It literally has zero plot. Only good parts it rips off from his earlier movies like abyss. The cgi is actually pretty meh considering how much it was hyped the moxed 24 48fps and 3d looked poop the character models and soundtrack also sucked.
Why he waited 15 years to rehash his first movie is beyond me frick waiting another 8 years for this shit
I didn't find it visually impressive
I was looking at moronic blue cats?
And there was nothing about the CGI that was better than marvelshit. I guess, to be fair, it was better than DCslop CGI.
Great. Who gives a frick
This movie is LITERALLY the same movie as the first one except the battle is a bit smaller scale and it takes place on water instead of in the air and on the ground
It literally has the same villain, the same arc of learning that natives are better than evil white people for two hours before a battle, and then they have a fight
It is 100% the same movie lol
What meaningful differences are there?
>the same arc of learning that natives are better than evil white people
Are you stupid
They humanize Quaritch through his relationship with Spider and show that Jake was a fool to run instead of fighting. It also does not believe in native superiority because Jake Sully and Quaritch are set apart from them due to their ability to strategize and consider failing scenarios. It's really nuanced because it's both a blessing and a curse, Jake Sully cannot relate to his kids or wife who wish to just face the enemy yet it allows him to be powerful in the first place and live to see another day. Proven by how Jake and Quaritch are both able to conquer the creatures of the sky very easily whereas the more natural animals of the ocean give them trouble. Though ultimately Jake wins by giving up parts of his humanity, seen as his intent to face Quaritch as the end, which is also shown by him being able to fight with water instead of against it
they didn't humanize him at all, they made him seem like a moronic child who's feeling emotions for the first time. vercingetorix would've pissed on his man and been disgusted by touching the same stream as him. just awful.
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How is him trying to, from his perspective, rescue his son for no reason besides its his son not the movie humanizing him? He's a directly parallel to the most human character in the movie, Sully, as well. He's not just a generic big bad when the movie ends with him retreating and the main character seeking bloodlust revenge
Also him being autistic ill say is just due to him technically being revived from the dead and in a new body (a new body which also alters the way you think and interact with the world)
It's less of an adventure story and the pace is loose so it plays out very differently. Instead of stringing you along in a consistent move from intro to credit it meanders then suddenly jolts forwards, that is a difference. Some used to say pandora was the main character well it's not the case in this new one.
>travel a bragrillion lightyear away from earth to visit a moon that has life on it >the aliens civilizations mirror earth civilizations
If there are aliens out there in the infinite span of space I guarantee they are not Maori aliens.
>Unlimited CGI to make creatures and action scenes >Star of the movie is a longhaired human boy in a loincloth
I walked out of this stinking motherfricker after 60 minutes. My girlfriend met me at the car later and laughed and couldn't believe it. I said it was a fricking insult of a movie.
Wrong Black person, they use small cartridges for their exo pack filters that they manufacture on Pandora. How do you think Norm Max and the gang survived thirteen years cut off from Earth
The only problem with it I remember was how they chose to leave their tribe and go with the water navis.
Fricking moronic. Should have made that spirit god influence them in some way.
Cameron needs better writing.
>tribal cultures with pregnant women on the front lines of grossly outclassed combat operations
I fricking hate this trend. The first time I saw this shit was in that one Wolfenstein game and it was so fricking bonkers to me. It just keeps happening too. Why? Who looks at this and thinks this is in any way empowering or cool or whatever?
Feminists aka communists. Proper ones consider any sex to be rape in the system of cishetero normative patriarchy and pregnancy is just parasitic clumps of cells imposed on them by the oppressor - men, so it is important that not even all this can slow them or hold them down.
I don't mind, this trend will just cause some leftoids to have miscarriage.
>women
It's a singular one and it's the queen and it's also meaningful that she's fighting along Jake Sully because throughout the movie they've shown to be at odds
Also these are giant fish hybrid human people, they're more capable of fighting even while pregnant
>women
It's a singular one and it's the queen and it's also meaningful that she's fighting along Jake Sully because throughout the movie they've shown to be at odds
Also these are giant fish hybrid human people, they're more capable of fighting even while pregnant
She's not just the tribe's spiritual leader but also the mother of the hostages lol. And these people just murdered her whale friend. Of course she's there, pregnant or not.
