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>$65,000 to write down "White Man Bad" on slip of paper
>Still demand more
Leftoids are the most fragile snowflakes on the planet
Watch better media.
name 5
Alien
Aliens
Predator
Commando
Jackie Chan
Life on Mars US
None of that in the 2020's are there?
dau, la flor, coma, full river red, roller junkies for stuff in the last couple of years
only one, anime
we are, that's why there's a writers strike
~0.3% of screenplays are bought up by studios, its the studios who choose to produce this trash
Lol, this 0.3% is the cream of the crop, what garbage is the other 99.7%?
No the 0.3% is mostly what the suits deem marketable or otherwise fits their company image
Name one movie that is just white man bad
Slenderman.
That shit was so funny my sister and I disturbed someone in the theater laughing. I still feel a little bad but frick em it was funny and there was only eight people there anyway.
Black Christmas 2019
Seriously, go watch it. Don't watch a YouTube review or fast forward through it, I mean actually watch the whole thing. It's the worst piece of anti-male (but excusing token black guy for no reason) propaganda I've ever seen.
The Forever Purge (2021)
Anything made by the US guy
Avatar
Avatar 2
Avatar 3
>just
odd qualifier
Roots
Get Out
They cloned Tyrone
No fricking way it actually looked kinda cool
Literally anything by Jordan Peele.
oppenheimer
barbie
avatar
avatar 2
girl with the dragon tattoo(2011)
the menu
the silence of the lambs
pusher
dune part 1
i think you're just genuinely too moronic to think of any deeper theme in a movie than "this movie doesn't like me because i'm white man :("
moron
Lmao are you people really that poor? Thank god I'm Asian and not a poor whitoid. Left college making $110,000 right off the bat. Poorgays are literally beneath me.
lmaoing at your microdick
poorgay whitoid cope
no creativity
>Muh dick
Small brain
It's true, whites think $70k is a lot of money. It's because they all went to state college and getting a boring shitty marketing gig is like their ideal job. For an Asian American majoring in medicine or engineering at an ivy league, $70k would seem like crumbs.
>70k is crumbs to anyone looking to work in a medicine or engineering
Gee, who would've thought.
>engineering
kek I can tell you dont make a lot of money
>t. got an accounting degree 15 years ago and make half a mil a year and didnt need to go into 500k debt in med school
>accounting
God I feel so bad for you. You are probably such a boring person.
tech, finance, etc have tons of white people making more than 110k, you're the poorgay and you have a small dick on top of it. sad!
Starting with $110k would mean you would probably retire with over $400k. That puts you in the top 1%.
Frick you some of us tried to make the band work even though the lead singer wouldn't stop drinking and doing coke and everyone knew the drummer was just gonna quit one day to go back to school and now you're stuck selling used cars to other poor people for $2000 commissions and free sodas.
Just sell instrument lessons lol instead of saying all this cringe shit.
gen x whites are so cringe and failures as role models
Saying cringe shit is all you can do as a failed creative, it's what we do. I do some lessons on the side and I wouldn't be poor except I live in a high COL area so I'm SOL.
>used cars to other poor people for $2000 commissions
LMFAO and you're complaining? I don't even have money for a $2000 car and you think poor people buy cars you get $2000 commissions from holy frick entitled rich morons.
Car market is just fricked in some cities. My example was an '04 4runner. $8k. Three years ago it'd be $2-4k. The extra money I make doesn't outweigh everything getting 300% more expensive.
Don't know how anyone's supposed to afford anything when a 19 year old truck is that expensive but whatever.
Fricking hell I want your job. Imagine just doing nothing and getting money from other people's transactions.
Which Asian country do you live in
I'm in your country. I'm colonizing it by dominating your universities, taking all the STEM jobs, and then buying all the real estate to rent it out to the poorgay native whites at an inflated cost.
i'm coronizing your universities and renting apartments out at infrated corst
the only thing you’re colonizing is my penis buddy
You mean you’re not in your own rich and prosperous Asian country and in a poor White one instead? That’s kinda odd
you're making money thanks to european civilization! oriental subhuman
>european civilization
>banks and media run by israelites
>corporations run by pajeets
>academia and tech run by chinks
the fact that they had to hijack inventions and institutions created by europeans and their descendants tells you something
Stop it you’re going to flare up the brown inferiority complex
Based Korea not applicable to that map. Japan doesn't count because they're basically a reformatted USA version.
