they were pretty much in nonstop crisis mode. No time to grieve, especially for what is pretty much a stranger that was just standing there like he wanted to die.
I still don't know why people make fun of with this line. Before I watched the movie, some normie friend told me about this line and I was confused because I did not know the context but it was supposed to be really stupid and silly. I watched the movie and that line did not stand out to me than any other line. It was appropriate in the moment and all I thought was "that's it?".
This movie is great because Nolan is a good emotional director. There's obvious nonsense that makes it less scientifically accurate than 2001 but it's still up there with its demonstrations of black holes and time dilation. I like this fills even if Cinemaphile is needlessly contraction about it
>Literally several years into the future >Orbiting a water-planet that has such a strong gravity time is affected to a massive scale >Not a single scientist thought to think about the gravity's effect on the tide, even though it's a common concept even on Earth with Moon's puny gravity >Not to mention they probably orbited the planet for a couple of days and could've easily detected the waves on either scans or with their naked eyes
You fricking moron. They actually hired physicists to do the gravity calculations to get the time dilation correctly because Nolan is autistic and wanted it to be 7 years per hour.
>hired professional fanfic writers and still fricked it up
it's almost like the whole concept of space and planets is fricking moronic and impossible...
I believe in space but this image is correct. 80% of physics is fake and gay and 100% of the crazy pop science articles you see about the multiverse or quantum mechanic weird shit or anything involving theoretical physics or quantum mechanics is fake
They literally just make an absurd suggestion, do a million tests and move things untill it works out mathematically then they claim it’s a fact or could be a fact.
A space wizard did it to enslave humanity 700 years ago. All the references to the moon in history are actually fake and history is all fake. You been tricked son. Smoke crack rock in u wanna learn more boyo
this, if one second on the water planet was equal to a day on earth, the surface would look like it was basically stationary if viewed from outside the range of time dilation
You'd think nerds would have thought about it for days or weeks considering they knew a trip to the surface would cost years of Earth time. However...
Since love is the strongest universal force, everything turns out all right in the end. Can't you feel it?
The worst part was how she nearly destroyed the entire mission to get "the data." What fricking data? There were waves the size of mountains, there was no hope, and even if there was, as they said due to the time dilation the other party had only been gone a couple hours since they got there, they would have gathered the exact same "data."
this
if you want to argue that the blackhole caused it, it would be more like a rising tide and less like a wave
unless they were on a plateau with a 20,000ft dropoff right beyond their landing craft that wave is totally impossible.
ok so, there's a finite amount of water on the planet right?
waves are made of water.
so if you have a big wave, that means a lot of the available water is in that wave instead of on the ground.
if there weren't massive waves all over the planet then the water would be more evenly distributed and it would probably be as deep as a typical ocean.
Drag and pull man. The water is being pulled into the wave so any other water will be lightly dispersed across the planet. If waves did that on earth then you would be able to stand in knee deep oceans until the rotation came around again..
Don't usually go autistic but it bothered me how much science went into the black hole VFX and stuff like no sound in space only for the main plot points to be utterly fantastical. All just to look cool.
Why don't they have probes for the planets?
How are they standing in two feet of water?
If the tidal forces are that intense, why isn't the ground below them a furnace of Yellowstone geysers and volcanic eruptions?
Why does the time dilate so much on the surface of the planet relative to the spaceship when both are of relatively similar distance to the black hole?
Why does the black hole have such a steep gravity gradient so far out when clearly it is a very massive black hole with very gradual gravitational forces such that Cooper avoids being spagettified?
It would have been trivial to rework these set pieces to be more physically plausible.
>Why don't they have probes for the planets?
nolan >How are they standing in two feet of water?
is >If the tidal forces are that intense, why isn't the ground below them a furnace of Yellowstone geysers and volcanic eruptions?
a >Why does the time dilate so much on the surface of the planet relative to the spaceship when both are of relatively similar distance to the black hole?
hack >Why does the black hole have such a steep gravity gradient so far out when clearly it is a very massive black hole with very gradual gravitational forces such that Cooper avoids being spagettified?
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>Why don't they have probes for the planets?
They did, that's what the pioneer astronauts were for. >Why does the time dilate so much on the surface of the planet relative to the spaceship
The planet is imagined to exist right at the point where the gravity of the black hole starts to have extreme effects. The spaceship stays outside of that point, orbiting the black hole, not the planet. They give you a very simple diagram in the film, one of those moments people apparently have such a problem with because it's "too much exposition".
I think they did explain the probe thing. I completely forgot what they said. Obvioualy they could communicate through the black hole, so that wasn't the reason. Who knows?
They could communicate inside of the black hole. Time and space are theorized to swap inside of a black hole. He mentions it and its shown as a tesseract.
The film sucks. It’s so bad I can’t believe anyone likes it.
Also, time dilation doesn’t work like that if the spaceship is orbiting a planet. The guy on the ship would age the same amount as the people on the planet.
Also, why didn’t their spaceship require an insane amount of fuel to leave the water planet which supposedly had super-high gravity?
>if the spaceship is orbiting a planet
Because it was not you crayon muncher. it was orbiting the black ho. They even pointed that out in their dialogue but in your nitpicky need to be the eternal contrarian you failed to notice that.
Really, of all the things to attack it with, the "love is the stronkest force in the universe" subplot is worthy of getting ridiculed.
That doesn’t make any fricking sense. Imagine a Spaceship landing on Mars, but then the Main ship (in orbit) decides to orbit THE SUN instead of Mars.
This film is a dumb meme.
If they orbited the planet they would go closer to the black hole and be affected even more ya goof. If they orbit the black hole they dont need to spend the extra fuel to get away from it when they leave or maintain orbit since they wouldn't be closer. Did you even watch the movie or are you just dumb and don't understand basic things?
But that love shit is just a line some dumb woman says when she misses her boyfriend. You didn't believe her, did you. They never use or observe love to be a force, so why do you believe a dumb roasty just saying random shit?
They were closer on the planet so more affected by the time dilation where as the ship was orbiting the black hole therefore further away. When you get that close every bit of distance is a big deal. Getting off the planet isn't a big deal because its own gravity wasn't strong and its the single ship. Having their main ship maintain orbit around the planet itself for the amount of time they thought theyd spend there was the main issue and why they decided to orbit the black hole to save the fuel. Also its a movie but thats the gist.
>not understanding how orbit works
If you are orbiting a small planet with low gravity and you go closer to the black hole on part of your orbit, to maintain orbit you will need to use some fuel. If you just do a bigass loop around the black hole you can just make the minor corrections and stay in orbit without having to do a bunch of them over the long time they'd be staying there.
If a planet was that close to a black hole, the entire planet would be wobbling and the core would be stretched/compressed constantly, and there wouldn’t just be a tidal wave but massive volcanos and earthquakes, the planet would be pulled apart by gravity. The planet probably would have its entire atmosphere stripped away from the solar wind/accretion disk of the black holes The ship “orbiting” the black hole Gargantuan doesn’t make any sense either.
