As much as people made a big stink about that dumpster fire supposedly being about puberty and the characters being horny or whatever, there was absolutely nothing noteworthy of that nature in the entire film. The furthest they went with it was the main tweens going "omg those completely inoffensive pretty-boy stereotype celebrities are cute! CUTE!"
It couldn't even be offensive dogshit in an entertaining way, it was just bland crap.
There was a lot of menstruation talk and the mom alluded to a vegana as flower petals, but I get what you're saying. If it was live-action and not Disney it would be treated as any other coming of age movie and wouldn't have had the reactions it did. Are You There God It's Me Margaret came out one year later with a lot more "preteen girls talking about sex" and it still got a PG also a significantly better movie, so maybe not a fair comparison.
Apparently when looking for eye witnesses cops used to rely on hookers and teenager girls. Hookers remember people for safety reasons teen girls obsess over looks
>image
I feel like this is a genuine problem these days. It feels like whenever a girl is tomboyish, people immediately try to push them to be trans and shit. Why do people do that? It's sickening and cruel.
it's a really weird obsession with people who are well meaning but still heavily influenced by hatred of the other: the delusion that gays want to 'force' other people to be gay is nonsense, same as when they were afraid of the Irish, israelites, or Italians in NY, thinking these groups wanted to 'force' white protestants to be catholic or israeli or some shit. In reality, these 'otherized' groups just want to be comfortable in their own spaces. It's not the threat to you you feel it is. You own the world but you can't live in every fricking tiny corner of it but when a poor family moves to occupy space you never fricking wanted to begin with, it's the highest of all crimes and an 'invasion'. Comes from the insane delusion that you are owed more than god at all times just because you were born 'normal' or 'standard'. Boring and stupid and self defeating. Eventually, no one on Earth is going to even remember the supreme white man.
>Why do people do that?
Because they're insane and need professional help. But if you tell them that you're a transphobe or a bigot and for some reason no one has the balls anymore to fight back against these morons.
it's a really weird obsession with people who are well meaning but still heavily influenced by hatred of the other: the delusion that gays want to 'force' other people to be gay is nonsense, same as when they were afraid of the Irish, israelites, or Italians in NY, thinking these groups wanted to 'force' white protestants to be catholic or israeli or some shit. In reality, these 'otherized' groups just want to be comfortable in their own spaces. It's not the threat to you you feel it is. You own the world but you can't live in every fricking tiny corner of it but when a poor family moves to occupy space you never fricking wanted to begin with, it's the highest of all crimes and an 'invasion'. Comes from the insane delusion that you are owed more than god at all times just because you were born 'normal' or 'standard'. Boring and stupid and self defeating. Eventually, no one on Earth is going to even remember the supreme white man.
Well-meaning people don't convince vulnerable young people to take drugs they don't need that will ruin their life
Mark my words. The next 20 years are gonna get worse and worse. The younger generation has been used and abused by the adults in there life. The adults they thought they could trust. If you think mental illness is bad now, most people will look fricking normal compared dto the shit we're headed for.
Frick these manipulative evil buttholes who fricked with young children's identities like this. You have now planted the seed of doubt in them for the rest of there lives. I hope the people like this do the world a solid by putting themselves six feet in the ground.
>The next 20 years
Frick, don't make me think about it. We've already reached a point where the victims have turned into the perpetrators. I swear the times I've read some inane gender shit on tumblr just to check op's profile and find out they're 14 is... troublesome. I wish they'd at least stop ruining Cinemaphile things for the rest of us. Then again it's mostly Disney taking the bait. Here's hoping Dreamworks keeps doing what they do, maybe the relentless jobbing to DW and frick even the smaller companies will be a wake up call for Disney. I mean what was the last overwhelmingly well received Disney or Pixar movie?
At the back of their minds trannies are well aware that twnbaw and cope by dedicating their lives to staging as much assertation for their gender identity as they can. The victim's belief in their own transexuality is a belief in transexuality as a whole, which by extention is a belief in the groomer's transexuality. This is also why they get so mad at people who detransition.
>The Lion King animators drew lions fricking because they needed to capture their movements >Snow White had the same thing done back in the 1900s
let's see how long it takes for you fricking dipshits to misconstrue this into Snow White fricks lions
What the frick are you even talking about they are talking about the writing of a Teenage character I'm pretty sure that they don't need any help with the animation of that as they're very familiar with the anatomy of young girls
The moment you tell any person (kid or not) that you need them to make a story based on their group, they will act differently than their normal behavior.
Trying to portray the authentic experience of a teenaged girl is moronic because teenaged girls are the least authentic people on the planet
>The teenage girls were then secretly followed and it turned out none of them acted the way they claimed a teenage girl should act.
