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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah hearing they were making Gorr the villain of this movie that was the final straw

    The fact it's supposedly a tonal mess isn't anywhere close to surprising

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Gorr is barely in it

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        What, is it just Ragnarok again? Where the main villain spends most of the movie sucking their thumb in a corner while Thor has to put up with some b***h?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >is it just Ragnarok again
          It's Ragnarok but dialed up

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >It's Ragnarok but dialed up
            most of the trailers and images I saw were just the two c**ts. this movie just seems like "thor's mighty feminist queer icons" instead of an actual thor movie

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Thor has to find himself. Again

              This is, what, the fourth fricking time?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Fifth I think

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              What trailers were you watching? Thor is in alost every scene in all the trailers.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >More scene ruining quips

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          To be fair Gorr never loses in a fight like Hela

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Hela didn't lose a fight until Surtr got pumped on on destiny.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Honestly, as bad as Ragnarok was, I actually enjoyed that part.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            She should have lost to Thor.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I wonder if he had more material but it was cut in favor of giving She-Thor more screentime

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Bale said a lot of his scenes were cut but I don't know why

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Probably because Portman forced them to

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Why does MCU keep fricking up its villains?
        I don't even like Gorr, I'm just in the camp of "a hero is only as good as their villain" and it's annoying to see so many villains who are either shit or mistreated by writers.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I have no interest in this movie and I'm sure it will be shit but I think it's important to note that Journos will be bitter that Jane dies and Thor continues to be Thor and will continue to be Thor in the future as per Hemsworth saying he doesn't want to stop so I don't know if I would trust their judgement. I'm not trying to get political I swear it's just they were hyping this up as some kind of social win and now they don't really get that.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Jane is taking over they said

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Confirmed spoilers dude she dies and she goes to Valhalla to rest while Thor lives. She is not taking over, she's not coming back. She's one and done.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          How is Valhalla real? Have they ever delved into why these guys are the Norse gods? I know they threw out a pity “they’re aliens” ten years ago but I’m not sure we’ve ever got an in movie explanation as to why Asgard is what it is in relation to earth

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, the comic it was based on, as bad as it eventually got, did establish the Asgardians were GODS, but Ragnarok made the normal Asgardians act like people.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              The MCU tie in comic or are you talking about the Thor comics?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The Aaron run this is based off of. He established gods exist as sort creating and being created by the thoughts of mortals.

                Gorr is mad because his gods were literal dicks who did nothing for his people.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >gods exist as sort creating and being created by the thoughts of mortals.
                This is a really cool way to do it, but literally everyone does it.
                I want a series where the Gods aren't aliens and they aren't thoughtforms - they're actual Gods.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Asgardians have been gods for way longer than that, Aaron didn't make it canon that they were genuine gods, they have been genuine gods for decades.

                >gods exist as sort creating and being created by the thoughts of mortals.
                This is a really cool way to do it, but literally everyone does it.
                I want a series where the Gods aren't aliens and they aren't thoughtforms - they're actual Gods.

                >I want a series where the Gods aren't aliens and they aren't thoughtforms - they're actual Gods.
                They ARE, but they're also thoughtforms. They're living paradoxes. The Elder gods of the universe aren't thoughtforms, but when they died, it was the strong beliefs of mortals all across the universe including humans, who created the thousands upon thousands of pantheons by shaping that genuine divine energy. But they didn't just shape them, their beliefs made it so that the gods always existed to begin with, so that they influenced the mortals beliefs to begin with, hence living paradoxes. It's why Odin was around hundreds of millions of years ago in some comics, and why he still claims to have created humanity. It's actually quite likely he did have some hand in creating Germanic people, and other pantheons created the other human races.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >They're living paradoxes
                actual cool concept
                Sadly too complicated for the average Marvel fan who needed explanations for Endgame's time travel afterwards

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Confirmed spoilers dude she dies and she goes to Valhalla to rest while Thor lives. She is not taking over, she's not coming back. She's one and done.