65,000 is great... if you don't live in a shithole like California, or worse, anywhere close to Hollywood.
why don't they just write two scripts instead of one and make $130,000 a year?
Too many people in the industry. Naturally this is the industry issue, not the writers.
they do
not to mention the billions of taxpayer dollars going to advertising for troons
Yeah, you and me we live in the great state of Ohio. Hope to see you at the pig fricking next Friday!
You can write a script literally anywhere and email it to a studio. This isn't 1947. These people choose to live in LA.
Studios heads give unsolicited scripts to their office receptionist, to review. Literally this.
You cant break into Hollywood unless you live there. You have to network and meet people. Do you really think people are hired purely based off skill or talent? If that were the case then modern movies would be 10 times better.
Living right outside of LA and commuting in is considerably cheaper than living directly in LA which all these homosexuals do
They could easily live somewhere a little outside of town and do the 30 minute drive but nooo, they need their nobus and equinoxes and trader joes
>entry pay: 51k
If you paid me 51 thousand doll hairs a year to write, I'd work 16 hours a day.
Average studio rent in LA is 2000 dollars a month, you want to work for 4k a month there?
And their food is comped when they work. I like working, and I like writing. I'd work 16 hours a day, and would be saving up most of that money.
>Average studio rent in LA is 2000 dollars a month, you want to work for 4k a month there?
Yes?
That not enough to live in LA without a roommate
If only there was some sort of system of worldwide computers that were networked together, that you could use to live, say, somewhere cheap.... and then be able to send your written work to LA in some sort of digital form.
The real problem is that Hollywood is run entirely on corrupt favoritism, so your only way to get hired as a writer is to live there and constantly network and suck up to executives so you get noticed.
>a roommate
you mean 5 roommates?
is this supposed to be a lot of money? all these seething poortards making me like the striking writers
It's above GDP per capita of the most wealthy nation this planet has ever seen.
it isnt even
Why don't these affluent people protest how the GDP per capita is +70k dollars, and most don't make 30? Then I might give them a little bit of support.
They do and you just laugh at them and mumble something about bootstraps and leftism
They've never shown an ounce of solidarity with me, living off of 20 thousand dollars a year from veterans disability.
>how about instead of trying to fix their situation, they fix the world? maybe then ill get behind them
grow up
That's their role in society, bud.
whats your role being a moron?
At least I haven't developed histrionics personality disorder from being raised by a bunch of thespians.
bizarrely specific
Yes, I'm quite good at my role, showing people what ails them.
your role is being an autistic homosexual and yes you are exceeding all expectations
Please, keep showing me, with your inflammatory language aimed at gathering (You)s, disproves my prognosis.
gay moron says what
What?
In the future, after having shown such signs of illness, a medical professional will directed to your domicile to take you the loony bin.
first day on the chan? who wants to break in the newbie? im in my refractory period
Oh, you take wasting time as a point of pride. No wonder the liberals are easily destroying you.
you project a lot Im starting to think you might be a head case raised by thespians that gets destroyed by libtards
While displaying your impeccable wit with this post, you could have been learning something, or getting more physically fit. Once again, proving me right; that you are deserving of your failures. It's not nepotism or affirmative action that you got you down: it's laziness.
nta, but writing like a pretentious arrogant supercilious uberhomosexual won't get you bonus points in here, ma'am. you're not getting upboated.
Then why is 25 of 118 post in this thread attached with a (You) on it.
did you suddenly become an ESL? weird
Sorry, it's suppertime.
cant wait to run into your mother there and frick her loopy brains out
GDP per capita takes into account non-working population. A decent salary for a childfree worker in L.A is like 75k.
still is a lot of money, if you are an average worker you need to be in switzerland or luxemburg to hope having a gdp per capita bigger than that. Those writers basically get just average wage. If hollywood is too fricking expensive tho, that is another problem, they should live somewhere else, writing is one of the easiest remote jobs
They don't want to remote in from an affordable area, they want to live like caligula while making the lives of normal people worse.
