The movie is just weird to me, because it bends all logic and reason to turn into a big budget in-universe funeral for Chadwick Boseman.
There are things in it that are well, but the greater plot is just bizarre the more you think about it. T'challa dies of an offscreen disease that is apparently so horrible that 1. he decided not to tell anyone about it (like Chadwick) despite the MCU being a setting where a random Korean scientist built a medical pod so advanced it can graft Ultron an organic vibranium body and 2a. all of Wakanda's science can't cure it. The key to recreating the Heart-Shaped Herb turns out to be the fricking friendship bracelet that Namor gave Shuri. It is never acknowledged that Wakandans fighting the not!Atlanteans on their home turf is suicide, because the movie goes out of it's way to have everyone fight in melee anyway. Nor is it ever acknowledged that after T'challa's death, his family is doing everything in it's power to reverse his stated wishes (to open up Wakanda to the world) except for his girlfriend who is an exile or retired or some shit, just to bring back the status quo of Wakanda Good Outside World Bad despite the movie ALSO trying to compare Shuri to fricking Killmonger of all people. People have brought up Shuri and Riri wasting cops during their escape but 1. that sidesteps the issue that THE CIA SHOULD LOGICALLY ALREADY HAVE ACCESS TO HER VIBRANIUM SCANNER'S SPECS IF THEY KNOW IT WORKS, she is somehow more toned down from her comic version and therefore not actually Tony Stark levels of having a lock on all her tech and 2. tbqh Riri's worst crime isn't being insufferable like in the comics, it's that she has so little agency and personality she feels more like a plot device than a character.
There are competently executed emotional scenes, moments of acting and I personally thought Undersea Mesoamerica was pretty cool. M'baku continues to be based, and even though I find both surviving Wakandan royals insane and irresponsible as well as the very idea of Killmonger "taking care of business" being a fat load of bullshit for a villain that NEVER had any sympathetic motivations, I can't fault the actors' performance for the roles they were assigned. The problem is, if you actually think about what's going on for more than 15 minutes and divorce yourself from the very heavyhanded emotional beats the movie is beating you over the head with, you realise the whole thing consistently runs on some sort of guilt/anger driven fever dream logic. Shuri being able to fight with a fricking hole through her spine and just kind of walk it off makes about as much sense as everything else that happened so the plot could.
2/2
He was taking about Get the Gringo. The Namor actor was in that as well.
There are competently executed emotional scenes, moments of acting and I personally thought Undersea Mesoamerica was pretty cool. M'baku continues to be based, and even though I find both surviving Wakandan royals insane and irresponsible as well as the very idea of Killmonger "taking care of business" being a fat load of bullshit for a villain that NEVER had any sympathetic motivations, I can't fault the actors' performance for the roles they were assigned. The problem is, if you actually think about what's going on for more than 15 minutes and divorce yourself from the very heavyhanded emotional beats the movie is beating you over the head with, you realise the whole thing consistently runs on some sort of guilt/anger driven fever dream logic. Shuri being able to fight with a fricking hole through her spine and just kind of walk it off makes about as much sense as everything else that happened so the plot could.
himself to ally with Wakanda because... reasons, while being entirely xenophobic towards else, because Coogler wanted his "ayo homie we brownz n blackz gotta stick it do da white man maaaaaaaang"
I mean
He did it because they both had the majority of the vibranium in the world.
If he really wanted to unite on the basis of race, brutally killing acclaimed actress Angela Bassett is probably the worst way to do it.
I hate so much the need to over-explain everything, like they think the audience is too moronic to just accept "I'm from Atlantis, my name is Namor, which is an Atlantean name" for an origin.
No, they had to do that, because the MCU version is a Mayan, and "Namor" is not a Mayan word in any stretch of the imagination. So yet another case of twisting a character and ruining them to push their agenda.
