This slop (decent) got zero advertisement but is outperforming the Marvel(s). What explains this?
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This slop (decent) got zero advertisement but is outperforming the Marvel(s). What explains this?
The lead hates Men and one of the supporting cast is a troony so it can't be because of wokeness
Nobody but the most aspie basement shut in thinks about any of that for Marvels. It flopped being people are tired of the B and C tier hero based capeshit post Endgame.
and the trailers for Marvels did it no favors.
Its a girl movie/genre that targets girls
This. Women don't care for superhero movies. They like YA schlock like Hunger games. Marvel is moronic trying to fit a round peg into a square hole, market niches exist for a reason.
Superhero movies are less popular among women, but the difference is less than you might think.
So they like seeing sexy men as heroes, they don't live vicariously themselves through heroines
Maybe, maybe not.
For one thing, it's based on a popular book series. For another, teenage girls and their moms go to movies to see hot guys as the leads to obsess and post thirst traps about him on social media later.
I mean the original trilogy was popular but the prequel was pretty unknown. There were also a lot of men at my screening
This was better than the original films tbh. Snow should've been the protagonist for the whole series.
yeah I had never heard of this guy and he was actually pretty good
it had standard advertisement. just because you have adblock and don't use social media doesn't mean it had none
now as far as the performance.. it has less than half the budget of the marvels and it appeals to its target audience. marvel's audience is mostly men aged 25-34 and the marvels is a movie that only appeals to children aged 6-12
>marvel's audience is mostly men aged 25-34
Looks like the peak of bell curve is at 30 years old for comic readers. And more than 60% are men.
I also think there's a pretty big overlap between comics readers and mcu watchers, but that overlap is shrinking because marvel is becoming very popular among normalgays.
You're assuming the age distribution is a bell curve, first of all. And it's also a huge assumption to say that the audience of comics and mcu movies is mostly the same.
>age distribution is a bell curve
That's a safe bet, but yeah. I have no fact to snack that up.
The only source of my gut feeling is my nintendie comic-reading friend.
All I know is that during phase 1 & 2, all the diehard Marvel fans I knew were a bunch of girls at my high school who thought Loki and Thor were hot.
The advertisement is the book
100% of people i know who saw it told me they got in because of curiosity and boredom, and got out saying "well it was nice and new enough"
that's it
NICE AND NEW ENOUGH
This movie was pretty decent, especially the set design and the story is gruesome as well.
The quality of this move was better than the schlock that was previewed beforehand.
The Marvels is a movie for women that has nothing women like. It's a girl boss feature with unattractive actors in a franchise that's always been male-dominated that now requires homework.
Hunger Games has always been schlock for women and this continues the trend. Its budget is also a fraction of Marvels'.
Lucy Gray is also a good self insert for the ladies. In fact, ironically enough, she’s pretty much checks all the boxes for a Disney princess.
saw this last night with the gf, it was actually decent and much better than any of the previous hunger games movies
didn't happen but ok
exact same scenario for me. i didn't even mind the previous HG movies that much, but this one shit all over them except maybe the original. brown chick got pretty annoying by the end, was hoping Snow would cap her to complete his villain arc
Hunger games is a franchise made for women by women, The Marvels is a film made for women by men.
The Marvels is a film made for women by women but only watched by men
It’s bombing too, moron.
It’s a pretty big brand, but they waited too long for this, and I dont think there’s as much nostalgia for HG vs Twilight or Potter. Not to mention feels like a much smaller universe to explore than Twilight or Potter. Twilight in particular could be opened up a lot more, especially if they went beyond werewolves and vamps.
The metric of financial success for this movie is different than normal because lionsgate completely sold the international rights, they probably already made their money back. Nor would I call this an attempt to reignite the franchise. Another book came out and there was an opportunity to adapt it.
This film has the most moronic title. A ballad of songbirds and snakes
I sounds like they just wanted to copy George RR Martin
It’s too long. Should’ve just been called hunger games: songbirds and snakes
It's actually good.
drags too long after the hunger games-part concludes
also has a weird ending with non-committal sequel bait
I don't think that's sequel bait, it's already a prequel.
>I don't think
correct
you're both right. the ending theoretically leads into HG1 just fine as is, but they left plenty there for sequel material - Lucy Grey's fate being unknown, all of Snow's deceptions in the districts like the murder weapons in the lake and his part in sejanus's death going undiscovered, plus the black lady gamemaker never got her comeuppance either.
Well the director said he'd only do another movie if Collins ever writes another book, so it would depend on that. And she doesn't seem to want to milk the franchise too much or she would have written Haymitch or Finnick's games or something.
because people technically know what the Hunger Games is, unlike "the Marvels".
It's not that this movie is doing particularly well, it's that Marvel and Disney have lost their audiences. THG:TBOSAS made $44 million it's opening weekend, which is paltry compared to the other Hunger Games films.
I thought it was weird they cast some multiracial mutt as Snow but turns out he just looks like a normal white guy.
Why did they make him caramel for the movie?