Those who defend the special editions

Fricking why? Explain yourselves

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Star Wars was apparently saved in editing, so why do OTgays hate this?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      ...do you even know what people mean when they say that? Do you know the difference between editing strips of film vs. going back and changing a film decades later?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Star Wars was saved in editing
      This is hilariously stupid if you think about it even a little bit. Every movie is saved in editing, editing makes or breaks a movie.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Contrarians, shitposters, literal children, who cares? Just them liking padding the runtime and adding more CGI dinosaurs and dance numbers should be enough for you to not care what their reasoning is.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I saw ROTJ with a live orchestra accompaniment last night, and as someone who's only watched Harmy/4k83 for the past 15 years I forgot how bad and obtrusive the changes are. Vader's NOOOOOOO ruins a moment that perfectly communicates the emotional and narrative intent through the music, and George fricked with it.

      It was fricking hilarious when Jedi Rocks happened and the orchestra just stopped and let the shitty CGI dance number play out while the theater was otherwise filled with an uncomfortable silence, or when the 65 year old boomer lady sitting next to me was utterly confused when Hayden Christensen showed up and she had no idea who the frick he was

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Stop questioning George's vision OP, no one's allowed to criticize his choices.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They did this because there were two droids who waltzed past camera instead but that didn't make sense since they're supposed to be looking for droids

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe they already checked them? You can still see droids in the background

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They did this because there were two droids who waltzed past camera instead but that didn't make sense since they're supposed to be looking for droids

      Maybe they already checked them? You can still see droids in the background

      The original shot wasn't much better

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >small droid that only covers up small sections of the shot
        vs
        >a ten foot lizard that covers the entire shot of when they enter

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Two droids go by and obscure the shot. I won't argue the fat lizzer ass made it worse, but it's not like he's ruining a great shot either. The whole thing was terribly done. Likely they were trying to hide some equipment for the speeder they missed during shooting.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            And it's so much more distracting now since it's a CG lizard

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        That is much better

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >a well made prop blocking 1/3 of the screen
        vs
        >A CGI monster blocking 100% of the screen

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          It's still a bad shot. It also happens twice.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They did this because there were two droids who waltzed past camera instead but that didn't make sense since they're supposed to be looking for droids

      Kek, that’s almost as autistic as adding a CGI rock to make R2D2 more hidden

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    BUT MUH CANON!! IT WAS CANON BUT THEN IT GOT CHANGED SO I MUST FOLLOW THE NEW CANON!!

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >This was how Anakin looked when he became Darth Vader
    >Obia Wan says in ROTJ that Anakin died the moment he became Vader
    Makes sense that he'd look like Hayden

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Anakin and Vader aren't two separate people homie

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The persona of Anakin was destroyed once he became Darth Vader, so it makes sense that his Force ghost would take the appearance of him when he was still a Jedi rather than his older form which was devoted to the Dark side.

      Did Anakin not return in his last moments? Luke has no idea what his father looked like as a young man, he wouldn't recognize him. It's also incredibly confusing to an audience that watches in release order, as they should.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >It's also incredibly confusing to an audience that watches in release order, as they should.

        George's intent was that they be watched from Episode 1-6 once the prequels were released, hence why this specific change was made after RotS.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          that's fricking moronic and the entire prequel trilogy is built around the audience's understanding of where the events are leading to

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            No they aren't. Just because you experienced them that way doesn't mean that was the intention.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Then why didn't he make the prequels first, moron? Star Wars being """"the story of Darth Vader, the Chosen One™"""" was a prequel retcon that has no basis in the OT. Anakin and Vader weren't even the same person until the second movie. Saying that the "intent" was for the prequels to be made first is ridiculous when they weren't made until decades later

              You're quoting verbatim from that "prequels are better than you deserve" autismo aren't you lmao

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Saying that the "intent" was for the prequels to be made first

                I didn't say that. The OT was created first, then he created the prequels with the intent that you should watch them 1-6.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                but the prequels are FULL of le epic dramatic irony moments. You're supposed to go OMG IT'S THE DEATH STAR when you see the plans in episode 2. The entire idea of the chosen one prophecy is predicated in your understanding that Vader will destroy the Emperor. Obiwan goes WHY DO I GET THE FEELING YOU'LL BE THE DEATH OF ME and it's a funny joke because you know anakin does kill him

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                None of those moments require foreknowledge of what happens in the OT. Dramatic irony doesn't require that either.