>"The Mayans know me as Kukukakakhan but my Atlantean name is Namor."
oh no so hard and confusing how will the normies figure it out without a three hour youtube video essay
It’s not about making him not Atlantean, the reason they changed it is because BP is the “sociopolitical hero” so that means they have to keep amping up the victim shit in every movie. I mean god forbid you have a high tech Afro futurist kingdom without somehow shoehorning transatlantic chattel slavery, frick they could have just kept Claw as the ancestor of some people that were trying to steal their shit and that would have been fine.
can't wait for the third movie to mainly focus on mother with child ! marvel did really pushed themselves into corner with writing off all their interesting characters.
Sucks. I don't like the Aztech aesthetic (Az-thetic?) and Namor is supposed to be a boisterous arrogant butthole, not a quiet, scared little boy who's sad because he lost his mommy and just wants to be left alone.
This is what Disney/Marvel doesn't seem to understand. From now on, the audience isn't going to be thinking "We still have Black Panther movies, it's just that Shuri is Black Panther now." We're going to be thinking "Now we have Shuri movies." And why would we give a shit about that? We like the character of the hero, not the suit. We wouldn't keep watching Iron Man movies if they killed off Tony and then had Happy or Pepper wear the Iron Man suit from then on. They should've just recast T'Challa. Fricking idiots.
Based Chad Boseman knew exactly what he was doing. Legally, Disney could sue his senpai to get their money back, as he entered a multi-film contract in bad faith, knowing he wouldn't live that long, knowing he wouldn't get the role unless he faked commitment, and they can't do shit because they convinced the world that he's blackjesus and i'm dying over here because who digs a pit will surely fall in it.
He was a cool adaptation of him. While I like comic Namor being a dick. Him being way more kingly and Doomesque was a great approach for the context of the story.
The empire of superhumans killed the technologically advanced country's queen and their king can't beat the new queen. Pretty sure the former will be keeping the latter in check.
People complain about Captain Marvel for this more, but Thor is so OP they had to ship him off into space to "find himself" and turn him into a joke just to preserve there being any conflict on Earth at all. I mean, The Marvels actually highlighted a fricking weakness for: Energy absorbtion, which rapidly brings her down to levels where a Kree Accuser can overwhelm her. Meanwhile Thor is no longer vulnerable to the gag of him getting zapped into submission, can STRONG CLEAVE through an Infinity Gauntlet blast and going by Love and Thunder was holding his own against a guy who had all the gods of the universe scared when they fought outside his home turf even before Jane netted him the win.
The difference between Thor and Captain Marvel is that Thor is a literal god like being, and one of the strongest of them. He's supposed to be ridiculously strong.
But the counterpoint to that is that Thor is trying to be a good king and leader, he has a character outside of his strength that his strength alone can't solve.
Of course the movies screwed that over and just made him a gag character, but at Thor's heart is the idea that he's supposed to be the leader and protector of asgard.
Captain Marvel in the movies lacked all of that and is just powerful for feminisms sake. Her entire character development in her movie was literally just >lol i don't have to think or care about others, it's all about ME and MY abilities >why should I ever had to hold back or take anything else into consideration? it's about letting go and overpowering everyone!
I can't wait for the really stupidly obvious "Namor has decreed that Talokan cannot get involved in this conflict. We can't rely on them for help." line in Kang Dynasty.
I think the piercings are AWFUL and his israeliteelry is tacky. It looks fake and cheap. The actor was also not pretty enough to be Namor and if they were going to raceswap Namor I think Asian really would have been the way to go.
I liked the Mesoamerican look as a fresh coat of paint to differentiate him from Aquaman, though I always liked Mesoamerican aesthetic in media. That said, I wish they would've done more with him when he's easily the most interesting part of the movie.
>I liked the Mesoamerican look as a fresh coat of paint to differentiate him from Aquaman
He shouldn't have to. Namor came first. He can differentiate himself from Aquaman by being a bad guy.
>shows up to Wakanda's shores unannounced, threatens war if they don't join him against literally the entire surface world, refuses to explain, leaves >I tried to kill an innocent woman and only relented when you came with me as a hostage, but...we're totally the same! >his "tragic backstory" is that centuries ago, a priest called him a mean name. The plot somehow expects you to take this to mean he grew up without love despite demonstrably having a mother who cared for him
Namor WOULD be based if BP2 could stop pretending he is in any way, shape or form an antihero for five fricking minutes. He is a full-on supervillain undeserving of sympathy, and far worse than any of his enemies.
