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I have to say, I like the dedication
Movie that looks akin to the opening scene of Bumblebee, but the whole duration. That's it. Also don't be shit.
i am very sorry to be the bearer of bad news
You're still getting Transformers battles as shown in the end of the trailer.
Bumblebee and its consequences for the fandom have been a disaster.
>it’s a Reddit comedy
who do i blame for this kind of humor being present in every fricking movie nowadays
randy pitchford, probably
joss wedon
NTA, but seriously how do you call this type of humor? It's always an instant "no" for me. Every damn cartoon that isn't outright marked as "mature" thanks to gore and sex jokes has this fricking type of comedy. Is it even popular? WHY is everything for "kids" for clinical hyperactive morons now? The TF movie from the 80s was for kids too. Why was THAT allowed to be not moronic as shit?
Fricking Heidi and He-Man are mature compared to crap like this.
>Why was THAT allowed to be not moronic as shit?
86 is moronic as shit
>everything I don't like is Reddit
Correct
In Void Rivals for those curious. Quintessons probably won't show up in Transformers for a long time
people already hate it
Nobody cares about your shitty little screenshots phoneposter.
Terrible overlay by the way, why the frick are you hearing a song in the middle of the damn trailer.
i paused it. i had it playing during the countdown.
Spider-Verse and it's consequences have been a disaster for the normie race
I don't even hate spiderverse visual style but why normies believe it should be applied to everything
>but why normies believe it should be applied to everything
I think because people are tired of the smoothness of CGI, and more adults who watch animation are watching anime. So they like the idea of mock-2D feeling in CGI
Spider Verse's animation "style" is fricking terrible
the space israelites escaped cameo hell
welcome back
They're in the Skybound comics too
Quintessonchads eating well
>got a toy in WfC (the toyline)
>also showed up in Cyberverse
>showed up early in the Energon Universe
Feels like they're making a comeback.
They were in the WfC cartoon too. Well, one of them.
As expected, they market the comedy of the movie (like almost every other damn animated movie ever) but you can clearly see there's more than just that going on. Lots of cool action and world exploration.
That said I can concede that Bumblebee will be the butt of the comedy, can't expect much out of Keegan-Michael Key
>but you can clearly see there's more than just that going
Can you say that, the movie, is more than meets the eye?
Nice
Looks absolutely terrible and I'm sure
are just bait from the last few minutes of the movie.
>can't expect much out of Keegan-Michael Key
I liked him as toad in the Mario movie.
Every "serious" scene like the one you posted will end with a dumb meme line, a following music stop and an over-reaction to "subvert" your expectations and make it funny.
Yeah, because you totally saw the movie already
>Comedic tone
>Lots of quips
>Lots of big name celebrities instead of veteran voice actors.
Does this just feel kinda dated to anybody else? I don't even necessarily think it'll be bad, the visuals look really good and I'm down for some Cybertron lore, but the way they've chosen to put this movie together feels like something that everybody got tired of 10 years ago.
Anon you just described almost every animated US movie release of the past 10 years, including the "good" ones that made a lot of money. Puss in Boots The Last Wish, the film everyone sucked off for an entire year, has all of what you just said.
Definitely would be nice to live in a world where serious dramatic animated movies are released constantly, but we don't live in that world, we live in one where animation is labeled as "kid stuff", so even if you have a cool story you have to market yourself as a comedy for the kiddies to make any money.
It would be fine if the "comedy" wasnt cancerous Wheadonistic trite, old animated disney and vluth stuff had comedy but sparse around the movie and knew when thetr were stakes and when to shut up and let things breath
>old animated disney and vluth stuff had comedy but sparse around the movie and knew when thetr were stakes and when to shut up and let things breath
70% of Snow White are gags with the seven dwarfs. Same with Cinderella with all those mice, tons of classic disney movies just stopped to have characters act silly and goofy. I'm sure your ancestors complained about that back then too.
>Strawman Strawman CongAA
Anon transformers ARE for kiddies
Yeah, yeah, we get it Mr. Marketer. Transformers is le shit except for One, which I should pay full price for. God bless Lorenzo Di Bonaventura.
Transformers is shit including One. You just brainwashed yourself into thinking it's not shit and are sperging because the new thing doesn't match the imaginary version of the franchise in your mind that has never existed.
>No, i totally hate the entire franchise!
b***h ass, I know
is you. Yeah, the whole franchise is shit but this film is le wacky and fun.
I don't hate the franchise, I'm just not mindbroken into thinking that it's high art.
Beast Wars had an entire 20 minute episode about Rhinox farting.
And I bet when that episode aired people acted exactly like anons did right now.
BW had tons of comedic moments, it was part of the DNA of the show as much as the action and tragic deaths.
But it's okay when it's the stuff anons grew up with, when it's new then it sucks.
But that comedy in BW was legit funny because it was made before the creep of Joss Wheadon
>cant tell the difference between actual jokes and wheadon-quips
do shills really?
>Transformers has comedy in it sometimes, so that means you expect it to be a comedy
Actual shill logic right here.
No moron, it means that just because a Transfomers series or movie has comedic moments, it doesn't mean it's just gonna be that all the way through. Especially when the trailer already shows serious moments throughout it.
Just because Transformers HAS comedic moments in it, doesn't mean they ever sold themselves on such, that doesn't mean the stories themselves were supposed to be jokes either, you dense moron
The fricking Bay movies knew this much, literally compare every trailer they had and how much they don't show any of the jokes those movies had.
>Just because Transformers HAS comedic moments in it, doesn't mean they ever sold themselves on such
And this trailer doesn't either, showing multiple action and adventurous sequences alongside the comedy. So it seems it's doing fine.
Ah yes, the generic "chosen bunch of losers" plot al la Power Rangers, showing how Transforming, the thing their entire goddamn race is named after, is special. Yeah, it looks fricking great.
So you moved the goalpost from
>they're only showing comedy!
to
>my bias makes me hate this kind of plot so I will dismiss it entirely!
I accept your concession
I never said it was only comedy. But the comedy is present in 90% of the trailer, and everything else isn't special or notable.
But sure, I'm the one moving the goalpost
>I don't hate the franchise, I'm just not mindbroken into thinking that it's high art.
>Beast Wars had an entire 20 minute episode about Rhinox farting.
No one is claiming it's high art you inbred oxygen thief subhuman mongrel. It's the tone that's the issue but you're trying to do mental gymnastics to justify supporting this fricking clownshow!!!FACT!!!
>being this mindbroken over a toy robot movie
this mindbroken over a toy robot movie
Says the brainwashed c**t who refuses to acknowledge the differences between one thing and another, like women and trannies!!!FACT!!!
Not to mention it’s time to grow up
>Transformers is shit including One. You just brainwashed yourself into thinking it's not shit and are sperging because the new thing doesn't match the imaginary version of the franchise in your mind that has never existed.
It did exist and is called Transformers The Movie that this fricking trash will never surpass in popularity, now frick yourself with a rusty chainsaw you fricking mongrel!!!FACT!!!
Well then watch that one. As underwritten as it is, and leave the new generation their own underwritten film
Weird when it was Walt's mission from the very start with Snow White to make an animated film that was not a goofy comedy. Before that animation was considered to only ever be an 8 minute comedy and nothing else. Snow White was what convinced critics, studios, and audiences that you can actually make a cartoon movie and have it be an actual film, not toons whacking each other on the head with hammers and anvils.
And now post Shrek, Dreamworks convinced all audiences that animated movies need to be wall to wall comedies with classic dad rock soundtracks.
It feels like a parody. Not a parody of Transformers, but a parody of peoples' low expectations. The casting and dialogue are beyond awful.
You just spout whatever nonsense comes to your head huh
Did you watch the trailer? It's a bundle of almost every unwanted cliche. "Start Me Up" sealed the deal. I'm sure the movie will be better than the trailer is making it out to be, but nothing about the movie looks impressive and the dialogue and casting are clearly awful.
>"Start Me Up" sealed the deal.
It's a trailer, every big movie trailer has a licensed song in it. Pretty sure all past Transformer movies had this as well.
>I'm sure the movie will be better than the trailer is making it out to be
Okay then why do you say it's almost every unwanted cliche if you're willing to accept the final movie could be better?
>Okay then why do you say it's almost every unwanted cliche if you're willing to accept the final movie could be better?
Because it still isn't going to be good. It's not like the trailer is unrelated footage.
This
He's not wrong this is just a Machinima work with a bigger budget
>Machinima work
Wasn't the Machinima show so serious that people actually got sick of it? How is this the same if its so comedic to you?
People got sick of the Machinima stuff because it was boring and poorly written and acted.
No it just sucked and was amateur made
>feels like something that everybody got tired of 10 years ago
Well, it is a Paramount Transformers movie. That said, I’ve got more faith in this being successful than the TFxGI Joe crossover. Just this little marketing stunt alone to advertise the first trailer took more effort than what the first ROTB trailer got.
I can't say I'm excited about the GI Joe crossover stuff but I honestly am looking forward to a sequel to Rise of the Beasts. I liked a lot of the characters in that movie.
For once transformers animation that fully takes place on cybertron and isn’t all dark and gritty
Seethe
what's the real difference between celebrity voice actors and veteran voice actors?
they're both just expensive voice actors meant to appeal to mass consumers.
Veterans put more effort into it. Some celebrities just half-ass it.
Seth Rogen...