Why do brainlets love comparing wages to per capita GDP?
Because establishment Republican grifters commonly use it to gaslight the population into thinking everything is fine.
>Because establishment Republican grifters commonly use it to gaslight the population into thinking everything is fine.
>Dinesh and little Benji trained this one well
Good goy
Projection from wokies who download their personalities from vaush and Destiny.
Why do they deserve more than people doing other jobs?
>western writers
Oh nooooo who will subvert my children and turn them gay now? This is a threat to our democracy.
>65k in california
I don't understand, does California only have script writers as their whole population?
no, they have plenty of other useless jobs too, that's partly why it so fricking expensive to live there, most people do not make any good for the economy of the state.
Doesn't CA have like the largest state economy in the country? Like 5th largest in the world if it was an independent entity?
Yes but the trade off of that is that they have a lot of large corpos and thus a huge number of "fake" jobs. Plus tons of tax money from these companies to waste on silly lib pet projects that never pan out
Wealth is sometimes a curse as much as a blessing
Ofcourse not they have poor people in California same as everywhere else.
You think those frickers out there make their own hamburgers at McDonald's?
try living in hollywood on $65,000
Pretty easy, especially when Mom and Dad still pay the rent.
Skill issue.
Who says you have live in hollywood mr. white privilege. Go find an apartment in long beach and commute.
try living in long beach on $65,000
Pretty easy when that's what you make for 3 months of work and then find somewhere else to work for 3 months and then find somewhere else to work for 3 months and then take a 3 month vacation. Also, Mom and Dad are paying their rent.
??????? delusional on how the industry works
My bad I forgot how rough and tumble these blue collar TV and movie writers were, so self made, yeah they really rough it. Hands blistering from the MacBook keys, can barely hold onto the coffee cup. You're a moron. Stop crying about it troony.
At what a great idea that no one had thought of yet. Now that you’ve told us, everyone will do it and the price of housing will skyrocket. I’m surprised basic supply and demand is beyond anons on here.
>I’m surprised basic supply and demand is beyond anons on here.
Funny coming from someone seething about not being paid enough for their "labor"
Learn to code.
>Learn to code
Like the Indian immigrants sleeping at the Twitter headquarters because Musk figured out a way to enslave people? Maybe I’ll just kill you instead.
You think you're smarter than you really are.
The housing crisis is mainly exacerbated by boomer renters and a large influx of people buying houses in cash. Neither of those apply to your average wfh wagie, or even the more exceptional ones for that matter.
commuting in los angeles is the ninth circle of hell.
Fitting.
Writing was the original "work" from home job moron
You can literally do it anywhere
>they said 'learn to code'
>someone coded AI
>now they're fricked
top tier twist
if you want AI written television and film you're moronic
can't be worse than what we have now
if you want" ALL WHITE MEN ARE EVIL RAPISTS THAT SHOULD KILL THEMSELVES" television and film you're moronic
the AI would be trained on that content moron, you'd literally just get worse versions of it
So everything is the same except miserable homosexual Hollywood israelite writers are left destitute in LA.
Wrong, OpenAI needs to pay millions of dollars a day just to keep ChatGPT from outputting wrongthink.
Then I have no dog on the fight and need to focus on stopping watching any media.
Good to know I was right to want everyone published
Punished *
The shit thats wrote for film and television now is being made by NPC's and has no soul to it.
So who is the moron now?
The difference is ai will improve over time.
Hollywood writes have degraded.
no it doesn't, we already know AIs trained on AIs get worse, not better
you have to have data made by humans, otherwise you get a recursive cycle of garbage, like a copy of a copy of a copy
You have no idea what you're talking about.
arrogant moron
you too.
Outdated info, anon.
Yeah bro, computers spontaneously generated consciousness since then. It’s over for orrganismcels.
Cool strawman.
What's so great about the current writers?
>make slop for decades
>surprised when nobody will notice the slop tastes different with a new recipe
Not my problem.
>They mocked blue collar workers with "takin er jerbs"
>their jobs end up getting taken by AI
Yet another reason not to give a frick about these scum
Still waiting, for examples.