Did they though? Because they looked ridiculous to me, it's just the movie didn't make as much fun of it as say-Quantumania made fun of MODOK being a squishy little round man
Thank you. This is where the movie lost me. Idc if he had these wings in the comic. My brain simply can't accept, no matter how fast they're flapping, that they could lift a 200lb man. It looks fricking stupid.
Yeah the choreo for how he maneuvered with the ankle wings was great.
Did they though? Because they looked ridiculous to me, it's just the movie didn't make as much fun of it as say-Quantumania made fun of MODOK being a squishy little round man
Thank you. This is where the movie lost me. Idc if he had these wings in the comic. My brain simply can't accept, no matter how fast they're flapping, that they could lift a 200lb man. It looks fricking stupid.
The wings were always stupid. They "fit" as a reference to Hermes for a GrecoRoman Atlantis, but even then it's moronic. Namor's mutation should've always been hydrokinesis, period. Namor should've looked like pic related, and the wings should've at best been there as decorations on his boots. Literal wetback manlet with a nose piercing wielding a spear with two flapping seagull wings on his feet is so moronic that I cannot believe it made it past Coogler's moronic imagination.
Keanu would've been a GOAT Namor, coming off John Wick. He could sell the tranquil fury, the wise yet pissed off King demeanor, everything about Namor could be pulled off by him.
The idea of Aztec themed Atlantis was cool. Narratively, it was dogshit. And Namor was a moron (although I guess being hotheaded moron is true to the comics).
Terrible.
The design isn’t great. Why not just go with the original design? Did they not like him showing that much skin or something? But yeah, put me down for wanting the CrossFit Mr. Spock in the green trunks.
>called a Hulk-level threat earlier in the movie >defeated by a fricking oversized air fryer
...would NORMAL energy weapons not have worked just as well on him? I mean does Wakanda have not a single heat ray? Just zap the motherfricker a bunch.
Yeah, it really did feel like "Namor's people are a huge threat to Wakanda because... They just ARE, okay?" Like this is the same nation that put up one hell of a fight against Thanos' forces, but they're gonna get taken out because Namor's got bombs that make water?
See I thought the lion's share of their threat came from the fact that they have a superweapon that can shoot tidal waves as far inland as Wakanda at least, which-fair enough. But the MCU being what it is, the show ALSO seems to want to emphasise that the Talokanii can beat up Wakandans in 1v1 melees. Which makes it all the stupider that Shuri somehow gets everyone to fight them in the ocean, where they should have literally every logistical advantage, and somehow the end of the movie is presented as the Wakandans having somehow done meaningful damage and come away with a hard-fought truce rather than the Talokanii just playing with them until they reloaded the tsunami superweapon.
Seriously at that point Namor just wanted to kill everyone, he couldn't just won by simply...NOT showing up to the designated battle zone and shooting another tsunami at Wakanda while the Wakandans were getting lost looking all over the whole goddamn ocean for his people. Like what the frick was their plan if the Talokanii didn't politely show up for honourable PvP duelling? Randomly drop sonic mines in the ocean and hope one lands in not!Atlantis?
>the lion's share of their threat came from the fact that they have a superweapon that can shoot tidal waves as far inland as Wakanda at least
Those fools! Don't they know they'd be going up against Doctor Stephen Strange, master of holding back water?!
I liked him and the Talokans, unironically the only superhero movie ever where even the nameless mooks were incredibly dangerous and hard to deal with.
Horrible. Not bombastic or over the top enough. I don't mind the Mesoamerican origin at all, but he's not Namor. He's way too toned down. Which on itself is bad, but I also consider him a test for how well they can do Doom and no. Nope.
>Thoughts on MCU Namor, Cinemaphile?
Ugly - he should be the actor, women should go just to see him
Fat - WTF Kevin Feige?
