Is there a reason they've never put out every single Looney Tune cartoon in chronological order? I know the early stuff isn't as great as the stuff everyone remembers and they don't want those specific 12 cartoons to ever see the light of day again, but every single home video release is an out of order grab bag and it tickles my autism something fierce. Just sell them all to me in order. It's not hard.
>Is there a reason they've never put out every single Looney Tune cartoon in chronological order?
Yeah. The pre-Tex Avery Buddy and Beans era is awful. The most popular and thus profitable cartoons are from the 50s.
There's like 1050 shorts made from the 30s to the 60s, even at like 20 shorts a volume like the Golden Collection sets that's a shitload of releases, most of which wouldn't be profitable. If you released the unpopular shit as SD on HD you could probably fit 200 shorts on a single disc, save the actual HD quality releases for the good shit most people would pay for outside of archivists or historians.
They all needed to be restored before being released, a lot still do, and home video releases of classic shorts is a pretty niche market so they're not exactly big sellers. Warner Home Video for the longest time also had a stranglehold on what could be released so other WB departments like the Warner Archive couldn't do Looney Tunes releases. Thankfully with the collectors editions it seems they now can but they're prioritizing shorts that have never had a home video release before.
The mainline collections were always trying to balance the demands of families and collectors. It's why the Golden Collection was accompanied by those Spotlight Collections that were just abridged selections of the Golden series or why the Platinum series came out of the gate with "This set has the complete shorts filmographies of Taz, Marvin and the Witch".
They could easily do it, if they wanted to, the way Marvel puts out its "Epic Collections," where instead of starting from the beginning you release individual years/eras in non-chronological order.
So if you put out, say, all the Warner Bros. cartoons for some of the best years (1946 being probably the best because every major director is represented) you wouldn't have to worry about the crappy early years until much later.
They won't do it for reasons others have mentioned: restoration costs, self-censorship, tug of war about how they should be presented. (Plus another one: a lot of the songs Carl Stalling quoted are still in copyright and Warner Bros. has to pay royalties on them.) But they could do it if they wanted.
That's how Fatagraphics did the Carl Barks Duck comics, they started right off with Bear Mountain and after a decade or so they're finally getting to the early stuff. Makes sense from an archival point of view, you begin with what people will buy and you can afford to take the losses on later releases when collectors will go all in on buying everything. And if you don't get that far, at least the stuff you released is in order.
For LT grouping it by years would probably make the most sense, individual volumes per year means you'd need 40 gaps of shelf space and some years wouldn't sell at all, four years per volume for ten volumes from 1929-1969 would be ideal.
>physical media victory
They're taking physical media out of stores and taking disc drives out of consoles, they're gonna do everything they can to stop you from watching uncensored content.
Warner Bros would have bankrupted without that shit and been sold for parts. They were drowning in debt and only Discovery was dumb enough to scoop them up.
>Looney Tunes Golden Collection Vol 1-6 (DVD) >Bugs Bunny, daffy Duck, Foghorn Leghorn, Pepe Le Pew, Porky Pig, Roadrunner and Coyote, Sylvester and Hippety Hopper Super star (DVDs) >Looney Tunes Platinum Collection Vol 1-3 (Bluray) >Looney Tunes Mouse Chronicles (BluRay) >Porky Pig 101 (DVD) >Bugs Bunny 80th Anniversary (BluRay) >Looney Tunes Collectors Choice vol 1 (volumes 2 and 3 coming soon) (BluRay)
just buy all of that, and you'll have a little more than HALF of all 1000 looney tunes
They did an absolutely horrible job at managing it too >They never added any new LT shorts from the original batch that were there in 2019 >They took LT shorts down >It's fricking completely out of order, for example, 1965's Corn of the Cob is listed as "season 1" >The concept of Seasons for LTs is wrong, it's just the year of the short's released >They mashed together Merry Melodies and Looney Tunes, which is important because they were very different things for the first like 7 years of WB cartoons >There are zero Bosko cartoons, literally the first LT star >There is just 1 Foxy cartoon out of the 3 >Many Porky shorts are missing >9 of the 15 Two-Strip Technicolor Shorts are missing, including Honeymoon Hotel, literally the first Looney Tunes short to be in color. >I Wish I Had Wings is mostly missing an audio track, which had the titular song, so the short makes no sense for like the first half.
