Issa López, who served as showrunner for True Detective: Night Country, the fourth and most successful iteration of the crime franchise, will oversee the next installment as part of an overall deal she signed with the network.
As part of López’s new multiyear deal, she will also create new content for HBO and Max.
https://deadline.com/2024/02/true-detective-renewed-season-5-hbo-issa-lopez-overall-deal-1235834470/
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YES! FRICK YESSS!!! SUCK IT CHUDS LOL!!!!
Who wore the strap on at the after-party?
That's great I'll just keep watching 1-3 only thanks
>watching 3
Frick you, 3 is good. Stephen Dorff's performance is amazing.
> the fourth and most successful iteration of the crime franchise
PizzaLatte on suicide watch, girls get it done!
i love how they can just say whatever they want
I really don't get how streaming platforms never have to clarify or prove any of their statements. They can all just make claims that a show they own is the most successful thing ever released and at the same time refuse to release any kind of numbers to prove the statement. It's all just such a joke at this point.
I wonder how far we are from sort of legislation towards that since it exists to keep stock prices up and lie and say engagement is high.
Maybe if paramount fumbles more, since their streaming side has been a bit of a disaster.
>I wonder how far we are from sort of legislation towards that since it exists to keep stock prices up and lie and say engagement is high.
It will probably take someone leaking actual figures from one of the major streaming platforms and proving that they're grossly exaggerating or flatly lying about their success. That or the general population getting worked up about it and demanding more transparency.
Yeah, unfortunately. I just feel with this process it just cultivates these shit shows. They put something in there to rivial both groups, it creates buzz on social media and then they never have to show numbers just “engagement”
I’m tired of this constant stream of slop.
With advertising now being inserted surely clients purchasing ad slots could have the numbers audited if they were suspicious?
The studio system was broken up because of similar practices. But since viewership no longer means revenue, no one cares.
they claim it was the most watched season of the show
which I don't know how is that possible.
I blame india
because stupid people hatewatched it
all the true fans pirated it
such is life
S1 came out on HB0. NC came out on Max. More people have the streaming service today in 2024 than had the subscription to HBO back in 2014.
It's not. Nobody watched it. Everybody who saw the trailer said "wtf is this shit?". They're just keeping their ESG scores up.
>I blame India
You don't know how right you are. They are also the ones singlehandedly responsible for keeping Halo alive past season 1. They will watch literally ANY trash and say WOW SO GOOD AMAZING SIRS WOW!!!
Your assuming the foid journalist isn’t making the whole thing up
I
These shows and properties are being turned into skin suits quicker and quicker.
At least now I can know to not care and move on.
s4 would be a solid 7/10 if the lesbians were hot
It was so stupid a bunch of cleaning Indians killed all the scientists and then the police who would have had major oversight from the state’s DA and the media just ignore it and nobody cares
Where are the scientists families they would demand answers?!
8 dead guys at a research center would attract international attention
Jodie foster would have had to give the case to the state police she wouldn’t have a choice like when the FBI show up in die hard
Season 1 at least made sense a dead prostitute won’t attract much notoriety the FBI wouldn’t get involved much
Jodie Foster will return, set in Hawaii
i feel personally responsible for contributing to the seasons ratings via hatewatching
I torrented every episode and rated it 1/10 on imdb
its insane how bad it was. not even taking into consideration the violent political message it obviously has
>fourth and most successful iteration
What an insane thing to say
Random fact: Enron’s best year was the year just before it collapsed.
Nice.
Here's how it's going to go:
>S5 promotion comes out with expectations to be another banger
>they get some other high-profile actress (you know it's going to be a female lead), maybe Margot Robbie
>initial hype from Issa Lopez fans will be strong
>opener will be just like opener of S4: just interesting enough to string you along to tuning in the next week
>but normies will get the ruse
>they'll know it'll just be another bullshit marathon of trite drama and nothing happening
>views will be nowhere near S4, 3, or any of the seasons
>show will tank in views
>polarization and culture war threads will spark up, just like S4, but nobody will listen
>show fades into obscurity and failure
>Issa Lopez is let go from True Detective, Pizzaman comes back on board
Nature is healing. It's always darkest before the dawn.
Hopefully they have the same filmbro pandering with a copy of a loved film right in frame.
What the frick are you even saying? I swear the got that half the replies on shill threads are AI.
The copy of The Thing sitting in full view trying to lure people into thinking it’ll be just as good. It’s very possible you were distracted by the terrible fake static.
Oh that, sorry, now I understand.
...I legit believe Lopez likes The Thing. And S1. It's ironic that her inspirations are male-created shows and movies.
>Pizzaman comes back on board
that will never happen
>pizzaman coming back is the good ending
No. The good ending is the series dying with whatever dignity it has left.
