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the original cover said that "size matters" and I read it outloud in Walmart and had my dad get really mad at me. it's one of the last things i remember before he offed himself
sorry for asking but do you think he did it because he was insecure about his size?
in all seriousness, it probably was a concern for him and I didn't even think about that at the time. i was mocking a stupid slogan; not my fault if he took it literally
that's honestly pretty rough. I have it hard sometimes but man I am so thankful that despite all my problems in my life I am good looking and have a nice dick. Not trying to kid but its really important to count your blessings. Sorry you had to go through that. If you want I can post my dick in the thread if it will help you feel better. Its good to remind yourself that people with big dicks exist and we too have problems
Your mom was cheating on him with a black guy
No, you're just a projecting mutt cuckold.
Statistically blacks & whites have the same average penis size but with different standard deviations.
The obvious truth is he offed himself because he had a homosexual like you for a son. Never forget that.
Also you just admitted to having small dick genes.
>wife yells at me to make myself useful
>calls me "lil guy" before I head out
>take my son to walmart
>cant stop thinking about my b***h wife
>"if only I had a big dick"
>pass by the dvd aisle
>son starts having an autism fit
>"SIZE MATTERS"
>what did you just say?
>"Haha! Size matters, dad!"
>tell my 9 y.o son to shut the frick up
>we eat goyslop at the food court
>both go to the bathroom
>son takes the urinal next to mine
>*unzips* he looks down at mine, laughs
>"size matters, dad"
>son has a third leg
>tfw
Kino
9/11 but with dinosaurs
>9/11 but with dinosaurs
No I'm disappointed there was no sequel. Imagine how berserk Murica would've gone in the aftermath of those events.
>No I'm disappointed there was no sequel
I'm sad the planned sequel never happened. To not have an official Godzilla monster named "the Queen b***h" is one of the greatest missed opportunities of all time.
I'll never understand why people shit on this film. It's so fricking good. So many iconic scenes with fantastic casting and writing, and the special effects are some of the best I've ever seen.
because they completely changed godzillas design and he didnt fight other giant monsters.
godzillas fanbase, even back then, is incredibly autistic and hyper sensitive to even the slightest deviation from its formula, especially when it comes to the "guy in a suit" proportions and look
Even normies didn't buy it. The merch tanked so hard that Random House pulled the plug on all their Godzilla books and Trendmasters went bankrupt from all the unsold plastic lizards and "Matthew Broderick with missile launcher" action figures.
no homosexual
Yeah dude, movie is better than any modern american godzilla.
Still yet, it doesn't top the original amerikino.
Because Godzilla was to slim and the autisc fans want fatzilla looking line an obvious dude in a suit
No, it was because Godzilla was a cowardly b***h that ran from the military, couldn't actually breath fire, and died to helicopter missiles. The autistic fans accepted the design when it was attached to a cartoon where that Godzilla could breath fire and was a chad that actually fought monsters.
Could've been good if it was named something else. I'd never watch a godzilla mavie but I'd watch more movies with this creature in them.
This scene stuck out to me as a kid because he spazzed out about the flame but Zilla didn't breath fire or vapor or a laser once
'Zill breathed fire twice in his film.
* 'Zilla roared as cars exploded in front of him twice in his film.
As a man who simply watched the film, I'm not going to argue fantasy Godzilla fictional lore about the giant bipedal iguana and the flames that appeared in front of his open mouth during aggressive confrontation.
Claim it's cinematography, claim it's vfx, claim it's whatever you want. The creature in that film "breathed fire" twice.
The script called it a power breath, just a gassy loud roar. They added the "causes cars to blow up" effect because the word got out from test screenings that there wasn't an actual atomic breath, so they slapped that in to appease fans.
did not
genuinely hoping you can prove me wrong but, I watched it a bunch as a kid and went back and rewatched it a few times when I was older and don't remember that
The only time I remember him having an attack like that were the show and the Rulers of Earth comic
I recall a scene where there an explosion after Zilla roars with force enough to move cars but no fire attack
The lighter was just a ploy to break his hysteria and make him concentrate
Laughable nonsense with a qt curly blonde in the rain, and a rap singer stealing music over the credits
Also based Jean Reno who is the only person who read the script thoroughly
Bad movie but it has the best godzilla design. Even current year godzilla looks like a man in a costume and its really moronic, I don't care if kaiju fans love the faithful design.
That's a lotta fish!
I can't believe they did that twice
Piece of shit movie
1998
CONS!
> Lack of classic Godzilla's aggressiveness & invulnerability.
