1. Cyril O'Reily
2. Omar White
3. Dino Ortolani
4. Chris Keller
5. Adebisi
Yes or no?
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Top 5 best fighters in Oz
1. Cyril O'Reily
2. Omar White
3. Dino Ortolani
4. Chris Keller
5. Adebisi
Yes or no?
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Sounds about right, but that one Muslim that almost beat Cyril until Ryan agitated him should be maybe #3
what the frick was his problem?
Starts off as a guy who genuinely wants to make a change for the better. Then when his ideas demonstrably don't work he, instead of admitting he was wrong, doubles down and makes things much much worse instead.
How did he makes thing worse after admitting he can't fix anything?
Ego
What no dinner does to a mf
Bleeding heart liberal refusing to admit his ideas don't work.
That's true
>Bleeding heart liberal refusing to admit his ideas don't work.
The truth.
Querns might as well be a liberal for legalizing drugs in EM city
Guys what moronic idea will McManus come up with this week?
>Hear me out Leo, we should pair troubled kids from juvenile hall with the inmates at Em City
>They can learn how to be responsible parents!
>Ok, WHAT IF: we let all the gangs do teambuilding exercises
>Two words Leo: Creative Writing
>I know tensions have been building up between the guards and the prisoners over the past few weeks, Leo, and I think I have the solution - what if, on one day each week, we reverse their roles? We'll make the prisoners the guards and the guards like prisoners - I really think this will help each side understand the perspective...
>Why do I feel like I've heard this somewhere?
I'd watch it
Kek. This one wouldn't even surprise after some of the actual shit he imposed.
you have to give mcmanus credit for his stubborn moronic idealism
remember when poet was his pet project and returned to oz a few episodes after getting out?
>remember when poet was his pet project and returned to oz a few episodes after getting out?
Yes. I physically cringed
At what part? The pet project thing or him returning to prison?
>The pet project thing or him returning to prison?
Him returning to prison after being a pet project, I almost felt bad for McManus
Liberals be like
>Okay, I got an idea on the way back from the Romanian diner.
>We give all the prisoners pit bulls so they can learn to take care of another living thing
>We can have a dog show at the end of the year and the best pound for pound dog wins the show and a week of no labor pass.
They already kind of did that plot, but with normal dogs
They already gave them dogs McManus has done basically every moronic thing possible it's hard to top.
Just started rewatching the series, unless I'm mistaken doesn't he bring in a bunch of refugees? Gee what could go wrong.
Literally everything that could go wrong goes wrong
Was there ever a truly happy surprise for anyone on the show?
No that's basically why the show is moronic I still love it and participate in these threads though. I don't mind the whole "bad guy wins" thing but the show takes it to the point where everything is predictable.
>oh they started a new program for the prisoners
>I wonder who is going to get murdered in a moronic way
I would love a gritty HBO prison drama that was realistic then again prison is supposedly really fricking boring.
>then again prison is supposedly really fricking boring.
Anything can be made into a great show with good writers, editing, acting and directing.
Being in the military is also boring as shit 99% of the time, just waiting around and nothing happening most of the time.
A TV show cuts out all the boring times and focuses on the stuff that does happen.
God I'd KILL for a modern HBO prison show
glynn was the one guy that really rubbed me wrong him getting killed, at least every prisoner you could say oh they shouldn't have done the crime but glynn, and uhh cedric daniels really didn't deserve their fate
oh yeah and the christian guy, did he ever reveal bad motives? dude was a str8 saint and they gave him one of the worst endings
the refugee part is just sad, they are hardly even real criminals yet they throw them in with rapists and murderers with barely any protection
McManus and the rest are criminal for putting them in there
>Let's put the stowaway refugees directly in the middle of the most dangerous prison unit in the entire world where multiple fatalities happen every single week
Oh wait he actually did that
Wtf were they thinking
He was an egghead who thought the world actually was the way he saw it. By the time he figured out it wasnt, that he wasnt even close; he got bitter.
He also became a literal egghead
Liberalism brain slug
>choosing Strength instead of Charisma
NGMI
>had no gang or friends really at all
>constant conniving and backstabbing
he had too much plot armor and should have been raped or stabbed
Realistically yeah
I say it in every thread. O'Reilly surviving is the most unrealistic thing in the entire show, and that's including wolverine nails and aging pills.
wolverine claws was so moronic i enjoyed it, i try to forget about aging pills
I saved the wolverine meme, thank you
What meme?
aging pills were a one episode thing anyway while there was stuff like rebadow being able to talk to god and get specific information from him whenever the plot required from the beginning
not that i'm complaining, oz would be too grimdark if there wasnt goofy stuff happening
I feel the same about Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul
But Ryans stuff was entertaining while the aging pill shit was shit
Wasnt he stabbed at least once?