Out of shape
Total disrespect for comic books
Namora? they took the leotard off again, first Gamora, then Carol Danvers and Mantis, Sersi and now Namora. If Namora was inspired by
Esther Williams, what did Feiige do? He chose a Latina actress. What's wrong with blondes? They took a tiny actress with no physical appeal, we're talking about a superhero franchise, the actors have to be in the physical shape of athletes, I'm not surprised that the genre is dead, because it's in the hands of people who hate the source, hate to respect what was done in the comic books. If you're an investor you're crazy for putting money on Kevin Feige.
Man was packing so much schmeat they had to digitally remove his giant sea serpent from every scene he's in. Also this movie fricking sucked and anyone who pretends it didn't is too easily manipulated by hamfisted pathos that exploits the death of a real person to promote a bad movie
I thought I would hate him but I ended up liking him in the end. He tried to seduce Shuri, and had ruthlessly attacked Wakanda the same way Namor always does. His armor was pretty cool and and a nice adaptation of his usual look. His attitude was spot on imo, he switched from sorta friendly to a massive threat well
I more meant cities in general but typed Wakanda instead. I liked that major characters were killed/injured and the general citizens too not even by Namor but that giant wave thing Atlanteans do
I always thought it was a pretty cook attack despite being pretty basic
The flood adds a whole other layer of danger to the situation, especially with fish people and their creatures swimming in it. That's one of the things that disappointed me about this portrayal. Namor and the Atlanteans almost always have some kind of gigantic creature backing them up and while I get that maybe there wasn't a place for a giant monster attack in the movie, not seeing any unique kinds of creature beyond some plants iirc, feels like a missed opportunity.
Marvels earths have all kinds of weird creatures and giant monsters walking/swimming around and I just figured with them being open to showing creatures like the ones in the Thor and Guardians movies or the more magical side of the world with Werewolf by Night and Moon Knight, this ancient city would have a few cool aides beyond a couple of whales
Doub it, his demandant was bought, she hasn't speaked in months, it was a dumb lawsuit anyway, they were already fricking, he just took off the condom and she went apeshit.
would
wouldn't
I think he's Mexican
good it wouldve been better movie if he actually facing tchalla instead of his sister
Seriously
I wanna see the rivalry done in live-action goddammit
He is better in the comics, here something was missing. Not the actor's fault though.
True wish they recasted him… the movie without bp was avererage at best
Even keeping Killmonger alive and making him the next Black Panther as the start of a redemption arc would have been better.
Let's make bin Laden US president . Frick off.
The Black Panther doesn’t have to be the king.
I thought ancient civilizations of the south americas didn't have facial hair?
He was good in Get the Gringo.
Is this movie any good?
no it turns you into a pol poster
the mel gibson movie?
it's cool, can pretend it's a sequel to payback
The movie is just weird to me, because it bends all logic and reason to turn into a big budget in-universe funeral for Chadwick Boseman.
There are things in it that are well, but the greater plot is just bizarre the more you think about it. T'challa dies of an offscreen disease that is apparently so horrible that 1. he decided not to tell anyone about it (like Chadwick) despite the MCU being a setting where a random Korean scientist built a medical pod so advanced it can graft Ultron an organic vibranium body and 2a. all of Wakanda's science can't cure it. The key to recreating the Heart-Shaped Herb turns out to be the fricking friendship bracelet that Namor gave Shuri. It is never acknowledged that Wakandans fighting the not!Atlanteans on their home turf is suicide, because the movie goes out of it's way to have everyone fight in melee anyway. Nor is it ever acknowledged that after T'challa's death, his family is doing everything in it's power to reverse his stated wishes (to open up Wakanda to the world) except for his girlfriend who is an exile or retired or some shit, just to bring back the status quo of Wakanda Good Outside World Bad despite the movie ALSO trying to compare Shuri to fricking Killmonger of all people. People have brought up Shuri and Riri wasting cops during their escape but 1. that sidesteps the issue that THE CIA SHOULD LOGICALLY ALREADY HAVE ACCESS TO HER VIBRANIUM SCANNER'S SPECS IF THEY KNOW IT WORKS, she is somehow more toned down from her comic version and therefore not actually Tony Stark levels of having a lock on all her tech and 2. tbqh Riri's worst crime isn't being insufferable like in the comics, it's that she has so little agency and personality she feels more like a plot device than a character.