        Why do I think this will be enough for some people even if the rest of the film is shit?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I doubt it. But I do think if it is somehow good reviews will be very tainted because they don't get femThor forever. Also she doesn't seem to do that much as Thor. Hemsworth seems to have most of the action setpieces to himself with the exception of the final battle.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            They should have known that Natalie Portman is a c**t that was just going to do this once and frick off. Should have given the hammer to Kat Dennings.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I saw the youtube vid that had a couple clips of the movie, and it was literally just nonstop MArvel quips.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The trailer gave me cringe vibes. That nude scene. Cringe.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Tonal disaster how?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I mean Gorr's scenes in the comic were pretty grimdark, he's basically a god serial killer.

      Combining that with wacky australian silly times and I can see the tone whiplash.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Also a lot of Gorr's scenes were cut for intruding on the wacky theme

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, I doubt we'd have the outright horror scene of Gorr torturing Thor in the cave.

          Or the oh shit moment of Thor taking up the Necrosword and making Gorr into a crying b***h as he looms over him like Jason Vorhees.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >god serial killer
        I think it would have been funny to throw in some American Psycho references and themes to Gorr, considering it's Bale playing him. It wouldn't be faithful to the comics, but it would be less tonal whiplash and it'd be hot with the zoomers.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Imagine Gorr doing a Hip to Be Square scene with Zeus.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Not seeing it then.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Wow we’re watching the MCU die in real time

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You're not, it'll probably do great despite being a piece of shit.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        So does Star Wars. Does that mean the franchise is still good?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Star Wars being dumped to streaming isn't an indicator of the franchise doing well
          Disney is even struggling to get people in that moronic ass Star Wars hotel

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            To add context, Star Wars Clone Wars movie was released in theatres in 2008, the intention was to make big hit release after big hit release like how they released Rogue One and Solo inbetween mainline movie, two separate teams of creators under one umbrella. And now yeah it's streamed tv shows on a level below Ozark. Episode a week for 14 weeks is not the type of content the big names want, it's beneath big movie events, and the push for streaming over theaters is just cope from falling names.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            To add context, Star Wars Clone Wars movie was released in theatres in 2008, the intention was to make big hit release after big hit release like how they released Rogue One and Solo inbetween mainline movie, two separate teams of creators under one umbrella. And now yeah it's streamed tv shows on a level below Ozark. Episode a week for 14 weeks is not the type of content the big names want, it's beneath big movie events, and the push for streaming over theaters is just cope from falling names.

            >Star Wars being dumped to streaming isn't an indicator of the franchise doing well
            Cinemas are crap. Ultilities and rents are huge. They make frick all money and overcharge for food. So many people watch content at home now anyways. The context is completely different to how it was in the past. Streaming cuts out the middle man completely. They want more stuff than ever. They want everything to be like the MCU and make money and produce shit loads more content and having it exclusively on your subscription service. There is literally a streaming war going on right now.
            >like how they released Rogue One and Solo inbetween mainline movie
            Originally the plan was main movies + spin off movie to kind of replicate how Marvel was putting out multiple movies a year. TLJ and Solo had a backlash and the Executive speak blamed Star Wars fatigue even though the issue was TLJ was divisive and Solo had so many production issues and reshoots it needed a huge amount of money to break even. These shows were put on the backburner. So they wanted to build up slowly again. Mandalorian tested the waters, did well so they greenlit all these things to be shows now for that service. And now there is more talk of future SW movies again. Don't get me wrong, I hate modern SW and it isn't doing well and like you said, that hotel and the theme park mismanagement has been hilarious. But streaming is what everyone is going into now and isn't indicative of a bad franchise on its own. The franchise isn't doing well because despite big budgets or bringing actors back they write painfully bland stories that miss the mark. But for some people that is enough because bland but enjoyable stories just get them prepared for the next slop. And that is a perfect strategy for a subscription service.

            Why are critics turning on MCU movies now?

            Seen the writing on the wall and want to get ahead of the trend of hating it.

            There's been a lot of negative reactions since it was screened for film critics. Sounds like it might even get below 60 on RT. Imagine the seething.

