Everyone should explain before recommending this that its a tv movie, i came in with that in mind and enjoyed the slow burn dread. This movie was made for education
I wonder if the average person nowadays understands what total nuclear war between any combination of Russia, China, and the West would actually be like. Does the average person in the street know that the missiles take about 30 minutes to reach their targets once launched and that such a war could destroy every major city in each country involved and cause 100+ million deaths on the first day, if the other side chose a countervalue strategy?
Too bad it would be hard for a movie like this or The Day After to be funded and reach a mainstream audience nowadays.
Since the missiles reach their targets in ~30 minutes, it's very possible that once launched the local government would have no time to even warn anyone, so we'd be just going about our day and suddenly with no warning at all we would get vaporized without having had the slightest idea that it was coming other than maybe having read some news article about "high tensions between US and Russia".
No nowadays its considered a "far right" position to want to de-escalate the war with russia to avoid nuclear apocalypse. It's much more important to virtue signal how morally correct you are while constantly pushing us towards the brink
Yeah, the generation of Americans that grew up after the Cold War mostly has no understanding of what it could mean to get into a war that involves nuclear weapons and not just fighting against light infantry in the Muslim world
Usually because de-escalate means to give Russia everything they want and let Ukraine have it's territories and freedom taken from it. This sets a dangerous precedent that Russia can retake the ex-soviet states with no resistance. If they want de-escalation they can just stop the invasion and go home
This is what I mean. War is not about virtue signalling. Imagine if japan got 2 nukes dropped on them but they still refuse to surrender because of their moral superiority and america keeps dropping more nukes until every last jap is dead. The point of surrender is to end further suffering, you don't get to dictate the terms when you're losing
>let
You don't actually have a choice, that's kind of what a war is anon. Your choice is only how much needless suffering you inflict in exchange for feeling virtuous
>go home
Many of these independent states were considered “Russia” right through the 18th and 19th centuries, and thereafter the USSR, which became synonymous with Russia.
Crimea is only a part of Ukraine because Kruschev signed it over on a whim in the 1950s.
I don't care how countries were formed 200 years ago and I don't care about territories given over 70 years ago. This is the 21st century and it's no longer considered proper to let nuclear states claim the territories of non nuclear states. Allowing this to continue will lead to a world where every country has nuclear programs and the apocalypse is constantly looming.
>let
You don't actually have a choice, that's kind of what a war is anon. Your choice is only how much needless suffering you inflict in exchange for feeling virtuous
Actually we do have a choice, we can support Ukraine with arms and training to keep their territory while making it clear we won't commit soldiers or support a counter offensive into Russian territory
That's exactly what I said, you have the choice to prolongue needless suffering in exchange for virtue signalling. You can only do that for so long though because all the equipment and funding in the world means little when you have no manpower left
11 months ago
Anonymous
Ukraine is already needlessly suffering because Russia decided to invade them. We're giving them the tools to fight back, if they want to surrender and allow themselves to become part of Russia then they can but they're choosing to fight for what's theirs
11 months ago
Anonymous
They're needlessly suffering more than they need to because of zelenskys choices. And no, ukranians cannot just choose something else like you inply, considering zelensky jails his political opponents and has suspended elections
11 months ago
Anonymous
I think saying that saying zelensky is an evil dictator that has unilaterally decided to prolong the conflict is a bit simplistic. My understanding is that the fight for independence in Ukraine is popular among the people there as it would be in basically every country that is invaded by their neighbor
You morons aren't all there, are you? You have allies in a lot of people, up to a point, but your ignorance and unwillingness to do your own research and constant willingness to accept the prescribed narrative makes you all seem like morons to anyone with a clear pair of eyes and ears.