I feel like we're forgetting at least one moronic storyline
The priest guy who gets set on fire just magically disappearing? Or the lottery thing? There are a couple of moronic story lines you need to be more specific.
>Goddamnit Leo they need real pencils to write their short stories how are they suppose to function out there in society when they can't even compose a decent narrative
>The priest guy who gets set on fire just magically disappearing? Or the lottery thing? There are a couple of moronic story lines you need to be more specific.
Oh yeah the priest thing
>And they need them in different colors too, how else are they supposed to draw illustrations of multiracial communities to overcome their prejudices
I always like McManus and Glenn's dynamic
yeah they're always pretty supportive of eachother even though it seems like its not gonna be that way
the governor hiring an inmate to kill another inmate and eventually glynn was up there too
Shit I honestly don't remember that one
I can't remember. Why did he want him dead? Also how kino would've of it been if we got a 7th season and The Governor ended up in OZ lol
Cant recal. And yeah it would have been fun to see him get shat on. He was a very hatable character.
Demon possession storyline? Or maybe the serial killer nurse who goes around killing her patients (I feel like this one doesn't get enough reference)
>Demon possession storyline?
Thats the one I was thinking of!
He got given heavy plot armor because the writers didn't want to turn the irish american Boston viewers off.
why is Dino Ortolani on the list, didn't he get gang raped and turned into a prag
You're confusing based Dino with Peter Schibetta
schibetta more like schibussy haha
No that was his cousin
Kareem Said pronounced like "he said"
I realized that the Beecher/Keller relationship is the first glimpse of a homosexual relationship I was ever exposed to
not your two dads?
You my friend, are hilarious
Great gif
First male/male relationship I saw
Did you like what you saw?
Yes
You done good
EXECUTION DAY, BABY
AHHHHHHHHHH
Said should be on that list for the beating he gave Omar.
He also defeated Adebisi
Omar isn't exactly very threatening
he kicked wolfgang's ass, and that guy was possibly the toughest aryan
Fair, I forgot about that
That guy is built like a brick shithouse.
That is the only Omar scene I enjoyed. Now come attack me like the last time I said I hated that jar jar binks sounding motherfricker. Poet too, with his gay ass rapping.
poet was gay but when he went full gangster he became more bearable
Why was Robson so JUST?
>got raped by his father as a child
>jobbed to Beecher in his debut episode and was written as a one-off character
>jobbed to Said twice in the span of two episodes
>jobbed to a fricking dentist
>got spooned, raped and pozzed by Cutler
JOBson... had a hard life...
I always thought Robson was the burn local guy.
>CRAAAAAAWLIIIING IIIIIIIIIN MYYYYY SKIIIIIIIN
funny they make him overtly racist and hateful to try and make all that other shit not happen but I still end up feeling more sorry for him than most characters besides a few one offs like the guy that shot kenny or the guy with the cellphone
>The guy with the cellphone
I kind of remember him but what happened to him that was sad?
it just bummed me out how ignorant he was to the whole thing and then he gets whacked despite being nothing but a nice guy
Was he the guy who murdered a priceless sculpture or something?
>Wangler (BRICKS) beat him up and stole his shoes
>Adibisi gives him a gun (lol)
>he kills Wangler and then himself
>his crime was smashing a statue
Lynchian.
People who destroy art deserve such a miserable fate
exactly fricking over beecher constantly was one thing but the weird introduce new guy and torture him in a bizzarely unique fashion felt like fricking with the viewers
Did Robson ever kill anyone on the show? I can't recal if he did.
Idk either beside killing that one guy who was packaging stuff in prison and that other one who he killed landed him into prison in the first place
Man I need to rewatch the show, I don't remember that shit at all
Him and that other no name Aryan sliced up that Muslim.
Does anyone have a good explanation for why the storylines got ridiculous in the later seasons?
Writers being tired
long delay in sopranos production forced them to do a double season (4)
Sopranos once again stomps on OZ
>McManus could have had an actual arc if that sctress hadn't fricked off
Life is unfair
What arc would've he had
Getting married, maybe having a family, once having loved once realize that his ideas only endager people including those close to him
I liked it. Start out sane, end unhinged. They didnt want to show a real prison they wanted to show the worst one where every coin flip is tails. Highlight the problems & show a culmination of where things were headed.