            I suspect it'll be one of these things still liked by most audiences.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              The only thing that worked was the Mandalorian (and Kenndy still did her best to sabotage it) and yes, streaming works fine for movies under $100 million but anything above that, sorry, they really need theatres.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >The only thing that worked was the Mandalorian
                Mandalorian worked because of simple theme and simple episodes. Of course they fricked it up because they want to spin everything off of it.
                >but anything above that, sorry, they really need theatres.
                Maybe you misread my post, I am not saying that theatres are completely buried, they do need them to a large extent still, but the way you talk about streaming = a franchise not doing well feels kind of archaic because the landscape for entertainment has changed. That was the point I was making.

                SW isn't doing well because the producers at hand are under pressure to create another MCU but are missing the mark. I mean frick WB wants to fix its DC universe films and keeps fricking up, Sony keeps trying to do a Spider-Man universe (its first attempt failed- AMS2 and now it is trying again), Universal wanted a Dark Universe, Sony wanted a Ghostbuster universe. They can't find that formula that worked for the MCU and fit it to their universes without getting greedy or being divisive.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                What’s sad about Star Wars is that they had the easiest job in the world, this thing literally sells itself and they had to go and frick it up with The Last Jedi and more importantly by not taking the time to plan the sequel trilogy from the start.
                Things will get better if Kennedy goes but it probably won’t generate as much money from the start unless they go and promote the next movie as overwriting the sequel trilogy.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >taking the time to plan the sequel trilogy from the start.
                That's not really true. They had all the directors lined up from the start and scriptwriting/pre-production on TLJ overlapped production of TFA. Their real problems were not having a backup plan in place when Trevorrow didn't deliver on Episode 9's script and letting Johnson end TLJ in a way that pretty much required a reset button.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, if you are writing a trilogy to follow after something as important as Star Wars you well fricking plan the three movies well in advance, nothing about planning the sequel right while the first film is actively being produced and not yet finished. Trevorrow left because The Last Jedi script didn’t let him do anything and judging from Rise of Skywalker he wasn’t wrong. Who in their right fricking mind would accept The Last Jedi as a script let alone let Johnson do whatever the frick he pleases?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Disney is even struggling to get people in that moronic ass Star Wars hotel
            That's more because of the cost than anything

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              In general Galaxy's Edge has had a shit loads of problems. It opened with so few rides and new one taking ages to develop. They focused on the sequel period for contractual reasons which was also less popular than doing the OT or prequels. Combine the huge development cost and the huge prices. And this was even before covid or the cost of living crisis.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Who said anything about being good? You don't have to be good to be alive.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          "good" is subjective and the execs don't care about your opinion. If it profits it's good.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Nah it'll make billions, probably break all records, but ultimately be forgotten.

        Sure but this is how it starts. I said dying not completely dead. If the honeymoon phase is wearing off for journos it’s only a matter of time. A Marvel film was basically guaranteed to get AT LEAST 80% on RT. Externals was the first crack and this seems like the second.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          People have been saying that forever. I feel like Marvel will always be okay so long as they can trick enough people into hyping the next movie as it'll be better.
          I mean frick there was a whole bullshit video essay by a dude coping "Okay Phase 4 kind of sucks and nobody cares about any of the new people but....it's really gonna pay off when Secret Wars happens.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Transformers was basically this despite the awful reviews they get. It was only when they tries to change things with Age of Extinction that they started to actually bom .

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Anon, don't be stupid, absolutely no movie genre ever has stayed as the king of the hill forever and ever. Capeshit won't be different in that regard.

