Two of the most badly written characters of all time square off in the ultimate Tournament of the Sues to crown the ultimate Mary Sue. In one corner, we have Avatar Korra from Nickelodeon's The Legend of Korra and opposite of her we have Rey Skywalker from Disney's and Lucasfilms' Star Wars sequels.
Both of these characters also share similar, if not identical, character traits and design.
• Both wear their hair up in a tail.
• Both utilizes a staff as their primary weapon. (We're not bringing lightsabers into this.)
• Both are wielders of telekinesis in the forms of the bending disciplines and The Force, both of which were inspired by Qi in Chinese philosophy.
In the Tournament of Sues, who advances to get a shot at being crowned the Ultimate Mary Sue? And who would win in combat?
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Korra is written fine and Rey isn't poorly written either.
How can I say that about Rey?
Well to be poorly written you first have to BE written at all.
Seriously, watch episode 9 again, it felt like they told everyone to stand in front of the camera and make up the shit as they went along.
Also bait thread.
How about you get your woke Disney trash out of Cinemaphile, you fricking moron? Korra is an absolute chad since a lot of the bros at Nickelodeon actually know what the frick they are doing. Fricking moronic libcucks like you piss me the frick off.
>Korra is written fine
Could have used stronger writing but I didn't hate her so okay I guess
>Rey isn't poorly written either.
Strongly disagree. The last to films in trilogy pull her character in opposite directions, if two writers disagree what to do with a character then there's bad writing involved. Either JJ Abrhams was right to basically retcon Rians ideas or he was in the wrong to do so, you have to throw one of them under the bus.
Frick off.
You mad?
Are you fricking moronic?
Korra got her ass kicked far often to be a mary sue.
> Korra got her ass kicked far often to be a mary sue.
That may be, but she was still called one during the show's initial run. Especially by the people here.
I believe it had something to do with everything being attributed to her more than her tendencies at losing battles.
>That may be, but she was still called one during the show's initial run. Especially by the people here.
Some people tried calling her a mary sue, but I mainly remember people almost universally calling her a worthless failure when the show was running.
OP posted this thread on Cinemaphile.
Mary Sue is a meaningless term these days. People call any character they irrationally hate a Mary Sue.
The girl on the left looks like she'd dig me.
The girl on the right looks like a woke female ripoff of me.
Still being mad about Korra after all these years is psychotic.
I really don't get why Korra is hated so much. She's a bit dull and I think didn't end up developing as well as I'd hoped but she's fine.
I have a lot of opinions that'd be considered chud-tier but I like her. Honestly my biggest gripe is the corny fanservice romances they kept writing her into which felt completely plastic and irrelevant to the development of either character involved. Not to mention how thoroughly unemotional they were.
Being the sequel to AtLA, Legend of Korra had high expectations. And by god they quite a few of those expectations. The visuals are top notch, the action is great, the music is solid (though perhaps not quite as memorable at AtLA), the voice acting is good. It's a worthy successor in many technical terms, aside from some goofiness like the dumb looking mechs. Where the show truly failed as a successor was its writing and Korra is the heart of it. It's not just that she's the figurehead, but she herself is one of the core writing issues. The show bullies the shit out of her, making a spectacle of having her poor decisions blow up in her face. It's awkward because she's too abrasive and stupid to really pity her yet she's too strong to really root for her as an underdog. You just have to abide by her because she's the protagonist and she's not going anywhere.
And one of the key things here is that they're fighting an uphill battle to make her unlikable. She's a hot, brown, muscular tomboy with big breasts. Her design is practically perfect, especially for Cinemaphilemrades back in 2012. Bryke had to put in work to make people dislike such perfect waifu material.
Ma. Palpatin wins this contest, she is less a character and more of a propaganda tool
and as for korra
this anon put it well
There is no cogent argument against The Legend of Korra, it is a masterpiece. The fact of the matter is that avatards are incapable of comphrehending this thing called "character flaws". That is literally it, TLOK is too mature for these people. There is a reason Avatar The LAst Airbender is considered a children's cartoon while The Legend of Korra is considered adult animation.
Just look at this shit
It's nothing but unintelligable gibberish. Not a single sentence worth reading in that entire post.
>There is no cogent argument against The Legend of Korra, it is a masterpiece.
