what did you guys think ?
hear a lot of people sucking this movie off..so lets do something different,
criticize the frick out of this movie...
what all do the jets do in the movie that is total bullshit ?
what parts pissed you off?
call out all the fake and gay shit in this movie
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>so lets like uh be contrarian lol
just watch it when it comes out and think for yourself
I actually liked the movie but let's not pretend it doesn't have flaws because it definitely has tons, lol.
The biggest thing to me is that if you even slightly think about it Maverick is a literal Mary Sue. There is not a single point in the movie where he's wrong or fails at something.
and thats a good thing
That’s not a Mary Sue, because the premise of the film is that Maverick is already the best or one of the best pilots in the world. That’s the opening setup. A Mary Sue is a character of humble beginnings who spontaneously solves every problem they encounter due to a complete ass pull. Even in this film Mac gets saved twice by other characters.
What's the point of Mav being saved by characters he barely knows if he's just going to get shot down two minutes later but not actually learn or develop from it?
The world TOPGUN and Pete Mitchell inhabit appears to only exist for Pete Mitchell. Goose's death, which is the primary (if not only) plot element for this sequel, subverted that and added a little bit of reality to an otherwise fantasy world. Unfortunately, nothing like that happens in this movie. You're stuck in Pete's fantasy that he never seems to lose in except when he's thinking to and about himself, which is almost always.
I mean for frick's sake, they show him during the lead in to the ending action scene having a mental breakdown fifteen seconds from their target and it does nothing. He goes straight from crying like a b***h to flying like "one of the best pilots in the world", then gets shot down and survives only to mysteriously find a nostalgiabait plane model the enemy base has for some reason.
"Maverick" might be one of if not the worst sequel in film history.
I agree with most of what you said, one note though, the F-14A is still in use by Iran (the only country using it), so it is realistic that he might find an F-14 there, which was why Iran was the target in the movie so he could plausibly find an F-14.
he's not a mary sue though. one of the main conflicts of the film is how he failed to be the father he wanted to be to rooster and how badly he damaged their relationship because of what he did. he's also insubordinate and gets chewed out by his superiors constantly for flying like a maniac. mary sue is more than just "is good at stuff". if anything you could argue that he's not a mary sue because flying jets is literally the only thing he's good at.
gooses son was really annoying, but overall a good movie
>clear at this point that it’s going to outgross whatever thor makes
>shilling against it has ramped up to 11
UH YEAH LET'S CRITICIZE YEAH WE THE CRITICIZERS
more seriously a valid criticism would be that
1) Maverick got too much shonen MC luck
2) Need more Hangman, less Rooster
3) no Phoenix sex scene
>needs more chad, less moshe
Fair.
>no Phoenix sex scene
This is monkey paw tier. They would have had her frick Rooster
Honestly, I expected more than bomb x target and fight three jets. The entire plot could have been accomplished by a predator drone. Also, hangman showing up out of no where without a scene of him telling his superiors to frick off while taking off like a true rogue is a little embarrassing. Lastly, the enemy should have counter attacked the carrier fleet, causing the reserves to take off and a final battle to ensue. This would have allowed more dogfighting in a "dogfighting" film. Allowing Maverick to stay in the F-14 while fighting a wave of enemies with all of his trainees, as a team. Nitpicking? maybe.. However, the film kind of falls apart towards the end. Still a good movie though.
It was too good for modern Hollywood. I find that unacceptable.
The movie was basically a shonen anime, it even had the beach episode.
I'm not complaining tho.
It was pretty good even though it was one of those sequels that pretty much is just the original but updated
Doing those turns in the hypersonic plane would disintegrate it instantly. It happened to the SR-71 going much slower than Mach 9. Also saying he’s the fastest man alive when the astronauts exist
Astronauts don’t go that speed. The rocket is fast but not that fast. Learn shit before posting your imaginary ideas.