            [...]
            >Star Wars being dumped to streaming isn't an indicator of the franchise doing well
            Cinemas are crap. Ultilities and rents are huge. They make frick all money and overcharge for food. So many people watch content at home now anyways. The context is completely different to how it was in the past. Streaming cuts out the middle man completely. They want more stuff than ever. They want everything to be like the MCU and make money and produce shit loads more content and having it exclusively on your subscription service. There is literally a streaming war going on right now.
            >like how they released Rogue One and Solo inbetween mainline movie
            Originally the plan was main movies + spin off movie to kind of replicate how Marvel was putting out multiple movies a year. TLJ and Solo had a backlash and the Executive speak blamed Star Wars fatigue even though the issue was TLJ was divisive and Solo had so many production issues and reshoots it needed a huge amount of money to break even. These shows were put on the backburner. So they wanted to build up slowly again. Mandalorian tested the waters, did well so they greenlit all these things to be shows now for that service. And now there is more talk of future SW movies again. Don't get me wrong, I hate modern SW and it isn't doing well and like you said, that hotel and the theme park mismanagement has been hilarious. But streaming is what everyone is going into now and isn't indicative of a bad franchise on its own. The franchise isn't doing well because despite big budgets or bringing actors back they write painfully bland stories that miss the mark. But for some people that is enough because bland but enjoyable stories just get them prepared for the next slop. And that is a perfect strategy for a subscription service.

            [...]
            Seen the writing on the wall and want to get ahead of the trend of hating it.

            [...]
            I suspect it'll be one of these things still liked by most audiences.

            Streaming is fool's gold, companies are free to make their own numbers and even so Disney has to admit Disney Plus won't make a profit until 2024 at earliest.

            Why does MCU keep fricking up its villains?
            I don't even like Gorr, I'm just in the camp of "a hero is only as good as their villain" and it's annoying to see so many villains who are either shit or mistreated by writers.

            Disney in general has been fricking villains over for a long while now, the animated movies haven't had decent ones in a while, either.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >Streaming is fool's gold
              Of course it is. It is the latest gimmick they are rushing head first into. No where did I deny that. Simply saying that the landscape of entertainment has changed.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Okay Phase 4 kind of sucks and nobody cares about any of the new people but....it's really gonna pay off when Secret Wars happens.
            My favourite thing about this is that it's really only normies saying this and getting excited for Secret fricking Wars. I've not seen anyone on here who wants Secret Wars, and certainly not any time soon

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          You guys have been saying this since Age of Ultron. Everyone was saying the cracks were showing then and that it was only a matter of time before the MCU collapsed. Then we got Infinity War and Endgame becoming box office juggernaughts.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Nah it'll make billions, probably break all records, but ultimately be forgotten.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I love wacky dumb shit so I'll probably enjoy it.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    There's been a lot of negative reactions since it was screened for film critics. Sounds like it might even get below 60 on RT. Imagine the seething.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I honestly feel bad for hemsworth

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Why? Does anyone really expect the 4th movie in a series to be good? He still got paid.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe I just feel bad for Thor

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          It's disingenuous to split the movies when they don't stand on their own. This isn't a 4th entry; it's a 29th entry.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Even if you only count the movies Thor played an active role on theres still quite a bit.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Lmao don't. He's in the having fun with being a sellout stage of his career still. Sure he never cut it as a legitimate actor, he's getting paid like he's just a few steps down from Tom Cruise and Christian Bale instead of begging for scraps. He can say that he was a main character in a Ghostbusters movie and treat his job like a vacation with other charismatic people. Wait till he's down as a unwanted 50 year old before you start to kick him if he hasn't learned yet.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Motherfricker is almost universally praised as the one funny thing about Ghostbusters. A film made to showcase female comedians. And he is the best thing about it.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        He's a roider who plays the same character every time. I mean he is fine as a character actor but other than that, i don't really feel bad for millionaires

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Many will probably say it didn't do well because of "sexists" or something like that

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It doesn’t really work with Marvel movies, believe me, they tried. Eternals pretty much ensured that excuse will never work past Captain Marvel.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I have a feeling MCU fans are going the way of Snyder fans where it'll be:
        >Critics are all wrong but I liked it.
        >Critics are out of touch shills.
        Route.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Well, this movie just moved up to day 1 for me, then.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Gotta watch the shit show

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why are critics turning on MCU movies now?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Tbh ever since Black Widow, Marvel has been doing pretty moronic things that didn’t work in the comics and sure as hell won’t work with casual audiences. And then there’s Taskmaster.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      There was no reason to keep going after endgame

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Bland origin movies, divisive films and streaming shows. For every single film people have been waiting for the dam to burst; talking about superhero fatigue or how it is ruining cinema and people want to point somewhere and say "This is when it started, I was right!" If you keep saying it, one day you will be right.