In the Milky Way galaxy alone, there are about 400,000,000,000 stars, each with several planets. Traveling to ANOTHER galaxy to find a habitable planet makes zero sense.
Yeah but the whole reason they did that was because of the wormhole that opened. The planet wasn't close enough (in the movie) to experience the extent of the stuff you're talking about.
Nolan pretty much exhausted all his ideas relating to thematic and character writing with inception and the batman movies. Interstellar has the depth of a puddle and Tenet, well...
At least this one is more honest and hasn't seen the movie. Half the people here prob just repeat what other people say or go off of YouTube videos for their opinions.
How do you guys think she reacted when Cooper came to her and told her that their whole mission was pointless because his daughter invented anti-gravity?
anti-gravity being invented by the time Cooper went back is irrelevant because he was the one who gave Murph the formula for doing so
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The effects of his actions "inside" the black hole were present before he went on the mission which means that she would've received the message and solved the formula in any case unless you believe in some moronic parallel timeline shit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
you're the one that believes in moronic parallel timeline shit because how could she receive the message if Cooper didn't send it?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I am not the one who wrote this stupid-ass movie, lmao.
2 years ago
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>The effects of his actions "inside" the black hole were present before he went on the mission
No they weren't. He only moved a few books before he left, he sends the data to the clock AFTER he leaves, it's right there in the fricking movie you zoomer tard. If he had never left he would have never been able to send the data
2 years ago
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>No they weren't. He only moved a few books before he left
Don't reply to me ever again if you can't even write two sentences without contradicting yourself.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You fricking moron, him pushing a few books meant nothing. He NEEDED to leave Earth so his other self realizes how to transmit the data, otherwise everything would explode because of the paradox and the implication.
2 years ago
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>otherwise everything would explode because of the paradox and the implication.
That's your moronic head-canon.
2 years ago
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You're black aren't you
2 years ago
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Not that anon but he’s right if you think about it. Why else would he have to sit there and study the dust lines to figure out they’re coordinates? The only logical answer is they are two versions of the same person
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>The effects of his actions "inside" the black hole were present before he went on the mission which means that she would've received the message and solved the formula in any case unless you believe in some moronic parallel timeline shit.
would she be long dead by the time he got there?
would her data be responsible for the machine cooper goes into and his love guides him to his daughter?
That’s another thing, the film doesn’t even explain how humanity was able to build 60+ O’Neil Cylinders within a few decades, totally dismantling the entire planet Earth as they did it.
we can already build smaller ones if we wanted to, if earth is about to die i find it plausible everyone agrees to spend all of humanities resources and manpower into building 60 big ones, even more so with antigravity
>if earth is about to die i find it plausible everyone agrees to spend all of humanities resources and manpower into building 60 big ones
lmao no, you'd get half the American population screaming about how it's a israeli conspiracy theory.
This is true but you'd still be evaporated by Hawking radiation before crossing the horizon. >From a distant observer's point of view, you are slowing down as you fall toward the horizon, taking an infinity of time to reach it >Eventually, far in the future but still after a finite length of time, the Black hole evaporates with Coop having never fallen past the horizon >Coop is dismantled by a massive blast of Hawking radiation as the hole finishes evaporating
Nothing gets past the horizon alive, not even for supermassive Black holes.
The bigger the black hole, the more gravity it has and thus it would rip you apart and turn you into a stream of atoms anyways. That’s why all super massive black holes have an insanely bright accretion disk full of plasma-hot matter spooning around it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ton_618
If Kip Thorne tries to explain it any other way, then it becomes pseudoscience with no basis in reality.
Incorrect, if you double the mass, the Schwarzschild radius doubles but the tidal force at the new event horizon will be half of the original. For a supermassive black hole, the distance at which you will be spaghettified lies inside the event horizon.
Exactly, so either way if you enter a black hole, you die.
You’d also be ripped to shreds by the super hot plasma/matter circling the black hole in the accretion disk.
Nolan is a moron, because he thinks that the accretion disk is just light, not matter/radiation.
Even if you didn't you'd also orbit for an insane amount of time before even "entering" but its a movie and its cool. Why do people get a stick up their butt about this stuff?
2 years ago
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I hate fake science films that parade themselves as being realistic and “backed by science”. Kip Thorne is a hack.
2 years ago
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Exactly. Isn’t it basically impossible to “enter” a black hole even if you’re going as fast as the speed of light? Then there’s this: https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1191121/black-hole-news-time-travel-milky-way-space-discovery-supermassive-black-holes-sagittarius
And that’s the reason why so little of Interstellar makes sense. They basically tried to make things make sense as a single scene (or frame), but when you out it all together in a film everything collapses and breaks down.
2 years ago
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That’s why it’s called science fiction, you absolute fricktard
2 years ago
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I agree with you, Kip Thorne is an absolute fricktard
2 years ago
Anonymous
That book shows Nolan actually wasn't into the science that much and Thorne had to relent on a lot of ideas to allow the movie to finally get bankrolled.
it doesnt matter when observer watching person dropping into a black hole would have to wait infinite amount of time for it to happen because of time dilation. Even if he survived the universe outside would be totally different by then.
>It's a shit movie because spaghettification didn't occur >Future people can easily manipulate time and space >Cant make a safe passage for a ship that avoids sphagettification
Are you moronic?
Proof? Why did things in the past happen in the past, why can’t I go to the Roman Empire today, why do people get old and objects age, and don’t tell me you buy into the “duuude it’s on another spatial dimension right now maaan” literally 0 proof. time is objective and linear
First time I watched the movie, I thought Cooper has left the station to fetch Hathaway. Rewatched it recently and he's clearly going there to die with her on that rock. Really rubbed me the wrong way.
There was no need for that "restarting the human race" bullshit anymore. Yet Cooper throws his and her life away, going to live on that uninhabited island. Because he's "an explorer". I can't help but feel sad for him.
>"Time dilation is really bad!" >don't send unmanned probes to the dangerous planets, send people instead >"Now you need to go retrieve the people... Because you just have to!"
Incredibly hackneyed plot. It would have been better for the planets to be totally unexplored instead of trying to find a way to work in Matt Damon.
Like he told Cooper, he never really considered the possibility that he would just wind up stranded on a dead planet and left to die so when that became reality he couldn't deal and his only way out was to subvert the mission to save humanity to save himself instead. And he had no way to know if that was even going to work.
So after realizing he'd thrown his life away on a futile mission to nowhere and committing an act of gross (if understandable) cowardice by sending that false date, he goes into hypersleep knowing if no one comes he dies in there. Dude suffered a kind of ego death and then embraced his real death. He was perma-shook. Everything that happened after he woke up was probably like a kind of unreality to him and what he was trying to do was re-attempt his solo mission but successfully this time. He was like a zombified version of himself
Good post. Another irony to this is how Coop subconsciously tries to subvert the mission even when he’s made it all the way into the tesseract. When he’s crying and telling Murph to not let him go. He still hasn’t realized he’s about to complete the mission and is willing to damn all of humanity just for more time with his daughter. Shit is totally cash.
bruh the earth is literally flat and there's a big dome above us/ just go outside at night and you can literally see it. science is all made up bullshit.