And so much more.
Just a fricking horrible job they did with this, which is shocking because the physical LT DVDs are so perfectly categorized.
>>They mashed together Merry Melodies and Looney Tunes, which is important because they were very different things for the first like 7 years of WB cartoons
You're right about the other stuff but c'mon this is such a non-issue
>the physical LT DVDs are so perfectly categorized.
Is this a joke? The only perfectly categorized set is Porky Pig 101. All the other DVDs and Blurays jump around all over the place
is this what we get for being extremely vocal about wanting that Looney Tunes Movie? (Coyote vs. Acme) Who the frick is the one taking these decisions?
how over is it?
It's been over since they made the nuclear bombs, now we live in purgatory and wait until they decide we should stop suffering
The only way for things to get better is when humanity restarts all the way back to zero.
Can’t you just watch them all on Archive dot org though?
probably yeah. Most of them are unrestored and won't look as good as the DVD/Blu ray tho
No, of course not you moron, that's illegal
Everything should be allowed on Archive if the companies don't want it.
That's All Folks!
Is there a reason they've never put out every single Looney Tune cartoon in chronological order? I know the early stuff isn't as great as the stuff everyone remembers and they don't want those specific 12 cartoons to ever see the light of day again, but every single home video release is an out of order grab bag and it tickles my autism something fierce. Just sell them all to me in order. It's not hard.
>Is there a reason they've never put out every single Looney Tune cartoon in chronological order?
Yeah. The pre-Tex Avery Buddy and Beans era is awful. The most popular and thus profitable cartoons are from the 50s.
(HBO) Max is the most meme streaming service ever.
What makes you think they'll ever release all of the shorts in order?
I think the 256 shorts they removed are still on Amazon Prime Video and Apple TV+.
How much would a Complete Collection even cost?
Well, the Platinum collections were $30 for 50 HD shorts. There are 1000 Looney Tunes. 1000 divided by 50 is 20. 20 x 30 would make it $600 (plus tax)
There's like 1050 shorts made from the 30s to the 60s, even at like 20 shorts a volume like the Golden Collection sets that's a shitload of releases, most of which wouldn't be profitable. If you released the unpopular shit as SD on HD you could probably fit 200 shorts on a single disc, save the actual HD quality releases for the good shit most people would pay for outside of archivists or historians.
i'll give them 20 bucks and that's it
They all needed to be restored before being released, a lot still do, and home video releases of classic shorts is a pretty niche market so they're not exactly big sellers. Warner Home Video for the longest time also had a stranglehold on what could be released so other WB departments like the Warner Archive couldn't do Looney Tunes releases. Thankfully with the collectors editions it seems they now can but they're prioritizing shorts that have never had a home video release before.
The mainline collections were always trying to balance the demands of families and collectors. It's why the Golden Collection was accompanied by those Spotlight Collections that were just abridged selections of the Golden series or why the Platinum series came out of the gate with "This set has the complete shorts filmographies of Taz, Marvin and the Witch".
They could easily do it, if they wanted to, the way Marvel puts out its "Epic Collections," where instead of starting from the beginning you release individual years/eras in non-chronological order.
So if you put out, say, all the Warner Bros. cartoons for some of the best years (1946 being probably the best because every major director is represented) you wouldn't have to worry about the crappy early years until much later.
They won't do it for reasons others have mentioned: restoration costs, self-censorship, tug of war about how they should be presented. (Plus another one: a lot of the songs Carl Stalling quoted are still in copyright and Warner Bros. has to pay royalties on them.) But they could do it if they wanted.
That's how Fatagraphics did the Carl Barks Duck comics, they started right off with Bear Mountain and after a decade or so they're finally getting to the early stuff. Makes sense from an archival point of view, you begin with what people will buy and you can afford to take the losses on later releases when collectors will go all in on buying everything. And if you don't get that far, at least the stuff you released is in order.
For LT grouping it by years would probably make the most sense, individual volumes per year means you'd need 40 gaps of shelf space and some years wouldn't sell at all, four years per volume for ten volumes from 1929-1969 would be ideal.
So like Doctor Who: The Collection.
>physical media victory
They're taking physical media out of stores and taking disc drives out of consoles, they're gonna do everything they can to stop you from watching uncensored content.