      [...]
      >Star Wars being dumped to streaming isn't an indicator of the franchise doing well
      Cinemas are crap. Ultilities and rents are huge. They make frick all money and overcharge for food. So many people watch content at home now anyways. The context is completely different to how it was in the past. Streaming cuts out the middle man completely. They want more stuff than ever. They want everything to be like the MCU and make money and produce shit loads more content and having it exclusively on your subscription service. There is literally a streaming war going on right now.
      >like how they released Rogue One and Solo inbetween mainline movie
      Originally the plan was main movies + spin off movie to kind of replicate how Marvel was putting out multiple movies a year. TLJ and Solo had a backlash and the Executive speak blamed Star Wars fatigue even though the issue was TLJ was divisive and Solo had so many production issues and reshoots it needed a huge amount of money to break even. These shows were put on the backburner. So they wanted to build up slowly again. Mandalorian tested the waters, did well so they greenlit all these things to be shows now for that service. And now there is more talk of future SW movies again. Don't get me wrong, I hate modern SW and it isn't doing well and like you said, that hotel and the theme park mismanagement has been hilarious. But streaming is what everyone is going into now and isn't indicative of a bad franchise on its own. The franchise isn't doing well because despite big budgets or bringing actors back they write painfully bland stories that miss the mark. But for some people that is enough because bland but enjoyable stories just get them prepared for the next slop. And that is a perfect strategy for a subscription service.

      [...]
      Seen the writing on the wall and want to get ahead of the trend of hating it.

      [...]
      I suspect it'll be one of these things still liked by most audiences.

      >Seen the writing on the wall and want to get ahead of the trend of hating it.
      This.

      Why does MCU keep fricking up its villains?
      I don't even like Gorr, I'm just in the camp of "a hero is only as good as their villain" and it's annoying to see so many villains who are either shit or mistreated by writers.

      >Why does MCU keep fricking up its villains?
      Because Marvel films suffer painfully with villain shorthand as in, they don't want to devote huge parts of the movies to the villains and their motivations. Often villains end up connected to the heroes because it is easy to explain why they hate them. Their formulas often rely more on hero characterisation e.g. does anyone care about Iron Man villains? No, they like RDJ as Iron Man.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Disney has been bleeding money since covid, they can't afford to pay them off anymore.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        If Marvel and Star Wars start to get wobbly, what does Disney even do? They've taken hits over and over, AND they've managed to get half the country pissed off at them for political reasons.

        Kind of seems like these days the House of Mouse is in a precarious position, on multiple fronts.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They're feeling the fatigue of having to keep up with 6 shows and 4 films a year

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Because none of it "matters" anymore. Before it was all building towards something and now it isn't. What was the point of Wandavision when she learnt nothing and so Dr Strange happened?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Why the frick did they think that Bendis Scarlet Witch was the thing they should adapt into movies? People have been b***hing about that for ages and lo and behold, it’s like Avengers Disassembled all over again.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Because all this shit now feels made by algorithms. House of M is widely known because every click bait site mentions it with every Scarlet Witch post. And then people go onto Youtube and watch a video about House of M or read a wiki (far more than actually read an actual comic).

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I'm assuming Civil War and NWH being a success went to their heads and they thought they could "salvage" it the same way.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Avengers Disassembled is "Avengers are lame and need Spider-Man, Wolverine, and all my childhood favorites showing up so I'll make Scarlet Witch evil and insane to kill off all those loser Avengers." There is nothing fundamentally there because it's a mean-spirited bloodbath done for shock value, plus CA:CW is basically MCU Avengers Disassembled. House of M isn't even a Wanda story. It's a Wolverine story.

            In general Galaxy's Edge has had a shit loads of problems. It opened with so few rides and new one taking ages to develop. They focused on the sequel period for contractual reasons which was also less popular than doing the OT or prequels. Combine the huge development cost and the huge prices. And this was even before covid or the cost of living crisis.