That’s not even remotely true
The movie is TOO predictable. It's also way too long and gets bogged down in the "drama" with Miles Teller
>criticise the frick out of this movie
But there's nothing to criticize really. I guess the whole love interest subplot with Jennifer Connelly wasn't really needed, but I mean, shit, I don't know what else is worth being criticized
needed more jets
other than that 10/10 great movie
I didn't like the homoerotic undertones between Rooster and Hangman that ultimately lead to nothing because Tom Cruise is a closet homosexual afraid of himself.
The film's overall story made somehow less sense than its precursor it emulated almost shot-for-shot. There were no consequences or character so you just sit there watching bullshit action sequences and then have to suffer through Pete crying over the same Goddamn thing for something like fifty minutes of the overall runtime. Instead of writing an original storyline that has its own consequences, it relies on the one (1) nonsensical consequence from the original film.
It tries to create some drama between Rooster and Pete with that aforementioned consequence, but the film never leaves Maverick's fricking POV and Rooster has like two minutes of screentime and no character or development.
The ending sequence is absolutely laughable. From the actions of the TOPGUN morons to the enemy faction looking like they're from Star Wars, to Maverick and his cohorts being virtually invincible.
>tl;dr
There's no risk to anyone involved, on land or in the air, and no consequences. It's Tom giving his Magnolia performance and whacking himself off.
I did enjoy the Iceman scene
i still don't get how the frick maverick survived ejecting at mach 10.
Fun movie. Can never top the aesthetic of the original, but a great over the top action sequel.
What fricking action shill? The movie is just a build up to a bomb being dropped and a small skirmish between three planes. Zzzz
The plane sequences were amazing. How are you not in the edge of your seat watching those scenes?
Because they were boring and predictable? Nobody dies ffs there's no consequences to literally anything. It's well shot and directed, but that's all the praise it'll get from me
Hornets arent even half as sexy as Tomcats.
K-Log&Nunn>whoever did ost for new movie.
>enemy has state of the art defenses above 100ft
Why not just drive a car from the coast to the facility?
Just another predictable action movie showing off how badass Tom Cruise is. Yawn
It became comedic after rooster saved maverick, didn't like it
My main criticism is that it didn't dab on trannies
Other than that it was 10/10
Might see it again tonight
Made me give money to Hollywood by being so kino. Something I planned on not doing ever again
They should've had a Dark Star V2 in the final mission
It would have made more sense to use... TOMahawk CRUISE Missiles. :DDD
The entire movie is almost a beat for beat remake of the original. As a fanboy of the original and a pilot, I was left wanting for something more original. I expected references and homage to the original, but not straight up just recreating the scenes with a modern IMAX camera.
Most everything in the aircraft was bullshit, but that's typical of Hollywood and the original film. The aircraft scenes are meant to be fun for an ignorant audience with no understanding of even rudimentary aviation, let alone military aviation or naval aviation. However, there are about 20 things they could've changed to be more accurate that would've had no impact on plot, pacing, dialogue, etc. and they just didn't, so that's annoying to me.
Overall, I liked the movie for avoiding 95% of the Hollywood bullshit. The scenes that didn't involve any CGI were all good and the plot was mostly fun except the last 15 minutes which was predictable and physics-defying to the point of breaking suspension of disbelief.
Could've been an easy GOAT aviation film if they changed a handful of things that would've saved them money. I don't think it will be a movie that stands the test of time.
tom cruise plays the biggest mary sue in film history and nobody seems to care
>no maverick, you can’t do that!
>maverick does the thing
>wow maverick, you’re so amazing and brave
it was a marvel movie without the capes
Cliche story and one dimensional characters
Aerial footage looked like a video game. I had to remind myself it was filmed practically in order to appreciate it.
Boomers are easily amused
I thought it was bullshit how Maverick survived after being shot down, also the F-14 somehow surviving after receving multiple shots while the 5th gen jets exploded immediately.