>try to read up on Prometheus and Alien lore
>forums are taken over by literal boomers that believe in ancient aliens writing ramblings.
>try to read up on Prometheus and Alien lore
>try to read up on Prometheus and Alien lore
>forums are taken over by literal boomers that believe in ancient aliens writing ramblings.
BIG
Go to AvP Galaxy.
I used to go there before the release of Prometheus. I loved reading all the speculation, my hype for that movie was unreal. Shame we never got a true sequel.
That gatorade needs to be shooped into a white monster
Is that piss?
No its the genetic precurser to piss. All piss actually stem from that can of Pissonium
My man's the genetic precursor to Bear Grylls then
His name is Ridley Kellyan
Prometheus is garbage and should be non-canonical
it is garbage and it is non canon, same with covenant since its derived directly from it, the alien franchise ended with Aliens, someday we will get an Aliens 3 ffeaturing space marines raiding space drug dealers and suddenly aliens emerge, it will tangentially reference 2 and 1 but otherwise stand alone, KINOOOO
We already had Alien III.
Is it good?
NTA but honestly I preferred Fincher's verison, even in knowing what a nightmare the production was and how he basically had a bunch of sets and little more to work with.
Ellen Ripley is barely in this and it had some weird human/alien hybrids. I guess it's neat that the characters from Aliens survive, for whoever liked that movie more.
Thanks, might give it a listen
There is no Alien 3 good version. They are all shit with a couple of good shots.
Reddit take.
I would actually pay to go see it in the theater
>doing Aliens again...
>OH MY GOD SOMETHING IS IN THE SEQUEL FROM THE PREVIOUS MOVIE! THAT MEANS THEY ARE DOING THE EXACT SAME MOVIE! AHHHH SEETHING RAGE! IT NEEDS TO BE COMPLETELY 100% DIFFERENT BUT ALSO NOT TOO DIFFERENT! ALIENS WAS TOO DIFFERENT FROM ALIEN AHHHHH!!
take it easy ok
filtered
filtered
also it's canon, cope and sneed redditors
I just use TVtropes and fan wikis for all media lore
>white man vs karen
BWC vs old roastie
>boomers that believe in ancient aliens writing ramblings
Based?
its not based at all its fricking unreadable. Like a big name poster uses all caps randomly for emphasis when he posts.
Lmao, post a screenshot.
Lol what the frick? What forum is this?
Alien Covenant dot com.
God like productions
Honest to god miss forums like this.
so frick off and go there
forums are still around
>an attempt was made
saved
>Ian Whyte
>Born in Bangor, North Wales and raised in Brighton, on the South coast of England, Ian Whyte was 7'1" tall by the time he was 17 years old. Ian always stood out from the crowd. Tall, slim and athletic, little did he know of his future career in the limelight.
god damn
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1613839/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t16
I just learned recently that my dad believes in ancient alien and icke reptilian conspiracy theories
Your dad is based and youre a failure of a son, those are all real
dad?
I'm expected to believe that human life started in Africa, then for no reason, all of the smart humans left and went to Europe where we magically turned white even though white genes are recessive
Aliens genetically engineering humans seems like the more logical alternative
Out of Africa was deboonked.
How long until they debunk the "Ancient Baby Boom" theory of life magically exploding out of unsustainably small populations
We've been genetically the same for 100k years and then all of a sudden sprung into civilization out of nowhere?
History being FAR older than we're told and humanity going through cycles seems like the more logical alternative.
Muh ancient aliens is pure well poisoning and it's worked flawlessly on 99% of normalgays
>Durrr I know nothing about Paleoanthropology so aliums or Atlantis is am logical!
What is agriculture? That was the major change.
>live in caves and as nomads for 70k years, then start growing plants and now we can all of a sudden build massive structures all over the world
Okay lol.
Mention Michigan copper to an academic and watch them froth at the mouth at the mere mention that the mainstream timeline isn't accurate.
Yes, you got it perfectly right, people get food and the people who don't need to use their time for food use it to help build society.