Since the massive waves on Miller's planet come in ~1 hour intervals, Dr. Miller had to literally have sent her data within minutes of landing. Because if she knew of the massive waves there is no way she would have sent that. So she landed, gathered data, and sent it out saying it was habitable all in less than an hour.
it was a great scene. i thought the film as a whole is a big cringy and specially the ending, it was moronic and the level of emotional manipulation and the music jumped the shark by a lot, but the wave scene was very well done, looked fantastic, it was very suspensful and tight and so on
In my opinion, yes. This movie is similar to Oblivion for me, where if you look closely the plot holes start to reveal themselves but if you're willing to accept the premise then it's extremely enjoyable
>we liked the film overall, right?
No, it was capeshit wrapped in pseudoscience. It’s one of the worst, dumbest and definitely most bombastic movies I’ve ever seen.
Nolan wanted the science to be accurate so he brought lots of scientists and physicists to advise him but he told them he didn't want science to get in the way of story. So the science on display is ***technically*** accurate but the way it's presented in the film is inaccurate because he couldn't write a story to accommodate it. He threw away science to make a heartwarming story about a father and daughter.
There are parts of the movie that just get space wrong but there are also A LOT of plot points that people seem to completely ignore which explicitly explain why things happen.
It's like people who complain about Anne Hatheway's line about love spanning time and space when that is literally the theme of the movie and how Cooper manages to save the human race
>virgins on a cambodian foraging board do not understand how the movie repeatedly decries isolation and personal sacrifice over collaboration and deep connections as ways to advance society
Of all the planets they went to, they decided NOT to go to a Super Earth that probably has dinosaurs and other tasty animals on it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetary_habitability
That's because space travel is slow and boring. Every movie that tries to do that accurately has to have something frick up along the way to make a story out of.
I love the movie, but one thing bothers me.
They leave Earth with a multistage rocket launch (to my understanding).
Then, to leave the water planet, they use a more sci-fi engines of the small ship...
The gravity of the water planet isn't crazy but its being affected by the gravity of the black hole. Like our tides are affected by the moon but to an insane extent. The multi stage rocket is because its leaving earth and carrying their space station type ship and the multiple ships and all their supplies and fuel, not just a single shuttle type ship.
I liked Interstellar a lot, seeing it IMAX was pretty special though deafening.
I will say this >Be elite scientist astronauts >Need to demonstrate the idea of wormholes with pencil and folding paper
Just fricking really?
Obviously for the audience. Notice how here even with bones thrown to the audience to help explain it people aren't even getting the idea of a basic orbit.
Obviously for the audience. Notice how here even with bones thrown to the audience to help explain it people aren't even getting the idea of a basic orbit.
I know it's for the audience but it's still very dumb and jarring to me. Maybe make the dialogue more casual, and use your hands instead like >You know how wormholes supposedly connect through folded space right? Well what if we...
And not have it be sci fi 101 break the tempo type lesson
So the main plan of NASA is to build massive space habitats on Earth and launch them into space with gravity magic, right? That's why they want Cooper to get the black hole formula, because of the gravity problem.
What I don't understand is, why was it necessary to launch them into space? If they already had the technology to create self-sufficient, hermetically sealed artificial environments that would survive the rigours of space, wouldn't they be just as effective on Earth even after all the plants outside died for no reason?
Yeah i dont really get that part.
It seems it would be easier to "just fix the food problem" than to completely ditch earth.
Like some sealed seaweed algae shit in a glass bubble.
They probably needed to cull all the brown people so it gave them an excuse. They'll hang out in space for a while and then come back and rebuild. After all, anti gravity and building a self sustaining space station is easier than dealing with brown people.
Exactly. It would’ve been way cheaper to just enclose farmland in glass, instead of tearing up the entire planet to creat O’Neil cylinders that probably cost 1 Quadrillion dollars each.
Yeah i dont really get that part.
It seems it would be easier to "just fix the food problem" than to completely ditch earth.
Like some sealed seaweed algae shit in a glass bubble.
Exactly. It would’ve been way cheaper to just enclose farmland in glass, instead of tearing up the entire planet to creat O’Neil cylinders that probably cost 1 Quadrillion dollars each.
1) Food availability wasn't the only problem, the atmosphere shifting towards less oxygen and more C02 would render the planet uninhabitable. Terrariums might have produced enough food to keep everybody alive for a while but not enough oxygen. "The last people to starve will be the first to suffocate," remember?
2) The habitats are temporary. The idea was always to find another habitable planet and the off-planet stations are incremental steps towards that. Again, this is something the movie explicitly stats when old Murph Refers to Brand setting up camp on "our new Home." Like, what did you think, that even though they actually found a suitable replacement for earth and figured out how to get everybody off-world and Brand was already there setting up colonies they would just be like "nah, we're cool, the entire human population will just live forever on this satellite which is 1/10,000th the size of the planet we abandoned and cannot sustain an increase in population"
If you guys are going to nitpick the plot of movie maybe you should try following the plot first so you're not brining up problems that were already explicitly addressed by the script. It's not Nolan's fault you have add
1. If the atmosphere was shifting to "more CO2", then that would've solved the food issue because CO2 is plant food, and more plants would've grown, thus creating more oxygen. During the time of the dinosaurs, CO2 was something like 900ppm. Nolan doesn't know shit about science. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1342937X13003043
2. So what? If they were going to use the O'Neil Cylinders as temporary shelters, they wouldn't need to find a planet hundreds of billions of miles away. They'd just have to terraform Mars or Venus (Venus would take longer).
My biggest grinding gear with the fricking movie, is that we have RIGHT NOW probes to go to other planets, and even then in the movie they also have probes to go to other galaxies
Why the FRICK do they need to go to each planet to check with their fricking eyes
I'm talking about the initial expedition, but later Cooper party ALSO does this
The Black person spent like 20 years alone on the ship wouldn't it be better to dispatch a probe, like right fricking there?
Fricking christ it makes me mad
Agreed, they could've sent out dozens of probes through the wormhole and found several good planets much more quickly. Especially since we later see that the "mission" wasn't urgent at all, and people were still alive on Earth for another 30-40 years (or whatever) until they started building O'Neil Cylinders (which would've taken another 100 years so I'm not even sure how Murph is alive/dying at the end of the film).
>curvature is so insane the time is like 10000x dilated on the planet >they just land there and walk around instead of getting instantly killed by absolutely insane forces
To troll gays and unironic flat earth gays, this is a good opportunity to remind you that white men are being successfully removed from astronomy and spacefaring by the most obvious, contrarianism-charged psyop in recent history. Saudi Arabia, Israel, Japan and China are making huge leaps toward rocket development and space travel, while the average white male is becoming increasingly more cynical towards the cosmos. Now NASA is filled with women and south indians, and the only people willing to invest in space exploration are ~~*businessmen and corporations*~~.
