Keep digging yourself a deeper hole, autizmo. The movie is actually liked by reddltors and other midwits such as you who don't know what a good movie is.
Nobody's saying it's impossible to understand but that the story is awfully told and pretentious/convoluted. It does LeCarre a disservice and the fact that the director's career tanked after Snow Man is 100% predictable
3 months ago
Anonymous
I ain't reading all that shit homie, put it in gif form right after you're finished jerking off to Tarkovsky stills.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Ofc you're not, you express yourself with words such as "homie". You're outside looking in and you don't understand anything about cinema.
3 months ago
Anonymous
So how's the directing career going? You seem to know a lot about it. I can tell you're a true visionary. I bet loads of people respect your opinions
3 months ago
Anonymous
So you're both ignorant about movies and logic--- that's a low IQ ad hominem argument. You've embarrassed yourself enough already, dummy
3 months ago
Anonymous
The saddest sight in life is the dumb Cinemaphilener who takes himself seriously and think anyone cares about his dimwitted opinion lol
Go post in Cinemaphile, you'll fit right in with all the burger- flipping pseuds there
the movie and the show are pretty much identical, except the show is slower. the show has a single line somewhere in the middle that tries to explain why everyone is so "stiff."
it wasn't about the cold war though, it was about russians trying to make britain a part of the cold war by feeding them information, to access american intelligence.
Why were these British civil servants all wearing expensive designer suits and working in stylish looking offices? The entire look was stupid and didn't fit the era or the job.
People would have an easier time understanding this film if they were told it was a condensed narrative then a cryptic puzzle to solve. Spycraft really is this boring.
I agree about the editing, some of the cuts were really off-putting but the ponderous tone is needed for a narrative this slow-moving. This is one of the salient features of the source material and it's important the film captured this. This is reality and these are the men that engage in this sort of business.
There was no nuance of tone. Brits know very well how be witty even if it's in a wry way. The acting was overly stiff.
I remember a scene where Oldman replies "'ll do my utmost" that clearly called for some lighter ambiguity but he sounds overly morose.
Do you mean when Smiley promises Tarr that he'll do his utmost to get his Russian squeeze back? He's morose because he knows she's already dead, Jim Prideaux told him. He's lying to Tarr because it's the only way to ensure he sticks to the plan.
Probably. A bleak/dark humor tone would take the weight off the movie even if the themes it was dealing with were serious etc. It sounds overly elegiac/one-note
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's a Cold War drama rife with treachery, betrayal, paranoia and death set in bleak 1970's Britain which was undergoing massive economic decline. And you want it to be more comedic? What is wrong with Americans, did it not have enough Joss Whedon quips for you? Should Prideaux have leapt up and punched the air after shooting Hayden while The Who rings out in the background? Did it need a blooper reel too?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Because of those aspects, having a sparkle here and there would have made the movie less boring and heavyhanded. It doesn't flow.
He’s right. Go back.
You're both midwits. Educate yourselves about script-writing.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Because of those aspects, having a sparkle here and there would have made the movie less boring and heavyhanded. It doesn't flow.
Anon you cannot be serious with this opinion. Sure some levity would've been nice but it is entirely unneeded when the narrative hinges on such dark and morbid themes. Macbeth, Hamlet and Lear seem to do just fine having been excised of any moments of lightness.
3 months ago
Anonymous
American here don't lump us all in with those overthinking morons.
Granted I started a thread about The Stand (2020) the other day where I complained that it was too grim and bleak, did not have enough joy and levity (not Whedongarbage). But TTSP was fine in this regard. It's fake complaining.
apparently you have to pay very close attention when watching this movie. i didn't and i had no clue wtf was going on. left the theater thinking "ok score one for the good guys. right? right?"
Unnecessarily clunky/blocky editing and self-important in tone.
Watch the miniseries on youtube, it's good
Anyone who complains about the TTSS film won't last through one episode of the TV series. Their loss.
Oh, and you
Please watch the attached gif.
>Please watch the attached gif.
Lack of counterarguments amounts to conceding the point.
Back to r*ddit you go, gay.
Also do people really not understand this film? Did IQs just suddenly drop while I was gone?
Keep digging yourself a deeper hole, autizmo. The movie is actually liked by reddltors and other midwits such as you who don't know what a good movie is.
Nobody's saying it's impossible to understand but that the story is awfully told and pretentious/convoluted. It does LeCarre a disservice and the fact that the director's career tanked after Snow Man is 100% predictable
I ain't reading all that shit homie, put it in gif form right after you're finished jerking off to Tarkovsky stills.
