't just make up words
Go back tourist.
You sound upset
Would be cool if you people actually talked about F91.
OP is a zoomer, he probably didn't even watch the movie.
>talking about old thing with a critical view
>LE ZOOMER
Thanks for proving me right.
Pacing isn't that bad, the only thing you would need is additional dialogues to show how much times have passed, that's it.
F91 doesn't have as much issues as people make it to be, these days it's almost ignored by people
>the only thing you would need is additional dialogues to show how much times have passed
You can infer all of that just fine.
That’s not an excuse for plot holes and poor characterization
>plot holes and poor characterization
Okay but enough about b***h from mercury.
Tomino is shit. Yas should have directed it
0083 was better
It's a decent movie but it does feel like a compilation for a series that doesn't exist. Would like to see it revisited some day.
deja vu thread
F91's only flaw is that the 80's fashion girl doesn't show up more
I loved the opening city attack scene of this movie, it was really visceral
It’s actually one of my favorites
The Rafflesia is a really unique MA design. It's weird in that it feels out of place here, yet at the same time it fits.