Veterans are from my childhood and will forever be amazing and deserving of worship.
Celebrities are homosexual troony liberal asiatic israelite pedo filth and deserve to die.
The actual dichotomy is acting vs. voice acting. They're two very different things. Being a good screen actor doesn't automatically make you a good voice actor, and more often than not they actually suck.
If that doesn't then the 1960s era soundtrack definitely will make it dated.
Why doesn't any new movie get a new soundtrack with it any longer? It's all 60s-80s era shit now in everything.
is is really that fricking hard to just make a film adaptation of war for cybertron/fall of cybertron?
it it really so impossible?
the opening scenes of bumblebee managed that perfectly.
god, i'm so tired.
Optimus Prime and Megatrons voice actors are miscast, I hoped it would've been 2D
To Whomever keeps using the monkey's paw.
FRICKING STOP
Everyone's here
oh no it's Crazy b***h.
God I want her to step on me
Who?
God i hope she bites Alita-1, and turns her into Blackarachnia.
Chris Hemsworth actually has a pretty good "hero" voice, which is the angle they've taken for Optimus in recent shows like Earthspark. Didn't dawn on me until now that it can work like that.
to sell toys huh
So is this another reboot or a prequel to the last 2 Bee films?
Because to me it looks like a spin off film of Earthrise that you'd see on cable than something aimed at cinemas.
>says he worked with Peter Cullen to get his voice as close to Peter’s
>just sounds like himself
I am a bit cautious because the trailer looks… meh, but I’m hoping it’s good
>>says he worked with Peter Cullen to get his voice as close to Peter’s
>>just sounds like himself
Best case scenario is that once Hemsworth means he's using his regular voice for Orion Pax and he'll slowly develope the Peter Cullen voice throughout the movie
That was rough
>people unironically expected "All Quiet on the Western Front" but with Transformers
This moronic fanbase never stops surprising me. It's literally a franchise about rainbow coloured magical space robots that turn into trucks, it's always going to be kiddy shit. Trailer looks fine. Fun even.
>Don't like thing? I'll drag down the entire thing to mud level then, that'll show you for having expectations!
Loser's mindset.
No. I didn't even expect a tone on par with the High Moon games or the 1986 movie. I was just hoping for less obnoxious characterization and dialogue. It doesn't look very good.
The comics and that Bumblebee scene have mindfrick these people
Cuckass, the story is literally based on the mid-70's oil crisis, cold war epochs, and the Russian Revolution. And now you have homosexuals trying to justify adapting that into a FAMILY MOVIE. Are you out of your fragging mind?
Wasn't there a family movie based on the Russian Revolution already? And lots of family movies had Russian spies as the bad guys.
Disingenuous. Turning a serious and genuine heartfelt story about a war that consumed an entire planet that invokes many classical Sci-Fi concepts into a kiddieshit theme park ride no different to Shrek is heresy.
Besides, family and children's movies related to war have been done better before. This is just Marvel-tier filler.
Not that that what we're all arguing here, but has Cinemaphile strayed so far as to say Shrek isn't good?
Shrek itself was good, but a lot of imitators that only copied the jokes and pop music soundtrack without understanding how it works made Shrek seem poor. A lot of Dreamworks' films even fell into that trap.
A giant manbaby in denial claims he's not a manbaby, news at 11.
have a nice day, what are you, a BuzzFeed "Journalist"? You shills are so predictable.
???
It really feels like a prequel to earhtsparks that was relabelled at the last minute.
If it is effectively a live-movie prequel, it will be interesting to see Megatron's character change from being this no-nonsense cybertonian to an absolute monster who want total control and destruction.
Earthspark acts like G1's continuity happened pretty much the same except Megatron decided to quit before episode 1 ended. This is completely different
>it will be interesting to see Megatron's character change from being this no-nonsense cybertonian to an absolute monster who want total control and destruction.
And that's what the movie promises so I'm looking forward to it.
>Earthspark acts like G1's continuity happened pretty much the same except Megatron decided to quit before episode 1 ended. This is completely different
And how would that trailer not fit as a prequel to that plot?
I'm excited to see Optimus and Megatron's relationship, knowing what happens.
I'll consider this movie a success if it can sell the tragic brothers in arms plot
Brawn, Jazz, Sideswipe, Hound and Wheeljack
It begins
The coming through every frame to find every cameo and reference so we can justify that this isn't a movie for babies but instead caters to the lifelong adult fan
Transformers for babies huh
Teenage Transformers One: Mutant Mayhem
My only complain is the fact this look like way too much of your tipical movie for kids.
Like i can see them playing dumb pop song musics every scene
You're angry a Transformers movie looks like it's made for its target audience?
Disingenuous.
I guess it's just the tonal shift after being fed nothing but war crimes and realistic violence for 17 years.
Maybe it's just the trailer and it's over usage of quips but even the 80s g1 film felt more serious than this.
>but even the 80s g1 film felt more serious than this.
Do you mean the one where Grimlock gets kissed at a dance party while a Weird Al Yankovic song plays in the background?
You mean the part after when Optimus is fricking shot through the chest, and Unicron eats a planet smelting the inhabits inside them as they scream in agony?
Yes, the same movie had all those things, just like how many animated movies can have comedy and dark moments. Glad we agree.
this is the part where you show me the dark moments in this film
Yes anon let me totally leak the whole movie, I have it on my hard drive.
Or do you have it? I'm sure you do since you're so certain it's a kiddy flick with nothing serious about it, you must have seen it in full already
>Yes anon let me totally leak the whole movie, I have it on my hard drive.
>Or do you have it? I'm sure you do since you're so certain it's a kiddy flick with nothing serious about it, you must have seen it in full already
The entire tone of the trailer says everything we need to know about this shit while the 86 animated movie trailer is the complete opposite you fricking scumbag...
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!!!FACT!!!
I mean we got the corpse on Onyx Prime, and heavy implications of slavery already so I’m okay with it
I don't see the resemblance
Gold and blue, and wings, plus it’s where Trion is so it’d make sense if there’s more than 1 prime in the tomb
They can do both theoretically. We know from cinemacon that Prime and Megs are trying to find Sentinel because they found the Matrix which at the very least hints about the false prime stuff from the comics. Depending on if they adapt Quintus or not they could also use him to explain the quintessons.
Plus the 2025 toyline centres around the 13 Primes so I doubt they’d scrap it here
Evan Dorkin was right after reading this entire thread
Contrarianism is literally a brainrot.
Will they give solus the musclefu treatment;
Which are the contrarians?
If you want to play on words just say wheyfu
God I fricking hope not, musclehomosexualry is gayer than futa.
Nah that's a stretch, nothing is gayer than the actual fricking troony fetish
What the frick is your point here exactly?
That EVERY animated movie until the end of time needs comedy in it regardless of the subject matter?
The point is that a movie can have comedy and dark moments, and it doesn't mean it's just one of those things. This applies to any Transformers movie and it also applies here.
The only other animated theatrical Transformers movie is Beast Wars II: LIO Convoy's Close Call!! which was mostly humor. It's normal for an animated Transformers movie to be funny.
Yes, a movie can have comedic and dark moments.
But that's not the lynchpin of this convo at all. You or the other frickwit started rewriting the entire franchise as some kind of Scary Movie tier parody, cherrypicking episodes, and now trying to hold superiority by saying everyone is dumb except you.
Too bad, we don't have the IP Counter anymore.
>You or the other frickwit started rewriting the entire franchise as some kind of Scary Movie tier parody, cherrypicking episodes, and now trying to hold superiority by saying everyone is dumb except you.
None of us did, that's your assumption. We never said it was Scary Movie tier, just that the franchise has comedy in it, and getting upset this movie also has it is stupid. Dismissing the entire film as a brainless comedy just because Bumblebee is making quips is silly when you can do the same for multiple characters of each Transformers movie or show.
>oh no, none of us (me) did!
You can't rewrite posts here, silly.
>Yes, the same movie had all those things, just like how many animated movies can have comedy and dark moments. Glad we agree.
You're a disingenuous piece of shit.
I hope they're paying you enough to shill this you bootlicking wienersucker!!!FACT!!!
yeah the same one where 90% of the old cast is killed on screen in brutal fashion, including Optimus
the same one where Megatron and his goons are left for dead in space until they're found by space satan who forced them into a soul selling contract
the same one where an entire civilization is destroyed on screen in gory detail in the first 5 minutes
Yes. That was serious business.
>Wacky light-hearted tone
>Optimus and Megatron are the same relative age as Bumblebee
>Transforming aka the fricking thing that's just part of Cybertronian physiology, is treated like a superpower
>quips
It's really fricking hard for them to just adapt War for Cybertron huh? My fault for having expectations for this, I should've known better
This predates the war for cybertron bozo.
I wasn't talking about the show or games you insufferable tool
moron, they never said they were adapting the war for cybertron, they said they were doing Orion and Megatron's origins. Lo and behold, it's exactly what they said it was! It IS your fault for having expectations that were anything besides what they said it would be.
Double moron.
Orion and Megatron led to the War for Cybertron, it was their union that eventually led to betrayal and how deep it goes depends on the source you're adapting.
The tone of the trailer is wrong. No matter how you slice half the dialogue shouldn't be quips, Bumblebee shouldn't even know Optimus exists yet, if he himself is even born, and it deffinetnly shouldn't have had "Start Me Up" as its song.