You're not cool or rebellious for thinking the stars are holograms and the earth is cardboard. You're a tool, and you've been successfully convinced that you don't need to conquer que final frontier. Honoring your forefathers who dreamed of absolute supremacy in technology and space travel is the biggest act of rebellion a white man can do in the current year. Don't let anyone tell you that you must not raise your head.
How long would it take to fly down to the planet? Years, right? If the orbiting station isn't affected by time dilation, they must be several hours travel from the planet, meaning just landing there would have taken several years, yes?
My biggest grinding gear with the fricking movie, is that we have RIGHT NOW probes to go to other planets, and even then in the movie they also have probes to go to other galaxies
Why the FRICK do they need to go to each planet to check with their fricking eyes
I'm talking about the initial expedition, but later Cooper party ALSO does this
The Black person spent like 20 years alone on the ship wouldn't it be better to dispatch a probe, like right fricking there?
Fricking christ it makes me mad
They were actually not waves, but the water being pulled up by the gravitational pull of the black hole.
If you stood still as it went into you, you'd simply ride up and over it, and be put down on the other side.
If that’s true then the planet would be tidally locked, and the wave wouldn’t be “moving” at all.
And the entire crew would’ve been killed from radiation poisoning.
This scene is ruined for me because how much Wes Bentley fails to get into the shuttle.
You don't get it, he just wanted to check Anne Hathaway's ass
understandable
lewd
her belly is smiling
This. It just felt a bit weird.
Also why didn't the crew react to the loss of a companion? It's like it never happened
they were pretty much in nonstop crisis mode. No time to grieve, especially for what is pretty much a stranger that was just standing there like he wanted to die.
Makes sense.. however it's still weird that they didn't say anything about it
you didnt say anything after i cummed in your ass the other day you homosexual b***h, they were in a state of shock and disbelief.
Just trying to save Nolan's ass but gravity there was crushing. Even in perfect shape astronaut could feel dizziness in minutes.
this but also spacesuits are cumbersome
Yeah, it is extremely infuriating how he dies. Fricking idiotic writing.
>Its not possible!
>No, it's necessary.
I still don't know why people make fun of with this line. Before I watched the movie, some normie friend told me about this line and I was confused because I did not know the context but it was supposed to be really stupid and silly. I watched the movie and that line did not stand out to me than any other line. It was appropriate in the moment and all I thought was "that's it?".
This movie is great because Nolan is a good emotional director. There's obvious nonsense that makes it less scientifically accurate than 2001 but it's still up there with its demonstrations of black holes and time dilation. I like this fills even if Cinemaphile is needlessly contraction about it
>Literally several years into the future
>Orbiting a water-planet that has such a strong gravity time is affected to a massive scale
>Not a single scientist thought to think about the gravity's effect on the tide, even though it's a common concept even on Earth with Moon's puny gravity
>Not to mention they probably orbited the planet for a couple of days and could've easily detected the waves on either scans or with their naked eyes
Into the trash it goes
>oh no the fanfic of the fanfic (space is fake) isn't realistic how could this be possible???
You fricking moron. They actually hired physicists to do the gravity calculations to get the time dilation correctly because Nolan is autistic and wanted it to be 7 years per hour.
Wrong. The physics don’t make sense in the film. Kip Thorne got it wrong because he wanted a fat paycheck.
>The physics don’t make sense in the film
No shit moron. That's why the entire water planet scene is moronic.
I was replying to someone who thought it made sense. Try and keep up Redditor.
>hired professional fanfic writers and still fricked it up
it's almost like the whole concept of space and planets is fricking moronic and impossible...
I believe in space but this image is correct. 80% of physics is fake and gay and 100% of the crazy pop science articles you see about the multiverse or quantum mechanic weird shit or anything involving theoretical physics or quantum mechanics is fake
They literally just make an absurd suggestion, do a million tests and move things untill it works out mathematically then they claim it’s a fact or could be a fact.
Also Kip Thorne wanted a paycheck and to sell a book.
Eat pellets out of a 12-gauge homosexual
how is space fake? show me some proofs because i see the moon every night and it looks real
the moon is real but it's not a giant rock. this pic was the official NASA image of the earth until people noticed it was photoshopped as frick
then people started noticing so NASA released a new official earth photo and it had SEX written in the clouds.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia
Second one maybe first one no.
The first one is just a bad stitching of multiple shots.
You can find any funny number anywhere you want, especially if you truncate and round.
All those 'funny numbers' are the numbers you moron
Maybe they were just cleaning things up to make it more 'presentable'? If the damn thing is flat, where is the 360 degree edge?
you're not allowed to go south of a certain latitude, you'll get stopped by navy or air force and literally shot down if you don't comply
That's south, but about west, east, north?
You can just go to Antarctica it’s not that hard
A space wizard did it to enslave humanity 700 years ago. All the references to the moon in history are actually fake and history is all fake. You been tricked son. Smoke crack rock in u wanna learn more boyo
well the movie did have Neil Tyson as the science advisor, so what did you expect? He did his doctorate thesis in crayon.
That Black person is a fricking moron and knows bullshit.
Agreed
something something time is relative therefore the shape of the waves and the changes in shape/direction can't be seen from outer space
this, if one second on the water planet was equal to a day on earth, the surface would look like it was basically stationary if viewed from outside the range of time dilation
r*ddit tier opinion
You'd think nerds would have thought about it for days or weeks considering they knew a trip to the surface would cost years of Earth time. However...
Since love is the strongest universal force, everything turns out all right in the end. Can't you feel it?
Yeah this. Movie was really stupid.
The worst part was how she nearly destroyed the entire mission to get "the data." What fricking data? There were waves the size of mountains, there was no hope, and even if there was, as they said due to the time dilation the other party had only been gone a couple hours since they got there, they would have gathered the exact same "data."
the Earths tides arent affected by the moons gravity lol
Is that new in the world of well poisoning moron speak or something? I havent heard this one yet, go ahead.
How did the waves get so massive in knee-high water?
this
if you want to argue that the blackhole caused it, it would be more like a rising tide and less like a wave
unless they were on a plateau with a 20,000ft dropoff right beyond their landing craft that wave is totally impossible.
water go up
no water left
ok so, there's a finite amount of water on the planet right?
waves are made of water.
so if you have a big wave, that means a lot of the available water is in that wave instead of on the ground.
if there weren't massive waves all over the planet then the water would be more evenly distributed and it would probably be as deep as a typical ocean.
any more basic concepts of nature confusing you?
Search for the moments before a Tsunami.
x10000000
Drag and pull man. The water is being pulled into the wave so any other water will be lightly dispersed across the planet. If waves did that on earth then you would be able to stand in knee deep oceans until the rotation came around again..
While I did get Goosebumps at this scene, there is zero (0) chance they would have landed on the planet and not know this.
One of their crew is a woman.
this
That kept my suspension of disbelief
Yeah thats fair.
