season 1 sucks. i dont like telling people that, especially for this type of "silly adult animation that is secretly really deep" but it gets way better as it goes on for sure.
Season 1 is only decent after you've finished the show and go back and revisit it. The jokes feel a bit forced, and all of the character development doesn't really have context until you've seen the rest of the show.
I liked it overall but the last 2 seasons started to drag on and get old. All the characters became exaggerated version of themselves. Netflix made the right call by ending it but they were a little late. Also, it should've ended on the penultimate episode with Bojack dying.
I watched it at the request of my (female) wife. It had its funny episodes and was overall entertaining, but it lacked the depth that twitter fans led me to believe it had.
Always was. Shame it ended. They could have done three more seasons with the writing quality they were churning out and I would have been a very happy viewer.
The ending ruins it. The beginning and middle seasons show that Bojack is misunderstood and that someone like Mr Peanutbutter gets more love and attention because he's like everybody else. Then because of shitty modern israeli nepo writers it turns out Bojack is *obviously* an evil Harvey Weinstein/Cosby guy who deserves literal judicial punishment for doing nothing.
Anon....he got judicial punishment for breaking into his former home (sold to a family). The ending episodes aren't really about what he did to women, but that the past catches up with you and that Bojack had opportunities to be something better. He had a great aptitude for directing and teaching, and if he had focused his earlier life on those things he wouldn't have gotten sad enough to go visit Charlotte and all therein, or slept with Sarah Lynn when she was down and out, etc.
It was metaphorical though. It was supposed to be a punishment for Sarah Lynn and Penny despite how nothing he did was really morally wrong. It's obvious they were actually examples of depresses or mentally ill people in Bojacks life. That's what all of the characters are. They're representations of greater concepts because the show is a parable. But nah. Make it about MeToo and Diane being fat after taking SSRIs and nothing being wrong with it.
The opposite for me. I loved it when it was airing, thinking about it in hindsight makes me cringe, it's self fellating indulgent depression slop and remembering how much I connected with it makes me wince
The first 4 seasons invite you to identify with BoJack, the show has an identity crisis after that and you can see the basedbeard showrunner starts self inserting as Diane instead which is mega cringe because it's an unironic walking soijak with the bald head, beard, glasses and all using this Vietnamese millennial liberal feminist as the "morally correct" figure of the show and vehicle for his feelings and ideas.
Western Millenials can NEVER write effective stories about depression because they're way too self pitying and indulgent. Look at Shinji Ikari, that's a true expression of manic depression that makes most the audience hate the character, and it should, because that's what real life depressed people are like. It should not be romanticized with le sad emo indie music and epic quotes about how love is fake and shit, it should be a brutal and honest introspection if you want to tackle something like that
Why? Because he’s not cool enough to self insert as? That’s exactly why he’s a better depiction of a depressed person than BoJack, it should not be someone you want to identify with, and if you do see yourself in them it shouldn’t feel pleasant or empowering
If you’re going to romanticise it at all it should be a climb out of depression through strength and discipline like Taxi Driver, not a downward spiral complimented by sad indie music and quotes about how life sucks
You identifying with early-show Bojack while also seeing that as "cringe" now but not realizing the missing connection and assuming you and the show were in-tune is the issue. And that other guy is right, get a time machine or stop fellating that wallpaper trash.
>Assuming you and the show were in-tune on the issue
If you’d asked me back then I would’ve told you the show isn’t romanticising depression, that it’s depiction of BoJack is objective and critical and doesn’t invite you to like or identify with him. That’s obviously what the show wants you to believe, it’s what the show insists it had always been with the meta commentary in Philbert, but it’s absolutely not true.