> Arguably too much time playing Jurassic Park with the babies (I was fine with it)
> Arguably too much time spent on romance (didn't bother me the last time I watched it)
> CGI for the babies doesn't hold up.
PROS!
> God tier score & opening credits.
> Great first attack on NYC, handled in a realistic disaster manner similar to how Gamera 3 handled it although less bleakly.
> Fantastic submarine battle.
> Good Helicopter chase.
> Cool military porn that isn't ever "America frick yeah-ish"
> Godzilla's death scene is extremely well done regardless of the disappointment of him being killed by normal missiles.
> Godzilla's classic nuclear origin & nature remains intact they just swapped America for France.
> Decent to good overall cast. Reno is solid. Broderick is a bit meek but still a likable enough non annoying lead.
> Zilla's design is solid just not for being Godzilla.
> CGI for the adult Godzilla holds up reasonably well.
> Practical effects for the babies is decent (their heads are a bit oversized).
External opportunities it presented & took advantage of!
> Spawned the fantastic animated series.
External opportunities it denied us!
> It assfricked us out of the beautiful looking Stan Winston (rip) Godzilla movie.
>External opportunities it denied us!
Roger Ebert was disappointed that his parody character didn't get squashed by the monster.
That was actually veiled seethe.
>It assfricked us out of the beautiful looking Stan Winston (rip) Godzilla movie.
I like the Stan Winston Godzilla design and script, but anyone who thinks it's better than 1998 is off their rocker. 1998 has the better design, and is more true to the Japanese 1954 original, but updated to fit the 90s. The other script is more like a remake of Gamera Guardian of the Universe than a Godzilla movie, and a story like that works better with Gamera than Godzilla anyway.
Not very good, but wasnt nearly as bad as they made it out te be. For the largest part it's pretty entertaining
Most Emmerich movies are, but frickwits like Jay Bauman insist that you shouldn't like them
lots of rain
comfy
chilling in van with coffee and no croissant
Amazing Kaiju design, terrible Godzilla design
I see you saw Pointless Hub
I did haha
Just like
watched the new Patrick H Willems video
Hollywood Producers want a cut of the merch sales but Toho said no. This is the true reason why they ditch the other design and made Godzilla a bipedal iguana. They were planning to use artistic liberty so they get merch sales by claiming their godzilla has totally different posture than the original.
No, they ditched the classic design because Emmerich wanted nothing to do with the movie and thought he'd get fired off the project after presenting his lizard to Toho, but Toho execs wanted to get the project going and get that big Hollywood payout more.
It's a great movie and the only reason people dislike it is it's not like the Japanese ones
>nooo Godzilla is too thin
>where's my atomic breath
>ugh Americans just don't understand Godzilla
>he eats fish wtf?!
>how can a giant lizard fit underground that makes no sense!
>uh...rain is bad I guess?
WE CAN BE HEROES
I'M GOING DEEPER UNDERGROUND
THERE'S TOO MUCH PANIC IN THIS TOWN
WELL I GOT TO GO DEEPER
GOT TO GO MUCH DEEPER
uh huh, yeah
COME WITH ME
I'm gonna to fight you!
I'll frickin' bite you!
Can't stand nobody like you!
I had this toy from the movie as a kid ans thought it was fricking rad. KGAWWWWWW (it made that sound when you push a button)
What is it an iron?
godzilla 98 dodging apaches through a cityscape is god tier.only thing i remember about this movie and wonder why isn't replicated in newer movies.
in the new movies when godzilla charges through buildings it really seems like "why? why did you demolish that building zilla? surely going around it would be faster?"
that being said i think they realized that - him curling up and going to sleep in the coliseum was good.
them trapped in MSG full of dinos was kino too
Because Godzilla tanks everything, he doesn't need to give a shit about the military hitting him or stubbing his toe on a building unlike the b***h lizard.
I'm so glad there are good american Godzilla movies now and this will be consigned to the dustbin of history.
At least fricking Godzilla appears in it. Pic related missed me off more than any movie I've ever paid to see in theatres.
fake fan
Godzilla has had less screentime in other movies than this
I still listen to the soundtrack album
Criminally underrated.
its bad. theres some revisionism going on with it just like the prequels
>oh it isnt THAT BAD
to
>this movies actually underrated!
to
>this movie was great the whole time ackshually?!