Its not, its poorly paced. The male protagonists are dumb boring teenagers. Its a lot less imaginative and free than ATLA and mostly tries to appeal to teenagers over Korra feeling trapped than trying to properly worldbuild. And when it tries to worldbuild, it just shits all over the lore. All the villains are boring and dumb except for Kuvira, but she was also shafted when the writers realized they wrote her to be in the right.
Also, Korra just spends the whole series getting her ass kicked and having her only learn one element was incredibly dumb.
See? Nothing but vile, hateful drivel without rhyme or reason.
>Dark Avatar
There, I destroyed your entire post in 2 words
Nah Korra is much better character than Rey,she constantly fricks up and has many character flaws that people generally don't like at first
Korra is the absolute furthest thing from a Mary Sue anyone could possibly be.
Korra got her shit kicked in by Kuvira in a fair 1 on 1 fight.
I didn't find Rey to be much of a mary sue up until TROS ironically, just a bland character and the least interesting of the ST trio.
Like her most mary sue-ish act in TFA was easily mind tricking the stormtrooper but the rest of her feats in that film could be explained by her knowing how to fight since she lived in a harsh desert world alone for most of her life and the Force giving her the willpower to stand up to Kylo Ren.
She definitely wasn't a mary sue in TLJ because she's constantly getting tricked and tortured, she wasn't even the one to motivate Luke to train her or save the day.
It was in TROS when they establish her as a Palpatine that she actually feels like a mary sue because they really hammer home how special she is because of her retconned heritage.
>Wait whats this?
>OH MY GOD ITS AHSOKA WITH A STEEL CHAIR!
you cant say rey is a mary sue but say that ahsoka isnt, shes way worse
I don't think Korra is a Mary Sue. She was only considered one because she knew three elements as a toddler, but beyond that there was nothing else. Rey is a Mary Sue for sure
Korra isnt really a mary sue. Sure, having her start knowing all the elements except for air when she was a toddler was moronic but Korra actually spends most of the show getting her shit kicked in and having everybody else save her.
This board needs moderation stat, incels like OP are startinbg to feel free to post their revolting garbage here now.
This is nothing in comparison with the curing lesbianism threads, or the helluvaboss threads. Those are the designated incel threads.
its not even close. Korra is an actual character with actual problems. Even if some of the seasons are written terribly.
Ray doesn't have actual problems her plots are all just get the mcguffin. She's never weak, even fails and is never wrong.
I'd let both ride my wiener
>In the Tournament of Sues, who advances to get a shot at being crowned the Ultimate Mary Sue? And who would win in combat?
Rey would win. She's the type of sue who wins every combat encounter.
Korra, on the other hand, gets beaten up a lot because her writers think physical abuse is character development.
Korra's way hotter though. 3DPD.
I bet Rey's feet smell incredible
Korra is not a Mary Sue. She's a huge frickup that gets handled with baby gloves by her allies because she's grossly unqualified but is also the only person in the world who can serve in that role. Her being a prodigy only means she peaked early.
I refused to watch the sequel trilogy so I have no clue about Rey.
Alright, fine
>authorial self-insert/wish-fulfilment
Rey wins.
Bryke are two moronic dudes while Kathleen is very, very overt with her "force is female" shtick. Even if we want to say they were both trying to write inserts for girls, Kathleen is obsessed.
>Sue is tenuously connected to significant canon main characters in attempt to legitimize them and co-opt their abilities
Rey wins.
"Palpatine-Skywalker" legit sounds like something an autistic 12 year old with come up with in order for their fanfic character to have Sith force lightning while still being a respected Jedi connected to Luke.
Sure Korra is the Avatar, but that it the premise of the show. I will say it's fricking moronic that she also just happens to be exiled royalty. Sokka and Katara were kids of the chief but Hakoda was in charge of a couple igloos, Korra is the Avatar and a fricking princess for no reason.
>Sue is liked by everyone/anyone who dislikes the Sue is either evil or incompetent or grows to like them
Rey wins.
She becomes a leader in the rebellion while having the charisma of poster tack, everyone is constantly massaging her self-esteem until Luke but he's a spineless attempted child murderer letting the galaxy burn.
Korra has this a bit too but for the most part a lot of people dislike her, especially the public, and with good reason.
>Sue masters skills and abilities instantly
Rey wins.
Korra mastered the Avatar State without opening any of her chakras, but she still gets her ass beat so much I believe it's Bryke's fetish.