Having no counter argument and just spewing adhoms is only making one of us look like a moron
11 months ago
Anonymous
Zelensky literally jails his critics and has suspended elections in his country. Your implications that ukranians can "make a choice" about the course of the war is outright false. They cannot vote for any outcome, there is no democracy, their is no choice, they cannot even voice their criticisms. Even american citiczens have been jailed by zelensky. Ukraine is demographically completely destroyed needlessly due to the stubborn virtue signaling of the western world which you're currently exhibiting. Never in history have humans behaved this irrationally before and I blame social media. We're going to be plunged into nuclear war because of people like you who think this is star wars and can't stop moralizing at the expense of human lives
11 months ago
Anonymous
you must be unbearably naive, ofcourse elections are postponed when they get invaded by russia and lose 20% of their territory. with millions of people displaced or engaged in the war effort, the logistics of making a clean election alone would be almost impossible.
cowering before a bully only makes them more aggressive, ukraine did the right thing by fighting the russians. this war was forced on them by putin. and the only thing russia is gonna nuke is russia when it starts falling apart
11 months ago
Anonymous
You're either a fricking moron or an actual Russian taking advantage of no flags on Cinemaphile. Wagner guy marched his 20k guys over 600 miles through Russia unopposed, with people bringing his forces food and water and taking selfies next to his tanks. With popular support toppling an unpopular government isn't really that difficult. And that's with Putin in charge, the guy who probably thinks about coup-prevention 24/7.
You think some comedian politician has a firmer grip on his military and people? Ukrainians don't want Russians to rule over them and will fight them regardless of who's in charge. If Zelensky said let's surrender he'd be ousted. And it makes sense for all Western nations to support Ukraine, not on moralistic but pure practicality grounds
11 months ago
Anonymous
>it makes sense for all Western nations to support Ukraine, not on moralistic but pure practicality grounds
such as? Keep in mind nobody thinks Ukraine can win the war with this level of aid
11 months ago
Anonymous
For Euro nations it means safety against inevitable future Russian expansion. For US it means increased weapon sales all across the board. For every shitty MRAP that gets sent to Ukraine, a nation somewhere will buy a fighter jet. The ultimate prize being destabilisation of Russia and possibly a civil war that would break them apart so as to use its wast resources but that's more of wishful thinking.
You morons aren't all there, are you? You have allies in a lot of people, up to a point, but your ignorance and unwillingness to do your own research and constant willingness to accept the prescribed narrative makes you all seem like morons to anyone with a clear pair of eyes and ears.
no. the average normal person want nuclear apocalypse because they been brainwashed by Netflix to think the apocalypse, is a wholesome time and they are the main character so they cant die a gruesome death.
Nuclear weapons aren't for the most part aimed at population centers, but rather military targets. The kind of total annihilation described here is unrealistic, nobody would shoot their first (most important) nukes at a random city, but rather enemy missile silos if anything to try to protect themselves from a counter strike. Destroying cities for the lulz would only start happening later, if at all, by whichever side is the most autocratic shithole and/or losing the worst.
Seeing how various wunderwaffles turned to be pieces of shit maybe there wouldn't even be a nuclear holocaust. I bet like half of silos wouldn't even fire especially Russian or Chinese ones and that's before nearby explosions of nukes that do launch and make their way to their target. I feel like nuclear subs and bombers would fare much better
If it was a limited strike, then no probably not.
But if it was a general attack, then of course cities would be targeted, especially places of government or sites of economic importance like refineries, airports with long runways, etc which happen to be in or near a city.