Yeah, I shouldn't have had expectations, expectations that Paramount knew what the frick they were doing or had any kind of respect for the material.
Bumblebee was a fluke, and frick off for trying to play defense for this
moronic Black person.
concession accepted
>Bumblebee shouldn't even know Optimus exists yet, if he himself is even born
That's not exactly a real complain. It's just a different origin story for both characters.
By that logic Megatron shouldn't have been kept frozen in ice by the pentagon for 200 years because that's not part of his true origin story.
A numbers of problems with your post
For starters, Bumblebee is supposed to be the "hothead new kid" kind of character, even the fricking Bay movies knew to keep that, especially in comparison to Optimus, who is supposed to be the wise father figure/leader of the group. That dynamic is lost when they're the same age relatively
Also, no, Megatron shouldn't be frozen or on earth you dipshit, that was AFTER the war, because Transformers live a really fricking long time, as in millions of years, or do you think Megatron was just just born forzen on Earth in the Bay movies?
>For starters, Bumblebee is supposed to be the "hothead new kid" kind of character, even the fricking Bay movies knew to keep that, especially in comparison to Optimus, who is supposed to be the wise father figure/leader of the group.
see
Bumblebee being already there isn't a contradiction of that.
That shouldn't make any fricking sense, because also what a person who they are their expirences. Are we to expect Optimus grew intho this wise and nobel leader while Bumblebee stayed the same? For MILLIONS of years?
And that's really more of an issue with BW
Which don't get me wrong, I love BW with all my heart, but the protoform shit was always kinda dumb. Not the kind of dumb that ever ruined the show, but still.
>Are we to expect Optimus grew intho this wise and nobel leader while Bumblebee stayed the same?
That's how it has often been in Transformers.
No it hasn't. Most versions of Bee didn't meet Optimus until WAY fricking later, often during the goddamn war.
didn't cyberverse stop that trend?
>Implying anyone watched Cyberverse
Yes. Granted its usually vague when certain characters meet and where, but the implications are there.
>Granted its usually vague when certain characters meet and where
It's not just vague, it's simply not specified at all, most of the time.
>Most versions of Bee didn't meet Optimus until WAY fricking later
Not really.
That's actually incorrect. Only 1 version of Bee is stated to explicitly having met Optimus way later on.
>G1
Nothing said on the matter.
>Movies
In The Last Knight Bumblebee states that he is Optimus' oldest friend. The Bumblebee movie shows Bee fighting alongside the other autobots during the war, no indication of when they met.
>Animated
Bumblebee met Optimus long after the war. (Granted Optimus didn't fight in the war either).
>"Aligned"
In War For Cybertron, Bumblebee meets Optimus during the Fall of Iacon towards the end of the War.
>Cyberverse
Bumblebee knew Optimus before the war.
>Earthspark
Not enough has been shown to comment either way on when Bumblebee and Optimus' friendship.
>Implying anyone watched Cyberverse
Hey anon. Frick you, cyberverse was great.
>Are we to expect Optimus grew into this wise and nobel leader while Megatron stayed the same power hungry gladiator?
>Beging angry that the goverment that forced you into a bloodsport and had half of the population subjugated doesn't just go away
Whoa
they forced him into mining labor
he chose to become a gladiator
It was one or the other, he chose the one that had him do some killing and get some back at them.
Either way, doesn't change the point.
>And that's really more of an issue with BW
No it happens in G1 and any series where bots are built spontaneously, too
>Wheelie, Bumblebee, and Hot Rod are "kids"
>Stunticons, Aerialbots, Computron all built presumably after and have the personality of adults(toon dinobots I'll grant you are primitive)
>Animated has allspark shard born TFs all be fully formed, hell the constructicons are middle aged.
>Prime has fully adult cloned Preds
Funny enough the only universe where it's somewhat consistent is the movies, where all the new TFs born from the Allspark or protoforms are violent, primitive babies.
>Optimus and Megatron are the same relative age as Bumblebee
To be fair that's been a thing for like a decade now. Heck in Cyberverse Bumblebee was around when Megatron was a gladiator and before the Decepticon faction was founded.
>Transforming aka the fricking thing that's just part of Cybertronian physiology, is treated like a superpower
It depends on what kind of continuity it's going for. It seems like it's inspired by the original G1 origin story that Cybertronians were servants to Quintessons so them not being able to transform probably stems from that.
Also some continuities have kicked around the idea that being able to "transform" was not something Cybertronians had the ability to do since their inception. In Prime for example Shockwave commented that there was no historical evidence that Predacons achieved the ability to Transform before they went extinct.
Which was really fricking weird considering he canonically had already cloned them at that point and it caused things to go so badly to shit the war had to be put on hold until Megatron and Optimus could unfrick the situation. He already knew they could Transform by then.
and Megatron are the same relative age as Bumblebee
Age has always been bullshit in Transformers.
Silverbolt, Airazor and Tigatron are all younger than Cheetor and yet Cheetor is still supposed to be the immature one.
Age =/= Maturity
And therefore, it's not a contradiction to have Bumblebee already there.
None of the movies have ever established his age.
>using the Rolling Stones in your Transformers trailer and not 80s buttrock
You had one job
Megatron and Optimus feel so generic in this, that dynamic has been done to death.
Not interested. I'm so tired of CG animation. Just looking at it now gives me sensory deprivation.
>dude is getting mad at people for having expectations
Lmao, no wonder Western animation is stagnating.
>aggressively unfunny
>boring aesthetic and character designs
>horribly mismatched voice cast
My expectations were low but goddamn they didn't even try. Why are they so against money that they can't just do the opening sequence of Bumblebee but as a full length movie?
>boring aesthetic and character designs
How is it any different than the usual designs for Transformers?
Bumblebee, Optimus, and Megatron having practically the same body is moronic. It's like an even blander version of G1
This looks like War Within but with the fun sucked out of it. Doubtless it will look better in the movie than Hasbro's unpainted prototype-style toy though. I think the movie's designs are fine, if unexciting. The movie itself looks obnoxious with poor casting but at this point it's what I expected.
James Roberts has done irreparable damage to this franchise and fanbase.
Frick this western trash, watch Masterforce and GOD-ON you plebs.
>gets hit in the balls
>Oooooooo
>robot dog whines and covers face
>WOWIE ZOWIE, RIGHT IN THE ALLSPARKS
Nah, it would be like "Right in the Lugnuts!" and then you have one of more guys whose name is Lugnut turn to the camera confused.
if Rattrap was in Rise of the Beasts we could've gotten this
When Rhinox and Cheetor already were glorified filler?
>when they first announced the movie we were told it would adapt War of Cybertron
>instead we are getting a movie about the bromance of Optimus and Megatron
Wtf happened
>when they first announced the movie we were told it would adapt War of Cybertron
They never said that, they said from the start the movie is about Megatron and Optimus friendship and how it eventually fell apart. That was the pitch ever since it was revealed. You just thought it was adapting War of Cybertron because it's a prequel to the events of the show.
At some point on your journey to adulthood you’re supposed to stop caring so much about basic shit for kids meant to sell toys, and you’re supposed to move to more complex things.
Not saying you can’t enjoy it for what it is, but this level of “it doesn’t conform to how I envision it and the very specific lore I remember” is insane.
>and you’re supposed to move to more complex things.
Like going on basketweaving boards to samegay and complain about people not liking thing?
Ok but I would've been underwhelmed as a kid, too. As would a lot of TF fans when they were kids, back then and now. Maybe really young, 5-9 kids would be entertained, which is a good chunk sure, but by 9 kids start wanting more straight up serious storytelling.
And that’s when they should move on to something else instead of demanding the silly car robot toys mature with them
???
>people expect it to be a prequel to the Bee-verse that's taken as seriously as the Michael Bay films
>it's actually just a generic animated kids film
>Michael Bay films
I hate the gaslighting you people have done to enjoy that garbage
>Movie might result in the Primus origin being overriden by Quints as the Transformer creators origin
This is what makes me think it's meant to be connected to the bay films. The Last Knight was setting up this very thing with Quintessa.
>In ages long past, a race of aliens called the Quintessons existed on the planet-sized factory known as Cybertron. (Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4) Some of their early experiments in creating artificial life resulted in the Trans-Organics. (The Dweller in the Depths) Some Quintessons turned to forbidden arts, and were banished to other dimensions. (Madman's Paradise) The Quintessons eventually created two lines of sentient robots: one was a line of robots designed for domestic duties and labor [known as Autobots], and the other was a line designed for military use [known as Decepticons]. (Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4) The Quintessons were exceptionally cruel to their creations, eventually leading to wide-spread rebellion, a rebellion started by the Autobot A-3. (Forever Is a Long Time Coming) Forced to flee the planet, the Quintessons eventually settled on the small, twisted planet of Quintessa, but fostered an undying hatred of all Transformers for the next eleven million years. (Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4)
People liked PiB: The Last Wish, right? Were the trailers for it stand out in any way or also just 'generic kids movie' trailers?
No, every single one was filled with jokes from the movie. One of them had an extended sequence of Puss being a house cat and shitting on the litter. Outside of the cool animation and wolf character, nobody was impressed.
Every single review of the movie starts with "they didn't have to go so hard!" or "I had no expectations" and look what happened.