1/2
He was taking about Get the Gringo. The Namor actor was in that as well.
she got the same treatment as that one hispanic girl in the second doctor strange movie
There are competently executed emotional scenes, moments of acting and I personally thought Undersea Mesoamerica was pretty cool. M'baku continues to be based, and even though I find both surviving Wakandan royals insane and irresponsible as well as the very idea of Killmonger "taking care of business" being a fat load of bullshit for a villain that NEVER had any sympathetic motivations, I can't fault the actors' performance for the roles they were assigned. The problem is, if you actually think about what's going on for more than 15 minutes and divorce yourself from the very heavyhanded emotional beats the movie is beating you over the head with, you realise the whole thing consistently runs on some sort of guilt/anger driven fever dream logic. Shuri being able to fight with a fricking hole through her spine and just kind of walk it off makes about as much sense as everything else that happened so the plot could.
2/2
He's not really Namor at all but I liked it
Submaricón
lul
Jaja
himself to ally with Wakanda because... reasons, while being entirely xenophobic towards else, because Coogler wanted his "ayo homie we brownz n blackz gotta stick it do da white man maaaaaaaang"
I mean
He did it because they both had the majority of the vibranium in the world.
If he really wanted to unite on the basis of race, brutally killing acclaimed actress Angela Bassett is probably the worst way to do it.
>his name is literally slang for virgin, in-universe
It isn't, though. You're just moronic.
Not enough of a self-righteous butthole to fit the character. Also not a very cathartic ending because they just agree to leave each other alone
What a gay
I think he has a better look than comic Namor. I like the South American vibe
I'm mexican. Hated it. "Niño sin amor" to "Namor" is complete idiocy.
I hate so much the need to over-explain everything, like they think the audience is too moronic to just accept "I'm from Atlantis, my name is Namor, which is an Atlantean name" for an origin.
No, they had to do that, because the MCU version is a Mayan, and "Namor" is not a Mayan word in any stretch of the imagination. So yet another case of twisting a character and ruining them to push their agenda.
>"The Mayans know me as Kukukakakhan but my Atlantean name is Namor."
oh no so hard and confusing how will the normies figure it out without a three hour youtube video essay
There is no Atlantis, moron.
It’s not about making him not Atlantean, the reason they changed it is because BP is the “sociopolitical hero” so that means they have to keep amping up the victim shit in every movie. I mean god forbid you have a high tech Afro futurist kingdom without somehow shoehorning transatlantic chattel slavery, frick they could have just kept Claw as the ancestor of some people that were trying to steal their shit and that would have been fine.
Antiwhiteism, plain and simple.
legitimately terrible
You probably won’t see him again (at least not that version of him) because Tenoch Huerta was accused of sexual assault last June
So sad that Namor died of the same mysterious disease that killed T'challa...
Namor will be dethroned offscreen for forcing himself onto Shuri so the 3rd movie will focus on her coping with the trauma of rape.
You know considering how literally BP2 took Chadwick's death having an impact on the MCU, I would not entirely discount that.
Or for that matter, Shuri being dethroned because she starts spreading [unspecified chinese disease] misinformation.
can't wait for the third movie to mainly focus on mother with child ! marvel did really pushed themselves into corner with writing off all their interesting characters.
Maybe in the next movie Namor can die of some mysterious disease and Namorita can take over Not-Atlantis because.
Ofcourse women are in charge of casting. They cast abusive frickboys and ugly b***hes .
Sucks. I don't like the Aztech aesthetic (Az-thetic?) and Namor is supposed to be a boisterous arrogant butthole, not a quiet, scared little boy who's sad because he lost his mommy and just wants to be left alone.
>My name is Iron Man
>They call me that cause I Ran Man
Kino
>My name is Thor
>They call me that because when I get hit in the face, I'm sore
>Also I have a lisp
Why would I watch a movie called black Panther without black Panther in it?
