The crown of Aragon was considering a royal marriage aliance with Ethiopia that would have directly lowered the Jhizia tax we swear. I wonder why it didnt fall through...
>the one where it is generally frowned upon to decapitate the foreign nation's ambassador within just a couple minutes of meeting him
Again, which law specifically?
You clearly didn't even watch the scene. You're just repeating a stale meme. Aragorn never offered or requested a truce to parlay. Gandalf explicitly tells the Mouth that they are not there to negotiate. Aragorn demands Sauron appear *in person* to receive his justice.
The Mouth had no reason to expect any kind of protection once he walked out from that gate.
it's still a bad look to, as your first diplomatic act as king, to kill the first guy who is at least TRYING to negotiate. how do you think the men of dale will react once they hear the news that the new kings is just going to kill anybody immediately who doesn't instantly do what he wants
he was just starting the conversation by bringing to the table his most convincing argument in order that his ensuing offer would be better received, which is quite common in negotiation you know
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>bringing to the table his most convincing argument in order that his ensuing offer
What offer? The orcs were there to kill all the humans, nothing more. They had nothing to argue about. >which is quite common in negotiation you know
Again, you dense frick, they were not there to negotiate.
You're either a troll or literally too stupid to argue with.
War crimes are a modern bullshit concept that mean nothing other than for propaganda purposes, monarchs would have emissaries killed all the time basically as a way of telling the other guy 'frick you'
Even by today's standards if your nation/axis declares war against everyone else no one that matters will care if anyone commits war crimes against you.
Daily reminder Tolkien absolutely seethed over a potential 1950 LotR script that was about 1000 times more faithful than the PJ movies over literally any minor change to include more excitement or tighten up the pacing to a movie standard
He's not wrong in this instance. But there is a reason why book writers usually don't write the scripts for movie adaptions. You have to cut stuff out and make things simpler. And the director has his own vision as well.
>the director has his own vision as well.
And this is why adaptations are usually fricking shit. All they need to do is trim the fat to make it fit the format of film. But all these directors have to have their own spin on it. Imagine being that conceited. Imagine getting a chance to adapt a beloved story/franchise and being so full of yourself that you think you can do better than the original author. So instead of Goku being a Chinese hillbilly orphan, he's a teenager at Capsule Corp High School. Or Judge Dredd and Master Chief taking their helmets off at every opportunity. Or OC Donut Steel main characters like Cole Young in Mortal Kombat '21. These homosexual ass directors need to get their egos checked and shit kicked in. Who the frick wanted Amazon Prime presents Otto Bathurst's Halo? I sure as shit didn't. I wanted Halo. Just plane ol' Halo. All they had to do was turn the games and Nylund novels into live action cinematics. But NoooOOOoooOOOo. Making fans happy is [insert any "-ist"word here].
What's funny is that IRL this was such a shameful act that the Spartans, in an effort to atone for it, sent 2 citizens many years later to the Persian king to offer themselves for execution but the king declined and said that letting them live with the shame was worse punishment.
Tree wizard - how many times will he check the balloon?
>checks geneva convention signatures
nope no gondor or mordor on it. aragorn did nothing wrong
>Applies modern morality and politics to a fantasy world
What is Aragon's tax policy adjusted to inflation?
your mom, like 5 cents or so
The crown of Aragon was considering a royal marriage aliance with Ethiopia that would have directly lowered the Jhizia tax we swear. I wonder why it didnt fall through...
>This was a war crime.
Yeah? Which law, specifically?
the one where it is generally frowned upon to decapitate the foreign nation's ambassador within just a couple minutes of meeting him
>the one where it is generally frowned upon to decapitate the foreign nation's ambassador within just a couple minutes of meeting him
Again, which law specifically?
>frowned upon
>crime
crimes are frowned upon
frown upon these
*shows balls*
*frowns*
women frown at you
....but not everything that is frowned upon is a crime
You clearly didn't even watch the scene. You're just repeating a stale meme. Aragorn never offered or requested a truce to parlay. Gandalf explicitly tells the Mouth that they are not there to negotiate. Aragorn demands Sauron appear *in person* to receive his justice.