The planet is covered in water. Having a fraction of an inch accumulate in a single wave would be enormous.
>Romily, what did you do all these years?
>My existence is a momentary lapse of reason, got the DNA of gothic lemons
heh not bad
I'd want Rommilly and Father to be my gay black dads.
>I watched some footage
>why didnt you stay noided?
>oh i had a couple of stretches, i stopped believing you were coming back
So you're saying he couldn't avoid the Noid?
I don’t get it at all
how many times do you think he jerk offd?
Fricking hell.
Thos aren women, theyre men
lel
Don't usually go autistic but it bothered me how much science went into the black hole VFX and stuff like no sound in space only for the main plot points to be utterly fantastical. All just to look cool.
Why don't they have probes for the planets?
How are they standing in two feet of water?
If the tidal forces are that intense, why isn't the ground below them a furnace of Yellowstone geysers and volcanic eruptions?
Why does the time dilate so much on the surface of the planet relative to the spaceship when both are of relatively similar distance to the black hole?
Why does the black hole have such a steep gravity gradient so far out when clearly it is a very massive black hole with very gradual gravitational forces such that Cooper avoids being spagettified?
It would have been trivial to rework these set pieces to be more physically plausible.
>Why don't they have probes for the planets?
nolan
>How are they standing in two feet of water?
is
>If the tidal forces are that intense, why isn't the ground below them a furnace of Yellowstone geysers and volcanic eruptions?
a
>Why does the time dilate so much on the surface of the planet relative to the spaceship when both are of relatively similar distance to the black hole?
hack
>Why does the black hole have such a steep gravity gradient so far out when clearly it is a very massive black hole with very gradual gravitational forces such that Cooper avoids being spagettified?
.
TLDR/too drunk but I believe there was a hint Newtons laws of physics don't comply after blackhole
it was marketing. they claimed tons of "the science" went into the movie in order to force suspension of disbelief in response to the stupid shit.
>Why don't they have probes for the planets?
They did, that's what the pioneer astronauts were for.
>Why does the time dilate so much on the surface of the planet relative to the spaceship
The planet is imagined to exist right at the point where the gravity of the black hole starts to have extreme effects. The spaceship stays outside of that point, orbiting the black hole, not the planet. They give you a very simple diagram in the film, one of those moments people apparently have such a problem with because it's "too much exposition".
Your points aren't good I just wouldn't have gone there since its right next to black hole.
It's just a movie bro
I think they did explain the probe thing. I completely forgot what they said. Obvioualy they could communicate through the black hole, so that wasn't the reason. Who knows?
They could communicate inside of the black hole. Time and space are theorized to swap inside of a black hole. He mentions it and its shown as a tesseract.
So was Anne planning on walking to those "mountains"?
The film sucks. It’s so bad I can’t believe anyone likes it.
Also, time dilation doesn’t work like that if the spaceship is orbiting a planet. The guy on the ship would age the same amount as the people on the planet.
Also, why didn’t their spaceship require an insane amount of fuel to leave the water planet which supposedly had super-high gravity?
That’s not an argument homosexual.
no one mistook calling you a moron for an argument, redditor
>if the spaceship is orbiting a planet
Because it was not you crayon muncher. it was orbiting the black ho. They even pointed that out in their dialogue but in your nitpicky need to be the eternal contrarian you failed to notice that.
Really, of all the things to attack it with, the "love is the stronkest force in the universe" subplot is worthy of getting ridiculed.
>subplot
It’s not a subplot, ignoramus. It’s the entire premise of the movie.
That doesn’t make any fricking sense. Imagine a Spaceship landing on Mars, but then the Main ship (in orbit) decides to orbit THE SUN instead of Mars.
This film is a dumb meme.
If they orbited the planet they would go closer to the black hole and be affected even more ya goof. If they orbit the black hole they dont need to spend the extra fuel to get away from it when they leave or maintain orbit since they wouldn't be closer. Did you even watch the movie or are you just dumb and don't understand basic things?
Lmao, I bet you can’t even draw a diagram/picture where that makes sense.
Go to a museum and put a penny in one of those big funnels and leave me alone
Don’t get mad at me because this film sucks, get mad at Nolan.
>Look at me, I mass replied!!!!! Aren’t I just so heckin based fellow old gays XDDD
have a nice day you fricking moron
Who are you quoting?
Lmao, kys. I made a mistake. What a fricking joke of a person you are.
But that love shit is just a line some dumb woman says when she misses her boyfriend. You didn't believe her, did you. They never use or observe love to be a force, so why do you believe a dumb roasty just saying random shit?
wow this movie filtered you hard jesus christ
maybe you should stick to something a little simpler to understand like Avengers...
If you wanted to orbit "safe distance" from a black hole, you couldn't see it, because black holes are like only 30 fricking miles big.
Bahahaha i both love and hate seeing people this stupid. Love it because its hilarious, hate it because they can likely vote.
Explain it then. K thanks.
They were closer on the planet so more affected by the time dilation where as the ship was orbiting the black hole therefore further away. When you get that close every bit of distance is a big deal. Getting off the planet isn't a big deal because its own gravity wasn't strong and its the single ship. Having their main ship maintain orbit around the planet itself for the amount of time they thought theyd spend there was the main issue and why they decided to orbit the black hole to save the fuel. Also its a movie but thats the gist.
>orbiting black hole to save fuel
They will waste much more by doing that
you seem confused by the concept of orbit.
>not understanding how orbit works
If you are orbiting a small planet with low gravity and you go closer to the black hole on part of your orbit, to maintain orbit you will need to use some fuel. If you just do a bigass loop around the black hole you can just make the minor corrections and stay in orbit without having to do a bunch of them over the long time they'd be staying there.
If a planet was that close to a black hole, the entire planet would be wobbling and the core would be stretched/compressed constantly, and there wouldn’t just be a tidal wave but massive volcanos and earthquakes, the planet would be pulled apart by gravity. The planet probably would have its entire atmosphere stripped away from the solar wind/accretion disk of the black holes The ship “orbiting” the black hole Gargantuan doesn’t make any sense either.
In the Milky Way galaxy alone, there are about 400,000,000,000 stars, each with several planets. Traveling to ANOTHER galaxy to find a habitable planet makes zero sense.
>Traveling to ANOTHER galaxy to find a habitable planet makes zero sense.
bruh its where the wormhole led.
Yeah but the whole reason they did that was because of the wormhole that opened. The planet wasn't close enough (in the movie) to experience the extent of the stuff you're talking about.
Did he watch his daughter get fricked from the 4th dimmension?
> MUUUUURPH! NO MURPH! THINK OF THE WHITE RACE! MUUUUUURPH!
Actor dropped for trying to turn politician.
>WOW THE 4TH DIMENSION IS LOVE!!!
nolan is a fricking hack
This is an allusion to empedocles, who Newton stole his cosmology from. Love and strife=gravity and inertia. Love is God's energy.
Nolan pretty much exhausted all his ideas relating to thematic and character writing with inception and the batman movies. Interstellar has the depth of a puddle and Tenet, well...