I thought when that happened they were mocking journalists again bc they were freaking out about not being able to work as a journo anymore
Don't need examples, know it happened. Hope you starve
It was all liberal journalists like Vice that said that shit.
>Didn't screencap every Facebook post from 10+ years ago? Guess I'll be obtuse and pretend it never happened
seek and ye shall find
I hope the writers lose their homes
Ironic, it's better writing than they could have come up with
Why don't we pick on the billionares who employed them and made them require check lists for their agenda?
Why don’t they have some integrity and turn down social justice slop? Because they agree with it
https://www.wga.org/the-guild/advocacy/inclusion-and-equity
That’s how much I get paid for just washing dishes lol.
>be writer
>make 65K a week because of nepotism and blackrock esg
>AI comes about
>jewman bergstein says the AI can also write "brave, beautiful, stunning" dialogue with black man and white woman
>change my gender and race to become a peg-legged one-eyed black pirate lesbian non-binary otherkin and claim oppression and sexual harassment and transphobia
>earn 150k a week
>65K a week
65/year you fricking dipshit
for california that's living month-to-month
If its so easy and it pays so much why dont you just write anon? You have a keyboard dont you? Its free money.
You guys are fricking moronic. This is about the people who actually work vs the shareholders who passively make money on their investments. The amount of money made by movies is absurd, and right now it's all going to Disney shareholders. The fact that some dickhead who barely knows the name of the movie is making 100x off of it compared to the people who actually did the work and made it is obscene.
Not to mention this is a high profile battle between workers and management, you can bet your ass that whatever the result is here many other industries will follow the trend
>people who make the risk get the reward
No way!
So buy shares if you're getting a 100x returns dumbass lol
Disney isn't posting strong dividends because they aren't making returns.
Are you actually moronic?
maybe, just maybe, don't sell your work as a contractor, but make your story, your brand, sell the rights, then get royalities, no?
I don't hear artists that make lol splash arts demanding a % of lol profits because the game makes billions every year, they are just paid for their time and work they did
And if those shareholders didn't make money, the entire business would go under. Thinking shareholders shouldn't make money when they are the ones who own the business is moronic
>You guys are fricking moronic. This is about the people who actually work vs the shareholders who passively make money on their investments. The amount of money made by movies is absurd, and right now it's all going to Disney shareholders. The fact that some dickhead who barely knows the name of the movie is making 100x off of it compared to the people who actually did the work and made it is obscene.
>Not to mention this is a high profile battle between workers and management, you can bet your ass that whatever the result is here many other industries will follow the trend
Blackrock circumvents that entire process with its troonyvestments.
it's it's that easy why don't they just start making movies on their own then?
Just make your own studio chud.
>work at walmart putting 60oz bottles of cheetos on the shelf
>I am now entitled to millions of dollars from walmart and pepsi
Frick off.
>based on 58 people not being 100% honest
it could be 350k a year or 20k and we won't ever know because 8 billion sources of data are all competing for space at the same time
If those pieces of shit hadn't have ruined their own state they could afford to live there. Burn.
How much do garbage men make?
Or do they all travel from out of state to work lol
more thank 65k
It's always an esl.
That's TV writers.
Feature Chads suffer poverty stoically until they string together enough sales and options to coast.
You know that averages also include the absolute top % earners that greatly inflate what the average is, right? You're not all really this dumb?
The OP image gives you the lowest and highest moron.
to be fair it says $65k median, but it also says $65k average and i find it highly unlikely that the median and average are the same as they almost never are for compensation pools, especially ones as stratified as hollywood writers
The median is a type of average. "Average" and "mean" are not synonymous.
"median" is not a type of "average" when they mean different things altogether. maybe they are to journalists or redditors, but median has a mathematical meaning separate from average. when talking about money, it's almost always better to clarify if you're talking about the mean amount or the median amount because they are almost invariably different by significant amounts, as they surely are here
Used to work with this asian dyel sperg like this. Always talked about history and breaking bad. Tried to sound smart.
did you graduate from 4th grade?
My coworkers once invited a sperg like that to a fake white-tie party and then sent him a photo of ourselves hanging out at a pub.