This is what Disney/Marvel doesn't seem to understand. From now on, the audience isn't going to be thinking "We still have Black Panther movies, it's just that Shuri is Black Panther now." We're going to be thinking "Now we have Shuri movies." And why would we give a shit about that? We like the character of the hero, not the suit. We wouldn't keep watching Iron Man movies if they killed off Tony and then had Happy or Pepper wear the Iron Man suit from then on. They should've just recast T'Challa. Fricking idiots.
Based Chad Boseman knew exactly what he was doing. Legally, Disney could sue his senpai to get their money back, as he entered a multi-film contract in bad faith, knowing he wouldn't live that long, knowing he wouldn't get the role unless he faked commitment, and they can't do shit because they convinced the world that he's blackjesus and i'm dying over here because who digs a pit will surely fall in it.
All I'm saying is, they had a perfectly good John David Washington right there they could've cast as the new T'Challa.
Same.
There is no Namor in the MCU, he's Kukulkhan of whatever the frick his name is.
I'm something of a Kukulkhan myself
Absolutely underrated
He was a cool adaptation of him. While I like comic Namor being a dick. Him being way more kingly and Doomesque was a great approach for the context of the story.
Ugly brown midget that can't play a confident action star.
Ridiculous.
>technologically advanced country and an empire of superhumans joined forces
what the frick is supposed to keep them in check?
The empire of superhumans killed the technologically advanced country's queen and their king can't beat the new queen. Pretty sure the former will be keeping the latter in check.
>their king can't beat the new queen
He can, though. Especially now that she already tipped her hand about using heat as a nerf.
yea, he just has to fight her not next to an island
Maybe next time Shuri can come up with a strategy that isn't the most moronic thing possible, like fighting Namor's army on the fricking ocean.
Thor and Hulk who can destroy all their scientific technologies in a biblical destructive way.
>"I am Namor. We can sing a song that makes you have a nice day and we can ride whales."
>Thor fires a lightning bolt into the ocean
People complain about Captain Marvel for this more, but Thor is so OP they had to ship him off into space to "find himself" and turn him into a joke just to preserve there being any conflict on Earth at all. I mean, The Marvels actually highlighted a fricking weakness for: Energy absorbtion, which rapidly brings her down to levels where a Kree Accuser can overwhelm her. Meanwhile Thor is no longer vulnerable to the gag of him getting zapped into submission, can STRONG CLEAVE through an Infinity Gauntlet blast and going by Love and Thunder was holding his own against a guy who had all the gods of the universe scared when they fought outside his home turf even before Jane netted him the win.
The difference between Thor and Captain Marvel is that Thor is a literal god like being, and one of the strongest of them. He's supposed to be ridiculously strong.
But the counterpoint to that is that Thor is trying to be a good king and leader, he has a character outside of his strength that his strength alone can't solve.
Of course the movies screwed that over and just made him a gag character, but at Thor's heart is the idea that he's supposed to be the leader and protector of asgard.
Captain Marvel in the movies lacked all of that and is just powerful for feminisms sake. Her entire character development in her movie was literally just
>lol i don't have to think or care about others, it's all about ME and MY abilities
>why should I ever had to hold back or take anything else into consideration? it's about letting go and overpowering everyone!
I can't wait for the really stupidly obvious "Namor has decreed that Talokan cannot get involved in this conflict. We can't rely on them for help." line in Kang Dynasty.
what happened with the eternals again?
they died on the way back to their home planet
They're all off-world.
I thought he was a great villain, and I really wanted Shuri to beat him to death. But as a good guy? Ehhh, I'm not feelling it.
I think the piercings are AWFUL and his israeliteelry is tacky. It looks fake and cheap. The actor was also not pretty enough to be Namor and if they were going to raceswap Namor I think Asian really would have been the way to go.
They could get a sappy jap to play him
Looks like shit, and took after hickman's take on him, so nothing salvageable.
I liked the Mesoamerican look as a fresh coat of paint to differentiate him from Aquaman, though I always liked Mesoamerican aesthetic in media. That said, I wish they would've done more with him when he's easily the most interesting part of the movie.