The dignity is already gone, but you're right, that is probably the true outcome.
two more weeks
The actual claim “most watched season on [whatever the platform is called now]”
This show made me cancel my HBO subscription, absolute trash
What do you think the plot/mystery will be this time?
He was based as frick. There will never be a tv character like that ever again
How can director write the most watched HBO show after doing 12 mediocre movies
I still can't grasp the reason why she got hired to be a showrunner considering her past experience.
Nic Pizzolato literally only wrote 2 (two) episodes in his entire career before he did True Detective.
He's created a cult-following TV show from scratch.
Nobody would care about The Night c**try if it wasn't for the True Detective name established by Pizzolatto.
How did he do it unironically? He just writes 2 episodes and AMC before he gets frustrated and quits, then he goes to HBO and they give him a blank check and total creative control as the sole showrunner and writer. And the show goes from pitch to premiere in just under 2 years.
obviously because he wrote something good, they were impressed, and he pitched it well
That's why they hired Cary Fukunaga to direct. He has experience.
speaking of, jej
whats going here?
A literal wizard with a long white beard goes into a crowded town hall meeting and explodes the mayor with lightning from his hands, and he escapes when all the police officers out to catch him die from cancer at the same time
The true detectives has one detective who fricking hates magic and refuses to believe it is real, from reasons going back to his tragic childhood, while the other doesn't really give a shit I think
This will all be shown to have a logical explanation that all leads back to the local big pharma
White men bad
They lied about how successful it was and now are pretending to renew it for another season as a result. It will be cancelled just like all the other shows and movies these companies lie about and then quietly cancel.
god i hope so
>They lied about how successful it was and now are pretending to renew it for another season as a result.
Why though?
Why would streaming companies lie about their numbers?
Stock price.
and advertisers if/when they add commercials.
Vanity Fair throwing shade at Pizza:
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/true-detectives-issa-lopez-on-her-inspiration-for-night-country-and-what-season-5-might-bring
>Speaking of sides, True Detective creator Nic Pizzolatto has made it no secret that he is not a fan of López's iteration of the series, reposting fan comments on social media criticizing Night Country. Despite serving as executive producer on the season, López told Still Watching that she has had no contact with Pizzolatto or first-season stars and executive producers Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson.
she doesnt need those chuds
Should I watch Season 3? I still have a week left of my subscription.
Season One was okay, I guess, altho I never got the hype. And Night Country had plenty of comfy snow, but otherwise it wasn't very interesting. (I also hear Season Two is the worst.)
Contrarians here will tell you know but yes, watch it, it was good and it was better than Season 2. My only criticism is that it tried just a tad too hard to feel like S1 but it does things differently enough. It kind of has a troll ending depending on who you are but I thought it was brilliant.
>know
I don't know wtf is wrong with me before someone laughs at me I think I'm turning into Detective Hayes.
I guess I'll have to give it a shot, then. Any idea how many episodes I need to watch, to find out, if it's "for me" or not?
You should be hooked after the first one. It's well-written.
It's a slow start (I don't mind that personally) and picks up around episode 4. So if you don't like it after the fourth episode you can just stop watching.
if you don't mind depressed main characters (3/4 are depressed/borderline suicidal) than i would absolutely recommend season 2. I liked all three seasons. But the only ones i go back to are 1&2. I liked S3 but i cannot get into it on rewatch.
i think you meant to say the fourth successful not the most successful
At this point I'm very sure this is a kind of humiliation ritual. In fact the entirety of Hollywood now seems to be centered around destroying the dominant meta-narratives of the West in the most humiliating way possible
It's transparant nonsense. Just like the Ghostbusters 2016 reviews. Many of those shitheads later admitted they reviewed it so well because of their political agendas.
To add. Note that the concept of Truth does not exist to these people as it does to other human beings. They decide what's true themselves - create fake reviews, fake buzz, fake articles, and pay people to go online and argue against people who have real opinions and real criticism. Then they use their own fake content as proof of a success, and can successfully keep driving their ideological agenda, with the public none the wiser. This is the ultimate control, the dominance of the small, vicious, greedy personal self versus Nature itself.
Holy keks! easy skip. This can't be true! haha HBO fricking sellouts.
Season 1 - White Men
Season 2 - Irish and 1 white guy (Taylor Kitsch)
Season 3 - Nigras
Season 4 - Women
What minority group is Season 5 gonna have as their cops? hispanics or LGBT? Season 1 was the only white season and also the best
What about Vince?
season 2 is secrelty the best because it points out pedophiles and creepy frickers in power that flodo our country with immgirants and ruin the nation that was once great with unwinnable situations.