Michigan copper was mined in the Keweenaw Peninsula 7,000 years ago, that doesn't mess up any timelines, dipshit.
A half billion pounds over a thousand years, no one knows where it all went and all of the oldest Clovis sites are on the _east_ side of North America, but I digress.
File related and others of pumapunku is a great example (and probably the most well known) of the ancient alien well poisoning.
>t-they had time!
is a common cope, but no one is drilling and channeling mm sized holes into diorite 13,000 years ago - it's just not going to happen. They were not simultaneously stone age nomads and hut dwellers, and more advanced then people that came two thousand years later. You wouldn't even be able to do this with the drill bits you have in your garage - they're simply not hard enough, yet those without a written language did it because 'they had a lot of time on their hands'. The bullshit was hammered home so hard that simply suggesting
>maybe they were a bit more advanced what we currently think
is instantly mocked by most normalgays, because it throws everything for a loop - the exact reason it was pushed so hard and even had a fricking Cinemaphile show shill it. They were either much more advanced the xx,000 claimed years ago, or the stones are in fact much older than that and are just a relic of a lost civilization. You can not subscribe to both the official narrative, and believe they did these things themselves.
Explain this to someone, in person, and its very likely they will have nothing more to say than
>haha muh ALIUMS and MAGIC haha okay anon(:
>We've been genetically the same for 100k years
Explain races then.
In real life ''humans started from Black folk'' has been debunked for quite some time.
Really it makes perfect sense when you truly understand white supremacy. Sad that some just settle on widely accepted science being debunked. That's a kind of racism with no legs to carry it.
>human
The first species/off-shoot of modern man was recently found to be in Eastern Europe, which explains a lot.
Your dad has a mind capable of great things. You should be happy.
You are an NPC
Imagine believing pozzed science academics talking out of their ass for money
Without hesitation
But someone mentions god or supernatural and you shit yourself
Lmfao. We don't know anything about this reality yet pozzed losers like you think you know it all. Because the corrupt scientist said we are all stardust dood!
ok cool, but i never shared my own beliefs
>reddit spacing
r/conspiracies s that way young homie
Kek
Mine believes in area-51 shit, antivax shit and AI shit.
>antivax
That's based, rest is cringe. Boomers are severely mentally stunted in general. Internet access broke their small brains.
What does "AI shit" even mean? Like he's worried about being replaced by AI terminator-style, or what?
Ungrateful little shit
That's neat. Does your dad know he has a degenerate reptilian son?
Harley Quinn Ichtosis is evidence that there is something reptilian inside our species.
>no scales
>hair
How is that remotely reptilian?
>How is that remotely reptilian?
Can't help a blind man to see
frogposting is getting weird
>God is good
>Also you're going to be born like this because frick you lmao
>>God is good
God is a psy ops created by the ~~*being*~~ in the picture.
I've seen many schizo theories but this is new
What books should I look for to know more about these evil lightballs
I refuse to watch pretentious Prometheus
>Oh look this terrifying alien was literally just a meme experiment by another alien humanoid idiot.. let's explain everything and make it all boring and not scary
Frick Cameron. Anything after aliens doesn't exist imo
Also AVPR was better than any of the other alien movies
Aliens>Predator>Alien=AVPR
Rest can go in the trash, just like your reply. Seethe
>Seethe
Don't you feel silly thinking that holding an opinion differing from someone else's about a movie of all things would make them "seethe"? Sure it would be different if they were like "FRICK YOU MOTHERFRICKER I LOVE PROMETHEMEUS butthole YOU SUCK!!!" then you including "seethe" in your reply would be appropriate but otherwise it's just overuse of the word and makes you look silly
You can't seriously be admitting to thinking Aliens is the best one, right anon?
Prometheus could have been really good but they were too cautious.
Name?
How did the Engineers farm the Deacon for its blood?
Was the Deacon smarter than most ayys or were Engineers such gigachads that they could subdue an ayy no problem?
Maybe they ambushed it while it was being born but they also call it their lord so it could be intelligent. Maybe it gave them their blood so they could make us to be their cattle.