>No, every single one was filled with jokes from the movie
Hey, dumbass, it's a trailer. It doesn't mean the whole movie will be like that and your complain rest on denying all the action scene and the implied duties Optimus&co will have to carry that is also present in the trailer.
It's like your brain turn off the moment you hear a one-liner.
>Hey, dumbass, it's a trailer. It doesn't mean the whole movie will be like that
Anon, that's exactly my point. The trailers for Puss in boots were also comedic and the whole movie wasn't like that. I'm not like the schizos upset it's not a gritty war drama.
The one I watched in theaters looked pretty generic
My impression of the trailer of PiB was that it seemed pretty but unremarkable like the first film
Everytime I watch some awful trailer and a friend tells me I should give a cgi movie a change because it was "totally not like the other cgi movies" and I actually end up watching it it's totally like the other cgi movies I hate so I never watched this after seeing the trailer. The panic attack tumblr women relate to doesn't make it sound like I missed anything good.
Yup, War and Fall of Cybertron will remain unsurpassed. It’s crazy that Hasbro allowed its existence when all the Transformers since the AC era has been trash.
The toys got worse after that too.
Every so often when I go to Target, I'll go down the toy isle to see what's new with Transformers, it's such a fricking shame what happened. There's almost no normal toys anymore. It's all gimmick shit that barely transforms, and the ones that do are like $20 happy meal toys.
War for Cybetron was more in-line with what Hasbro's vision of the Aligned Continuity was meant to be. It was the Prime Showrunners who fricked everything up since they wanted to just effectively make the "bay films but as a tv show". They then fricked things further by constantly saying how War for Cybertron was not canon to their show (when it was meant to be the prequel to the show) but then saying that Rescue Bots is set in the same continuity as Prime (which it wasn't meant to).
The greatest tragedy though is that High Moon actually attempted to keep things on track and alot of elements of Fall of Cybertron existed to be connected to things in prime (most notably Trypticon being the Decepticon Warship) but despite their best efforts the Prime creators still gave them the cold shoulder.
The end result of all this being Prime almost killed the franchise, it fricked everything up for every other division of Hasbro and it killed the hope for a third high moon transformers game (that wasn't Rise of the Dark Spark).
Thanks, I needed another reason to hate Prime.
>almost killed the franchise,
I hope you just mean Prime and not Transformers in general.
can someone explain to me this vitriol towards Prime? it wasn't my favorite incarnation but i didn't think it was that bad. Although if they were this fricky behind the scenes I can understand.
I fricking love TFP but I completely agree with this. TFP could have been SO much more if they took the time and if the production wasn't a fricking nightmare. They had very little time to make assets (which is why environments become repetitive later on) and to actually animate shit from what I remember. Very little from existing stuff (like the novels or games) made it in.
Even Season 1 (which is ideally where the show should be and should have taken more time with) has the issue of stuff like not foreshadowing Unicron properly.
The studio despising the games and not wanting to have anything to do with them feels like the biggest problem the series had. WfC and FoC set up the series perfectly, and then the studio throws a tantrum and wants to be special and different so they throw it all out and don't even explain much of the backstory except for Orion and Megatronus' relationship and how it led to the war. Not to mention ignoring things like Metroplex, the Dinobots, or the fact the Nemesis is Trypticon (especially in "Flying Mind" where the ship gains sentience and could have easily been shown as Trypticon revived and he's pissed at what Megatron did to him).
>don't even explain much of the backstory except for Orion and Megatronus' relationship and how it led to the war
Does WfC/FoC even say anything about their origin? As far as I remember all the games say is that Megatron was a gladiator and Optimus was basically a librarian.
I have to play the games again to check.
Imagine if they stuck to the games and whatnot then gave us more G1-ified designs for TFP featuring noses, holy frick.
I mean LOOK AT THIS MEGATRON. Suddenly you can see the G1 design right then and there.
He still is too spiky to be G1 Megatron. Probably still looks like a shark when viewed straight on where the teeth are visible as well.
Maybe, I'd likewise prefer his fusion cannon to be perhaps longer and darker but for me it's all about the face and the expression here. Like, I look at that and can immediately picture Welker's voice from the show and think "that's Megatron". I did hear they took inspiration from the Sharkticons and parts of Bayverse for this Megatron.
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>Imagine if they stuck to the games and whatnot
Imagine if the market changed and you didn't, making you irrelevant.
Oh, wait... No need to "imagine" that...
Your silly robot cartoon matters as a money maker, but you do not. Your precious nostalgia is irrelevant.
Shut the frick up you anti-creative anti-art cum guzzling corporate bootlicker, I will impale you on the Paramount mountain.
>nostalgia
LMAO, the most pathetic non-argument of them all. Imagine accusing others of having nostalgia for shit they didn't even have anything to do with until somewhat recently or for things that aren't even old. Sheer fricking hubris.
Your anger only indicates that you know this to be a fact: you're invisible to the market. You're irrelevant in terms of the market. Face it.
If you can't move past nostalgia, then make a cool shrine and live there, but be aware that every franchise you loved has changed. You will see this new Transformes thing make hundreds of millions, probably over a billion. If they make money without you, what makes you think they need you at all?
>you're invisible to the market. You're irrelevant in terms of the market. Face it.
>Market is G1 inspired toys.
Unironically, yes. As you said, G1 INSPIRED toys. You will see this new bullshit movie make over a billion, without you, which means you don't matter.
Stay irrelevant. Stay mad.
>it doesn't matter how much money it'll make
That's literally all that matters. It's an ad for toys.
>Paramount is paying you! You're a bot!
No o e is paying me, I explain reality to nostalgiagays for free because I enjoy your kind's pain. I'm certainly not a bot.
So you're just a generic miserable avatargayging moron who forces his narratives and likely is off his meds. Figures. There's a descriptor for homosexuals like you.
>Hasbro makes g1 toys which means you don't matter!
>Doesn't understand evergreen.
It's fun watching the pup thinking he has teeth.
The movie will make over a thousand million, without you.
That means you don't matter. They don't need you, so why would they want you.
It's always been a product of low quality, and money is all that matters to Hasbro. Face facts: the new generation of the pony show is real.
I mean, Sonic's arms ARE blue!
I mean, Transformers isn't for you any more and Hasbro doesn't need you.
Got that, Chris?
Even if we strip away the meme-ness and forced humor of your response(s), you sound like a child.
Hot damn we got a fricking tactical ancap over here boys. Yes, why bother caring about improvement or the quality of anything if we live in the time where corporations (that can whatever they want apparently through financial power) can just make an effort to replace their customer base if it does not co-operate through the current political situation making it fashionable. Fricking genius. Whilst we're at it, let's apply it to the national and international level too since the same concepts following the managerial revolution is now being applied to nationwide demographics too. Let's just stop caring entirely.
What the frick is your point, avatargay?
>>The movie will make over a thousand million, without you.
>That means you don't matter. They don't need you, so why would they want you.
Out of curiosity (not as a rhetorical argument), how often has that worked out? I'm guessing there's times where a franchise left its' fans behind and continued to do well or did better. Like YuGiOh's done a bunch of weird shit with its' rules and I'm guessing they've left fans behind somewhere, but I think it still does okay.
Just to add some conditions: the franchise should CONTINUE to do well. Disney Star Wars started stronger than the OG trilogy, financially, but fans really dropped off and now there's virtually no interest in their products.
>lol you dont matter
I also have a saying, I don't care. How does that make you feel?
>I don't care
Yes, you do. People who don't care also don't reply.
>Out of curiosity (not as a rhetorical argument), how often has that worked out?
Dude, it's worked out before with Transformers. The Michael Bay movies left behind the old fans, but were huge hits comercially, both in merch and in box office terms, and they served to revive the IP as a whole.
Also, shock and horror for nostalgia gays, those movies are now old enough to be nostalgic themselves. They're as classic Transformers as the 80s cartoon.
>Just to add some conditions: the franchise should CONTINUE to do well
This movie will be exactly that: the Transformers IP continuing to do well, after the success of Michael Bay's movies revived it.
This movie Is gonna earn over a billions without you, and what more proof could you need of your own irrelevance?
>But they're using the 80s designs! THEY'RE USING THR 89s DESIGNS! REEEEEEEE! I'M RELEVANT! REEEEEEEE!
Well, if they're using the 89s designs then that means you're gonna buy the toys anyway, thus supporting the movie and encouraging them to continue with the sequels with the style and comedy you hate. So you're part of it.
Either that, or You WON'T Buy the toys, proving that they don't need you to make over a billions dollars. Either way, you lose.
So you hate Hasbro so much, You want it to fail?
Cool. Shouldn't that mean that you want their movies to be bad?
If you hate Hasbro, why are you demanding a good movie from Hasbro?
Nostalgia gays contradict themselves again! XD
You hate Hasbro and want it to fail, but you REEEEEE and spray the face of a GameStop employee because Optimus has blue arms? I mean, You REEEE because you have been wanting for a good Transformers movie? You're moronic.
I would make the "t. celebrity name" to answer to this post but I don't even know the celebrities that are voicing the characters or the guys that write it. Anyway you sound like one of them.
>, both in merch and in box office terms
I thought the toys were largely shelf warmers.
Nope. 2007-2011 was as popular as Transformers had ever been barring the original 80s push. They sold a shitload of toys.
Ah well the more you know.
My bad.