This. While it may seem like a good idea at first, I doubt the insight provided could be of that much use alone, since it is probably not very genuine. It'd probably be better to get the insight and opinions of therapists or something at the same time.
No. You don't even learn about it in public education so the most boys get is a talk from their dad or have to deal with it on their own if they don't have one. I remember most of my S.E. in school was learning about females while stuff about men was just glossed over. This is why girls think guys are creeps when they get boners, because they aren't taught to know that sometimes its just unintentional
>t. tumblr lesbian who thinks made up microaggressions are life threatening situations
THIS is why women "have it hard", their life is usually so smooth that
The real struggle is getting the guy who looks good on paper and makes a nice salary but he's a fricking abusive, controlling butthole. It's easier to get sex but harder to be loved. Women control sex, men control love, and men have only recently been taught how to do that.
It's easier both to get sex and to be loved for women. It's not 100% success wiht anyone you choose but it's a lot easier than if you are a man.
It's harder to be taken seriously and respected in leadership and business related positions though
there's a reason that all media is designed around women and nonwhites, they're the easiest to influence through media, asians and hispanics are a bit more collectivist and blacks often dont have dads to develop the self restraint/internal order that makes one resistant to media manipulation.
Every society over 150 people will be ruled by a small group of people who tell stories of why they're in charge, the ones ruling now rule through media, bureaucracy, unquestionable "experts" in any number of fields, the justifying story they have is that their consumer base is better off being consumer prostitutes to fend off the white and male devils from having authority.
There are only 3 female oriented Pixar movies in their entire catalogue (Inside Out, Turning Red, and Elemental) 4 if you count this. I don't see how that makes them "fem-brained"
I don't know why they're restricting it to girls only. Part of Riley's characterization in the first movie was that she was fairly androgynous in both appearance and action, making her easily relatable.
How come they're trying to lean hard into full femininity with her?
>How come they're trying to lean hard into full femininity with her?
because she is female, and the story is about the changes that a female human being experiences during the time in her life when her most feminine traits develop due to natural biological processes.
Not a single note about how horny and sexually aroused teen girls get? What a biased study. There should have been an emote for Horny or at least Attraction. Typical American society burying their head in the sand deeper than the tongue in their daughters teenage pussy.
It's just a simple fact of life that teens frick. Most teen girls frick harder and longer than the average amature porn star and with better skill. This is the mental block equivalent of No War in Ba Sing Se, only it's "There is no wiener in My Girls Puss-ay"
Imagine making a whole movie just to have an alibi for your pedo party.
That's creepy.
Fricking creepy
I like how nobody else is talking about this. You think after the whole shit that went down with quiet on set, you drones would have a more concerned reaction about this. Wake up from you politically rotted Brian's bros, we cannot trust any of these huge studios.
I hate it when Hollywood does this
Because if you think about it this is really just a glorified Focus Group.
Pixar also does a really stupid thing where they get a bunch of other writers and filmmakers to give notes on a movie which I feel harms the film. There’s is such a thing as too many cooks in the kitchen and I’d rather see one creator’s own vision however flawed it may be
Disney and Pixar movies are no longer like a single meal being prepared by a couple of cooks in a kitchen. Now they’re more like a single meal being prepared by hundreds of workers in a giant factory.
It's just a continuation of the broader trend of bringing in """consultants""" for anything and everything to try to prove to people that your product is AUTHENTIC which ultimately just turns it into a work by committee that lacks any kind of artistic vision.
The modern obsession with "authenticity" over art is most of the reason that everything fricking sucks now.
Disney and Pixar movies are no longer like a single meal being prepared by a couple of cooks in a kitchen. Now they’re more like a single meal being prepared by hundreds of workers in a giant factory.
It's just a continuation of the broader trend of bringing in """consultants""" for anything and everything to try to prove to people that your product is AUTHENTIC which ultimately just turns it into a work by committee that lacks any kind of artistic vision.
The modern obsession with "authenticity" over art is most of the reason that everything fricking sucks now.
I'm betting on the next group of film creators now. Hollywood is dead at this point. I'm hoping that newer people can start the new golden age of films....I hope.
>we showed a bunch of moronic kids our movie about a fictional moronic kid and asked them how much it made them want to kill themselves, then adjusted accordingly
>1) they actually did this moronic thing they say they did
or >2) they lied about doing this moronic thing they said they did to seem progressive or whatever
Both options result in the same conclusion, they're moronic.
>Just hire good writers you bunch of creepy fricks.
The monsters don't give a frick, anon.
Writers have a union, contracts and rights.