Also, Nurse Serial Kill is my xoxo
I wish we had more psycho b***her.
Him being an enforcer for Ryan during the riot was fun, shame they didn't even interact after that
They interacted on a few occasions later, but yeah it was a missed opportunity
Zo would've fixed this
If only we were allowed to see it
Bearded Beecher with a metal stick was based beyond belief
Agree
def his peak, him and ryan were dope end of S1
YOU GAVE MY MAMA CANCER
>PLEASE SIR MAY I FRICK MY WIFE
I hate Vern so much
It was hot tho, you have to agree
Also, if Vern didn't do shit in the first episode and Adebisi raped b***her, would he end up better or worse than he did with Vern?
I feel like he wouldn't have rebelled against Adebisi
I feel like Adebisi wouldn't torture him like Vern did
frick him and treat him like a prag, yeah, but he wouldn't be gleeful, or mark his ass with a black fist or something
Yeah good point
>it was hot
Why you so gay?
Idk, biology?
Can't be too mad at Vern. JK Simmons is such a good fricking good actor.
Thats why I hate him, if a less actor had played the character it would just feel cartoony
Yeah, it's like with Tobin Bell as John Kramer.
Amen
For me, it's Tim Robbins in Rob Roy.
TIM ROTH
Not, Tim Robbins fricking captcha shit.
Verne was based af, I can look past his raping because that motherfricker was hilarious.
He's a closeted homosexual
Can you really become a moron if you get hit in the head? And i mean mentally, not like a cripple or braindead
I know one woman who became a bit like that, but it wasnt quite like Cyril, she didnt revert back to being childish, she just lived not understanding many things anymore. It was very tragic
>Cyril O'Reily
He only won the prison boxing tournament because Ryan kept drugging everyone. The best fighter is probably Keller.
Ryan didnt drug Khan yet Cyril killed him, he's probably number one in his moron strenght mode. That gay guy who fought Khan to a split decision and Robson should be up there too
wtf did Robson do? I just remember him willingly choosing to be someones b***h for protection
He got dental transplants and it turned out they were from a black guy so he got kicked out of the Aryans
yeah i remember that shit, he also got his dick bit off by beecher, I'm saying what did he do that would make him a high tier fighter like the post i replied too said, I think I vaguely remember him fighting like 2 dudes at once
Oh, I have no idea about that. He was kinda big I guess, but maybe Vern was just short next to him Idk
Robson was a okay-ish fighter. Clearly not as good as other characters because then he wouldn't need protection
he was a shit fighter in almost every encounter where he had not the numbers back up or was on equal terms he got smacked around/stabbed. When he lost the support of the gang he immediately was getting swarmed by the homos hunters
Main reason Skellinger kept him so close is because he came out of the gates trying to immediately stick his dick into Breecher. Even though the failed skillinger likes his attitude simply because of his intense hatred for the nerd that could fight back
Could this actually happen in real life or is this another ridiculous aging pills tier plotline
I don't know actually, I assume mouth tissue can be transplanted like any other tissue, but I have no idea how interracial stuff works in transplants
No because nobody, sane or not, would relentlessly disrespect the Indian guy about perform oral surgery on them. Let alone announce how they are a violent White Supremacist and how they don't want you do something that would jeopardize their security with their said White Supremacy prison gang.
Also, Vern how no reason to announce barring Robson from their group. He should've just silently let him go and kept it to between each other, just made it worse for everyone.
what's up with all the recent threads about Oz,
is the show getting a spin-off or something ?
anon saw the show for the first time and is now flooding the board with threads
Feels like a lot of people are rediscovering the series. No idea why. Maybe some clip went viral somewhere and it spread
youtube recommends tv show clips
Wonder if that is the cause
Adebisi lives
Amen
I wish
the episode adebesi dies is the series finale, beecher gets out of jail
Said should be up there, he defeated both Adebisi and Omar. Also Jia Kenmin.
why are there so many oz threads lately? is there a reboot or something?
I wish
turns out for a lot of anons it came out of the blue that for the game of thrones dwarf Oz was his big flythough role
>Hey Leo I know what we can do with Guerra, we just got a new inmate Warwick Davis, he got charged with conspiracy to commit murder
>Apparently he tried to kill some guy named Chan
>We can have him share a cell with Guerra that way he can get over his hatred of midgets.
>I dont know McManus sounds risky, but okay go ahead. Just know that if anything goes wrong I won't do shit.
>Just know that if anything goes wrong I won't do shit.