                Sure, you can view it that way if you've seen the OT first, but they still work as foreshadowing if you watch the prequels first.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                They really don't, though. The entire structure of the story becomes unwieldy if they're watched in numerical order.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    just watch the de-specialized versions moron

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The persona of Anakin was destroyed once he became Darth Vader, so it makes sense that his Force ghost would take the appearance of him when he was still a Jedi rather than his older form which was devoted to the Dark side.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      He turned good right before he died though

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Doing one good thing to save his son doesn't erase all the evil things he did as Darth Vader.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Then why would he appear as a force ghost at all?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Because Anakin wasn't evil. Darth Vader was.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              But he obviously killed people and did some fricked up things before he was dubbed Vader.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                So did Obi-Wan. That doesn't mean they're evil.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Still doesn't make sense since he becomes "Anakin" again right before his death

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                He doesn't.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yes he does, he's snapped out of being Vader and realizes his love for his children, and defeats the evil that intends on killing them.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Tell your sister...you were right about me.
                >Oh wait, no, I'm not actually Anakin here, I'm just dumb dopey Darth Vader here and I can only be actualized as the true TRUE and HONEST Anakin Skywalker™ if I manifest as a 22 year old N*Sync reject

                I hate prequel autismos so goddamn much it's unreal.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yes he does, he's snapped out of being Vader and realizes his love for his children, and defeats the evil that intends on killing them.

                He certainly isn't called Anakin. His Force ghost takes the form of how he looked when he was last associated with the Jedi, because he isn't when he died.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                he RETURNED to the light

                the movie is called RETURN of the JEDI

                When Darth Vader saved his son's life and destroyed the Emperor, he became Anakin Skywalker once again, and died as Anakin, not Vader.

                and trying to totally disassociate Anakin and Vader as separate individuals was always moronic and people doing way too much of a literal reading of Obiwan's "certain point of view" rationalization for his lie.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >RETURN of the JEDI

                Yeah, Luke is the Jedi who represents their return, not Vader.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                And "JEDI" meant the organization. Luke was the first Jedi to appear since Order 66 and ObiWan and Yoda went into hiding.
                Well at least, thats how it was written. Now Jedi are everywhere and everyone uses the force and this guy looks dumber every single time Disney shits out a new series.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                This was a problem LONG before Disney. There were tons of original jedi do not steal who survived the Purge in the Old EU, and George is the one who decided to make the Clone Wars not even 20 years before the original film

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Old EU
                Never canon, Lucas always said "it can exist but if I make a movie that contradicts it, it's not canon anymore"
                The Clone Wars were always 18 year before a new hope, how would Anakin have fathered kids after getting his dick burned off?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >calls Vader a sorcerer
                >makes fun of his religion

                Nothing in that scene indicates that he doesn't believe that Vader has special abilities or that they don't exist in the galaxy at large. He's just insulting Vader for failing to recover the Death Star plans and devoting himself to an all but extinct religion.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                So if Vader died without saving Luke, Anakin still would've become a force ghost?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        Did Anakin not return in his last moments? Luke has no idea what his father looked like as a young man, he wouldn't recognize him. It's also incredibly confusing to an audience that watches in release order, as they should.

        >Did Anakin not return in his last moments?
        By that logic, the force ghost should have been the fricked up burnt Anakin in the Vader suit

        [...]
        Did Anakin not return in his last moments? Luke has no idea what his father looked like as a young man, he wouldn't recognize him. It's also incredibly confusing to an audience that watches in release order, as they should.