>just let him come in your house and frick your wife and beat you to death he's stronger after all
zigger brainlets arguing that might makes right then crying about westoids trying to frick russia up the ass kek. Biggest brainlets on the planet
Our NZ gov in the 80's commissioned a study into the effects of nuclear warfare on NZ, under the assumption that we weren't targeted we would very quickly run into medical supply issues and most elective surgeries would cease, we would be good on food for the most part but fuel and equipment to replace critical infrastructure would need to be heavily regulated.
threads is boring as hell. The road actually fricked me up. The worst parts were actually the dreams the man would have of fingerblasting his wife at a piano concert and drinking with her in the idyllic summer sun, knowing he would wake up back in hell
The movie failed to translate the book's reason for existing, which I'm not sure I could put into words. On paper, you can read between the lines and imagine yourself in that world. Viggo isn't the most relatable person. I found him simultaneously perfect and wrong, Charlize Theron was bad yet haunting. Weird movie. Not that I think it should've had war of the worlds type set pieces, but the lack of context in the book turned into a series of muddled, anonymous environments on film. Maybe just one zoom out overhead of the burnt land.
the image you make in your head while reading the book and the way it stretches your imagination can never be topped or replicated by a movie.
I enjoyed the casting and found the movie to be nearly 100% faithful to the book. The lack of context is frustrating in both but its clearly the author's decision which I understand
Of course it's immoral to fund slave soldiers in a faraway country, but everybody does that. The real problem is we don't give them nearly enough to win, so it's just a clear-cut atrocity against the ukrainian people. American interest is limited to a few years of competitive fracking, a new round of military industrial spending, and the destruction of UKRAINE which would otherwise be of use to Russia.
A bird
Looks like coomer basedjack in the thumbnail. Sorry for your loss.
>bros
Interesting.. a onions construct yet with the skin of a pepe... I must investigate further.
Any progress in your investigation, Chudlock Holmes?
for me, it was the mom and dad who survived in the lean-to and the mom had half her face melted
It was boring as frick. Cinemaphile lied to me yet again
Everyone should explain before recommending this that its a tv movie, i came in with that in mind and enjoyed the slow burn dread. This movie was made for education
>This movie was made for education
that explains why you're such a moron
Meh, I'll just watch Miracle Mile again. Or Dr Strangelove. The best nuke fiction is comedic.
Miracle mile is way better than threads
Imagine being fricked up for life by a shitty made for tv turd. lmfao.
I wonder if the average person nowadays understands what total nuclear war between any combination of Russia, China, and the West would actually be like. Does the average person in the street know that the missiles take about 30 minutes to reach their targets once launched and that such a war could destroy every major city in each country involved and cause 100+ million deaths on the first day, if the other side chose a countervalue strategy?
Too bad it would be hard for a movie like this or The Day After to be funded and reach a mainstream audience nowadays.
I would hope I would get vaporized instantly honestly
Since the missiles reach their targets in ~30 minutes, it's very possible that once launched the local government would have no time to even warn anyone, so we'd be just going about our day and suddenly with no warning at all we would get vaporized without having had the slightest idea that it was coming other than maybe having read some news article about "high tensions between US and Russia".
better than having to deal with hordes of crazed starving irradiated normies
No nowadays its considered a "far right" position to want to de-escalate the war with russia to avoid nuclear apocalypse. It's much more important to virtue signal how morally correct you are while constantly pushing us towards the brink
Yeah, the generation of Americans that grew up after the Cold War mostly has no understanding of what it could mean to get into a war that involves nuclear weapons and not just fighting against light infantry in the Muslim world
Usually because de-escalate means to give Russia everything they want and let Ukraine have it's territories and freedom taken from it. This sets a dangerous precedent that Russia can retake the ex-soviet states with no resistance. If they want de-escalation they can just stop the invasion and go home
hi israelite
This is what I mean. War is not about virtue signalling. Imagine if japan got 2 nukes dropped on them but they still refuse to surrender because of their moral superiority and america keeps dropping more nukes until every last jap is dead. The point of surrender is to end further suffering, you don't get to dictate the terms when you're losing
you just described an example of dictating terms while losing a sentence prior you pretentious homosexual
are you moronic?
So your solution is to let bigger nations take over smaller ones? Sounds like that will lead to more conflict, not less
>let
You don't actually have a choice, that's kind of what a war is anon. Your choice is only how much needless suffering you inflict in exchange for feeling virtuous
Nah. Give them Ukraine. Just don’t tell Putin he can just walk across the top of the world, and March in Canada unopposed. It’ll be our little secret.