            I can't really complain about Galaxy's Edge too much considering I love Dinoland, USA and that place is basically fricking nothing, but there is zero reason why a place that small has five gift shops. GE needs a layout overhaul; with the stunt show removed all of that space is wasted, the stage show area is a large amount of empty space (admittedly it's also used for excess queue capacity), they need to add more seating to the cantina, and add in some non E-ticket attraction.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I dunno, but they're going to keep adapting Bendis shit anyway

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      People want xmen and everything feels like filler until then

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Even the shills aren't shameless enough to praise their products despite how absolutely bottom-of-the-barrel they've gotten.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >twitter thread

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why should I ever care about the opinion of a critic though?

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    https://twitter.com/HollywoodInToto
    >contributor to Daily Wire

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Kino incoming.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This is all on Feige.
    Too much shit on his plate.
    Seems to be letting the movie directors be auteurs in this phase instead of reigning them in like before.
    He's letting them make big swings and be more risky because he needs a breakout hero or team out of these intentionally WOKE c to d listers.
    So far only Shang Chi was the only one that sort of caught on.
    Other than Loki (pre WOKE character) his MCU streaming side is in pure shambles.
    Everyone has went after how bad Ms Marvel is currently doing but Moon Knight actually did worse and they're burying that fact under the rug.
    She-Hulk could be the next breakout hit though depending on how good the episodes are.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Hawkeye was a good show. It’s an Ant-Man situation, low box office but good characters with potential.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You think Shang Chi caught on?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It didn’t but it’s the best Phase 4 film so far outside if No Way Home and that one is carried by Sony stuff so it doesn’t count as much.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >She-Hulk could be the next breakout hit though depending on how good the episodes are.

      Don't get your hopes up

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Who is Christian Toto?

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Ragnarok was a tonal disaster too and everyone but me seems to love it. Even from the trailers you can feel the tonal whiplash.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Man of Steel was a tonal disaster. Ragnarok was finally getting the tone right after the first 2 Thor movies. Fite me.
      The world does not want "Serious Norse Adventures". Don't believe me? Check the Norseman's box office again chudmeisters.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Lack of black supporting characters did Norseman in. It's too white for the current world.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Nah, if people want to see white people savagely killing other white people for raisins, they can turn on the nightly news. People don't want that bleak shit in their movies.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Thor and Thor 2 were good you moronic history revisionist.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Thor was boring in the first two movies. Hiddleston salvaged both of them.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Nah. He was based.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I refuse to let anyone do Thor 2 revisionism. Nothing about it is memorable. Worst MCU film by a country mile.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            It isn’t nearly as bad as it’s made to be. Normies certainly weren’t upset.
            Worst MCU films are Age of Ultron and MCU Spidey solo movies. And I’d say Eternals but that may very well stop being canon soon.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >And I’d say Eternals but that may very well stop being canon soon.
              Yeah it's so bad it's not canon. That's a great way for the MCU not to have a bad film and people like you will go along with rhat

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >Normies certainly weren’t upset.
              only because it came out before the MCU became the cultural juggernaut it is today.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, it came after Avengers and did quite well.

                >And I’d say Eternals but that may very well stop being canon soon.
                Yeah it's so bad it's not canon. That's a great way for the MCU not to have a bad film and people like you will go along with rhat

                It’s for the best if they make it not canon, it’s fricks up their own universe so hard.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Check the Norseman's box office again chudmeisters.
        Norseman's issue isn't serious Norse adventures don't work, it is that it is a niche arty movie with too high a budget. You could make a serious Norse revenge movie with the same budget and have it be successful if it was full of action.

        Ragnarok was a tonal disaster too and everyone but me seems to love it. Even from the trailers you can feel the tonal whiplash.

        The first Thor looks weird compared to the other Phase 1 films. The wide shots and dutch angles. Kenneth Branagh wanted it to be like a Shakespearean melodrama. Dark World was just bland because it had some of the worst excesses of modern Marvel, the side characters were bad, the villain's stories was mostly cut and it was just bad. Ragnorak needed a different tone but went too far in the opposite direction.