Pedo trannies will be the True Detectives.
you gotta be fricking dick shitting with me
jesus christ they'll really greenlight anything these days huh
if its good they wont.
Night Country looks like shit, but the shitposting finally got me to give the original show a try and holy shit it’s kino. I just got done with the first episode of season 1 and I’m actually pissed at myself for sleeping on this shit.
It's one of the best seasons of television to be made, anon, where have you been? Enjoy.
Season 1 came on when Game of Thrones was on the rise and I was a sci-fi/fantasygay at the time, so I didn’t care about mundane cops and criminals stuff. I was a dumbass but I’ve since become more enlightened to true KINO
I don't even watch much TV. I remember visiting my parent's and the trailer for it came on and my mom's like "holy shit." Me and her didn't know anything about it, but it just looked moody and cool. It paid off.
He’s a big-ass dick guy
Alright, I’m on the 2nd episode now and Daddario’s breasts already put this show at 11/10 for me. What the frick, how did I miss this shit?
You’re absolutely right so far.
1>3>4>>>>>2
I will die on this hill.
4 was garbage with horrid writing but it at least had an incredible and unique setting. The setup for it had a lot of potential (Ep 1 and 2) but it falls off a cliff.
2 is straight irredeemable dumpster fire SHIT. The only redeemable character in the show was Ray, who they did mind-bogglingly dirty at the end. I can accept him dying, why do they also have no keep him from sending a fricking heartfelt text to his son? The homosexual cop was useless. The girlboss character cop was horrible. Vince Vaughn's character was ok but his acting was fricking horrible - I cannot stand his stupid fricking forced bad guy Batman voice. Not to mention it has so much convoluted nonsense for little to no payoff. If you need a recap:
>4 different independently operating characters whose time spent on-screen together is minimal until later episodes. Plethora of side-characters and interpersonal drama surrounding each of them.
>A Russian gang, a Mexican cartel, another Mexican gang into Santa Muerte worship, israeli mobsters, Frank's gang, Vinci PD, Ventura County PD, state police, and Catalast + Black Mountain.
>Constant backstabbing and double-crossing within all of the above.
It feels like Pizzolatto was trying to cram three seasons worth of material into an eight-episode miniseries, and you're left constantly wondering if this long conversation you're seeing on-screen has anything to do with impending plot developments or is just more personal drama.
Then once you've pieced it all together, the only payoff you get in the final episode is seeing the police chief get assassinated and Ray+Frank shoot up the Russian mob. All of the protagonists, including the perp of the original murder, die except the most annoying one with some of the most hamfisted characterization I've seen for that type. If there's any justice for the criminal conspiracy, it maybe happens off-screen after the show ends.
I don't agree that 2 was as bad as you say but I do agree with a lot of your points. Ray got fricked and didn't deserve it. I thought Vince Vaughn was fine.
My biggest gripe is probably just from being spoiled from season 1. In season 1 at least, the plot stayed focus on THE MURDER the whole time, you know, the actual crime. It was interesting to see them go into more conspiracy shit in season 2 but it really detracted from the original murder. I watched episode 1, saw casper's death and thought, "wow, this is going to be really cool, I can't wait to see how this murderer plays cat and mouse taunting the police" and then that plotline fizzled out in favor of the rich guys human trafficking plotline. Ideally, they would have just set it up similar to season 1, where the killer was being hired by the rich guys in order to pick off people dangerous to their organization. Or, the killer is more active, actually going to war against the rich people and getting a lot more kills. But a single one? Kind of lame.
Season 2 was obviously influenced by Pynchon-style neo-noir stories where the world is ruled by an impenetrable web of overlapping conspiracies and interests. There isn't supposed to be any justice or a happy ending. Season 4 on the other hand fails to even tell a coherent story on the basic level. It was just a feminist revenge fantasy masquerading as a detective story.
>new multiyear deal
Jesus fricking Christ. What the frick is wrong with the garden variety morons who STILL pay for HBO? Learn how to download this shit for free, pay for IPTV, ask the geek/s who exist in your friends/family network to set you up for a token fee, they'll take the money and it'll be cheaper than watching this utter dogshit.
Will it be a genderqueer Black womyn and a pajeet transman teaming up to take down an entire town of white patriarchal klansmen that want to lynch every PoC in their county?
is season 4 overe can i finally start
yeah start it up jodies hot
>be very obviously bad at your job
>get promoted because you aren't a white man
I love current year
They're only keeping her on to attract eyeballs if she wasn't there making a c**t of herself in public no one would be talking about hbo at all.
They're not going to stop unstil you make them stop, in the real world and not online like seething chimps. They have israeli fake finance behind them. You don't.
also the lowest rated season on imdb
>inb4 review bombing
It’s only reviewbombing when it isn’t positive