>tfw no intellectual ayy
thats interesting i heard forum babblers mentioning there was an audio leak of cut dialogue
Please explain this for someone who has no idea what the frick they are looking at
>the Engineers are dying out because they lost their ability to reproduce
>they discover a facehugger of some kind and let it impregnate one of them, the chosen one
>he gives birth to the Deacon and they use its blood to create humanity and possibly pic related
>they run out of blood, try replicating but fail and make the black goo instead
i think the blood doesn't create life necessarily but it is a catalyst that causes diversification in species and the opening scene is showing what caused the Cambrian explosion.
The black goo may be a bad batch version of it that creates evil violent lifeforms only.
wheres the source for this?
I always assumed the goo was an aliens blood, the mural in the movie shows an Engineer dragging an alien creature
It's from the script, it says the goo is the failed attempt of cloning alien blood. I'm not sure why it says failed though, I guess the goo can only mutate existing life or use it as a host while the blood can help create it.
is this the used script or the unused one. I'm currently listening to Spaihts explain his version of the movie
https://open.spotify.com/episode/21IpoRYjfXXoKAiBEpbBBG
It's the used one.
cool thanks i'll read it
https://assets.scriptslug.com/live/pdf/scripts/prometheus-2012.pdf
I feel its strongly implied the black goo has the essence of evil in it. eg it only makes killer life forms.
Yeah, I agree. The originally depicted Deacon (mural) and the later creation through black goo give off very different vibes.
i used to think it had something to do with reproductive life vs asexual life.
The Engineers are clones and human life is reproductive.
Humans have an strain of evil inside them inherent in reproductive life. That is switched on by the goo and causes the creation of killer mutants. I believe this is also related to gnostic theory.
This is maybe why the Engineer reacts so violently to Shaw because he sees her as intrinsically carrying this evil strain being a female (humans are not necessarily evil but they carry it) since he is an asexual clone. Also a possible mother of all evil analogy, pandora, echidna etc... rambling now.
Eh. I don't see how Engineers are supposed to be clones, they had the capacity to naturally reproduce at some point and also have ridiculously long life spans. As far as the goo goes, I'd rather compare it to a false Eucharist.
The Engineers lost their ability to reproduce long ago. It says so in the script.
I deduced it by the fact they have no nipples which means they have no sex organs and are a clone. Also in the script. So they have completely done away with sex. At least this applies to the new ones.
The ones in covenant come off as degenerate remnants of the original Engineers, they even have women.
They lost the ability after they found the creature that produced the Deacon and they live up to 300K years, so your cloning theory might not hold up.
they created the deacon during the time they coild still give birth.
But it stands to reason an engineer with no sex organs or even nipples was created by cloning since it wasn't born and completely lacks even the nipples a sign of female sex characteristic.
Call it evolution. 300K years is a long time. But I don't know.
You can't evolve in your life time evolution requires death and birth.
But it kinda makes sense how the xenomorph is a violent reproducer, so to speak,
The Engineers were an anti-female society, so switched to asexual cloning,
This was to defend themselves from the inherent vulnerability to contaminated sexual reproduction by whatever the Chosen one started (faulty goo causing rampant mutation) see what happened to Shaw and her husband.
Things do atrophy. Entropy is real.
They were made perfect in the script, no sex characteristics. The bits didn't drop off
They were still subject to death.
>tfw no Engineer gf
The idea that a multi-million year civilization could look so shitty and pointless was a depressing thought tbh
We never see what their civilization actually looks like. Apparently their home world is an absolute paradise
yeah that world was a rotting garden according to David
Also if it wasn't obvious enough that somethings not right about the tainted life on the planet. The bugs have skulls on them.
Might have been why David killed them, he thought they were pathetic and unworthy. They lost the ability to do the complex biological engineering
David killed a world of humanoids that the Engineers created, they weren't Engineers themselves
They were definitely a type of engineer, maybe a lower rung. The large heads in the room in the movie are depicting engineers. So there may have been a higher class of Engineer. The ones we saw were a pleb class.