They're doing this to increase their profit margins. Companies don't need to share a cut if you buy straight from them without any middle man.
*total torrent supremacy
There, fixed OP's mistake
Oh boy I can't wait for Clownfishtv to cover this.
>a youtuber who covers media news is going to talk about something newsworthy in media
... okay?
And they’ll still put a shocked Mickey Mouse in the thumbnail.
cope
That Warner Discovery buyout was a mistake.
Warner Bros would have bankrupted without that shit and been sold for parts. They were drowning in debt and only Discovery was dumb enough to scoop them up.
Does it matter at this point? They are still drowning and they are still going to be scrapped for parts.
So are they trying to move the shorts somewhere else or what?
>Looney Tunes Golden Collection Vol 1-6 (DVD)
>Bugs Bunny, daffy Duck, Foghorn Leghorn, Pepe Le Pew, Porky Pig, Roadrunner and Coyote, Sylvester and Hippety Hopper Super star (DVDs)
>Looney Tunes Platinum Collection Vol 1-3 (Bluray)
>Looney Tunes Mouse Chronicles (BluRay)
>Porky Pig 101 (DVD)
>Bugs Bunny 80th Anniversary (BluRay)
>Looney Tunes Collectors Choice vol 1 (volumes 2 and 3 coming soon) (BluRay)
just buy all of that, and you'll have a little more than HALF of all 1000 looney tunes
Couple bucks says they end up on tubi.
All the Tom and Jerry shorts are there now, along with most Tex Avery MGM shorts.
They did an absolutely horrible job at managing it too
>They never added any new LT shorts from the original batch that were there in 2019
>They took LT shorts down
>It's fricking completely out of order, for example, 1965's Corn of the Cob is listed as "season 1"
>The concept of Seasons for LTs is wrong, it's just the year of the short's released
>They mashed together Merry Melodies and Looney Tunes, which is important because they were very different things for the first like 7 years of WB cartoons
>There are zero Bosko cartoons, literally the first LT star
>There is just 1 Foxy cartoon out of the 3
>Many Porky shorts are missing
>9 of the 15 Two-Strip Technicolor Shorts are missing, including Honeymoon Hotel, literally the first Looney Tunes short to be in color.
>I Wish I Had Wings is mostly missing an audio track, which had the titular song, so the short makes no sense for like the first half.
And so much more.
Just a fricking horrible job they did with this, which is shocking because the physical LT DVDs are so perfectly categorized.
Before and after Zaslav's regime. This isn't shocking at all.
No, these problems with LT on HBO Max were bad before Zaslav got there
All of these issues are issues that have been around for 4 years, they never bothered to fix it.
>>They mashed together Merry Melodies and Looney Tunes, which is important because they were very different things for the first like 7 years of WB cartoons
You're right about the other stuff but c'mon this is such a non-issue
>the physical LT DVDs are so perfectly categorized.
Is this a joke? The only perfectly categorized set is Porky Pig 101. All the other DVDs and Blurays jump around all over the place
I was wrong when I said that, I could have sworn they were, but when I went and checked, it was completely random
There's also that Sniffles/Hubie and Bertie set and Super Stars's Pepe Le Pew disc is the complete filmography.
yes and the Sylvester and Hippety Hopper Super Stars disc
is this what we get for being extremely vocal about wanting that Looney Tunes Movie? (Coyote vs. Acme) Who the frick is the one taking these decisions?
Discovery.
they still air on metv
release Taz-Mania on bluray, cowards
It was mastered on tape so it'd be too expensive to remaster, you'd get sd-on-blu-ray at best.
as long as they de-interlace it and throw in a bunch of behind the scenes special features id settle for that
I'm surprised we got a complete Duck Dodgers blu ray release this year. I bought that up the second I saw it.
What's Max?
HBO Max with shortened name.
Is that like HBO Go?
It's honestly a great idea. Destroying old art to make room for new stuff is fantastic. This means more server space for new upcoming products
Physical media deteriorates over time, make sure you create digital backups so you won't lose them forever.
Update: that was an error
https://press.wbd.com/us/media-release/whats-new-max-december
jumpscare
Looney Tunes Back in Action and The Lego Movie are leaving Max on New Years Eve
and you chuds tried to tell me my boomerang subscription wasnt worth it