        I partly feel like Thor got some of the worst of it in in terms of production. Like the Sif actress got injured and was basically written out. Warriors Three were nobodies and killed off. So much good stuff that added depth was constantly cut out.

        Thor and Thor 2 were good you moronic history revisionist.

        Thor The Dark World was kinda bland. Christopher Ecclestone complained a lot of his scenes were cut. Like a scene where Odin's father kills Malekith's family.

        Kat Dennings whole character was fricking attrocious in that film.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >First third of the movie between Earth and Asgard doing frick all but letting Odin poof away to introduce Hela from out the movie's butthole
        >Hopping between Planet Hulk to gather up all the new characters Director Kiwi wanted, and Asgard so that he can begin culling the old cast he doesn't
        >All while undercutting serious moments with ill timed jokes and jamming in maudlin shit for unearned character arcs
        Nah it's a mess

        Thor and Thor 2 were good you moronic history revisionist.

        Thor 1 was okay, Thor 2 was boring as frick

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        That's a lot of words to say "I am moronic"

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Just came here to say Frick what they did to the Warriors 3.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      didn't hela kill them?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Why did they waste Ray Stevenson so badly? He deserves better.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Wasn't Volstagg to be fat as frick?

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Thor 1: meaningless, stake-less CGI battles, terrible romance, everyone in plastic-looking toy armor except Thor and Odin, Hiddleston is the only reason to watch it.

    Thor 2: Villains never fleshed out enough to make anyone care, stupid comedy side-kicks, more shitty romance, final battle is a slight improvement.

    Ragnarok: Odin is offed as actor is tired of this shit. Characters the audience does not care about die off (pissing off Thor nerds). Better villain with at least a modicum of motive, better CGI, romance is ditched for bromance, Hulk vs Thor, humor is very hit-or-miss.

    All-in-all the superior movie.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      the dogshit with fewer flies around it is still dogshit

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        What an utterly worthless opinion. It's like fortune-cookie sayings from a microcephalic.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Actor literally fleeing the movie
      >Writer lazily culls characters they don't want
      >Villain's motive is literally "I want to kill the universe because it's what I want" which is the same exact as the last.
      >CGI isn't as old as the last movies, but will probably age just as poorly
      >Bromance with new annoying comedy sidekicks
      >Hulk vs Thor, a joke that was finished in Avengers 1 and is just stale now
      >Humor is more miss than hit
      All in All it's just Guardians of the Galaxy: Thor Edition

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >All in All it's just Guardians of the Galaxy: Thor Edition
        Yes, that was the point, make Thor more similar to the immensely marketable GotG franchise, THEN team him up with them.
        I mean it's jarring because Thor has NEVER had weird adventures in outer space ever, but it works.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >pissing off thor nerds
      I'm pretty comics casul(read maybe a few thousand issues, didn't collect comics growing up) and even I dropped mcu by 2015. anyone who cares about the original lore stopped paying attention to that tire fire.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yes we know, these threads are always 90% populated by people who don't care about the MCU and don't watch the movies anymore.
        Every single time. Next MCU thread, I'll just take it as a given that you don't care about the MCU.

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    So is there anything Gay in this movie?

    Did they make Jane and Valkyrie lesbians like Twitter was telling me they would be?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Has Twitter EVER steered you wrong??

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Idk. They put gays in Lightyear and Baymax so I'm just wondering if Marvel is allowing gays now?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Eternals had gay on gay kissing full at center.
          Honestly black fat gay was more likable than most of the cast so of course he is the next to last to join.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Apparently Korg has a daughter with another man, but that is comic accurate
      Also Valkyrie is bisexual, but i doubt it will be addressed in the film, she's looking for her "queen" but from what i heard that plot doesn't go anywhere

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why can't these movies just make an actual fun adventure? Thor movies have to constantly imply that fun adventuring happened between movies instead of showing it.