He quit not long after that lol
??? they have different meanings. if you throw up a graph that says $65k median and $65k average, that is misleading to everyone who passed a stats 101 course, and people who haven't passed one don't even know what "median" means.
every work team has one
Asians like math.
$65000 is literally nothing in California and still below the average income in the USA. Where do you gays live if you think this is a good salary?
>sits on his ass all day and writes some shit
woah life's so hard :~~*
>shehulk writer got 32k for one single episode script and a few weeks of work
I know what it is, they are lazy and don't want to work.
no wonder every bit of content they produce is shit
lmao 65k doesn't even get you a down payment on a home where I live, let alone California
Writercucks don't deserve homes tbqh. Aren't they all communists anyways? Shouldn't they be living in some mutual commune?
This makes no sense.
he's larping.
Nobody should be making more than $50 an hour, no matter what your job is. You can't refute this.
>thinking $65k is remotely decent in california
this thread was made by a hick or a third worlder
that's pretty shit pay but they produce nothing of value so who fricking cares. it could maybe be livable if these idiots didn't live in california or have shitloads of student debt from their useless degrees
the real question is what the frick the ~~*unions*~~ are doing for them if their pay is that bad already. I get paid twice that for writing code and don't even have a union to bargain for me.
Considering that 80% of the movies released in the last 20 years are trash and copy pasted they are getting more than they deserve
script writers can make more than that selling stories that never even make it to production
80% of movies released ever are trash. We only have nostalgia because of survivorship bias. Same for music and literature.
>movies that came out when I was a child are better than movies that came out when I was an adult
Welcome to adulthood Anon.
why would I EVER want an obese, purple haired misshapen nonbinary blinkerfluid woketard muttoid, who wants to kill all straight white people/men, to be able to earn good money by writing the worst fictional dialogue humans have ever seen since acting has been invented?
good question
>started making $27k
>now making $95k
wagmi
$65k/yr for 3 months of work is tough! Pay me more, Mom and Dad have a bigger house than me I'm going insaaaaaane. Send more 5-star Yelp GrubHub to the picket line I'm famished!
65k in Cali is like 30k in a flyover state
so let's see
1) fringe freaks keep monetizing their hatred for normal people and we get shit tv shows and movies
2) AI writes shit tv shows and movies BUT the fringe freaks starve or have to find an actual job
or even
3) AI writes derivative but ideologically neutral tv shows and movies
mmmmh
mmmmmmmmmh
let me think a little more on this
mmmmmmmmmmmmmh
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmh
>makes as much as the average American worker to write scripts that the average American worker could easily replicate
I see no issue.
That's poverty wages on the west coast.
That's in California wages? For LA and the surrounding areas 65k isn't that much
Oh shit I didn't think of that. Pretty sure you're the first person to mention this ITT.
For the garage they write, that is very fair compensation
>garage they write
And this is why you are not writer!
Got his ass.
How many are israeli?
Ummmmmmm that’s not important chud stop noticing
Enough that it’s an issue
do those writers work 40 hours a week? I doubt it, they should get a second job
I make 130K and I barely get by.
you are doing something wrong, even if I bet this is before taxes and other mandatory expenses, so you probably make 90k net
mo' money, mo' problems
Did you get ass raped by divorce and child support?
i bet this is horribly skewed by free-lance writers and things like that. It doesn't mention anything about guild members.
The fact that they feel the need to post shit like this to go like "NO SEE?! WE'RE SUPER POOR GUYS, FOR REAL!" is all the proof I need that they don't need any more money. No one questioned the genuine needs of rail workers during their strike. Wonder why it's different for writers who choose a very competitive field and live in one of the most expensive places in the world
people question the needs of workers striking all of the time lol, especially when most media outlets are owned by companies that are trying to crush those strikes. for the wga/sag strikes, i haven't really seen any rich hollywood people say that they're personally struggling; it's mostly people who are probably making median pay and lower. don't get me wrong, i hate hollywood millionaires as much as the next guy, i've mostly just been seeing them talk about solidarity and not about "pay me specifically more."
Like I said, I didn't see any striking rail workers desperately trying to justify why they needed more money and most of the public was on their side. It was basically just Biden/DNC that turned them down.