Unpaid interns are often smart enough to get a lawyer and police when crimes happen. (Ignoring their own form of self-permitted slavery)
Children meanwhile are vulnerable not just because they're smaller, weaker and more ignorant or naive, but because their own parents might be so bought-in to the idea that their child is now a part of a large or important thing happening, that the person who is supposed to protect them becomes the child's own worst enemy.
>marketing gimmicks >the same tedious saturday morning plot
I'm not a f/a/ggot but why do people overestimate so much western trash ? They claim to be inspired by Ghibli and I've never seen that. Does anyone remember Miyazaki's last movie, the one where he didn't come up with a gimmicky plot (dimensional portals were bullshit though), and had actual depth?
big if true
small if false
>women get two Pixar movies
>men get one shitty Netflix cartoon
That's creepy.
Trying to portray the authentic experience of a teenaged girl is moronic because teenaged girls are the least authentic people on the planet
They're also dealing with a lot of sexual feelings and you can't do that in a kids movie.
>They're also dealing with a lot of sexual feelings and you can't do that in a kids movie
Have you not seen Turning Red? Because I haven't
As much as people made a big stink about that dumpster fire supposedly being about puberty and the characters being horny or whatever, there was absolutely nothing noteworthy of that nature in the entire film. The furthest they went with it was the main tweens going "omg those completely inoffensive pretty-boy stereotype celebrities are cute! CUTE!"
It couldn't even be offensive dogshit in an entertaining way, it was just bland crap.
There was a lot of menstruation talk and the mom alluded to a vegana as flower petals, but I get what you're saying. If it was live-action and not Disney it would be treated as any other coming of age movie and wouldn't have had the reactions it did. Are You There God It's Me Margaret came out one year later with a lot more "preteen girls talking about sex" and it still got a PG also a significantly better movie, so maybe not a fair comparison.
And kids change a lot thought the teenage years, what was true at one point might not be a few month down the line.
Pretty much. That's why middle school is loathed at a near universal level.
Apparently when looking for eye witnesses cops used to rely on hookers and teenager girls. Hookers remember people for safety reasons teen girls obsess over looks
>The teenage girls were then secretly followed and it turned out none of them acted the way they claimed a teenage girl should act.
Don't care, still not watching it.
Watch it or else.
Why does she look like a boy.
Because you're here on Cinemaphile, and there's something very wrong with you.
She has what could be called a bit of a boyish look but she can look like a girl
she is trans now btw
>image
I feel like this is a genuine problem these days. It feels like whenever a girl is tomboyish, people immediately try to push them to be trans and shit. Why do people do that? It's sickening and cruel.
it's a really weird obsession with people who are well meaning but still heavily influenced by hatred of the other: the delusion that gays want to 'force' other people to be gay is nonsense, same as when they were afraid of the Irish, israelites, or Italians in NY, thinking these groups wanted to 'force' white protestants to be catholic or israeli or some shit. In reality, these 'otherized' groups just want to be comfortable in their own spaces. It's not the threat to you you feel it is. You own the world but you can't live in every fricking tiny corner of it but when a poor family moves to occupy space you never fricking wanted to begin with, it's the highest of all crimes and an 'invasion'. Comes from the insane delusion that you are owed more than god at all times just because you were born 'normal' or 'standard'. Boring and stupid and self defeating. Eventually, no one on Earth is going to even remember the supreme white man.
>Why do people do that?
Because they're insane and need professional help. But if you tell them that you're a transphobe or a bigot and for some reason no one has the balls anymore to fight back against these morons.
Well-meaning people don't convince vulnerable young people to take drugs they don't need that will ruin their life
Mark my words. The next 20 years are gonna get worse and worse. The younger generation has been used and abused by the adults in there life. The adults they thought they could trust. If you think mental illness is bad now, most people will look fricking normal compared dto the shit we're headed for.
Frick these manipulative evil buttholes who fricked with young children's identities like this. You have now planted the seed of doubt in them for the rest of there lives. I hope the people like this do the world a solid by putting themselves six feet in the ground.
>The next 20 years
Frick, don't make me think about it. We've already reached a point where the victims have turned into the perpetrators. I swear the times I've read some inane gender shit on tumblr just to check op's profile and find out they're 14 is... troublesome. I wish they'd at least stop ruining Cinemaphile things for the rest of us. Then again it's mostly Disney taking the bait. Here's hoping Dreamworks keeps doing what they do, maybe the relentless jobbing to DW and frick even the smaller companies will be a wake up call for Disney. I mean what was the last overwhelmingly well received Disney or Pixar movie?