It's a product. If you need a good pizza, are you trusting Pizza Hut or someone's random grandma? Literally same idea. These companies build trust to make a competent product - not good, but competent. Now other businesses will make business deals with them for money. Translate the movie into other languages. Do food packaging tie-ins. Make Christmas ornaments. All based on a shitty middling movie in the first place. It's all just dumb bullshit.
Avatar 2's story is actually full of subversions if you think about it for more than 1 minute, I don't know why critics hate it so much
Claims of "generic story" are baseless
both movies have the villains be pretty ordinary corporate stooges acting like classic aliens, abducting people, using their advanced tech in nefarious ways, harvesting native life in outlandish ways, wearing the skins of the native inhabitants, invading from space.
The entire premise is a massive subversion
A shit generic writer would have Lo'ak get into gangs or some delinquent shit instead finding a brother in another outcast, have Quaritch try to brainwash Spider, have the reef people being either way too lenient or b***hy, give the colonizers dumb sob stories to imitate some grey conflict, etc
These "fixes" amongst others proposed by critics others make me physically cringe
>Feminists aka communists. Proper ones consider any sex to be rape in the system of cishetero normative patriarchy and pregnancy is just parasitic clumps of cells imposed on them by the oppressor - men, so it is important that not even all this can slow them or hold them down.
>I don't mind, this trend will just cause some leftoids to have miscarriage.
I went in with low expectations and I thought it was okay and I'm usually a very cynical boomer butthole
having the marine villain come back as an avatar was pretty cool
>leaves the forest tribe so they arent in danger >just forgets theyve been fighting a 14year guerrilla war against the humans and immediately forgets they exist >just thinks they'll be left alone and the humans won't try and get the unobtanium from under their spirit tree >muh whaling >bring the colonel back as an avatar >never explaines this was even a project
Did Cameron just give up trying to explain plot points?
The Metkayina village or as i call it the timeskip village, setting for the second, hour long act of the movie. The timeline during this middle segment is fricked and the character development happening there only starts to make sense if one inserts imaginary time in between the scenes. It would have worked out if it focused solely on Lo'ak's quest for acceptance but that plot plus Kiri's mopping, Quaritch's search, plus Tuk's play and Payakan scenes plus group scenes are crunched together, packed so tight that the string of events becomes unbelievable, incredible and ridiculous. J'Lo fricking up and being scolded 3 times in a row is the jarring result and this is the cause: a crunch of too many scenes evidently supposed to happen weeks apart in a sensible plot.
If you had watched it you would have been able to dive a little deeper than that into the movie's troubles but i suppose a flying critic, a spacefaring comment is what can be expected from a tired mind who reads 12000 words a day on the internet.
We read so many posts. Take a break.
Nah, it's great.
Y'all know that lying is a sin in God's eyes, right?
im going to guess that its visually impressive but the rest of the movie is ass
Nope, it actually had a compelling plot and good characters. Very good movie.
It literally has zero plot. Only good parts it rips off from his earlier movies like abyss. The cgi is actually pretty meh considering how much it was hyped the moxed 24 48fps and 3d looked poop the character models and soundtrack also sucked.
Why he waited 15 years to rehash his first movie is beyond me frick waiting another 8 years for this shit
I didn't find it visually impressive
I was looking at moronic blue cats?
And there was nothing about the CGI that was better than marvelshit. I guess, to be fair, it was better than DCslop CGI.
Great. Who gives a frick
This movie is LITERALLY the same movie as the first one except the battle is a bit smaller scale and it takes place on water instead of in the air and on the ground
>This movie is LITERALLY the same movie as the first
Either you haven't seen the movie, or you are genuinely moronic.
It literally has the same villain, the same arc of learning that natives are better than evil white people for two hours before a battle, and then they have a fight
It is 100% the same movie lol
What meaningful differences are there?