its a vapid, ugly film that has no respect for its source material, yet ironically, only gets by on its name recognition
>completely averse to natural beauty: ugly gray new york the entire film, contrast this to the beautiful lush japanese landscapes consistently shown in the Toho films; ugly creature design (weird long and wide head with beady eyes with a huge mouth on a slender body), that scene in Final Wars where real Goji rapes Z*lla really exemplifies this)
>being a lame comedy because making a serious film about a 200 foot mutated dinosaur is silly haha, were self aware
>Z*lla doesnt have any presence, just shows up to get chased and shot at by military, not entertaining to watch as either a spectacle or disaster film
>focus on subverting and 'americanizing' Godzilla because, again, the hacks that had final say didnt respect the source material
the 2014 film is way, way, way better despite what terminal contrarians want to think
I feel like the 93 Super Mario Bros movie is a more apt comparison, especially when they have the same creature designer and the dickriding comes from a place of "It's sooo inaccurate and disrespectful to the source material that it loops around to being cool again".
sure, but I think a big difference with mario was the question "how do we do a movie based on these abstract sidescrollers in live action"; they didnt have much that could actually work. perhaps in an alternate timeline the movie actually somehow captures the essence of the material, but making it completely different and bizarro was I think a natural evolution from that question.
With Godzilla, however, everything was already layed out for them. They had the effects chops, there were already countless Godzilla films to reference, they had everything. but they didnt want to make a Godzilla movie
Mario is literally just "What if Wizard of Oz/Alice in Wonderland starred two Italian dudes instead of a e-girl?". They drafted a fantasy version of the movie with Arnold Schwarzenegger playing Bowser that was described as being tonally similar to The Princess Bride. Then the Max Headroom guys decided to throw all that shit out to make their cyberpunk version instead.
>Mario is literally just "What if Wizard of Oz/Alice in Wonderland starred two Italian dudes instead of a e-girl?".
I know Miyamoto still headcanons the Brooklyn origin, and is likely a major contributing factor the real world is a thing in the animated one, but mario shouldnt have anything to do with real life, simple as. Yoshis Island had the right idea, and since then its been forgotten about in the games, as it should.
>They drafted a fantasy version of the movie with Arnold Schwarzenegger playing Bowser that was described as being tonally similar to The Princess Bride.
come on now, it could have been better, maybe: but this is the spell for a disastrous laughingstock that both fans and audiencegoers hate all the same.
Brooklyn was always a means to incorporate all the pre-Mushroom Kingdom arcade games. You know, because what other city would have a big gorilla problem or creatures living in the sewers then New York?
>They couldn't make a live action fantasy Mario movie representative of the source material, normies would laugh
What a cuck mindset
Tbh I think what they did with the mario movie was very creative. It's like, the actual meaning of the word adaptation, rather than a 1:1 copy. It's a much more interesting movie than the animated film that came out last year, at least it does something unique. If I want a carbon copy of Mario, wouldn't I just play the game?
>the 2014 film is way, way, way better despite what terminal contrarians want to think
I know they say there are no wrong opinions, but they're wrong and so are you
Remember when Cinemaphile says something is “KlNO” its ironic.
Pure kino.
My only other point of comparison was pic related, which was so completely different I didn't know what to make of it. I think I enjoyed this one more just because of how bizarre it was.
Toho wanted to course correct after the backlash, so they made a movie where Godzilla fights an Independence Day-styled UFO that spawns a deformed Godzilla clone as a joke at Emmerich's expense.
Interesting. So when the clone Godzilla starts trying to consume real Godzilla (which is really sexual) and Godzilla just sits there getting fricked like a b***h, before finally realizing he’s had enough and blowing the things head off, this should interpreted allegorically ?
>clone Godzilla starts trying to consume real Godzilla (which is really sexual)
The clones name is Orga btw
The soundtrack is better than the movie.
The soundtrack is better than the movie.
>it's going deeper underground (there's too much panic in this town!)
Still more entertaining than most jap Godzillas
With the added bonus of it not being "random japs talking" for 85% of the runtime with a sprinkle of Godzilla appearances, which amusingly enough accounts for all the highest rated Japzilla movies
Random Simpsons actors talking isn't that much of a shift from random japs.
bawd
FULLY MODELED
Great 90s flick. People hate on it because it was a misrepresentation of Godzilla, which is a fair reason to dislike it, but that doesn't make it a bad movie. Awesome fx, great sound design, great camera work, very suspenseful, great cast. IMO Zilla is scarier because he is just a giant dinosaur lizard that hauls ass wherever he wants. In some sense that is believable. Godzilla by comparison moves slow as frick and has unrealistic anime super powers.
That's why he's called Godzilla and not Sciencezilla
The two main characters were the worst part
Godzilla design was bad
Otherwise it’s a solid popcorn flick
>thoughts
Solid Godzilla. Great design. Actually used man in suit for a scene or two.
Should've been a series.
One of the best Godzillas ever.
singlehandedly caused me to associate french with cool
This, Jean Reno is awesome.