At the back of their minds trannies are well aware that twnbaw and cope by dedicating their lives to staging as much assertation for their gender identity as they can. The victim's belief in their own transexuality is a belief in transexuality as a whole, which by extention is a belief in the groomer's transexuality. This is also why they get so mad at people who detransition.
Docter didn't do this and the first one turned out fine. Movies influenced by focus groups are always shit, they don't fricking work.
Picrel
Funny how things change. If Overstrike was announced today people would be calling it
an Overwatch clone.
Doctor used his own daughter as influence and inspiration.
>The Lion King animators drew lions fricking because they needed to capture their movements
>Snow White had the same thing done back in the 1900s
let's see how long it takes for you fricking dipshits to misconstrue this into Snow White fricks lions
What the frick are you even talking about they are talking about the writing of a Teenage character I'm pretty sure that they don't need any help with the animation of that as they're very familiar with the anatomy of young girls
>spoiler
Don't be silly, anon... there are no lions in Germany.
It should be a lynx, wolf and/or bear.
you just know they did more than give notes
The moment you tell any person (kid or not) that you need them to make a story based on their group, they will act differently than their normal behavior.
This. While it may seem like a good idea at first, I doubt the insight provided could be of that much use alone, since it is probably not very genuine. It'd probably be better to get the insight and opinions of therapists or something at the same time.
Pedo studio yikes
Has any animated film or series done a boy puberty where they talk about dealing with awkward boners.
No. You don't even learn about it in public education so the most boys get is a talk from their dad or have to deal with it on their own if they don't have one. I remember most of my S.E. in school was learning about females while stuff about men was just glossed over. This is why girls think guys are creeps when they get boners, because they aren't taught to know that sometimes its just unintentional
The netflix one, Big Mouth
FLCL
tatami galaxy
mission hill
Don't Toy With Me Miss Nagatoro
not boners specifically but turning red didn't exactly show mei flicking the bean.
Also why does Cinemaphile always need to bring up dicks, it kinda weird.
South Park
If they did that, then the movie is gonna be terrible
Pixar is so fem brained now. Everything needs to be THE STRUGGLES OF BEING FEMALE IN A WORLD ON EASY MODE WITH CHEAT CODES ON.
moronic autist
Sooooo. Why are you so mad?
>t. tumblr lesbian who thinks made up microaggressions are life threatening situations
THIS is why women "have it hard", their life is usually so smooth that
ANYTHING that doesn't go perfectly or someone doesn't give her what she wants she has a mental breakdown and starts crying "UNFAIR UNFAIR UNFAIR!!"
intelligent noticer
braindead moron
The real struggle is getting the guy who looks good on paper and makes a nice salary but he's a fricking abusive, controlling butthole. It's easier to get sex but harder to be loved. Women control sex, men control love, and men have only recently been taught how to do that.
Money should have nothing to do with how attractive someone is.
It's easier both to get sex and to be loved for women. It's not 100% success wiht anyone you choose but it's a lot easier than if you are a man.
It's harder to be taken seriously and respected in leadership and business related positions though
and how good do you look "on paper" and what's your salary? i assume yours is equal or higher if you can complain
there's a reason that all media is designed around women and nonwhites, they're the easiest to influence through media, asians and hispanics are a bit more collectivist and blacks often dont have dads to develop the self restraint/internal order that makes one resistant to media manipulation.
Every society over 150 people will be ruled by a small group of people who tell stories of why they're in charge, the ones ruling now rule through media, bureaucracy, unquestionable "experts" in any number of fields, the justifying story they have is that their consumer base is better off being consumer prostitutes to fend off the white and male devils from having authority.
There are only 3 female oriented Pixar movies in their entire catalogue (Inside Out, Turning Red, and Elemental) 4 if you count this. I don't see how that makes them "fem-brained"
>some guys in Hollywood regularly met with underaged girls
ok and? this isn't news anymore.
they watch the film early and said their opinions, anyone thinking anything happened beyond that are moronic morons
Yeah this feels gimmicky as frick
Diary of Anne Frank US version
I think people are going to get fatigued by this whole "puberty=depression+dysphoria" crap if this film doubles down on that stuff
>Diary of Anne Frank US version
so also fake?
Imagine making a whole movie just to have an alibi for your pedo party.
I wonder how the little-boy-in-short-shorts-with-one-eye movie is coming along
I don't know why they're restricting it to girls only. Part of Riley's characterization in the first movie was that she was fairly androgynous in both appearance and action, making her easily relatable.
How come they're trying to lean hard into full femininity with her?
Because everyone is tired of the alphabet soup of sexual orientation.