I kekked
Is this real? I used to watch OZ in the 90s but can't recall that scene. It looks so cheesy. Anytime the dink is getting uppity from now on, someone should send him a gif of that scene.
yea its chichos crime flashback
Made me laugh like a crazy person at 2 AM alone in my room. The way the little body tumbled like it was a tall building meanwhile it was probaly a kitchen counter height with an angled camera lmao
Said defeated Adebisi
How would you reboot it?
All new prison and all new cast
imagine Oz with zoomers, kek
Zoomer gangbangers aren't exactly like the average zoomer to be fair
>the humiliation for non gangbangers is NOT being forcefully homoed
>first episode introduces a new inmate
>older white guy with golden hair and orange face tan
>prisonger number 060121
>Tonald Drump aka king prag
>causes all of the gangs and prison staff to form a temp alliance and gang rape him
>reviews give it 20/10, rated higher then even the the last of us homosexual episode
Oh god, please no, no ne wants to think about old people sex
Wow that's amazing in literally shaking right now just thinking about how good that would be. I still don't understand a few things like what is the significance of his prison number?
>At the end of the series Tonald Drump finally realizes that his racist misogynist ways were wrong
>He admits to father Ray that he was wrong for trying to overthrow the government
>A day before he is up for parole he dies by stopping an innocent black inmate named George Freud from getting spanked
Freudian
Damn auto correct. Was suppose to say shanking. Freudian slip? Am I a gay or something? Sometimes when I'm watching OZ I get weird feelings...
Oz has a way to reach people
>Damn auto correct
Always
Rent free
How's it feel being so obsessed with a man who buck broke you?
Pretty sure that post is made to mock modern liberal media anon
>the reverse giga bait so moronic that it wraps back around to being based
Kino.
No Em City, or at least not for long
Obviously no blacks in jail except as security guards.
*prison
Just leave it alone.
Omar? What about Pancamo he should be number one. He kicked Cyril’s ass until the end of the match even while he was poisoned.
Yeah Pancamo was pretty tough
I’m just saying Pancamo and that Muslim were the only ones who went the distance against Cyril. Pancamo was probably gonna win.
Yeah definitely
Stupid Ryan ruined everything
Yeah, he always caused problems for everyone including his brother
Pretty stupid too. Things were great for the Italians when they had an ambitious cold blooded leader
Yeah it really went downhill when Chuck was the only one left to lead
The Italians still did good for themselves. Just they were mostly degated to being a background gang when pancomo was in charge most of the time and so they weren't ever on top. But I can't say Pancomo hurt the Italians like Peter did when he was in charge. So at least there's that
Fair point. I guess in a way when it comes to fiction being left storyless is worse than getting constantly fricked, from a viewers perspective.
Apparently he boxed and was a hells angel president irl lol
Yeah he sued (and settled with) the producers of Sons of Anarchy because they supposedly stole an idea he pitched about a similar MC show
Why all the shilling for this dead show lately. Is HBO (um I mean Max) planning a reboot?
Is it shilling if I spam it for free in hopes they'll reboot it?
No. Full disclosure I like the show too, just curious why it's getting discussed so much lately.
I have no clue honestly
Mostly me and some other anons. I've been starting a lot thread on this show recently for some reason beyond our world. Except this thread isn't mine
I really doubted Cyril and then those asians start their shit for whatever reason and Cyril goes ape on the one dude and then I realized why him and Ryan survived because Cyril had brawn and Ryan had brains
Fair point
>never won a fight
>somehow boss of the gang
I mean who the frick else?
The mafia has a ranking system outside. It really doesn't matter how shit you are, if you were a capo on the outside and go to prison and you're the only capo there, then you automatically get to be the guy in charge. Of course unless you get raped or something
>Of course unless you get raped or something
Getting to the ass is really the only way to bring down organised crime. We should send rapists to take out cartel capos in Mexico.
he won against JCVD. That alone is a auto promotion
Who?
What's the blue liquid supposed to mean?
Experimental aging pill maybe?
How did they manage to frick up season 6 so badly?
Pic unrelated
This actor is kino
he was great in the Watcher despite it being a shit show
Where's Dorothy and Tin man
Died before the shows timeline
AIDs ward.
Cowardly lion became a prag to the aryans
Is prison really as rapey and violent as Oz makes it out to be?
No, the show is very exagerated
And the rape that does happen is often more coercive and "you owe me this so now do this for me" and forced prostitution
What about the violence?
It does happen, but nowhere near as many murders as seen in the show
Also stupid shit like the guards doing a shakedown and finding 20 shanks like it's no big deal and then nothing happens. If you get caught with a shank in prison you get charges.