To put things in some perspective, this video review of ROTF Optimus has 5 and a half million views: https://youtu.be/ZC8qb-R6yjI?si=4YPpwoRx-u1r2axo
There's shelfwarmers with any line, but the late 2000s were a very good period for Hasbro. Maybe their last great one.
The first live-action movie sold tremendously well, with ROTF surpassing it. Sales took a downturn with DOTM (coupled with oil prices going up resulting in price rises and shrinking toys), but was still very healthy overall. It's not until the fourth movie that things dried up massively (coupled with a revised internal design initiative to make the toys simpler).
>uhh uhh if teh product is of poor quality then why is it still going to make money haha checkmate le xd
wew lad
Paramount Pictures isn't going to pay you for your bike cuck demoralization campaign, homosexual. Nobody said anything about needs or wants, it doesn't matter how much money it'll make, it'll still be utter dogshit just like the Marvel, JJ, Anno, or Bay shit. Your relying on copy & paste arguments.
Also, nobody said anything about nostalgia you absolute homosexual. Stop avoiding the subject just because it collapses the premise of your entire text generator tier response.
It still fricking hurts me that despite how great Aligned Continuity era was it still massively fell short of its full potential. No wonder people always joked about it being "misaligned".
Worse yet, they ditched everything for what? AoE? TLK? ROTB? Bumblebee? ROTD? Some more random comic reboots? RID 2015? Earthspark? Cyberverse? Shitflix WFC? And even bigger disjointed mess if you ask me that falls even shorter.
The problem is completely due to personal egos and none of the creators and writers wanting to take the L and have to kowtow to other media like the WfC video games. It was a failure from the start due to the dysfunctional organization.
It's a shame because from what I remember seeing in the TFP art book they looked a lot closer to what WFC had going on as far as the environmental design goes. Hard to believe WFC was the only project that actually had their shit together from start to finish.
but RID15 is Aligned
>NOBODY had the HUB
I somehow did :DDDDDDDDDDD
>People hate prime because it didn't align with hasbro marketing
lol ok
It's just kinda suffers from the Autobots being kinda boring and wasting all it's plotlines.
It was suppose to be the springboard to Hasbro's version of the MCU that would have been a shared space with GI Joe, Inhumanoids, Micronauts, etc. Except it was an utter failure both ratings wise, creative wise as a series springboard to a shared universe and sales wise as a toyline. And a lot of toy designers Hasbro got fired for the toyline massively underperforming. Other than BM, none of the others like Earthspark, Animated, Cyberverse, etc have had such a negative impact as Prime.
It was popular so Zoomers feel like they have to hate it.
I hated it because of the designs and the plot.
NTA but Prime seems to be the most overhyped series of the whole franchise, not sure why a few haters (including me) make you feel like the big evil majority hated on it. 90% of the tumblr fans I have seen drawing for TF series I liked started with Prime. I hate it and I have yet to see a single fan praising it for anything but shipping shit or "waifus".
They're very obviously basing the movie off the Exodus and Aligned novels and by proxy WFC/FOC, and yet by virtue of it being neutered in the art and writing department (as well as voice talent department) it literally never stood a chance of even coming close to them.
Yet all the dumbfrick Hispanic children or redneck urban youths quipping about and forcing memes in the comments in a vain attempt to somehow praise this marvelslop seem completely oblivious and only know of Bayshit.
This entire situation is fricked and demonstrates just about everything wrong with the state of the modern (American) film industry.
No, it's clearly based on the flashback in Five Faces of Darkness and that part of the Binder of Revelations where Cybertron was under Quintesson control (also inspired by Five Faces of Darkness)
This
It's the best adaption of Transformers to date.
After this trailer I have no hope for the new game.
I know it's not related and the game teaser looked good, at least regarding the tone. But so many bad consecutive retellings made me lose hope. I don't know how they will eventually frick the game up but I know they will, somehow.
Hell I would even be okay with some upbeat action comedy movie story like that of the Devastation game. But we can't even have THAT because it's it's not childish enough or frick knows why the US refuses to produce things like that these days.
>Shill going into overdrive.
>Well THIS scene happened guess that means Transformers is actually silly!
>Uh, Transformers is for KIDS ya know!
>Expectations? Welll, Transformers sucks, actually.
Absolutely delusional.
Yes, the shill very delusional. Like, skimming through the tfwiki right now to skew his point more delusional.
>Absolutely delusional.
Frick yourself wienerroach, he's right and you're a wienersucker who can probably tell a mans age, ethnicity and financial credit score based on the taste of his semen!!!FACT!!!
>you're a wienersucker who can probably tell a mans age, ethnicity and financial credit score based on the taste of his semen!!!FACT!!!
This is about what I expect is going through your delusional minds right now
I didn't really get the idea that the trailer was making Bee and everyone else the same age.
Through I was always curious how Transformer ages are supposed to be. Like, how old is Kup compared to Optimus? Or hell, Blitzwing has to be only slightly younger than Alpha Trion to have even vague memories of his squid overlords.
Alpha Trion
>fan convention makes a proposed, unproduced idea for Alpha Trion's beast era form being a lion, solely because the single Beast Machines Maximal with facial hair at the time had a beard
>This ends up used for future Alpha Trion figures, even when they aren't meant to be Beast era
>Now arguably his most common alt-mode
This franchise is so amusing sometimes.
Here's all the Alpha Trion toys, btw. The Thundertron redeco isn't just Alpha Trion, he's the result of a fusion dance with post-BM Cheetor.
Trion's also had a few additional vehicle altmodes in fiction.
I love shit like that:
>Enemy was a red voice changing mask of the Decepticon cassettes that became a character a few years ago.
>The Maximals in Beast Wars got their name from the director of the show being inspired by his car, a Nissan Maxima.
>"O"rian Pax, Elita-"1", "Di"on, Alpha "Tri"on
>Pic related looks like an Optimus-esc character with Victory Leo colors.
I get the desire to compare it to the High Moon Games, but isn't this closer to Five Faces of Darkness (or at least the flashback parts of it)?
War for Cybertron starts with the Autobots and Decepticons already as established factions and is closer to something like War Within.
I don't mind comedy. The comedy in the trailer is hacky though. It's okay to admit that this movie looks a little grating and has questionable casting while also acknowledging that Transformers isn't an uber-serious property. Both things can be true.
>Autistic screeching about Transformer silliness to defend a bad trailer.
The frick even is this movie? Are the Quitissons even canon anymore? Megatron and Optimus were never fricking friends, Megatron descends from the transformers who subjugated Optimus' race.
>Are the Quitissons even canon anymore? Megatron and Optimus were never fricking friends, Megatron descends from the transformers who subjugated Optimus' race.
the cartoon origin is rarely used as canon, most use a variation of the comic origin with Primus. Sometimes they blend the two and the Quintessons enslave the native Transformers(which some people think is what they're going with here).
Prime and Megatron being friends comes from newer fiction like Aligned and IDW
>came form newer fiction
Well I feel old now
>Megatron descends from the transformers who subjugated Optimus' race.
I'm going to say what is on every anon's mind. The casting department is pretty damn bold for making Megatron, robot Stalin, a black man.
>>Well I feel old now
You and me too, anon.
>making Megatron, robot Stalin, a black man
I'm not even mad about this one. A full character arc from well-meaning but angry blue collar stiff to gang leader to Marxist revolutionary to genocidal dictator would be a hell of a ride.
>Are the Quitissons even canon anymore?
Depends on the continuity. In some they were the ancient overlords of the Transformers (G1, Movies). In others they're just another alien race. In Cyberverse they were made into "Space Cops" who decide if a universe should be spared or destroyed. Starscream gets turned into a Quintesson in this show.
>Megatron and Optimus were never fricking friends
Again it kind of depends on the continuity. But starting from the 2007 movie where they say "we were brothers once" (not in a literal sense more like brothers in arms), the usual origin story for Optimus and Megatron involve them being friends before the war and gradullaly their friendship dissolves (prime/cyberverse). Hell the new Earthspark show has Megatron and Optimus being friends after the war.
>Megatron descends from the transformers who subjugated Optimus' race
That was only ever a thing in the 1980s show. No other continuity uses that concept. Usually it's either Megatron was part of a military class of Transformer or he was a miner who rose up against the system.
All other continuities that aren't connected to or are outside of the 80's show or comics are fanfiction.
Oh please.
Seriously, what is that thing? A unicorn or a lion?
it's a horned lion. stop being stupid
I honestly couldn't tell from that mane.
Eh, passing on it anyway.
It's a unikitty~
>Oh please.
You can deny it all you want but this isn't up for debate.
Learn how multiverses work, Anon.
>multiverses
Again fanfiction
Not to Hasbro.
Hasbro doesn't care about Transformers outside of its commerciality. Literally who cares what they think.
I'm not wasting any more time on you.
Anon you know both the original comics and cartoon had inter-universe travel, right
>Anon you know both the original comics and cartoon had inter-universe travel, right
But that has nothing do with other continuities or adaptions of Transformers. That has to do with universes within their own respected continuity. What you're saying is some nonsense that like the Beastwars can travel to the Prime universe this is ridiculous. This kind of spiderverse idea is a cancer that frankly needs to die. Its a subversive concept stop propagating it.
>What you're saying is some nonsense that like the Beastwars can travel to the Prime universe this is ridiculous.
That actually happened.
I'm not talking about toys.
Well too bad, because toy fiction is canon to the TF Multiverse.
> Toy fiction is canon to the TF Multiverse.