>How come they're trying to lean hard into full femininity with her?
because she is female, and the story is about the changes that a female human being experiences during the time in her life when her most feminine traits develop due to natural biological processes.
Fricking creepy
Eh. Sounds troublingly close to being a focus group. But depending on how it went down, it doesn’t sound like the worst idea. At least on the surface.
Not a single note about how horny and sexually aroused teen girls get? What a biased study. There should have been an emote for Horny or at least Attraction. Typical American society burying their head in the sand deeper than the tongue in their daughters teenage pussy.
If this won't do it, the next big puberty movie will start making the left accuse corporations of being "Christian Coded"
It's just a simple fact of life that teens frick. Most teen girls frick harder and longer than the average amature porn star and with better skill. This is the mental block equivalent of No War in Ba Sing Se, only it's "There is no wiener in My Girls Puss-ay"
I think that if attempts at military recruitment of men fail or they defect easily, they'll be forced to acknowledge it
Is this true? Provide a source
It's old now, it was for the show "Win or Lose"
WTF they don't require the actor to be trans? this is trans-erasure
You mean to say you don't understand what "can accurately portray a 14-year-old transgender girl" means?
That's just we-don't-want-to-outright-say-it speak for "calling all trannies"
This... is fake, right?
RIGHT?
UOOOHH if true
I like how nobody else is talking about this. You think after the whole shit that went down with quiet on set, you drones would have a more concerned reaction about this. Wake up from you politically rotted Brian's bros, we cannot trust any of these huge studios.
do these morons not understand the appeal of the first movie?
The first movie had appeal?
There's accuracy and then there's whatever the FRICK Pixar's doing
I wonder how many of them became bitter enemies for life by the time they were done.
Being a young boy in the 2020s must suck.
Man considering how much grown men are killing themselves now, I pray for the younger boys out there.
Anything that talks about anxiety is gay as frick.
ALPHA, RITA'S ESCAPED
RECRUIT A GROUP OF TEENAGE GIRLS WITH ATTITUDE
were they hot?
>9 teenage girls
I bet they had "fun" at the executives' parties.
I hate it when Hollywood does this
Because if you think about it this is really just a glorified Focus Group.
Pixar also does a really stupid thing where they get a bunch of other writers and filmmakers to give notes on a movie which I feel harms the film. There’s is such a thing as too many cooks in the kitchen and I’d rather see one creator’s own vision however flawed it may be
Disney and Pixar movies are no longer like a single meal being prepared by a couple of cooks in a kitchen. Now they’re more like a single meal being prepared by hundreds of workers in a giant factory.
It's just a continuation of the broader trend of bringing in """consultants""" for anything and everything to try to prove to people that your product is AUTHENTIC which ultimately just turns it into a work by committee that lacks any kind of artistic vision.
The modern obsession with "authenticity" over art is most of the reason that everything fricking sucks now.
I'm betting on the next group of film creators now. Hollywood is dead at this point. I'm hoping that newer people can start the new golden age of films....I hope.
>we showed a bunch of moronic kids our movie about a fictional moronic kid and asked them how much it made them want to kill themselves, then adjusted accordingly
>braces
ruined. I can't fap to this.
gay
>we have more emotions now
where's freaky
>yeah we’re gonna need, uh, teenage girls here. Oh, and nine more down the line. No blacks please
The chart says…
>trusting teenage girls to tell you about teenage girls
How do i know if this statement were a lie?
who cares, the possibilities are that
>1) they actually did this moronic thing they say they did
or
>2) they lied about doing this moronic thing they said they did to seem progressive or whatever
Both options result in the same conclusion, they're moronic.
> NINE teenage girls
> AND the writers
> AND AND all the shit-head execs
Pixar is so fricking tryhard for no fricking reason. Just hire good writers you bunch of creepy fricks.
>Just hire good writers you bunch of creepy fricks.
The monsters don't give a frick, anon.
Writers have a union, contracts and rights.
Unpaid interns are often smart enough to get a lawyer and police when crimes happen. (Ignoring their own form of self-permitted slavery)
Children meanwhile are vulnerable not just because they're smaller, weaker and more ignorant or naive, but because their own parents might be so bought-in to the idea that their child is now a part of a large or important thing happening, that the person who is supposed to protect them becomes the child's own worst enemy.
Why did they ask teenage girls when the protag on the left is a boy?
>marketing gimmicks
>the same tedious saturday morning plot
I'm not a f/a/ggot but why do people overestimate so much western trash ? They claim to be inspired by Ghibli and I've never seen that. Does anyone remember Miyazaki's last movie, the one where he didn't come up with a gimmicky plot (dimensional portals were bullshit though), and had actual depth?