I don't just hate millionaire writers, I hate all of them. They're mostly elitist snobs who are now crying because they refuse to move to a real profession or to somewhere affordable.
any time striking workers have a platform, they use it to talk about why their demands should be met. "the rail companies need to give us more vacation time because we get 0 days of vacation time" is not that dissimilar from "i should be getting paid more than $50 for a 16 hour workday," both of them are "justifying" why they need more money/better workers rights. i imagine plenty of lower-paid writers/actors would move out of hollywood if they could but that is geographically the most likely place for them to live to get consistent work. if you don't value film as a medium, why are you on a board focusing on film? i don't think video games are art so i never go on Cinemaphile
>if you don't value film as a medium, why are you on a board focusing on film?
"If you don't like the chef literally shitting on your plate, why are you on Cinemaphile?!?!"
Again, I hope these hacks starve
"i hate all writers" and "i hate bad/overpaid writers" are different statements, anon
Well it seems bad writers who hate me and everything I believe are the only ones working in the industry. Until I see evidence to the contrary, they're the same statement to me. Maybe once all these losers go broke and move to "muh fly over states," some people less evil will get their jobs
what are some of your favorite films?
None of your business and it would be irrelevant to the point you cant debate on its face.
what makes you think that your favorite films don't have similar trappings of modern ones? it'd be unusual if every single creative was bad now and yet there were plenty that were not bad a few years ago.
>No dude, the industry was always dominated by people who hate you!
Keep coping while I continue to laugh at homeless writers
i don't know what your exact beliefs or dispositions are. there's been a lot of israeli people in hollywood since hollywood existed, a lot of times the people working in it were socially progressive for their era on average, the richest were still rich and lived in gated communities like they do now, etc. if you genuinely believe everyone in the industry hates you now, why not expand that to every year since its creation?
I don't think that argument is as good as you think it is. At best, you're just convincing me that hollywood has always been bad, so why should I care either way?
i'm saying that whatever basis you have for thinking hollywood is bad now would probably be true of hollywood either retroactively or would be true if you were the age you are now during that time. and if that is the case, i have no idea why you would be on a forum nominally about film.
I like old media and it entertains me laugh at and relish in the pain of those responsible for what it's become.
You just don't like it ends this way.
Man, it is impressive how only 58 writers create everything produced by Hollywood.
>34
>about to begin a job that pays $65k starting
>I only made $45k at my previous job
>every job before that I never made more than $40k
It's interesting how a lot of money to me is basically nothing to these people.
It’s all relative anon. Be happy with your new job and keep striving for more.
Thanks. Same to you, my friend.
that's a lot considering the quality of writing coming out of hollywood
the problem is that they live in the shithole of california where 65k is like a 30k salary everywhere else
They're the ones that voted for those policies, they shouldn't be rewarded and in fact they should be banned from ever moving to other states.
That's quite low for the US. What's the entry pay for an IT dev in California? Probably 100k minimum.
>That's quite low for the US.
>That's a pretty small amount of food, I'd say
65 thousand US dollars to churn out the absolute garbage that is modern television writing?
That's far too generous.
The writers strike is a meme. Writers are not being replaced by AI, at least not all of them. Good writers will make a better script than AI, a good script will lead to a better show/film, a better show/film will lead to a better audience reception and more money. Hollywood is not going to fire all writers, so they can get a worse product written by AI since they’ll make less money that way. I’m the grand scheme of things writers are cheap and more than make up for their costs. So this whole idea that AI will replace writers is false, that’s not happening.
What’s happening is that writers are going to be laid off, because there’s too many. Watch this video and just listen to what the writers union themselves say. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s02VWyRA__M
They flat out tell us that writers rooms have 12+ people in them. That is ridiculous, you do not need 12 writers for a show. Large writer rooms like this are a primary reason why writing is so bad today, you have so many people giving their own ideas and muddying the waters that you lose direction and a clear goal/objective. Hollywood knows this, they know the writing is poor, they know it’s hurting their products, and they want to correct it. Another thing the writers union said is that if you decrease the number of writers then the 2-4 that get hired won’t be women, minorities, or queers, which means they’re literally admitting that writers room are full of incompetent diversity hires. No wonder everything has such a progressive bias and agenda.