But not to the respected individual continuities and their own canon lore.
>But not to the respected individual continuities and their own canon lore.
I know? That's the point I made at the beginning. Why are you arguing with me about this? Are you stupid?
I wanted to make sure you understand.
Again: that's literally the point I stated at the beginning. I always understood. Just because you lack reading comprehension doesn't mean I lack understanding of the subject.
>that's literally the point I stated at the beginning. I always understood
Good now we are both on the same page.
The page of you being stupid, yes.
That's not even bringing up Transformers Legends.
Ah you are one of those. Why don't you go back to TFW2005 and b***h some more about how much Rodimus sucked and how you cried when Optimus Prime died in the movie.
stop feeding the troll
I actually like Rodimus.
>Are the Quitissons even canon anymore
thats who're the villains in the movie.
You've made the rookie mistake of thinking Transformers has one singular canon. Transformers works on a multiverse system. Anything official is part of a valid alternate universe within that multiverse, but individual universes can have differences.
That's not a multiverse system.
What you just described is the old Lucasfilm Star Wars "tiered canon" which is one of the absolute worst kinds of continuity organization ever.
>X happened but not in Y unless Z happened in the W book
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Multiverse
Well, first of all, that literally not what I described.
Second of all... yes, it is? Are you stupid?
i like megatron having his marvel colors
Never thought I'd see an Orion Pax movie. This timeline is a trip.
That hurt to watch. The same tone and stupidity of the fricking Mario movie.
Does Optimus floss in this one? Some serious zoomer vibes goin' on here.
Just what I always wanted, a Transfomers movie with the same tone as Shrek.
>Optimus Prime in Bayverse: “ There’s more to them then meets the eye.”
>Optimus Prime in Transformers One: “There’s more to us than meets the eye.”
Kino
Wonder if the shot of Starcream, Soundwave and Shockwave around the throne is from the ending since it would fit with the lighting of the scene where Megatron forges the Decepticon logo.
Also, wonder if the blue robot getting tentacle choked is supposed to be Sentinel since he is blue sometimes.
Shouldn't it have been called Transformers Minus One, if it's set before the events that kicks off Transformers?
Yes but One works as "the first chapter" of the war story, but also as a callout to the iconic phrase "'Til all are one"
You're overestimating how smart the average person is. They wouldn't get it.
anon just say you really like Godzilla.
there's an episode of Transformers Prime, called Minus One
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Minus_One
Its not connected to anything
Yeah that seems about right. I wonder if they gave him the aligned continuity bible.
So the Binder of Revelation turns.
Good one.
It will probably be the best Transformer movie in years just on the count of not being related to Bayverse slop at all.
Enjoy your mcu tier jokes and and modern disney level writing
Ill keep my bay kino
Feels like CG animation as a whole has reached the point where hand drawn animation did right before it died in the mid 00s. It's all so same-y and tired.
What does it remind you of? Because its not spiderverse or Pixar style
The director just admitted the trailer doesn't sell the movie well lol
https://collider.com/transformers-one-director-dune/
Isn't it kinda fricked that no matter what the actual contents are, every animated movie basically gets the same trailer?
Reminder to all that movie trailers are NOT made by the same people that made the actual movie. Another team does that.
Except Suicide Squad where the trailer people edited the movie
It's the other way around, Suicide Squad was made, the unrelated trailer crew put out their trailer, and then the trailer crew were made to re-edit the actual movie because of the trailer's reception.
As expected
I did not expect the Rolling Stones
I think the trailer would have been better if they used "I Feel Good" from James Brown
i don't think it would've fit.
>point of movie is learning how to transform
Because the average moron today doesn't understand what a sitcom is and how it differentiated from standard television.
You know what? I liked it.
does this mean we're not getting another "live-action" Transformers movie in the vein of Bumblebee or Rise of the Beasts?
We are. Its a GI Joe crossover.
Paramount has no idea what they're doing
The dumb b***h who owns Paramount waited too long to sell it, so know it looks like they'll go bankrupt
I don't know if it's supposed to be a reference but the blue guy in the opening kinda looks like G2 Dreadwing.
Why is it all Guardians of the Galaxy style comedy throughout? Does Paramount think that TF Wiki gags are what everyone wants to see?
Hemsworth actually sounds weirdly good??? It breaks every so often but actually kind of sounds like a young version of Peter Cullen Optimus.
because he's doing the cadence well. A lot of people think Cullen's Optimus is just a deep, slow voice, and their imitations amount to just saying everything like "I...AM OPTIMUS PRIME" over and over again without realizing how acting works.
Strange how the mutant Mayhem trailer was much better received despite having the same bad comedy and the ugliest April ever.
TMNT fans aren't nearly as autistic as Transformers fans
Animation looked better
People expect random wackyness and comedy from turtles. Not nearly as much from Transformers.
It was badly received by the same people who dislike this trailer, AKA the fans who want the dark and serious stuff instead of the ones aimed at kids
You say this, yet in every damn TMNT thread we got TMNT 2003 schizos complaining about every turtles property that doesn't take itself dead seriously 24/7
Pretty much every Ninja Turtles thing leans hard into 80s cartoon nostalgia. Those people don't exist.
>Those people don't exist.
Buddy I wish I could live in your world, but they very much do. Go to the TMNT thread right now to see.
Why were the g1 comics so dark compared to the show?
The cartoon was written for kids by writers who only wanted a paycheck, the quality mattering very little to them.
You literally, could not be more wrong.
It was written by people who had to force themselves to care a lot and tried very hard with a very shitty schedule because most of them felt the only way to not be fricking miserable about their work on a soulless toy commercial was to inject as much soul as they could and do it for the kids. Literally. That's been the consistent take from basically fricking everyone who's ever spoken about working on it.
Well, except for Donald Glut.
What is interesting is that despite not liking the job or the final scripts, his interests still shine through.
I honestly couldn't even finish the trailer, who the frick wants this?
Toys revealed. That Bumblebee mask and Megatron toy are both totally recycled. Starscream too, I think.
https://news.tfw2005.com/2024/04/18/transformers-one-mainline-toys-revealed-509122
Not surprising. Doesn't the Earthspark toyline also recycle Cyberverse toys?
Yup. Rise of the Beasts used some older stuff too.
Just realized Megatron being called "D-16" is an homage to his Japanese G1 Takara product code (D for Destron, product number 16). Neat.
They've been doing that since Aligned.
I didn't realize that was the origin of it till now
hemsworth as optimus sounds like josh brolin
"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."
You're banned from Transformers threads.
Awww, why?
People missing the point of that quote makes me want to strangle people like you
Isn't there another quote similar to that?
I want to like this but the trailer is so chock full of MCU tier humor it's impossible for me not to cringe
>animation actually looks like dogshit compared to other studios' output
>people still too hung up on it being a buddy adventure
I would have been happy with an Orion/Megs team up movie if it looked good.
Furmansm! Take a shot!
Would've been 10/10 if the trailer played "The Boys Are Back In Town"
This is an absolutely outrageous, sacrilegious dumpster fire. The fact that people can only compare this to Bayshit (which by doing nothing already stands over it in several factors). I cannot believe people (if you call literal children on their phones on YouTube or mindless consumers in the USA people) are praising or defending this obviously MCU inspired kiddieslop.
They promised something resembling WFC, Exodus, Bee's opening (inspired by the former) but instead you basically get Earthspark (ugly kiddieshit) with a $110 million budget and cancerous celebrity actors (anything other than Cullen and Welker whilst they still live is objectively wrong, even though they'd be wasted on this script). The fricking NERVE of people in the YT comments to call this "new and different" when it is literally no different to what the Amerigoblin movie industry has been doing for over a decade now.
Press S to spit.
Guys, its not healthy to take this franchise so seriously.
It's not healthy to spend hundreds of millions on watered down kiddieshit. VFX artists are barely getting by as it is, people need not be oppressed by terrible writing.
Anon, theres something I need to tell you. It might shock you, so be ready. Okay? You all set?
This franchise is made for children.
Just because something might have been made for children once, doesn't excuse it being poorly written or utterly dogshit. Another tired, outdated, debunked disingenuous argument among many to defend this shitty product. All falling in line one after the other as soon as this movie comes out.
They gave up on that after Revenge of the Fallen's toys were too complex for children to play with.
TRANSFORMERS RUINED FOREVER
Guys, we finally found him
Is that Laurence Fishburne or Peter Cullen as Alpha Trion?
Laurence.
These gormless fricking Earthspark faces
Bee and Megatron are straight up worse than Earthspark even.
Why do they have 3d printing ridges
How did someone look at this and not think this is uncanny valley? The shading looks so fricked up too. They almost look untextured too.
WFC Siege somehow looks like an art piece next to this despite the fricked up lips they got on the characters.
israeliteflix WFC at the very least respects the Transformers art style to the letter more often than not and actually looks fricking badass at times. But what in the FRICK were the Hasbro execs smoking when they created Earthspark's "art style" that we see here?
Yeah for as much hate as DeSanto series get (for good reasons) I always loved their designs and don't understand why they are the only ones ever sticking to the original looks and just varying them, opposed to series going full hipster with it.
I also might be the minority but I always disliked the designs with white pupils and prefer them with monocolored eyes.
genuinely looks like a late 360 game with that bloom lighting
Someone had to have approved these designs, which makes me wonder how you can be so incompetent yet still employed. Look at those fricking faces.