        >Luke has no idea what his father looked like as a young man, he wouldn't recognize him
        He wouldn't have recognised his father without all the disfurgements either. Besides, the force would just tell him anyway.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I like the entire saga and all six movies and the special editions make them more coherent. Darth Vader killed Anakin so it makes sense for the ghost to be young Anakin. Even the shitty CGI I like because I just like the coherency and I don't take the movies that seriously

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >hurr durr I love shitty CGI characters shoved into a film from the 70s

      literal mind of a downie child

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I don't love it it's just more coherent with the CGI infested newer movies

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      she would give some nice footjobs

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I am sexually attracted to Hayden

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    your pic is not from the original special edition though

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's easy if you don't think about it and try to pretend that it's good.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Star wars is a gay ass children's film, the last time I tried to watch it I was 14 and had to turn it off it was just so bad to watch.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Why be a homosexual dishonest contrarian like this lol? The original trilogy was a cultural phenomena beloved by all ages at the time. It's gotten worse with each new installment yes, but your statement is just a flat out lie. LOL kys.

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The only special edition change I prefer is the Victory Celebration replacing Yub Nub. Yub Nub is fricking trash.

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Anakin's gone
    >I am what remains
    >You didn't kill Anakin Skywalker
    >I did
    They literally JUST spelled it out for you autistic morons
    Anakin died the moment the helmet sealed for the first time in RoTS

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Vader is literally trying to tell Luke the same thing on the bridge. He's coping and he's full of shit so he doesn't have to take responsibility for himself.

      You gays will jump through any hoop to justify your pretty boy gay husbando being shoved into a movie released two decades before he was even involved in the franchise, lmao

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >He's coping and he's full of shit
        >You gays will jump through any hoop
        You literally just did the same thing to support your own opinion
        There is no proof that he is full of shit there

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >There is no proof that he is full of shit here

          Uhhhh maybe the part when Luke tells Vader he's full of shit, he can feel the conflict within him, and that the Emperor hasn't driven Anakin Skywalker from Vader completely? And you know, when Luke is proven right at the end of the movie when Anakin Skywalker destroys the Emperor to save his son?

          Holy frick I hate prequel autismos so FRICKING MUCH, they have such a chip on their shoulders about Disney but basedface over the butchering of the OT and show a fundamental misunderstanding and ignorance as to what is actually happening in the films. Disgusting.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >if Luke says it then it must be true
            Listen old man, you can pretend that you're the only one who understand the movies, but you're only embarrassing yourself.
            You forgot that immediately after that scene, Vader threatens Leia and tries to kill Luke for twenty goddamn minutes.
            It's only after he's beaten into submission and spared that he realizes Luke has to be saved from the Emperor.
            He was more than happy to slice Luke in half right up until that moment, and nearly did so on multiple occasions.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >He was more than happy to slice Luke in half right up until that moment, and nearly did so on multiple occasions.

              Throughout the ENTIRE fight Luke is saying that Vader's heart isn't in it, and the conflict within him is tearing him apart. Sheev questions Vader's motivations earlier in the film. Have you even fricking SEEN RotJ, Black person?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Have you even fricking SEEN RotJ
                You know the answer to this is no. Most of these guys watched it maybe once then decided it wasn't as good as RotS and went back to their circlejerks.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Have you even fricking SEEN RotJ, Black person?
                Have YOU?
                >"If you will not fight, then you shall meet your destiny!"
                >throws lightsaber at Luke
                >Luke barely dodges it
                He tried to kill him right fricking there, what are you on about?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >pink lightsaber

                absolute STATE of special edition Black folk lmao

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Nice refutation homosexual
                I accept your concession

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I don't take any stock in George's understanding of the OT when he fricked up the color correction this badly lmao

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >4K83
                >desaturated colors
                >unnatural light falloff from the blade
                Wow you're really selling me on the superiority of the originals here you fricking moron

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >yes I love Vader waving around a big saturated magenta dildo