Quite frankly I see no reason why writers rooms need so many writers and I am all for getting rid of the bloat and diversity hires. I could care less about the studios and their money, I just want better television and film, and this will help us get that. I don’t understand why anyone supports these writers, they’re bad at their job and a lot of them deserve to be laid off. If you want better movies and shows we need smaller writer rooms
Writers rooms have been crowded for decades, the fricking WWE has a team of 20+ writers.
"AI will replace writers" is hyperbole at this point, but you can't deny that AI was the catalyst for these worthless fricks finally having to tighten their belts.
Nah, AI is literally irrelevant. How much does it cost to hire 2-4 good writers for 3/4 months? That’s all you need to create a well written show. A few good writers will theoretically make a much better product than something written by AI, and even though a few good writers cost more they’ll make way more profit from a better written show because it’ll get more viewers or sell more tickets. The writers are just using AI as a scapegoat because it’s way better optics for them to say “they’re trying to replace writers with AI” than it is for them to say “they’re trying to fire the shitty writers bloating writer rooms and making scripts worse!”. In the video I posted the writers union themselves said they’re trying to go from 12 writers to 2 and I truly hope that happens because we’ll get much better television and film. Those 2 writers will be way more likely to be quality ones, and even if they’re shitty ones at least it won’t be as bad because it won’t be a too many cooks type situation.
>you do not need 12 writers for a show.
I don't get why you need 12 writers in a show, only maybe if you are doing live scripted television or a daily soap opera like The Bold and the Beautiful. There is no reason for normal tv shows, or movies to have more than 1 writer, a writing room should be composed by 1-2 writers max, an editor that might act as a support writer and the director, that like the editor proofreads the material, nothing more
>people trying to shift blame past Californians
no, YOU MAKE YOUR BED, YOU SLEEP IN IT
im sorry California and Illinois are failed states where the Fed is going to have to eventually bail out the moronic state govts and the moronic state govt employees and former state employees INSANE 6 digit pensions that should have never been promised except for the commie corrupt fricks democrats are
FRICK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Wait? You're telling me that the median writer in the biggest media town on earth make a lot of money? No way, why is this allowed? Why don't they make cornerstore clerk levels of money? So unfair, we have to stop this!
65k isn’t a lot. You can’t buy a house in any city in the country on that.
I live 30 minutes from Gary, Indiana. You can absolutely buy a house there for $65k or less. You will also very likely be murdered within a month of moving in.
But you're not supposed to be able to buy a house outright in America. 2/3rds of Americans have mortgages.
*2/3rds of American homeowners
I’m not talking about buying outright, moron. 65k isn’t enough to even qualify for the loan in any normal city. I couldn’t afford the house I bought six years ago today, and it’s in a ghetto shithole.
My friend, don't blame me for your post being unclear.
And yes, you can absolutely qualify for a $200k loan on a $65k salary. And $200k is enough to buy a decent starter home in many parts of the country.
Ya idk what he’s talking about, 65k is a 20% down payment on a 325k home. Can get you a decent house in many parts of the country.
>put your entire pretaxes annual salary into a down payment on a house
?
>dude just go into massive debt lmao
Americans can be very funny sometimes.
I said city, not "many parts of the country". Show me one city with $200k houses that isn't a post-apocalyptic Black person hole. Charleston median home prices are 560k. That's the poorest state in the country. Fricking brainless moron.
didn't you say you live in a ghetto shithole though? interesting that
yes, like most cities, and the cheapest housse in this ghetto shithole go for 400k. Proving my point even more and making you look like more of a moron. Interesting that
i was pretending to be that other anon and joking
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>I NNNEEEEDDDD to live in the city. i just love the hustle and bustle
LMAO, enjoying being poor your whole life and being robbed and murdered by homies.
Should've studied harder in school and you wouldn't live in the "ghetto shithole" with black people. You don't play the game very well, do you?
>Gary, Indiana
i drove through Gary once leaving Chicago. i swear to god i drove past a borg cube, and the entire city smelled like a tire fire. i don't think people live in Gary, only shades.