Anybody got a webm of the waves? Or the movie title so I can look up the scene? I wanna see these waves.
You really dont know the movie?
I usually only browse off-topic threads. But mountain-sized waves seemed intriguing.
Is that really surprising? This is Cinemaphile, you really expect people to actually WATCH movies?
Interstellar I think
At least this one is more honest and hasn't seen the movie. Half the people here prob just repeat what other people say or go off of YouTube videos for their opinions.
The big fricking wave
Well you’re not wrong.
Fricking awesome. I'll suspend disbelief for goosebump intense scenes like this one
a staggering amount of this movie looked 100% real
Just look it up on youtube, the music is what really does the scene to me.
(Look up the meaning of the music after you watched the scene)
How do you guys think she reacted when Cooper came to her and told her that their whole mission was pointless because his daughter invented anti-gravity?
this b***h has the skull of a 14 year old boy. i would never breed her.
Women have small heads like yes, children
femheadcel cope
She could only create anti-gravity because they went on the mission.
Because of the Force of Universal Love mysterious 5th Dimensional beings have for us.
but God is totally not real! vague made up science platitude is real though!
I’m surprised and glad that this hasn’t caught on. It’s a nice idea and it would suck if it became super popular
It was already invented by the time Cooper went back.
>these are the people who try to nitpick Interstellar
What do you mean?
anti-gravity being invented by the time Cooper went back is irrelevant because he was the one who gave Murph the formula for doing so
The effects of his actions "inside" the black hole were present before he went on the mission which means that she would've received the message and solved the formula in any case unless you believe in some moronic parallel timeline shit.
you're the one that believes in moronic parallel timeline shit because how could she receive the message if Cooper didn't send it?
I am not the one who wrote this stupid-ass movie, lmao.
>The effects of his actions "inside" the black hole were present before he went on the mission
No they weren't. He only moved a few books before he left, he sends the data to the clock AFTER he leaves, it's right there in the fricking movie you zoomer tard. If he had never left he would have never been able to send the data
>No they weren't. He only moved a few books before he left
Don't reply to me ever again if you can't even write two sentences without contradicting yourself.
You fricking moron, him pushing a few books meant nothing. He NEEDED to leave Earth so his other self realizes how to transmit the data, otherwise everything would explode because of the paradox and the implication.
>otherwise everything would explode because of the paradox and the implication.
That's your moronic head-canon.
You're black aren't you
Not that anon but he’s right if you think about it. Why else would he have to sit there and study the dust lines to figure out they’re coordinates? The only logical answer is they are two versions of the same person
>The effects of his actions "inside" the black hole were present before he went on the mission which means that she would've received the message and solved the formula in any case unless you believe in some moronic parallel timeline shit.
would she be long dead by the time he got there?
would her data be responsible for the machine cooper goes into and his love guides him to his daughter?
>would she be long dead by the time he got there?
The whole Universe should've been long dead by the time he got out of the black hole.
You would think it would be easier to solve the agricultural crisis than invent anti-gravity
That’s another thing, the film doesn’t even explain how humanity was able to build 60+ O’Neil Cylinders within a few decades, totally dismantling the entire planet Earth as they did it.
we can already build smaller ones if we wanted to, if earth is about to die i find it plausible everyone agrees to spend all of humanities resources and manpower into building 60 big ones, even more so with antigravity
>if earth is about to die i find it plausible everyone agrees to spend all of humanities resources and manpower into building 60 big ones
lmao no, you'd get half the American population screaming about how it's a israeli conspiracy theory.
Because the movie promotes running away from problems
TAAAARS
>MUUUURPH! DONT FLICK THE BEAN! MUUUURRTH NOOOOO
>the blackhole somehow sucks in time and makes you not age
if i wanted to watch unrealistic scifi shit id watch bill and teds excellent adventure
wat
He's posting a dyke so its dog shiite care of a trannie!
It's a shit movie because spaghettification didn't occur
The black hole was too big to spaghettify.
This is true but you'd still be evaporated by Hawking radiation before crossing the horizon.
>From a distant observer's point of view, you are slowing down as you fall toward the horizon, taking an infinity of time to reach it
>Eventually, far in the future but still after a finite length of time, the Black hole evaporates with Coop having never fallen past the horizon
>Coop is dismantled by a massive blast of Hawking radiation as the hole finishes evaporating
Nothing gets past the horizon alive, not even for supermassive Black holes.
There are ways of mitigating radiation, this assumes you jump in naked
midwit
The bigger the black hole, the more gravity it has and thus it would rip you apart and turn you into a stream of atoms anyways. That’s why all super massive black holes have an insanely bright accretion disk full of plasma-hot matter spooning around it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ton_618
If Kip Thorne tries to explain it any other way, then it becomes pseudoscience with no basis in reality.
Incorrect, if you double the mass, the Schwarzschild radius doubles but the tidal force at the new event horizon will be half of the original. For a supermassive black hole, the distance at which you will be spaghettified lies inside the event horizon.
Exactly, so either way if you enter a black hole, you die.
You’d also be ripped to shreds by the super hot plasma/matter circling the black hole in the accretion disk.
Nolan is a moron, because he thinks that the accretion disk is just light, not matter/radiation.
>Exactly, so either way if you enter a black hole, you die.
Not if it's made by four-dimensional beings from the future.
Even if you didn't you'd also orbit for an insane amount of time before even "entering" but its a movie and its cool. Why do people get a stick up their butt about this stuff?
I hate fake science films that parade themselves as being realistic and “backed by science”. Kip Thorne is a hack.
Exactly. Isn’t it basically impossible to “enter” a black hole even if you’re going as fast as the speed of light? Then there’s this: https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1191121/black-hole-news-time-travel-milky-way-space-discovery-supermassive-black-holes-sagittarius
And that’s the reason why so little of Interstellar makes sense. They basically tried to make things make sense as a single scene (or frame), but when you out it all together in a film everything collapses and breaks down.
That’s why it’s called science fiction, you absolute fricktard
I agree with you, Kip Thorne is an absolute fricktard
That book shows Nolan actually wasn't into the science that much and Thorne had to relent on a lot of ideas to allow the movie to finally get bankrolled.
it doesnt matter when observer watching person dropping into a black hole would have to wait infinite amount of time for it to happen because of time dilation. Even if he survived the universe outside would be totally different by then.
>It's a shit movie because spaghettification didn't occur
>Future people can easily manipulate time and space
>Cant make a safe passage for a ship that avoids sphagettification
Are you moronic?
qt
Time is an invention, you are aware of that right?
Proof? Why did things in the past happen in the past, why can’t I go to the Roman Empire today, why do people get old and objects age, and don’t tell me you buy into the “duuude it’s on another spatial dimension right now maaan” literally 0 proof. time is objective and linear
You have a black hole where your brain should be.
First time I watched the movie, I thought Cooper has left the station to fetch Hathaway. Rewatched it recently and he's clearly going there to die with her on that rock. Really rubbed me the wrong way.