>what if we adapted exodus and made optimus & megatron dumb quippy teenagers from a 21st century american ghetto and have them voiced by celeb actors
HERESY
DESTROY IT
Remember when Hoist became a Hollywood actor?
What in the Primus damned did I just witness?
This has the director of the last Toy Story movie. I shit you not.
I'm still unclear as to what magical macguffin they'll be chasing after this time. The Matrix of Leadership?
From what I've been told, it'll be the Matrix (same as the novel and game) and once he gets it at the end of the movie Optimus will get Peter's voice back which is... not really how it should work.
Orion didn't speak with Prime's voice back in "War Dawn".
Yes but think about it logically. The Matrix shouldn't make Optimus into a new bot here, it just gives him info.
in the Japanese dub they had the same seiyuu.
So War for Cybertron with Marvel quips?
more like Shazam 2 with robots
Man I thought we were gonna get more of this. I don't mind the quips in a "before the war" thing, but the designs and animation look awful for a theatrical release. They look like dollar store TF Prime designs with the same body kit.
They look like the Earthspark designs.
Yeah I take it back, it's more ES than Prime. I hate Hollywood's obsession with putting realistic faces on these designs. So uncanny.
We almost had something with Aligned, but they fricked that up so hard. RiD was so boring and TF Prime dragged on way too long.
Every wish i have as a transformers fan the past decade has been a monkey's paw....
It is easier to hide behind a mask of self-parody and quips than try to make something genuine.
This. This here was the biggest though because the TF related lore I loved most of all was DW's Megatron' Origin and other past/early Megatron content of them. But MO could never reach it's full potential due to being cut short because of DM's issue so my biggest TF related wish was to see a full pre-war movie once. Now fanart and discussions of this shit movie will fill the tags and threads forever.
I wish I hadn't wished for it and I will curse Pat Lee till the day I die.
>I don't mind the quips in a "before the war" thing
I do mind it because shit was already tense on Cybertron before the war even began. It was the calm before the storm, the twilight of its golden age.
the design is not even bad, is the Tone.
>designs aren't bad
>ONE
NO
I WANT TWO
Can somebody tell me what's up with this constant photoshopping of human faces onto TF designs? Why can't they look like robots anymore? It even clashes with the rest of the designs. unironically looks like someone shopped those faces into the pic. I can maybe accept Megatron, but Optimus is beyond atrocious.
Anon you might have face blindness
I know almost nothing about Transformers, but I can't believe they're are people out there contrarian/delusional enough to think the Bay films are anything but execrable garbage.
"Old Good, New Bad" is getting terminal now. VERY terminal.
You're very wrong. Nowadays it's definitely more "Old Bad, New Good" because people are trained to worship corporations.
Bayshitters are just moronic
>but whatabout muh bayshit
because it's literally true 99% of the time
>my opinions are absolute fact, worship them
i embody the consensus among those with functioning pattern recognition and knowledge of the industry therefore yes
kneel before me
the kids who grew up with them are online now(for years really)
>Filtered out of bay kino
Many such cases
I hate this new trailer but I hate Bayshit too and never bothered to watch any of his movies after dropping the first one.
Why does everything look so smooth, rounded, or like plastic in this? It's even worse than ROTB. It's like Earthspark on a bigger budget. The faces themselves look like they used a default metallic shader half of the time.
Well, I'm always happy for more Transformers, but I'd still wish one day we'd get a more mature series at some point
also maybe I'm blind, but I didn't see Megatron transform, so I'm wondering if he's a gun or not
>also I saw Skywarp, Starscream, Soundwave and Shockwave
I still think they could have added some more drama, instead of having the chosen four
the last Transformers series I watched was Prime no, that's a lie, it was Rescue Bots and then we got that awfully animated series whose name I can't recall
>earthspark?
also I'm not really sure how to feel about Orion and Megatron being of the same 'standing' I liked cop Orion Pax and Miner Megatron from IDW1
what ever happened to the TF comics anyway?
Cop Pax sucks. Actually IDW Prime in general sucks. Turning a cop into an aloof military leader who destroys everything around him isn't interesting at all. Clerk or dockworker Pax is better.
IDW rebooted their comic and somehow made it lamer and more wall of text then i ever thought possible before losing the rights.
The new TF comic is new so there's still room for a frickup but its pretty badass. A trait sorely missing in TF media for a while.
My biggest problem with IDW 2 was that there were way too many characters and way too many ideas all going at it at once
It is funny how the three main flyers Starscream, Skywarp and Thundercracker actually don't interact with each other at all in IDW 2- and then when we get Thundercracker the series just ends
>but I'd still wish one day we'd get a more mature series at some point
You got 3 seasons of that on Netflix and you all hated it.
>also maybe I'm blind, but I didn't see Megatron transform, so I'm wondering if he's a gun or not
You can see him in the scene where Bumblebee transforms, he's some kind of boxy vehicle, so I assume he's a cybertronian tank by the end.
>cybertronian tank
Dropped, Megatron is a handgun and will always be a handgun.
Megatron was a gun for a bit 40 years ago
The tank is overdone, I won't deny that, but there's a very good reason why no one dares to touch the handgun form anymore, the leader of the decepticons turning into a stupid pistol that can't even fire at will unless it's being handled by someone else is fricking moronic
Well, that and you can't make a toy of it anymore.
The very good reason is laws that state children's toys can't resemble real firearms.
A tank is just a handgun on wheels. Nothing has changed.
I'd rather the jet than the tank
Damn looks pretty terrible. Voice acting seems really awful, shitty designs and CG, tone all over the place.
Say what you will about TMNT Mutant Mayhem and the Spider-Verse movies but at least they had a distinctive style and tone. This seems like generic 2020s CG kids slop
>This seems like generic 2020s CG kids slop
Tell me what other 2020s CG movies look like this
All of them, they're slop, remember.
>can't even mention three
concession accepted
If this bombs, I never wanna hear of you homosexuals demand another Transformers movie without humans ever again.
Got it, homos? No more. Close your lips and your buttholes.
I love how people can't tell who a character is unless they're 100% 1:1 carbon copies of the very first version and any deviation is viewed with rage and hate.
I accuse you of being a face-blind moron.
That is what happens when you don't put in the effort to be distinct iterations, so you just have a lesser copy of something that already exists.
NTA I've always had a soft spot for Armada's design for Blur. Rework the toy kibble so he looks more funtcional and you'd have a cool modern bot right there.
Guardians of the Galaxy ruined Cinema.
Frick it really sounds like Marvel writing. Im not asking for grimdark, but for frick sakes. This is just a cope but: maybe the trailers are trying too hard to be funny and the real movie isnt like that.
Who am I kidding, the real movie is probably like that.
The comedy is the only thing keeping me from being optimistic. No pun intended The designs are fine.
It is trash, but it is it's own universe, so it doesn't matter, this will be settled where it always is settled and always will be settled, clogging the shelves and then in the isles of walmart discounted bin
Best opinion ITT
Every thread that isn't an MCU thread gets tons of schizoposting talking about how "X Franchise was always garbage and it should die already and nobody cares about it".
Okay, here's my theory.
Cybertron is secretly being controlled by the Quintessons. Perhaps they won a war, that's why we see Alpha Trion looking rough and forgotten in an old cave. That's where he's been hiding since the fall.
As part of their law, all transformers who are not authorized collaborators have their tcogs removed just after forging before they even awaken.
Alpha trion even says as he gifts them what very much looks like a tcog, "unlock your true pote tial" true because their original ability was stolen from them long ago.
The movie is actually about the rebellion and kicking them off the planet. The drones we see all over the place are likely the soldiers of the Quintessons.
The big conflict between Optimus and megs falling out will likely be a result between what to do with the collaborators after the war is won. Megs will want revenge. Prime will want to forgive.
It could be the Aligned story again, where the Quntessons show up, trick the bots into slavery, and institute functionism.
But yeah, this is definitely a "bots vs Quints" story.
If this supposedly takes place during the Age of Wrath then it would make sense for Optimus and Megatron to be physically younger (Megatron was created around this time and lived to see the Quintessons overthrown with Sentinel taking power) but that's still no excuse for the writers to depict them as acting like a bunch of hobos from new millennium America.
Megatron in the Exodus novel, related media, and apocrypha
>"As we killed our opponents in the ring, we saw in their deaths the realization that they were individuals. And so we knew we were too. In killing, we understood life. In being the most disposable of commodities—a gladiator whose remains are thrown into the junkpile to be picked over and scavenged, the healthy pieces sold off to brokers in Iacon and Crystal City—in being disposable, we discovered we had value."
Megatron in the new movie (which competes with the media above in retelling roughly the same origin story)
>"You know what, we are SO screwed!"
Top is for dorks, bottom is for normal people
You do have books in the 21st century, don't you? Normal people once got to the point where they would actually read once upon a time. Though I should figure with the sudden emergence of so-called "brain rot" within our language that the rate of illiteracy is sharply rising.
It insists upon itself.
Top is what bottom character is destined to become
Yeah right, that's so believable. Because someone who acts like a humpty bumpety street rat from sweet home Alabama is totally the kind of guy we'd expect to see working in the gulags since his childhood.
That is literally what's described from the movie, that Megs starts as D-16, a lowly caste slave that's forced to do labor and rejected from the city above him.
Gonna be blunt dudes....