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >NOOOOO IT'S NOT THE PRECISE COLOR I SAW WHEN I SAW SEVEN YEARS OLD
                You really have this little going on in your life?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >haha film is a visual medium who cares what it looks like, who cares if it makes the Emperor's throne room look like there's a big bright blue light covering everything, who cares if the iconic lightsabers are the right colors, you even LIKE movies? haha fricking loser

                absolute state of prequel autismos

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >he says this as he keeps posting washed out screenshots from a fan-edit
                Embarrassing

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >fan-edit

                it's literally scans of original 35mm prints, lol. It's Harmy's Despecialized that's the frankenstein's monster of the laserdiscs, GOUT, and the hideous Blu rays

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Well we can both agree that Harmy is a moron, but I'm trying to tell you that something is fricked with your copies of the scans
                They're desaturated as frick
                I've got the same 4K77 right here and it's nowhere near as grey as yours

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                My copy of original Star Wars is the DNR version, because when I downloaded it I was a dumb kid and didn't know better

                I'll get the proper non-DNR version by the time I watch the movie again

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                When you don't Mew for 10 minutes

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >NOOOOO IT'S NOT THE PRECISE COLOR I SAW WHEN I SAW SEVEN YEARS OLD
                You really have this little going on in your life?

                >he says this as he keeps posting washed out screenshots from a fan-edit
                Embarrassing

                Haha I love Ben and Han having bright red skin, it's EPIC, bravo George

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Not sure where you got that one but their skin is fine in the 2004 edition.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        In Jedi it's far more nuanced too.
        Vader never says Anakin is dead, he says "That NAME no longer has any meaning to me"
        Luke is the one who ultimately says "Then my father is truly dead.", likely more to stir the doubt he already feels in Vader and call him on his bullshit.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because the prequels are great so it’s nice they get appreciation in the trilogy they improved upon

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      How did the prequels improve upon the original trilogy in any meaningful way?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Palpatine

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Apart from Greedo shooting first and Vader's NOOOOOO in RotJ, I don't have any major problems with the changes, but I prefer the originals.

    That said, I respect an artist's right to make changes to their work, even if I disagree with them.

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I think they should refilm this with older Hayden

    They won't of course

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Ian McDiarmid being in Empire is better than him not being in it.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >snoring through his lines in the awful Revenge of the Sith makeup and the dialogue changes seem to imply Vader doesn't realize Luke is his son

      yeah I get it it's epic when you saw the guy you recognized but the Emperor is supposed to be shrouded in mystery at this point

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >the dialogue changes seem to imply Vader doesn't realize Luke is his son
        No, he's hiding his knowledge from the Empire. He's been looking for Luke for like two years because he's the rebel who blew up their base, but he also knew he was his son.

        Also in my defense, my dumbass kid self watched Jedi before Empire, so the mystery of the Emperor was already revealed to me in that movie.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >snoring through his lines in the awful Revenge of the Sith makeup and the dialogue changes seem to imply Vader doesn't realize Luke is his son

      yeah I get it it's epic when you saw the guy you recognized but the Emperor is supposed to be shrouded in mystery at this point

      >NOOOOOOO IT'S NOT THE PUPPET I SAW AS A KID!!!
      I really don't get this mindset

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Chimp lady looks better than the shitty Revenge of the Sith makeup

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >yet another star wars thread
    when does it end

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Never. Disney shills get paid to do this all day.

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    George's autism cannot be comprehended by mere mortals

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    zoom zoom

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The Special editions in and off themselves aren't bad, it's the fact that the originals are not available

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Anon, there's this thing called humor....autists have trouble with it.

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why did Anakin revert to his youngling slayer appearance? What did the Force mean by this?

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Sebastian Shaw works as burnt Anakin, but he looks dumb as a force ghost. Then man was like 70 years old, but the character was in his 40s.
    The ghost should just be Hayden Christensen but how he looks now, I suppose.

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The effects that matter look way better, and very few of the silly changes like alien critters running around actually matter. Only really terrible change is Maclunkey and Greedo shooting first.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      and Vader shouting no in 'jedi'

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Why does Vader yell in pain when his fake arm is cut off?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >the effects that matter look way better

      1996 CGI Xwings look worse than the models

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