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    So a critic says it's bad? That means it's KINO AF.
    Never listen to critics, enjoy what you want.

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    So uuhh.... who destroyed the planet in the trailer and why?
    i guess it was jane or thor for the electricity, but why would a hero destroy a planet?

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I fricking hate ''Marvel humor''
    despite Whedon being bad icky man they sure love to copy and paste his style of humor all the time with the random one liners and quips.
    I think Thor has it the worst, since the entire character is a joke now cause people think the first 2 movies were super serious all the time or some shit and Endgame/Ragnarok making him full goofball is too much especially Fat Thor just what were they thinking

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It’s impressive though, the only movies that have come close to imitating Whedon’s craptastic humor are the solo Spider-Man movies, everyone else can’t tell jokes or write dialogue as bad as he does it. It’s astounding.

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    That's a great compliment.

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    REACTION TO THOR 4 IN A NUTSHELL, written by Mel Brooks

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Christian Toto

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This shit depresses me. Thor 4 is the MCU movie I've been looking forward to the most for a long time. Thor is my favorite Marvel character and a movie about Gorr the God Butcher, and other gods from other pantheons had me so excited. The first trailers made me really excited, so it sucks reading all this shit about the comedy being too much, and Gorr barely being in it, and having an anti-climatic ending.

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Casual fans and dumb Americans loved the LOL SILLY KIWIS BREW shit in Ragnarok - will this go over similarly well considering critics are just saying it's Ragnarok 2.0?

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >way more Batman and Robin
    Based. Campkino.

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >it will be a gay flop but Cinemaphile will love it 20 years later
    MARVEL ALWAYS WINS

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I liked Batman and Robin

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Old Cinemaphile movie criticism
    >A BAT CREDIT CARD AHHHHHH
    Nu Cinemaphile movie criticism
    >Zero stars cause I saw a gay person, I hope the Taliban buys Disney. Please like fave and subscribe to the WOKE WATCH and subscribe to my official WOKE WATCH testosterone supplements and donate to our Patreon and Substack and my divorce GoFundMe

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      "muh bat credit card" was always reddit garbage.
      >oh no, something silly happens in a movie that makes it clear it's not taking itself seriously since the very first minutes, look how smart I am for mocking that
      B&R is shit, but Nostalgia homosexual-tier "criticism" is even worse.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The issue isn't that Bat Credit Card is a joke, it's that it's a bad joke.
        What is supposed to be funny about it? It's just a lolsorandom bit that lasts a second, it's not a punchline (at least not a witty one) or sets one, it's just a rando thing that happens.
        The only tiny bit about it is the 'Forever' callback and you can miss that easily in a blink.
        At least Arnold's ice puns are sorta funny as a lame running gag, like Freeze is trying to pull boomer humor.

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I watched the movie for the magazine I work for. It’s...something and I definitely think there will be a lot of criticism.

    1) Jane does die after giving up being Thor, Hemsworth is 100% full force back at the end. Feel like people will shit on this just because female Thor was just a plot point.

    2) Gorr was a horrible villain, just fricking what were they thinking. Especially his change of heart.

    3) This movie felt like Ragnarok except directed by Uwe Boll. That’s my most accurate description.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Are the jokes really as bad as some critics are saying?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        They are standard MCU quipfest but there is simply a ridiculous amount of them. Almost every second sentence is a quip, aside Gorr scenes. Reminded me a bit of that Johnny Test cartoon and that is NOT a good thing.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Reminded me a bit of that Johnny Test cartoon and that is NOT a good thing.
          Jesus, that's pretty bad

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            *whipcrack*

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >sweaty
        >pits

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Gorr was a horrible villain, just fricking what were they thinking
      The same they did about Raimi. Take someone who worked in a successful non- MCU cape movie and waste him like this.

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Thor 1 was a little slow but at least took itself seriously. When the frick did Thor become the whacky comedy semi loser of the MCU?

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    so a bendis comic but live action? got it.

  38. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >they cut all the Valkyrie gay shit out of the movie
    lmao i remember when they couldn't stop talking about it in 2019.

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