>the same arc of learning that natives are better than evil white people
Are you stupid
They humanize Quaritch through his relationship with Spider and show that Jake was a fool to run instead of fighting. It also does not believe in native superiority because Jake Sully and Quaritch are set apart from them due to their ability to strategize and consider failing scenarios. It's really nuanced because it's both a blessing and a curse, Jake Sully cannot relate to his kids or wife who wish to just face the enemy yet it allows him to be powerful in the first place and live to see another day. Proven by how Jake and Quaritch are both able to conquer the creatures of the sky very easily whereas the more natural animals of the ocean give them trouble. Though ultimately Jake wins by giving up parts of his humanity, seen as his intent to face Quaritch as the end, which is also shown by him being able to fight with water instead of against it
they didn't humanize him at all, they made him seem like a moronic child who's feeling emotions for the first time. vercingetorix would've pissed on his man and been disgusted by touching the same stream as him. just awful.
How is him trying to, from his perspective, rescue his son for no reason besides its his son not the movie humanizing him? He's a directly parallel to the most human character in the movie, Sully, as well. He's not just a generic big bad when the movie ends with him retreating and the main character seeking bloodlust revenge
Also him being autistic ill say is just due to him technically being revived from the dead and in a new body (a new body which also alters the way you think and interact with the world)
It's less of an adventure story and the pace is loose so it plays out very differently. Instead of stringing you along in a consistent move from intro to credit it meanders then suddenly jolts forwards, that is a difference. Some used to say pandora was the main character well it's not the case in this new one.
it's boring until the final battle which is pretty cool
Visually I wasn't impressed as for the plot, unless you didn't see the first you knew what you were going to get: nothing.
holy frick is that girl preggo?
Well you see when a daddy alien and a mommy alien love each other very much...
...they take their hair squids and shlick them together!
How does it compare to the first one?
>travel a bragrillion lightyear away from earth to visit a moon that has life on it
>the aliens civilizations mirror earth civilizations
If there are aliens out there in the infinite span of space I guarantee they are not Maori aliens.
This. And
>Unlimited CGI to make creatures and action scenes
>Star of the movie is a longhaired human boy in a loincloth
I walked out of this stinking motherfricker after 60 minutes. My girlfriend met me at the car later and laughed and couldn't believe it. I said it was a fricking insult of a movie.
shut up, you fricking homosexual
ANON
WHAT DOES THE SYMBOL MEAN?!?!
yes, accept the symbolism
you will know about it soon
CHOOSE YOUR ASTRA MILITARUM WAIFU TO PURGE PANDORA OF XENO FILTH
the humans cant survive on pandora without a steady supply of oxygen that they need to import from earth
Wrong Black person, they use small cartridges for their exo pack filters that they manufacture on Pandora. How do you think Norm Max and the gang survived thirteen years cut off from Earth
Mordian Iron Guard gf for me bros.. Only regimented schedules of serious handholding and missionary for me..
haha.
but for real, tho, purge the xenos.
The only problem with it I remember was how they chose to leave their tribe and go with the water navis.
Fricking moronic. Should have made that spirit god influence them in some way.
Cameron needs better writing.
Pretty great movie. OP is definitely fatherless and childless, thankfully.
>tribal cultures with pregnant women on the front lines of grossly outclassed combat operations
I fricking hate this trend. The first time I saw this shit was in that one Wolfenstein game and it was so fricking bonkers to me. It just keeps happening too. Why? Who looks at this and thinks this is in any way empowering or cool or whatever?
Feminists aka communists. Proper ones consider any sex to be rape in the system of cishetero normative patriarchy and pregnancy is just parasitic clumps of cells imposed on them by the oppressor - men, so it is important that not even all this can slow them or hold them down.
I don't mind, this trend will just cause some leftoids to have miscarriage.