And yeah the murders. If you go to Em City it's basically a death sentence especially if this guy takes an interest in you.
Well summed up
my dad was in prison and he made it seem like the rape was exaggerated, he def wasn't a gang type either but my dad also went to prison in a white state
>Yeah son, I got raped all the time
Your source isn't reliable.
Don't frick with Querns
I wont
>Gets betrayed by his own gang
>Is forced to be a lone wolf
>Just can't stop losing
He's literally me
>smears shit all over his cell walls
>takes acid
>gets disrespected by everyone
He's literally me.
Poor Miguel
he did get a little holiday for a while just for being in the vicinity of busmalis though
idk once he got released from solitary he seemed to do fairly well
>finally reconciles with Guerra
>Guerra kills himself
>somehow gets let out of solitary after blinding a CO
>The other CO's just kinda forget and leave him be
He did ok.
I'm planning on watching this. Is the first season any good by itself?
yeah, you could consider the s1 finale an ending if you wished
Yes
test
For what?
AIDS
Here we go
I'm watching the first season right now
Wish me luck bros
GO ANON!
Based
Good luck
I just finished the first episode and it was kino. What I don't understand is why would Dino risk so much just to put someone out of their misery? Somone that they are disgusting by no less
>!He grew to have empathy for the gay dude, and he wanted to die as well!<
said converted him to islam and his first mandate was to kill gays
Because Dino was on self destruct. He secretly wanted to die for having to spend the rest of his days in prison. You begin to see that he regrets his life choice that winded him up in Oz (why he keeps walking up in suffocating bed). The dying AIDS guy telling him that Dino might of been the one to give him aids from all the heroin he used to sell, stuck his nerves and hurt him deep. Him killing dying AIDS guy is a way for him to clense his sins and the fire dropped on him was his baptism
Him killing dying AIDS guy is a way for him to clense his sins and the fire dropped on him was his baptism
Holy kino
Bamp
I enjoyed this alot more than I thought I would
Favorite character, actor, story arc, death?
NTA
>Favorite character?
Antonio Nappa
>Favorite Actor
Kirk Acevedo. He had one of the best acting scenes after he cut out the CO's eyes
>Favorite Story Arc
Not really sure. Probably all the ones from the first 2 seasons
>Favorite Death
When the aryan guys get crushed inside the underground tunnel
character?
>Antonio Nappa
Based. Nappa > Hector Salamanca
Actor
>Kirk Acevedo. He had one of the best acting scenes after he cut out the CO's eyes
Great pic
Story Arc
>Not really sure. Probably all the ones from the first 2 seasons
Based
Death
>When the aryan guys get crushed inside the underground tunnel
Based
What about you, anon? What's your favorites?
>Favorite character?
Probably Keller
>Favorite Actor
Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje, Adebisi was so fricking intimidating but funny
>Favorite Story Arc
Keller seducing Beecher and the subsequent betrayal. My first taste of tragic storytelling as a kid.
>Favorite Death
Shirley Bellinger
You watched Oz as a kid?
Yes, I was 11 when I started watching the show
Keller bros... we won
Always, even in death
Great choices. Adebisi's actor was great.
Nappa had to get fricking jabbed because he was too good of a leader, another uncelebratory demise for a character who did very little wrong
I felt bad for him and Nino
>Chris Keller
>JK Simmons
>the war between Beecher and Schillinger
>O’reilly caving Keenan’s head in with a barbell
Great picks
How can Hill didn't sue the police department for breaking his spine?? It that happened in real life he could've easily gotten at least 3 mil for that shit
not true, wouldn't be hard to make it seem like it was an accident in the process of subduing him, hes not dead after all
Wow, so police can cripple anyone for any reason. Land of the free
No, but they can lie about it like in any other country.
yeah I wasn't really discussing the morality of it whether its right or wrong simply stating the likely truth that cops can get off with excessive force, I would've let Derek Chauvin walk for sure
Depends 100% if he could find any evidence of what happened
He would've won the law suit post-travon martin, but not before.
Why did him and poet make the most goofiest of facial expressions?
Too zesty
i miss S1 blacks before they either got converted to islamd or revealed as police, the initial walk up scene to Said when they're praying was the coolest homeboy scene in the whole show probably and its in ep 1
Tobias Beecher was raped by a pack of nazis in the summer of 97'
I think he was only Vern's prag
Prags can get passed around but they still belong to their boy
Bamp
god this show was so moronic but it was comfy
It gets moronic at the end of season 4. Season 5 is entirely moronic and 6 is an abomination.