>I liked the Mesoamerican look as a fresh coat of paint to differentiate him from Aquaman
He shouldn't have to. Namor came first. He can differentiate himself from Aquaman by being a bad guy.
>being a bad guy
HELL no
Wasn't the actor accused of raping a chick or some shit
>shows up to Wakanda's shores unannounced, threatens war if they don't join him against literally the entire surface world, refuses to explain, leaves
>I tried to kill an innocent woman and only relented when you came with me as a hostage, but...we're totally the same!
>his "tragic backstory" is that centuries ago, a priest called him a mean name. The plot somehow expects you to take this to mean he grew up without love despite demonstrably having a mother who cared for him
Namor WOULD be based if BP2 could stop pretending he is in any way, shape or form an antihero for five fricking minutes. He is a full-on supervillain undeserving of sympathy, and far worse than any of his enemies.
Either you're being disingenuous and you are extremely fricking moronic.
Shut the frick up Namor, there was absolutely no justification for drowning the entire surface world for the deeds of some first world governments
moronic it is.
Ramon el Sub-Maricon
Dumb. His comic counterpart is unbelievable better. Hate the "nino sin amor" shit.
>They had to use CGI to nerf his distractingly huge bulge.
Somehow, this was a perfect casting for the character.
They somehow made the ankle wings kinda badass. They deserve props for that alone.
Did they though? Because they looked ridiculous to me, it's just the movie didn't make as much fun of it as say-Quantumania made fun of MODOK being a squishy little round man
Thank you. This is where the movie lost me. Idc if he had these wings in the comic. My brain simply can't accept, no matter how fast they're flapping, that they could lift a 200lb man. It looks fricking stupid.
Yeah the choreo for how he maneuvered with the ankle wings was great.
The wings were always stupid. They "fit" as a reference to Hermes for a GrecoRoman Atlantis, but even then it's moronic. Namor's mutation should've always been hydrokinesis, period. Namor should've looked like pic related, and the wings should've at best been there as decorations on his boots. Literal wetback manlet with a nose piercing wielding a spear with two flapping seagull wings on his feet is so moronic that I cannot believe it made it past Coogler's moronic imagination.
Keanu would've been a GOAT Namor, coming off John Wick. He could sell the tranquil fury, the wise yet pissed off King demeanor, everything about Namor could be pulled off by him.
You could have said you just wanted another character entirely to begin with.
His movie shouldnt have featured Black Panther but the Fantastic 4 instead
would been better
The idea of Aztec themed Atlantis was cool. Narratively, it was dogshit. And Namor was a moron (although I guess being hotheaded moron is true to the comics).
Terrible.
The scene where he rises from the lake to talk to Shuri and the Queen, I started a level of laughing fit I haven't had in a movie theater in ages.
The design isn’t great. Why not just go with the original design? Did they not like him showing that much skin or something? But yeah, put me down for wanting the CrossFit Mr. Spock in the green trunks.
I will never understand this casting or design choice.
I can't stop thinking how easy it is to call him a literal wetback.
And then Shuri beats him by drying off his back.
>called a Hulk-level threat earlier in the movie
>defeated by a fricking oversized air fryer
...would NORMAL energy weapons not have worked just as well on him? I mean does Wakanda have not a single heat ray? Just zap the motherfricker a bunch.
Yeah, it really did feel like "Namor's people are a huge threat to Wakanda because... They just ARE, okay?" Like this is the same nation that put up one hell of a fight against Thanos' forces, but they're gonna get taken out because Namor's got bombs that make water?
See I thought the lion's share of their threat came from the fact that they have a superweapon that can shoot tidal waves as far inland as Wakanda at least, which-fair enough. But the MCU being what it is, the show ALSO seems to want to emphasise that the Talokanii can beat up Wakandans in 1v1 melees. Which makes it all the stupider that Shuri somehow gets everyone to fight them in the ocean, where they should have literally every logistical advantage, and somehow the end of the movie is presented as the Wakandans having somehow done meaningful damage and come away with a hard-fought truce rather than the Talokanii just playing with them until they reloaded the tsunami superweapon.