Toho actually wanted him back for Final Wars when they were looking for non Japanese actors to play Captain Gordon.
>the coolest French dude is a spaniard
ok film
>"There's a living creature the size of the Chrysler Building burrowing around underneath New York City (not even all that deep, it's using subway and sewer tunnels) and WE HAVE NO WAY TO FIND IT."
>This giant animal hauling ass through the city on rainy days and nights strongly resembling our new understanding of dinosaurs as warm-blooded active creatures is cold blooded and can't be hit with heat seeking missiles.
An amazing remake.
Of The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms.
A good monster movie but a bad Godzilla movie. Even as a kid I felt something was off and was more drawn to the more upright Japanese design despite 98' being my first "Godzilla" movie. My only other exposure to Godzilla was the wii game Unleashed, but those designs were so much cooler.
I remember this review I read of the movie once years ago. It said, even if you pretend this isn't a Godzilla movie and it's just some random giant monster movie, it's still awful. The whole point of giant monster movies is "Bullets can't stop it! Armies are useless! Whole cities are reduced to ashes!" And the monster in this movie spends the entire time running and hiding because we're actually quite capable of killing the shit out of it, even though all it wants to do is eat and have babies. How fun would Independence Day be if regular soldiers and tanks could just shoot the UFOs out of the sky?
KINO. I was there at the release. Had a ton of toys and watched the tv show.
>Its gojira you moron!
KINO
Better than modern Godzilla films
pdiddy is a Black person
I don't care, I have no nostalgia for it, my introduction to Godzilla was the 2000 movie
It's kino. It's something I watched a lot as a kid, and it's shocking to find out that, as I grew older, it's still a fun and entertaining, albeit brainless, two-hour popcorn flick. It's not a Godzilla movie, and yet it never will be, and it didn't need to be in order to be over-the-top entertaining. Then again, Roland Emmerich's movies have been brainless popcorn entertainment similar to Michael Bay's movies.
'Zilla was the shit.
>tfw this thread hasn't talked about its animated series that followed up months after the film's release
come on Cinemaphile, that one was based
Started watching the other day, just finished the episode with the dude who summoned a weird electric monster in his sleep.
Agreed.
I wonder if people are actively trying to avoid mentioning the American cartoon out of spite or plain ignorance (youth).
So it goes like this
1) the cars are already on fire in the distance
Zilla tactically waits for the pursuing military vehicles to get into range by the cars
when they're in range, you see a "power breath" type wave come frim his mouth
I think it's a more than that though
4) the flames from the car catch on the power breath and grow
and you can also see, inside of the mouth the meat/tongue is also glowing, and seem to be glowing from the inside
It all becomes a massive jet of flame that sweeps over the vehichles
I'm thinking its just similar to how in Shin Godzilla, he released all of that gas before it ignited into flames, then powered up into the laser
Fire isn't just flame(light), it's heat too so maybe he's got a heated gas thing going on
>Fire isn't just flame(light), it's heat too so maybe he's got a heated gas thing going on
In the original script, he just roared loudly and the gust of wind from his lungs was enough to blow over tanks and cars (you can see a remnant of this version in the alley way scene when he roars at Nick and co.) and was referred to as his "power breath attack." This is also referenced in the novel, which mentions how reptiles have incredibly powerful lungs and respitory systems. However, this didn't test well with audiences, so the two fire breathing scenes were added at the last minute (which is why it isn't reflected in the novels and other tie-in merch). In the revised script, it's stated that he breathes a methane-like gas that gets ignited by the cars exploding. However, things get murky because one scene looks like the flames originate from Godzilla's mouth, and one looks like it's ignited. Throw on top of this the fact that the animated series gave both Godzillas an atomic breath, and it's easy to interpret the film's version as simply being his atomic breath as seen in the show. Also, the short lived Godzilla Online also gave the baby 'Zillas atomic breaths, so it's up for debate what the "canon" interpretation of the fire-breath scenes are. Also, some later promotional art like pic related had him breathing fire, so lean towards it being an "actual" breath attack, but either way the aspect of the character was represented despite what haters think.
Gojira
It's a lot of fish
>buy copyright for Godzilla
>now humans can kill him (her) with normal missiles and his (her) babies with assault rifles
Good film, and great Godzilla film, anybody saying otherwise never understood the series. It's a great example of Godzilla being hard science fiction, which is when the series is at its best. Amazing special effects, great plot, exciting action, plus it spawned The Series, and had an unironically good novelization. Also, best sound design in any Godzilla movie to date, belongs in the A-Rank tier of Godzilla films, next to entries like vs. Biollante.