Mad coastie lol
>*dies from fentanyl overdose*
>instant-reply
ya he mad yall
This kind of rhetoric is exactly why no one from the majority of the country cares about the poor widdle writers
Reap what you sow, coastie
They need to implement an audition system for writers and also max the writers room to 3 people instead of 20 nepo babies
Why doesn't Hollywood just hire 2 or 3 really good writers and pay them more instead of hiring 20 nepo baby writers with 0 publications? Is there a mandate or some shit where they need to hire the executives cousin?
That’s what they’re trying to do which is why the union is striking, because it’s made up primarily of inept nepo and diversity hires.
most of them would be the wrong skin color
The union won’t let them do that because then women, queers, and minorities won’t be hired (because you can’t hire diversity quotas when you only have 2 writers!)
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65,000 doesn't seem a lot for LA.
65k is nothing in LA but then again i respect LA's homeless more than i respect LA's writers, they'd probably write more interesting stories too
barely above poverty in lost angeles
definitely can't afford a house or anything
They’re just like government workers I fricking hate it
Has anyone said "65k in Hollywood!? That's not that much!" yet?
Honestly i'm not with any side on this argument.
FRICK corporations. I will never take the side of a corporate entity so long as I live. They're all greedy scum.
But also FRICK writers. You get paid thousands upon thousands to do piss easy work while hard workers who build up society can paid in pennies or they get paid well but they have ACTUAL expenses that aren't
>NOOOO I HAVE TO GET THE NEWEST HECKIN TESLARINO!!!!! SO WHAT IF I ALREADY HAVE 3 CARS!! PAY ME MORE DISNEY!!!!
We can only hope that Hollywood crashes and burns. I hope all the studios go bankrupt and close down and I hope all the actors and writers have a humble experience getting real jobs. Good luck flipping burgers because you're pushing 40 and the only thing you can put on your resume is
>actor
high risk
high reward
How do people who make $32 an hour manage to convince dumb poor people making $10 an hour that they're not being payed enough while ignoring how little the poors themselves get paid and doing nothing to help them. Is it mental illness?
anon... but I have to type all day, you don't have any idea how hard it is, compared to lifting bags of cement all day...
50k a year is nothing if you live in California, especially LA. One person with that salary can afford to live in a 1 bedroom apartment (and not a very good one) but anything past that would require another income stream.
That's not a lot in Cali after you split it with your agent and the taxman.
>it's finally coming out that cuckservatives are upset the writers have middle class jobs because they work at mcdonalds.
ah it finally makes sense. Nobody should have middle class jobs they like that's why we should simp for the corporations that make billions of dollars. Right wingers are such buck broken losers
i make 6 figures. i'm honestly suprised they top out at a little over half my salary. i don't even feel like i make a ton in my own field
The average yearly salary for an entry level McDonalds employee is 40k. Youre barely making more. Cope.
Is this true? My understanding is they get paid a decent hourly wage but very few employees get a ton of hours
I wouldnt know Ive never worked at a mackers and Ill never sink so low
Ah yes, libtards NEVER whine about certain people making a lot of money
>I'm still going to try being an elitist while whoring for moral support and pretending to be poor
why are they like this lol
>65k
>middle class
you obviously make less than 65k if you think this
>middle class
is fricking dead
$65k is twice the average pay in the US, its a fair amount, youre just spoiled.
Jesus frick, are people really that poor? That's actually depressing. I hear 40% of you don't even have savings.
This was your only victory in the past 10 years and it was completely undone lol
When did Hillary become president?
I make pretty much the same doing jack shit in an office job I got from my family.
>based on 58 salaries
So frick all data, basically
Class infighting is why we're so fricked as a society.
No poltard Biden didn't print 80% of US dollars and shut down supply lines.
No poltard Gen X flipping cheap houses isn't da boomers.
The studios should charge them to use those shitty scripts they've been plopping out
lol cool. I make more money working armed security at a rolex store in Beverly Hills than a Hollywood writer. Although it can be a bit butthole clenching at times when you see a mob of black men wearing hoodies walking right towards you.
>65k is a lot
It's frick all
I wish I could do more to lower their wages or not get them hired more
is my take on this subject
Creative AI is a meme. Make an AI that can create something truly original and you'd be a billionaire. Best that AI can do in the foreseeable future is copy things already made. Granted that'll put 95% of "creatives" out of work but still.