I am sorry you are gay.
There was no need for that "restarting the human race" bullshit anymore. Yet Cooper throws his and her life away, going to live on that uninhabited island. Because he's "an explorer". I can't help but feel sad for him.
>Yet Cooper throws his and her life away
That's why noone will remember your name.
I pooped my pants aga
i'm so scared of water my breathe went up watching the scene
Black person detected
i will happily breed your wife if that's what you want
what if i told you i'm married to the sea?
that's code for gay
t. doesn't know the warmth of dolphin pussy
it's just a bit of buggery, lad. Pay the hemorrhoids no mind
>"Time dilation is really bad!"
>don't send unmanned probes to the dangerous planets, send people instead
>"Now you need to go retrieve the people... Because you just have to!"
Incredibly hackneyed plot. It would have been better for the planets to be totally unexplored instead of trying to find a way to work in Matt Damon.
could you please remind me his motivation for killing people, stealing space ships, and ruining major humanity saving mission.
>could you please remind me his motivation for killing people, stealing space ships, and ruining major humanity saving mission.
Sure.
B R A V O
he was crazy from eating shit potatoes.
Like he told Cooper, he never really considered the possibility that he would just wind up stranded on a dead planet and left to die so when that became reality he couldn't deal and his only way out was to subvert the mission to save humanity to save himself instead. And he had no way to know if that was even going to work.
So after realizing he'd thrown his life away on a futile mission to nowhere and committing an act of gross (if understandable) cowardice by sending that false date, he goes into hypersleep knowing if no one comes he dies in there. Dude suffered a kind of ego death and then embraced his real death. He was perma-shook. Everything that happened after he woke up was probably like a kind of unreality to him and what he was trying to do was re-attempt his solo mission but successfully this time. He was like a zombified version of himself
Good post. Another irony to this is how Coop subconsciously tries to subvert the mission even when he’s made it all the way into the tesseract. When he’s crying and telling Murph to not let him go. He still hasn’t realized he’s about to complete the mission and is willing to damn all of humanity just for more time with his daughter. Shit is totally cash.
>Shit is totally cash.
Are you a time traveller from 2009?
Time speeds up as you age, so yes.
Frick is this true?? It seems that way
In other words…
based explanation, I would have just said
TLDR; he wanted to live
Space madness.
>chocolate covered raisins
>chicken pot pie
>a glazed ham
Fortune favours the bold
*brave
someone post the shoop 4 u
His name was Dr. Hugh Mann
Dr. Hugh Mann
Dr. Huge Man
> bravo nolan
True auteurs insert themes consistent and constant across all their work.
>Female scientist reports in less than an hour planet covered entirely by water is survivable
Into the trash it goes
Gibi did an Interstellar ASMR Roleplay video.
Is there anything more trans than ASMR?
you guys are arguing about realism but the relativity concepts aren't they fringe theoretical concepts which could be falsified in the future?
bruh the earth is literally flat and there's a big dome above us/ just go outside at night and you can literally see it. science is all made up bullshit.
watching douchey drug addicted actors trying act smart and 'sciency' is the most cringe shit ever
>we will never get a prequel series about the Lazarus missions
>go to alien world
>oh no, it's uninhabitable
>wait to die
not sure there's much to work with anon
Since the massive waves on Miller's planet come in ~1 hour intervals, Dr. Miller had to literally have sent her data within minutes of landing. Because if she knew of the massive waves there is no way she would have sent that. So she landed, gathered data, and sent it out saying it was habitable all in less than an hour.
She had more important things to do than some silly science stuff. Women don't owe you anything, chud.
Shes prob got scared and pressed button then got smashed by a wave. Thats why you dont have women and Matt Damon as astronauts
it was a great scene. i thought the film as a whole is a big cringy and specially the ending, it was moronic and the level of emotional manipulation and the music jumped the shark by a lot, but the wave scene was very well done, looked fantastic, it was very suspensful and tight and so on
we liked the film overall, right?
In my opinion, yes. This movie is similar to Oblivion for me, where if you look closely the plot holes start to reveal themselves but if you're willing to accept the premise then it's extremely enjoyable
>we liked the film overall, right?
No, it was capeshit wrapped in pseudoscience. It’s one of the worst, dumbest and definitely most bombastic movies I’ve ever seen.
None of your morons understand how black holes work - allow me to illustrate
I've seen enough porn to know EXACTLY how black holes work.
you idiot, he's demonstrating wormholes in the pic, not blackholes.
the way you create a wormhole is to entangle two blackholes together
>entangle two blackholes together
go on...
?t=636
Wrong, the "exit" out of a black hole is a white hole.
you’re a fricking moron have a nice day
Nolan wanted the science to be accurate so he brought lots of scientists and physicists to advise him but he told them he didn't want science to get in the way of story. So the science on display is ***technically*** accurate but the way it's presented in the film is inaccurate because he couldn't write a story to accommodate it. He threw away science to make a heartwarming story about a father and daughter.
There are parts of the movie that just get space wrong but there are also A LOT of plot points that people seem to completely ignore which explicitly explain why things happen.
It's like people who complain about Anne Hatheway's line about love spanning time and space when that is literally the theme of the movie and how Cooper manages to save the human race
>people complain about a stupid line being the core of the movie
wow
it's not a stupid line because it is proven to be true moron
its a stupid line, and a stupid concept, making a stupid movie.
I am sorry you've never experienced true love. I pray that someday you will.
>if you don't believe emotions transcend space/time then you've never felt them
this is woman logic
It's just a woman appealing to emotions.
>virgins on a cambodian foraging board do not understand how the movie repeatedly decries isolation and personal sacrifice over collaboration and deep connections as ways to advance society
Becoming a physicist has completely destroyed my interest in sci-fi
why did they go to an all water planet to find food? food cant grow in water
Hydroponics.
stupid, there are fishes in the water
i dont remember seeing them with fishing poles
cooper had a collapsible rod in his stuff when he left the house to go to space
>what is kelp
Of all the planets they went to, they decided NOT to go to a Super Earth that probably has dinosaurs and other tasty animals on it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetary_habitability
how does love NOT transcend time and space...?
watch as people are unable to answer this
you can't love a 2D girl created 20 y....
never mind
if time travel was possible we would see time travelers, this multidimensional travel shit is just wishful thinking
But muh gravity!
I imagine a time traveler would just be really rich
>entire planet is just a knee-deep ocean with a giant wave every now and then
this makes no sense at all
>doesn't understand how waves work
It might surprise some people who never graduated high school but prior to a tsunami, the tide recedes.
I still can't wrap my head around what caused Dr. Miller to send the thumbs up signal.
All the gargantua science is mostly feasible and explainable, but her sending the signal immediately just makes no sense.
the signal was distorted by time, clearing the planet has rapidly changed since the signal was sent
This movie was advertised as "scientifically accurate" which is not even true, it is barely better than science accuracy in Star Wars.