>go home
Many of these independent states were considered “Russia” right through the 18th and 19th centuries, and thereafter the USSR, which became synonymous with Russia.
Crimea is only a part of Ukraine because Kruschev signed it over on a whim in the 1950s.
It’s all just bullshit, from every side.
I don't care how countries were formed 200 years ago and I don't care about territories given over 70 years ago. This is the 21st century and it's no longer considered proper to let nuclear states claim the territories of non nuclear states. Allowing this to continue will lead to a world where every country has nuclear programs and the apocalypse is constantly looming.
Actually we do have a choice, we can support Ukraine with arms and training to keep their territory while making it clear we won't commit soldiers or support a counter offensive into Russian territory
That's exactly what I said, you have the choice to prolongue needless suffering in exchange for virtue signalling. You can only do that for so long though because all the equipment and funding in the world means little when you have no manpower left
Ukraine is already needlessly suffering because Russia decided to invade them. We're giving them the tools to fight back, if they want to surrender and allow themselves to become part of Russia then they can but they're choosing to fight for what's theirs
They're needlessly suffering more than they need to because of zelenskys choices. And no, ukranians cannot just choose something else like you inply, considering zelensky jails his political opponents and has suspended elections
I think saying that saying zelensky is an evil dictator that has unilaterally decided to prolong the conflict is a bit simplistic. My understanding is that the fight for independence in Ukraine is popular among the people there as it would be in basically every country that is invaded by their neighbor
Having no counter argument and just spewing adhoms is only making one of us look like a moron
Zelensky literally jails his critics and has suspended elections in his country. Your implications that ukranians can "make a choice" about the course of the war is outright false. They cannot vote for any outcome, there is no democracy, their is no choice, they cannot even voice their criticisms. Even american citiczens have been jailed by zelensky. Ukraine is demographically completely destroyed needlessly due to the stubborn virtue signaling of the western world which you're currently exhibiting. Never in history have humans behaved this irrationally before and I blame social media. We're going to be plunged into nuclear war because of people like you who think this is star wars and can't stop moralizing at the expense of human lives
you must be unbearably naive, ofcourse elections are postponed when they get invaded by russia and lose 20% of their territory. with millions of people displaced or engaged in the war effort, the logistics of making a clean election alone would be almost impossible.
cowering before a bully only makes them more aggressive, ukraine did the right thing by fighting the russians. this war was forced on them by putin. and the only thing russia is gonna nuke is russia when it starts falling apart
You're either a fricking moron or an actual Russian taking advantage of no flags on Cinemaphile. Wagner guy marched his 20k guys over 600 miles through Russia unopposed, with people bringing his forces food and water and taking selfies next to his tanks. With popular support toppling an unpopular government isn't really that difficult. And that's with Putin in charge, the guy who probably thinks about coup-prevention 24/7.
You think some comedian politician has a firmer grip on his military and people? Ukrainians don't want Russians to rule over them and will fight them regardless of who's in charge. If Zelensky said let's surrender he'd be ousted. And it makes sense for all Western nations to support Ukraine, not on moralistic but pure practicality grounds
>it makes sense for all Western nations to support Ukraine, not on moralistic but pure practicality grounds
such as? Keep in mind nobody thinks Ukraine can win the war with this level of aid
For Euro nations it means safety against inevitable future Russian expansion. For US it means increased weapon sales all across the board. For every shitty MRAP that gets sent to Ukraine, a nation somewhere will buy a fighter jet. The ultimate prize being destabilisation of Russia and possibly a civil war that would break them apart so as to use its wast resources but that's more of wishful thinking.