Ofc you're not, you express yourself with words such as "homie". You're outside looking in and you don't understand anything about cinema.
So how's the directing career going? You seem to know a lot about it. I can tell you're a true visionary. I bet loads of people respect your opinions
So you're both ignorant about movies and logic--- that's a low IQ ad hominem argument. You've embarrassed yourself enough already, dummy
The saddest sight in life is the dumb Cinemaphilener who takes himself seriously and think anyone cares about his dimwitted opinion lol
Go post in Cinemaphile, you'll fit right in with all the burger- flipping pseuds there
He’s right. Go back.
The show probably explains what's happening and doesn't use confusing editing.
the movie and the show are pretty much identical, except the show is slower. the show has a single line somewhere in the middle that tries to explain why everyone is so "stiff."
the TV series was amazing. sad to know the BBC is no longer capable of producing kino like that
this
who was the spy anyway? didn't watch til the end
it was tinker
Everyone said this was hard to follow so I paid very close attention whilst I watched and still had no idea what was going on.
it's not hard to follow, but it's pretty pointless and non interesting
>The Cold War was "pointless".
zoomer...
it wasn't about the cold war though, it was about russians trying to make britain a part of the cold war by feeding them information, to access american intelligence.
Fantastic movie
If you didn't watch tinker taylor soldier spy tomorrow morning, how much would you understand it in the evening?
Why were these British civil servants all wearing expensive designer suits and working in stylish looking offices? The entire look was stupid and didn't fit the era or the job.
What? They looked like shit and their office is suicide-inducing. Perfectly British.
You are one of those people who thinks anything Brits do is "fancy".
>I love it when they say they are "going to the loo"!
Bong here, I have an American friend and hearing her say 'I gotta nip to the loo' is somehow both jarring and adorable.
Also her mum was German and her dad was a black American GI stationed in West Germany. Many such cases!
>her dad was a black
I wish you had started your little story with that part, would have saved me some time.
Huh?
>>her dad was a black
I wish you had started your little story with that part, would have saved me some time.
This is the most boring movie I've ever seen, and I consider 2001 to be the GOAT.
People would have an easier time understanding this film if they were told it was a condensed narrative then a cryptic puzzle to solve. Spycraft really is this boring.
The disastrous editing and ponderous tone were both cumbersome.
I agree about the editing, some of the cuts were really off-putting but the ponderous tone is needed for a narrative this slow-moving. This is one of the salient features of the source material and it's important the film captured this. This is reality and these are the men that engage in this sort of business.
There was no nuance of tone. Brits know very well how be witty even if it's in a wry way. The acting was overly stiff.
I remember a scene where Oldman replies "'ll do my utmost" that clearly called for some lighter ambiguity but he sounds overly morose.
Do you mean when Smiley promises Tarr that he'll do his utmost to get his Russian squeeze back? He's morose because he knows she's already dead, Jim Prideaux told him. He's lying to Tarr because it's the only way to ensure he sticks to the plan.
Probably. A bleak/dark humor tone would take the weight off the movie even if the themes it was dealing with were serious etc. It sounds overly elegiac/one-note
It's a Cold War drama rife with treachery, betrayal, paranoia and death set in bleak 1970's Britain which was undergoing massive economic decline. And you want it to be more comedic? What is wrong with Americans, did it not have enough Joss Whedon quips for you? Should Prideaux have leapt up and punched the air after shooting Hayden while The Who rings out in the background? Did it need a blooper reel too?
Because of those aspects, having a sparkle here and there would have made the movie less boring and heavyhanded. It doesn't flow.
You're both midwits. Educate yourselves about script-writing.
>Because of those aspects, having a sparkle here and there would have made the movie less boring and heavyhanded. It doesn't flow.
Anon you cannot be serious with this opinion. Sure some levity would've been nice but it is entirely unneeded when the narrative hinges on such dark and morbid themes. Macbeth, Hamlet and Lear seem to do just fine having been excised of any moments of lightness.
American here don't lump us all in with those overthinking morons.
Granted I started a thread about The Stand (2020) the other day where I complained that it was too grim and bleak, did not have enough joy and levity (not Whedongarbage). But TTSP was fine in this regard. It's fake complaining.
Bender Bumder Poofter Nonce
>OPs shit opinion
apparently you have to pay very close attention when watching this movie. i didn't and i had no clue wtf was going on. left the theater thinking "ok score one for the good guys. right? right?"
I remember let the right one in was my favorite movie at the time so i wanted to watch this one but the critics put me off. I have to give it a chance