That's because space travel is slow and boring. Every movie that tries to do that accurately has to have something frick up along the way to make a story out of.
Says the guy who watches YouTube videos to tell him things and needs a helmet to eat soup
What if i am a construction engineer?
That's what they call truckstop bathroom connoisseurs now?
>carry’s the first half of your kino
your welcome
>Those aren't mountains...they're WATER mountains, that also move... how would you call them, Doyle? Help me out here
I love the movie, but one thing bothers me.
They leave Earth with a multistage rocket launch (to my understanding).
Then, to leave the water planet, they use a more sci-fi engines of the small ship...
The gravity of the water planet isn't crazy but its being affected by the gravity of the black hole. Like our tides are affected by the moon but to an insane extent. The multi stage rocket is because its leaving earth and carrying their space station type ship and the multiple ships and all their supplies and fuel, not just a single shuttle type ship.
I liked Interstellar a lot, seeing it IMAX was pretty special though deafening.
I will say this
>Be elite scientist astronauts
>Need to demonstrate the idea of wormholes with pencil and folding paper
Just fricking really?
Obviously for the audience. Notice how here even with bones thrown to the audience to help explain it people aren't even getting the idea of a basic orbit.
It's good to have one moment of treating space as a physical object because they're going to be doing the same thing with time later on.
I know it's for the audience but it's still very dumb and jarring to me. Maybe make the dialogue more casual, and use your hands instead like
>You know how wormholes supposedly connect through folded space right? Well what if we...
And not have it be sci fi 101 break the tempo type lesson
True
Maybe doing your 4th grade science project about orbits again would help?
The paper method is much more intuitive and efficient, that's why it's a cliche at this point.
>Those aren’t pillows …
So the main plan of NASA is to build massive space habitats on Earth and launch them into space with gravity magic, right? That's why they want Cooper to get the black hole formula, because of the gravity problem.
What I don't understand is, why was it necessary to launch them into space? If they already had the technology to create self-sufficient, hermetically sealed artificial environments that would survive the rigours of space, wouldn't they be just as effective on Earth even after all the plants outside died for no reason?
It all started with the message from the future so they had to go explore, its human nature
Seems like the human extinction problem was more pressing than the space exploration problem
Remember they were all led on by the lie told by Michael Cane's character
Yeah i dont really get that part.
It seems it would be easier to "just fix the food problem" than to completely ditch earth.
Like some sealed seaweed algae shit in a glass bubble.
They probably needed to cull all the brown people so it gave them an excuse. They'll hang out in space for a while and then come back and rebuild. After all, anti gravity and building a self sustaining space station is easier than dealing with brown people.
Also, the “food problem” lasted like 40 years before they even started to fix it. So I guess it wasn’t that much of a problem.
And another 60 years before they sent the gravity data back.
Exactly. It would’ve been way cheaper to just enclose farmland in glass, instead of tearing up the entire planet to creat O’Neil cylinders that probably cost 1 Quadrillion dollars each.
Not with those two though! Those rascals tear up everything!
1) Food availability wasn't the only problem, the atmosphere shifting towards less oxygen and more C02 would render the planet uninhabitable. Terrariums might have produced enough food to keep everybody alive for a while but not enough oxygen. "The last people to starve will be the first to suffocate," remember?
2) The habitats are temporary. The idea was always to find another habitable planet and the off-planet stations are incremental steps towards that. Again, this is something the movie explicitly stats when old Murph Refers to Brand setting up camp on "our new Home." Like, what did you think, that even though they actually found a suitable replacement for earth and figured out how to get everybody off-world and Brand was already there setting up colonies they would just be like "nah, we're cool, the entire human population will just live forever on this satellite which is 1/10,000th the size of the planet we abandoned and cannot sustain an increase in population"
If you guys are going to nitpick the plot of movie maybe you should try following the plot first so you're not brining up problems that were already explicitly addressed by the script. It's not Nolan's fault you have add
1. If the atmosphere was shifting to "more CO2", then that would've solved the food issue because CO2 is plant food, and more plants would've grown, thus creating more oxygen. During the time of the dinosaurs, CO2 was something like 900ppm. Nolan doesn't know shit about science. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1342937X13003043
2. So what? If they were going to use the O'Neil Cylinders as temporary shelters, they wouldn't need to find a planet hundreds of billions of miles away. They'd just have to terraform Mars or Venus (Venus would take longer).
Agreed, they could've sent out dozens of probes through the wormhole and found several good planets much more quickly. Especially since we later see that the "mission" wasn't urgent at all, and people were still alive on Earth for another 30-40 years (or whatever) until they started building O'Neil Cylinders (which would've taken another 100 years so I'm not even sure how Murph is alive/dying at the end of the film).
This movie is scientific you Chuds. Le Binary is the best method to send data if you have limited time.
This scene scared me. What if the waves on Earth were that fricking high?
they sometimes are
>curvature is so insane the time is like 10000x dilated on the planet
>they just land there and walk around instead of getting instantly killed by absolutely insane forces
>i'll prove a point with hyperbole
To troll gays and unironic flat earth gays, this is a good opportunity to remind you that white men are being successfully removed from astronomy and spacefaring by the most obvious, contrarianism-charged psyop in recent history. Saudi Arabia, Israel, Japan and China are making huge leaps toward rocket development and space travel, while the average white male is becoming increasingly more cynical towards the cosmos. Now NASA is filled with women and south indians, and the only people willing to invest in space exploration are ~~*businessmen and corporations*~~.
You're not cool or rebellious for thinking the stars are holograms and the earth is cardboard. You're a tool, and you've been successfully convinced that you don't need to conquer que final frontier. Honoring your forefathers who dreamed of absolute supremacy in technology and space travel is the biggest act of rebellion a white man can do in the current year. Don't let anyone tell you that you must not raise your head.
I think I'll just do whatever the opposite Israel is doing, thank you very much
Ill never understand why they even bothered wasting decades on a planet they could clearly see from fricking orbit wasn't suitable for human life
TARS was cool.
If white people so smart, why did they never invent a WHITEhole?
How long would it take to fly down to the planet? Years, right? If the orbiting station isn't affected by time dilation, they must be several hours travel from the planet, meaning just landing there would have taken several years, yes?
I want to have rough, passionate sex with Mackenzie Foy (Murph).
Anyone else?
My biggest grinding gear with the fricking movie, is that we have RIGHT NOW probes to go to other planets, and even then in the movie they also have probes to go to other galaxies
Why the FRICK do they need to go to each planet to check with their fricking eyes
I'm talking about the initial expedition, but later Cooper party ALSO does this
The Black person spent like 20 years alone on the ship wouldn't it be better to dispatch a probe, like right fricking there?
Fricking christ it makes me mad
They were actually not waves, but the water being pulled up by the gravitational pull of the black hole.
If you stood still as it went into you, you'd simply ride up and over it, and be put down on the other side.
If that’s true then the planet would be tidally locked, and the wave wouldn’t be “moving” at all.
And the entire crew would’ve been killed from radiation poisoning.