That does not look good. As soon as the trailer had the scene with the characters going "Lets transform!" and they all fall down a cliff in an attempt at humor or seeing the characters do awkward comedy like not knowing how to transform except half way leading slapstick comedy it made me decide I'm not watching this. I hope it fails. This is simply bad. And I'm not even some extreme Transformers purist but geez this does not inspire confidence. The only compliment I can give this lousy looking movie is it's not as hideous as israeli Seth Rogen's Ninja Turtles. And that's not saying much.
And another thing Scarlet Johansson is a piece of shit so I hope this movie fails and that her career dies. Aging shitty talent LACKING old hag. She never should have been a thing.
Roxxon Presents: Transformers
I don't see how a fully animated adventure in Cybertron that ends in tragedy (Optimus and Megatron breaking their friendship) is ruined just because there's comedy in it.
I don't expect it to go as dark as it could given the trailer's tone, but I definitely see there's a lot more than shitty Bumblebee jokes here.
They should have gotten someone like Zack The Hack to direct a movie that's set entirely on Cybertron, if the first 20 minutes of MoS on Krypton (an adaptation of The Last Days of Krypton) were anything to go by. Imagine what could have been done with adapting Exodus in a similar fashion.
They should have also brought back Jablonsky or went straight for Tyler/Zimmer to do the score. It would have been kino.
Instead we get the fricking Toy Story guy. EH?
>Zack Snyder Transformers
Just bring him in to do shit like the camera work and framing or as an assistant. Doesn't have to do anything else.
im really tempted to just write my own fan fiction for pre war cybertron ive been crafting in my head the past few years...
For what its worth, its "testing well".
Just industry scuttlebutt.
>Word is that Paramount’s upcoming summer animated tentpole Transformers One is the best tested feature toon movie in the studio’s history and will surprise many.
>Shrek was refreshing.
no it wasn't, it was the same booger-fart joke shit most American cartoons did that I fricking hated.
Oh, wait, that quote is from Deadline.
https://deadline.com/2024/04/paramount-lorenzo-di-bonaventura-1235881930/
At this point I'm not even surprised they brought in the diversity hire to voice that thing masquerading as Megatron. As for the cast choice for Optimus, the only thing people (normalhomosexuals) will only be able to talk about is how "omgush it's the heckin marvelrino thorino!!!" or some shit.
Either way, no chance for kino like pic related.
Wait, who the frick is Steve Buscemi voicing in this? Only transformers character I can imagine having a voice like that is Rattrap and he obviously won’t be in this.
Starscream, allegedly.
I really, really hate this. Voices are atrocious, the trailer makes me want to murder Bee already, the "comedy" is hot meme crap for toddlers ala Pixar, none of the characters but Elita of all things (usually don't like her) seems likeable, the faces are ugly as shit and I always fricking hated that song and it feels too much like they're using it assuming that would make shit funnier but it only makes the jokes feel even more forced.
The only good thing I can say about it is that I love the backgrounds. Hope Sentinel kills half of the cast.
>Hope Sentinel kills half of the cast.
He's too based to be left unchained in this movie. Also checked.
Yeah, not digging it. Feels like an upscaled episode of Cyberverse or Earthspark. Considering what the Cybertronians had to deal with in the time before the Great War this movie looks like it's gonna be way too silly and slapstick.
>those voices
Gonna wait for the Japanese or Italian dub here.
Deciding to make Megatron sound like an "urban youth" is just about the single most mystifying thing shown off in the trailer for me. I can see where the quips and the terrible humour came from but that voice is just plain bizarre from top to bottom.
>Deciding to make Megatron sound like an "urban youth"
He... doesn't? His voice actor is black, that's all. He's not "urban youth"y at all.
Like, I doubt it'll be revolutionary, but it probably won't be any worse than okay either.
What's funny is that people still expect anything for animated movie trailers when all of them are basically done the same way.
I despise this kid friendly 1350 non-Megatron and nu-Bumblebee physically. The real D-16/Megatron would grind these annoying c**ts into powder and blow their dust into the Hadean star. For once, I sympathize with Lord Megatron's intense bloodlust and wish to emulate it myself.
can't we get an action oriented series like the Unicron trilogy again?
Action in the Unicron Trilogy kinda sucked. Like, 90% of the fights are either awakward grapples, stock footage or characters standing still and blasting each other.
I liked the general story (Megatron and Starscream's relationship in that series deserves a revisit) but animation and dubbing have always been the biggest issues for those shows.
Yeah I agree. They're pretty dated. I more meant the spirit of an action oriented show. Its been a while since i rewatched so maybe im talking out of my ass i dunno. Its just sorta the tone they had thats been missing for a while.
Getting a modern show but animated and written like Devastation would be so kino.
>Getting a modern show but animated and written like Devastation would be so kino.
Thanks now I want this and I know I will never get it.
They don't make action shows anymore. The early-to-mid 2010s saw a string of them fail in rapid succession and now no one wants to try.
>we will never get kino like this again
>Getting a modern show but animated and written like Devastation would be so kino.
Real question why don't we get something like that?
It's close enough to G1 to attract all the oldgays, it's nice to look at with modern CGI standards, the colors are nice and it's an action comedy but one that doesn't rely on zoomer humor and the robots look actually cool instead of derpy. Even the IDW fans I know that played that game loved it and it even almost contained a comic character like Nova.
Tell it to me straight, we will never get anything close to the 87 movie isn't it? I don't even want it to be G1 related, I just mean the overall writing quality, the look and the seriousness of it.
I like comedy in combinations with serious shit but the humor of these modern movies is unbearably cringe if you are older than four and every character acts like a damn kid and it's always a comedy first and foremost and everything else is seen as extra at best. And let's be real nothing serious will happen in a show like this. I wouldn't wonder if the only ones dying would be Sentinel Prime (since he's very toxic) and his grunts and mayybe some one-off side character for the boohoo scene that confirms how problematic Megatron became.
Well at least we have the current comic run.
After Earthspark Bee (the only good part of the show IMO) I hoped they finally learned to write that character properly but the trailer made me want to murder him. DWJ was right.
Our worlds are in danger.
I don't know celebrities but whoever is voicing Optimus has to be shot so that he never voices anybody anymore.
He's not voicing Optimus Prime. He's voicing Orion Pax.
Yeah whatever he does the voicing is awful. None of them seem good but this is the worst by far.
Same character you fool.
Any and all praise in the YT comment on this shlock is from equally childish cretins and imbecile, anything else is all easily and necessarily debunked because it's nothing new in the list of common copes and defenses for Hollywood slop.
Tells you all you need to know about this movie.
Oh no, oh your city lies in dust, my friend.
at least we're getting Airachnid
There is absolutely nothing in this movie that sounds (let alone looks) good so far. Maybe the setting, but that seems like a weak reason to watch a movie.
I hope it will at least have some interesting characters considering that it's a pre-war story and everything. But I am almost convinced it somehow won't. This would be THE chance to define how 'Cons looked and acted like before the war and introduce a few pre-war only guys from earlier series, but there is no way a movie like that will care about that. Too busy with moronic jokes.
>There is absolutely nothing in this movie that sounds (let alone looks) good so far.
The don't watch it. They don't need you. They'll make over a billion dollars without you.
Welcome to being old and irrelevant.
I don't give a shit. Pixar is also making money but it's still shit and I will say so. Stop talking like a fricking woman from twitter you troony.
Sonic arms are blue, dude. Stop REEEEEEEing and accept facts, you irrelevant homosexual.
Funniest part is, you Will buy the toys! So you WILL support the movie!
I won't frick ass. I only buy toys of characters I like. Of the VERSIONS I like. Never bought bay shit toys either. Stop being obsessed with what I fricking do and what I won't, it's showing your insecurity.
>I won't frick ass
Everyone knows that you won't frick ass. Or any other hole.
>I only buy toys of characters I like. Of the VERSIONS I like
That only shows that when the new movie becomes a hit and makes over a billion, which it will, it'll be a huge hit and make a billion WITHOUT YOU.
Which is the only proof needed of your irrelevance. If they make a hit movie and nove millions of dollars without you, then they don't need you. And so, why would they want you?
Welcome to being old and irrelevant, b***h!
That's also tacky bullshit. Fun, cool tacky bullshit, but tacky bullshit none the less.
But it's the style of tacky bullshit from 2005, and the intro even has a rap segment. You think that's cool, but in 2005 it was just the thing to do.
The new movie has the humor and style that is, today, the thing to do. Deal with it, grandpa. Sonic's arms ARE blue. REEEEE hard if you wanna, that's the cry of the impotent old and irrelevant autistic.
Awful optimistic of this movie's success
Personally, I'm predicting a middling return. That sweet grey area of "I guess technically we made a profit but I wouldn't call it a hit"
>Personally, I'm predicting a middling return
Then I guess time will tell, but I have one word for you: China.
Your prediction will either be proven correct of it won't. I'm betting that it wont.
Transformers movies do extremely well, even the ones we hate. SPECIALLY the ones you hate.
I mean, so long as they aren't named The Last Knight, Bumblebee, or Rise of the Beasts, then yeah they do make boatloads
The era of Hollywood betting on China has been over for a while.
This movie will attract the worst types of fans
It won't. The art style is utterly unappealing as frick, it will fail to attract new fans on that fact alone even if it weren't badly written.
Crying nostalgigays make me laugh.