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The ending ruins it. The beginning and middle seasons show that Bojack is misunderstood and that someone like Mr Peanutbutter gets more love and attention because he's like everybody else. Then because of shitty modern israeli nepo writers it turns out Bojack is *obviously* an evil Harvey Weinstein/Cosby guy who deserves literal judicial punishment for doing nothing.
stated it does a complete 180 in the final seasons. The first 4 are obviously very sympathetic to BoJack and the struggles he experiences are obviously very personal to the creator in the most self indulgent homosexual millennial way possible, you don’t give a critical character study of a self destructive mentally ill person by making them give sad monologues about how hard their life is while sad music plays in the background obviously suggesting you should be feeling sorry for him
Princess Carolyn is the only good character tbh senpai
>you don’t give a critical character study of a self destructive mentally ill person by making them give sad monologues about how hard their life is while sad music plays in the background obviously suggesting you should be feeling sorry for him
I don't understand is that a criticism of 5 and 6 because that doesn't happen.
great series. tbh i feel it peaked at season 4 and while i really liked the following ones and was satisfied with the ending, it never quite reached that peak again
5 and 6 had really great moments that resonated with me. I've always loved PC's opening bit in 5x12 when she's trying to pitch Philbert, how we can get so wrapped up in stories that life might seem like just stories.
It's not, I kept watching hoping it would get better, there were so many ways to make the show better and they just kept writing it into the ground.
I'm convinced this was an elaborate joke by the writers to make an anti-show
It was okay, I think I quit in the second last season because it was getting kinda boring. I liked the deeper moments that went into Bojack’s depression but all the humor between those moments generally didn’t do much for me. Like Todd wasn’t that funny to me but they used him a lot
I'm never contrarian. It is definitely good, but inconsistent. First episodes of S1 are also really rough. Should have ended at the second-to-last episode. I love how they wrote for Amy Sedaris, giving her tongue twister lines since they knew she does that kind of thing perfectly.
great series. tbh i feel it peaked at season 4 and while i really liked the following ones and was satisfied with the ending, it never quite reached that peak again
the fact that they clearly could've made the exact same show without the wacky animal people instantly turns me off this millennial wank
in short >normal words, but a horse guy
no wonder it was forgotten within a week of ending
Horse words, normal guy
I wasn't being contrarian.
no
I watched like the first season and I don’t remember liking it. But the episode where they did drugs was sort of entertaining for a minute there
season 1 sucks. i dont like telling people that, especially for this type of "silly adult animation that is secretly really deep" but it gets way better as it goes on for sure.
Season 1 is only decent after you've finished the show and go back and revisit it. The jokes feel a bit forced, and all of the character development doesn't really have context until you've seen the rest of the show.
fell asleep episode 1
It is, but the creator is an insufferable woke homosexual who can't even appreciate his own show because of how obsessed he is with idpol.
lucky there’s a horse guy
I want to frick Mr. Peanutbutter.
t. white woman
I liked it overall but the last 2 seasons started to drag on and get old. All the characters became exaggerated version of themselves. Netflix made the right call by ending it but they were a little late. Also, it should've ended on the penultimate episode with Bojack dying.
I watched it at the request of my (female) wife. It had its funny episodes and was overall entertaining, but it lacked the depth that twitter fans led me to believe it had.
It was good when I watched it, it's good now. What else is there to say? It's not like it has any serious competition.
No, it's trash written by women for women
Always was. Shame it ended. They could have done three more seasons with the writing quality they were churning out and I would have been a very happy viewer.
The ending ruins it. The beginning and middle seasons show that Bojack is misunderstood and that someone like Mr Peanutbutter gets more love and attention because he's like everybody else. Then because of shitty modern israeli nepo writers it turns out Bojack is *obviously* an evil Harvey Weinstein/Cosby guy who deserves literal judicial punishment for doing nothing.
Anon....he got judicial punishment for breaking into his former home (sold to a family). The ending episodes aren't really about what he did to women, but that the past catches up with you and that Bojack had opportunities to be something better. He had a great aptitude for directing and teaching, and if he had focused his earlier life on those things he wouldn't have gotten sad enough to go visit Charlotte and all therein, or slept with Sarah Lynn when she was down and out, etc.
It was metaphorical though. It was supposed to be a punishment for Sarah Lynn and Penny despite how nothing he did was really morally wrong. It's obvious they were actually examples of depresses or mentally ill people in Bojacks life. That's what all of the characters are. They're representations of greater concepts because the show is a parable. But nah. Make it about MeToo and Diane being fat after taking SSRIs and nothing being wrong with it.