Seriously at that point Namor just wanted to kill everyone, he couldn't just won by simply...NOT showing up to the designated battle zone and shooting another tsunami at Wakanda while the Wakandans were getting lost looking all over the whole goddamn ocean for his people. Like what the frick was their plan if the Talokanii didn't politely show up for honourable PvP duelling? Randomly drop sonic mines in the ocean and hope one lands in not!Atlantis?
>the lion's share of their threat came from the fact that they have a superweapon that can shoot tidal waves as far inland as Wakanda at least
Those fools! Don't they know they'd be going up against Doctor Stephen Strange, master of holding back water?!
>the show
*the movie, frick I'm tired.
He’s fine but needs to put on more muscle in the future.
Just watch the movie Apocalypto it’s 100x better than this.
Is Apocalypto even a good movie or is that just a meme?
Mel is Gibson is amazing I'm going to set the timing of the 2024 solar eclipse on april 8 with the one on the movie
They made "The Whitest of All Gods" (Heimdall) the only jet black one.
Bizarre that they raceswapped most of the asian characters, no one asked for that either
It's racist.
It's not Namor
It's Nuhmorrrr
I liked him and the Talokans, unironically the only superhero movie ever where even the nameless mooks were incredibly dangerous and hard to deal with.
My thoughts on MCU is "Burn DEI burn".
Horrible. Not bombastic or over the top enough. I don't mind the Mesoamerican origin at all, but he's not Namor. He's way too toned down. Which on itself is bad, but I also consider him a test for how well they can do Doom and no. Nope.
>Thoughts on MCU Namor, Cinemaphile?
Ugly - he should be the actor, women should go just to see him
Fat - WTF Kevin Feige?
Out of shape
Total disrespect for comic books
Namora? they took the leotard off again, first Gamora, then Carol Danvers and Mantis, Sersi and now Namora. If Namora was inspired by
Esther Williams, what did Feiige do? He chose a Latina actress. What's wrong with blondes? They took a tiny actress with no physical appeal, we're talking about a superhero franchise, the actors have to be in the physical shape of athletes, I'm not surprised that the genre is dead, because it's in the hands of people who hate the source, hate to respect what was done in the comic books. If you're an investor you're crazy for putting money on Kevin Feige.
I can't believe they found a way to make him look even gayer and smellier than the comic character does
Man was packing so much schmeat they had to digitally remove his giant sea serpent from every scene he's in.
Also this movie fricking sucked and anyone who pretends it didn't is too easily manipulated by hamfisted pathos that exploits the death of a real person to promote a bad movie
Haven't seen the movie but I'd bang
I like that one meme where he looks down at the Queen's boobs
Again?
I thought I would hate him but I ended up liking him in the end. He tried to seduce Shuri, and had ruthlessly attacked Wakanda the same way Namor always does. His armor was pretty cool and and a nice adaptation of his usual look. His attitude was spot on imo, he switched from sorta friendly to a massive threat well
>and had ruthlessly attacked Wakanda the same way Namor always does
FRICKING hickman
I more meant cities in general but typed Wakanda instead. I liked that major characters were killed/injured and the general citizens too not even by Namor but that giant wave thing Atlanteans do
I always thought it was a pretty cook attack despite being pretty basic
The flood adds a whole other layer of danger to the situation, especially with fish people and their creatures swimming in it. That's one of the things that disappointed me about this portrayal. Namor and the Atlanteans almost always have some kind of gigantic creature backing them up and while I get that maybe there wasn't a place for a giant monster attack in the movie, not seeing any unique kinds of creature beyond some plants iirc, feels like a missed opportunity.
Marvels earths have all kinds of weird creatures and giant monsters walking/swimming around and I just figured with them being open to showing creatures like the ones in the Thor and Guardians movies or the more magical side of the world with Werewolf by Night and Moon Knight, this ancient city would have a few cool aides beyond a couple of whales
We are not going to see him again and that's a good thing
Doub it, his demandant was bought, she hasn't speaked in months, it was a dumb lawsuit anyway, they were already fricking, he just took off the condom and she went apeshit.
I liked him
It was funny how wet fangirls got over him
Garbage like the rest of the MShitU