The Mouth had no reason to expect any kind of protection once he walked out from that gate.
it's still a bad look to, as your first diplomatic act as king, to kill the first guy who is at least TRYING to negotiate. how do you think the men of dale will react once they hear the news that the new kings is just going to kill anybody immediately who doesn't instantly do what he wants
>trying to negotiate
>"hello we killed your friends, here's my proof"
>rightly gets his head removed from his shoulders
the mouth started something he couldn't finish
he was just starting the conversation by bringing to the table his most convincing argument in order that his ensuing offer would be better received, which is quite common in negotiation you know
>bringing to the table his most convincing argument in order that his ensuing offer
What offer? The orcs were there to kill all the humans, nothing more. They had nothing to argue about.
>which is quite common in negotiation you know
Again, you dense frick, they were not there to negotiate.
You're either a troll or literally too stupid to argue with.
>iT's a WaRCriME!!
>ok well, maybe it wasnt. But it's still a bad look
Concession accepted
and I concede YOUR concession that it's a bad look!
Nobody ever said otherwise you contrarian frickstick. You lost, your post is stupid, cope seethe and mald.
Look guys, someone has to win this internet argument, otherwise what's the point?
its already over, i won
You are mistaken, sir. I have accepted your concession.
okay, but what if the foreign nation's ambassador is a construct that exists only to mock those it addresses?
The Mouth was a Black Numenorian sorcerer not an avatar of Sauron
War crimes are a modern bullshit concept that mean nothing other than for propaganda purposes, monarchs would have emissaries killed all the time basically as a way of telling the other guy 'frick you'
this was also a war crime
Shouldn't attack a city when you know the elderly and children will have to defend it, then.
it's only a war crime if you lose.
he could have not threaten the other union workers
Even by today's standards if your nation/axis declares war against everyone else no one that matters will care if anyone commits war crimes against you.
If the king does it, while activly serving his realm.
>It isnt
name of movie?
>haha look we killed your midgets
>noooo don't kill our guy, that's a war crime!!!!!!!
Daily reminder Tolkien absolutely seethed over a potential 1950 LotR script that was about 1000 times more faithful than the PJ movies over literally any minor change to include more excitement or tighten up the pacing to a movie standard
does he write more about his disdain for the script?
you know, he's right. that scene would have been much better as a creepy ethereal suffocation than the goofy flailing
He's not wrong in this instance. But there is a reason why book writers usually don't write the scripts for movie adaptions. You have to cut stuff out and make things simpler. And the director has his own vision as well.
>the director has his own vision as well.
And this is why adaptations are usually fricking shit. All they need to do is trim the fat to make it fit the format of film. But all these directors have to have their own spin on it. Imagine being that conceited. Imagine getting a chance to adapt a beloved story/franchise and being so full of yourself that you think you can do better than the original author. So instead of Goku being a Chinese hillbilly orphan, he's a teenager at Capsule Corp High School. Or Judge Dredd and Master Chief taking their helmets off at every opportunity. Or OC Donut Steel main characters like Cole Young in Mortal Kombat '21. These homosexual ass directors need to get their egos checked and shit kicked in. Who the frick wanted Amazon Prime presents Otto Bathurst's Halo? I sure as shit didn't. I wanted Halo. Just plane ol' Halo. All they had to do was turn the games and Nylund novels into live action cinematics. But NoooOOOoooOOOo. Making fans happy is [insert any "-ist"word here].
its not just autistic ranting, he offers a very realistic alternative that i also think would have been better.
it was how he asked. he deserved it
Why do you think so, OP?
Or you just repeating what you've heard?
But worst of all: it was rude
For diplomatic immunity.
Leonidas too in 300
What's funny is that IRL this was such a shameful act that the Spartans, in an effort to atone for it, sent 2 citizens many years later to the Persian king to offer themselves for execution but the king declined and said that letting them live with the shame was worse punishment.
Where you there?
>Confirmed communist Ethiopean Perseus/Persian, king Memnon propaganda glow troon.
>t. Ridley Scott
frick off boomer
Le Seething libshit who gets historical knowledge from obamas propaganda films
>lol, kek even
ridley please. go add more anachronisms to gladiator 2, I don't think the current amount will be enough. maybe give the barbarians zebras or something
Ill take it under advisement, im not promising you filthy degenerates anything
>This was a war crime.
It wasn't, but it destroy's Aragorn's image as a noble and honorable king. Tolkien would've disapproved.
I think it wasn't in the theatrical cut.
It wasn't, and it was cut for good reasons. Same as Gandalf vs the Witch King or Saruman's goofy ass death.
he was talking shit
you are now aware that the actor who played the mouth of sauron is the same actor who played the pilot in the Road Warrior
I watched the making of video and can never unhear his voice.
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cry about it
Ok then sanction him. With your army.
Down down down in goblin town