You morons aren't all there, are you? You have allies in a lot of people, up to a point, but your ignorance and unwillingness to do your own research and constant willingness to accept the prescribed narrative makes you all seem like morons to anyone with a clear pair of eyes and ears.
no. the average normal person want nuclear apocalypse because they been brainwashed by Netflix to think the apocalypse, is a wholesome time and they are the main character so they cant die a gruesome death.
Nuclear weapons aren't for the most part aimed at population centers, but rather military targets. The kind of total annihilation described here is unrealistic, nobody would shoot their first (most important) nukes at a random city, but rather enemy missile silos if anything to try to protect themselves from a counter strike. Destroying cities for the lulz would only start happening later, if at all, by whichever side is the most autocratic shithole and/or losing the worst.
Seeing how various wunderwaffles turned to be pieces of shit maybe there wouldn't even be a nuclear holocaust. I bet like half of silos wouldn't even fire especially Russian or Chinese ones and that's before nearby explosions of nukes that do launch and make their way to their target. I feel like nuclear subs and bombers would fare much better
If it was a limited strike, then no probably not.
But if it was a general attack, then of course cities would be targeted, especially places of government or sites of economic importance like refineries, airports with long runways, etc which happen to be in or near a city.
>just let him come in your house and frick your wife and beat you to death he's stronger after all
zigger brainlets arguing that might makes right then crying about westoids trying to frick russia up the ass kek. Biggest brainlets on the planet
BASTARDS! 500 CALORIES, ONLY ONE TART, ONLY ONE LAMB CHOP!
We're the Commies now.
>He still thinks nuclear weapons are real
LMFAOOO!!!! Hi little goy cattle :]
It's moronic. The country would either be rebuilt or occupied by the enemy within the year.
Why? I've seen it twice and it is decent but the ending was kinda abrupt and unsatisfying.
How would Africa and Australia or South America look like? New Zealand or even China and asia?
>Australia
for a series set in australia, mad max sure has no boongs
As an Australian I can confirm no one would bother nuking us because no one would give a shit.
Our NZ gov in the 80's commissioned a study into the effects of nuclear warfare on NZ, under the assumption that we weren't targeted we would very quickly run into medical supply issues and most elective surgeries would cease, we would be good on food for the most part but fuel and equipment to replace critical infrastructure would need to be heavily regulated.
just invent medieval versions of every procedure bro. where's your anglo spirit of innovation?
It's more like the supply chain of drugs and antibiotics would cease and we don't have the knowledge of production here.
threads is boring as hell. The road actually fricked me up. The worst parts were actually the dreams the man would have of fingerblasting his wife at a piano concert and drinking with her in the idyllic summer sun, knowing he would wake up back in hell
The Road didn't really work as a movie. The book is good though
the book is obviously much better but the movie wasn't bad at all. Perfect casting and entertaining
The movie failed to translate the book's reason for existing, which I'm not sure I could put into words. On paper, you can read between the lines and imagine yourself in that world. Viggo isn't the most relatable person. I found him simultaneously perfect and wrong, Charlize Theron was bad yet haunting. Weird movie. Not that I think it should've had war of the worlds type set pieces, but the lack of context in the book turned into a series of muddled, anonymous environments on film. Maybe just one zoom out overhead of the burnt land.
the image you make in your head while reading the book and the way it stretches your imagination can never be topped or replicated by a movie.
I enjoyed the casting and found the movie to be nearly 100% faithful to the book. The lack of context is frustrating in both but its clearly the author's decision which I understand
Of course it's immoral to fund slave soldiers in a faraway country, but everybody does that. The real problem is we don't give them nearly enough to win, so it's just a clear-cut atrocity against the ukrainian people. American interest is limited to a few years of competitive fracking, a new round of military industrial spending, and the destruction of UKRAINE which would otherwise be of use to Russia.
GIZZZZ ET
>proceeds to violently rape
you have to admit that was some funny shit
ehh. way too over the top.
Watch "The War Game (1965)".
>the crown banned it from being released for 20 years because they thought it was too horrifying for the general population