>women
It's a singular one and it's the queen and it's also meaningful that she's fighting along Jake Sully because throughout the movie they've shown to be at odds
Also these are giant fish hybrid human people, they're more capable of fighting even while pregnant
She's not just the tribe's spiritual leader but also the mother of the hostages lol. And these people just murdered her whale friend. Of course she's there, pregnant or not.
new spiderman has a pregnant single mom black lady
>single mom
Come on now
ya that is redundant D eS U
It was absolute trash for low iq trash people.
no one cares about it or talks about it yet it makes trillions, how
It's a product. If you need a good pizza, are you trusting Pizza Hut or someone's random grandma? Literally same idea. These companies build trust to make a competent product - not good, but competent. Now other businesses will make business deals with them for money. Translate the movie into other languages. Do food packaging tie-ins. Make Christmas ornaments. All based on a shitty middling movie in the first place. It's all just dumb bullshit.
filtered
I don't know people say this looks good. It looks horrid. The very nice looking real background and then the cartoon whale. It's ridiculous
Wrong
What the hell am I "Wrong" about?
I'm watching a realistic sunset and then a cartoon whale splash out. It's a total artistic clash that looks awful.
imagine literally being wrong with this much confidence.
Imagine actually watching this homosexual garbage. An hero you gigahomo.
Not being able to appreciate something well made because you have an moral aversion to it is a sad way to live
you're fricking moronic
>mexican whale in space
Avatar 2's story is actually full of subversions if you think about it for more than 1 minute, I don't know why critics hate it so much
Claims of "generic story" are baseless
both movies have the villains be pretty ordinary corporate stooges acting like classic aliens, abducting people, using their advanced tech in nefarious ways, harvesting native life in outlandish ways, wearing the skins of the native inhabitants, invading from space.
The entire premise is a massive subversion
A shit generic writer would have Lo'ak get into gangs or some delinquent shit instead finding a brother in another outcast, have Quaritch try to brainwash Spider, have the reef people being either way too lenient or b***hy, give the colonizers dumb sob stories to imitate some grey conflict, etc
These "fixes" amongst others proposed by critics others make me physically cringe
>Feminists aka communists. Proper ones consider any sex to be rape in the system of cishetero normative patriarchy and pregnancy is just parasitic clumps of cells imposed on them by the oppressor - men, so it is important that not even all this can slow them or hold them down.
>I don't mind, this trend will just cause some leftoids to have miscarriage.
Maybe it's a good movie, I'll never know because of those stupid blue monsters, they take me right out of it
I went in with low expectations and I thought it was okay and I'm usually a very cynical boomer butthole
having the marine villain come back as an avatar was pretty cool
On the special features disc cameron says spider and kiri will play major roles in the next sequels
It's fine. Good action, good cg, story is pretty simple but by no means bad.
It's basically a fantasy nature documentary with some loose storytelling and action to validate its existence which is also fine.
Only pajeets like this shit
Jeets aren't rich enough to see this in IMAX 3D, are there even any in that place
>leaves the forest tribe so they arent in danger
>just forgets theyve been fighting a 14year guerrilla war against the humans and immediately forgets they exist
>just thinks they'll be left alone and the humans won't try and get the unobtanium from under their spirit tree
>muh whaling
>bring the colonel back as an avatar
>never explaines this was even a project
Did Cameron just give up trying to explain plot points?
The Metkayina village or as i call it the timeskip village, setting for the second, hour long act of the movie. The timeline during this middle segment is fricked and the character development happening there only starts to make sense if one inserts imaginary time in between the scenes. It would have worked out if it focused solely on Lo'ak's quest for acceptance but that plot plus Kiri's mopping, Quaritch's search, plus Tuk's play and Payakan scenes plus group scenes are crunched together, packed so tight that the string of events becomes unbelievable, incredible and ridiculous. J'Lo fricking up and being scolded 3 times in a row is the jarring result and this is the cause: a crunch of too many scenes evidently supposed to happen weeks apart in a sensible plot.
Still haven't watched it. I dislike rooting against humans
If you had watched it you would have been able to dive a little deeper than that into the movie's troubles but i suppose a flying critic, a spacefaring comment is what can be expected from a tired mind who reads 12000 words a day on the internet.
We read so many posts. Take a break.
Dude, I just saw it the other day. It's so predictable and the CGI is jank when it's not a major fight.
All the Sullys are super warriors and that big fight at the end doesn't even involve the water clan beyond the initial charge.
It really was a piece of shit.
The first was wasn't even that good.