>It was supposed to be a punishment for Sarah Lynn and Penny
I think you read too many posts on the internet about it
Everyone I know irl who likes this show is a giant butthole
The opposite for me. I loved it when it was airing, thinking about it in hindsight makes me cringe, it's self fellating indulgent depression slop and remembering how much I connected with it makes me wince
The first 4 seasons invite you to identify with BoJack, the show has an identity crisis after that and you can see the basedbeard showrunner starts self inserting as Diane instead which is mega cringe because it's an unironic walking soijak with the bald head, beard, glasses and all using this Vietnamese millennial liberal feminist as the "morally correct" figure of the show and vehicle for his feelings and ideas.
Western Millenials can NEVER write effective stories about depression because they're way too self pitying and indulgent. Look at Shinji Ikari, that's a true expression of manic depression that makes most the audience hate the character, and it should, because that's what real life depressed people are like. It should not be romanticized with le sad emo indie music and epic quotes about how love is fake and shit, it should be a brutal and honest introspection if you want to tackle something like that
You completely humiliated yourself as soon as you mentioned Shinji Ikari.
Why? Because he’s not cool enough to self insert as? That’s exactly why he’s a better depiction of a depressed person than BoJack, it should not be someone you want to identify with, and if you do see yourself in them it shouldn’t feel pleasant or empowering
If you’re going to romanticise it at all it should be a climb out of depression through strength and discipline like Taxi Driver, not a downward spiral complimented by sad indie music and quotes about how life sucks
>I'm so fricked up
>Taxi Driver
have a nice day
You identifying with early-show Bojack while also seeing that as "cringe" now but not realizing the missing connection and assuming you and the show were in-tune is the issue. And that other guy is right, get a time machine or stop fellating that wallpaper trash.
>Assuming you and the show were in-tune on the issue
If you’d asked me back then I would’ve told you the show isn’t romanticising depression, that it’s depiction of BoJack is objective and critical and doesn’t invite you to like or identify with him. That’s obviously what the show wants you to believe, it’s what the show insists it had always been with the meta commentary in Philbert, but it’s absolutely not true.
Like
stated it does a complete 180 in the final seasons. The first 4 are obviously very sympathetic to BoJack and the struggles he experiences are obviously very personal to the creator in the most self indulgent homosexual millennial way possible, you don’t give a critical character study of a self destructive mentally ill person by making them give sad monologues about how hard their life is while sad music plays in the background obviously suggesting you should be feeling sorry for him
Princess Carolyn is the only good character tbh senpai
>you don’t give a critical character study of a self destructive mentally ill person by making them give sad monologues about how hard their life is while sad music plays in the background obviously suggesting you should be feeling sorry for him
I don't understand is that a criticism of 5 and 6 because that doesn't happen.
5 and 6 had really great moments that resonated with me. I've always loved PC's opening bit in 5x12 when she's trying to pitch Philbert, how we can get so wrapped up in stories that life might seem like just stories.
>I don't understand is that a criticism of 5 and 6
No I was talking about 1-4
>Normal words but a horse guy is better than Taxi Driver
Millennial redditors really think this way
They're both shit, moron
It's not, I kept watching hoping it would get better, there were so many ways to make the show better and they just kept writing it into the ground.
I'm convinced this was an elaborate joke by the writers to make an anti-show
It was okay, I think I quit in the second last season because it was getting kinda boring. I liked the deeper moments that went into Bojack’s depression but all the humor between those moments generally didn’t do much for me. Like Todd wasn’t that funny to me but they used him a lot
Wasn't too funny, the drama felt forced, it's ugly to look at
I'm never contrarian. It is definitely good, but inconsistent. First episodes of S1 are also really rough. Should have ended at the second-to-last episode. I love how they wrote for Amy Sedaris, giving her tongue twister lines since they knew she does that kind of thing perfectly.
>The last episode sucks
>The penultimate episode is beyond-kino
Why tv shows are like this?
I want to be Princess Caroline's savior.
great series. tbh i feel it peaked at season 4 and while i really liked the following ones and was satisfied with the ending, it never quite reached that peak again
the fact that they clearly could've made the exact same show without the wacky animal people instantly turns me off this millennial wank
in short
>normal words, but a horse guy
no wonder it was forgotten within a week of ending
You wouldn't have 100% of the animal based humor anon.
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not gonna watch it