>woman who never did harm to anyone is le evil
>not the giant moron who wakes up, starts chimping out and then tried to genocide everyone
Okay. Sure.
stfu you moronic c**t.
So aliens are failed atempts to make the lord? There were original intelligent aliens but all we have now are the animal ones because they were unable to replicate the blood?
The game Aliens: Fireteam Elite does a good job of presenting lore and explaining worldbuilding stuff. Having said that, Lindelof was a mistake and the movies are disappointing.
>Aliens: Fireteam Elite
Christ people actually played that piece of shit?
>tfw no Alien isolation sequel
>with engineers
This amuses me thanks OP.
It's really best you don't pay them attention though.
So the "Prometheus" engineer captured an alien who had magic life creating blood. He then dragged and nailed it to a cross (metaphorically and symbiotically) so he could drain it of blood.
No
The engineers created the liquid as a type of zombie plague, it would mutate whoever survived exposure into these creatures. David used Shaw's DNA to change the virus and create the first true xenomorphs, and what was left of her was likely turned into the first Queen Xenomorph
I mean im going by what you see in the movie and the script anon posted here
I always assumed the goo was not created and was the blood of an alien god, it felt Lovecraftian.
The Xenomorph and goo is like the shoggoth in Lovecraft, an all purpose slave organism that can be used to create anything they desire, like cities or spaceships, space suits etc.
The movie sucks and nobody watching understands. I don’t even care to think about it
>movie sucks and nobody understands it because I'm a brainlet
Isnt david just trying to fix the enigineers problem with failing to recreate the blood? He got the form right but created monsters instead of lords
How is it fair that Alien Isolation, the best Alien game and possibly best film game of all time, doesn't get a sequel?
It's easily up there with Alien.
i fricking loathe autistic agnostics and their bullshit
i used to think they were fun but not anymore
Jesus is Lord
Our lord is an ayylium
your lord is one hell of autism as well homosexual
Frickin esl loser, go post on forums in your own language
Shaw was one of the few female leads I ever liked and senile Ridley just kills her offscreen. What the frick with this franchise and killing good charactes offscreen between movies?
i know its fricking atrocious, she was the only good character in Prometheus along with David,
I dearly wanted a sequel with those two exploring the Engineer's world.
Likewise Guy Pierce was wasted with his stupid aged prosthetic makeup. Should have had him just as himself with silver hair and said he was using age prolonging drugs.
It was the studio's decision as far as we know, Ridley directed this. https://youtu.be/XeMVrnYNwus
Fassbender hard carries these movies. I watched Covenant purely because of him.
Didn't the actress refuse to come back so they had to kill her? There's a lot to be mad at senile old Ridley for but I don't think that's one of them. AFAIK they had big plans for her going to the engineer homeworld and had to rewrite heavily
probably was Charliez's fault
If an actor/actress refused to come back it 100% involves pay and shekels
Too bad because she's actually good being in the ayy universe compared to the main grill in Covenant
Now the franchise has gone full Saw/Jason/Nightmare at Elm's Street with young adult actresses
I like both actresses tbh.
The second girl was just a backup after the bnnuy girl was filming Snoy Wars
Okay.
No, it wasn't her or Ridley.
If you look at the concept art and all the scrapped stuff, you really start to get a feeling Prometheus was meant to be much bigger than the film we got.
Something even bigger than Aliens, a Star Wars style scifi epic. It could have been huge, i honestly don't understand how it was fumbled so badly.
There can be such a thing as 'too big', a story and setting that are awesome on paper but simply too huge for the medium of film, where they would be constrained by budgets and running length.
i honestly feel they were just scared to make what they really wanted. Afraid it would get rejected by audiences. Yet thats exactly what happened with their overly restrained story, that explained virtually nothing though hinted at a much more deeper story. It left audiences stumped and scratching their heads.
Because Ridley Scott briefly thought he'd stumbled upon the god code and the shit comes off like AI mated Scientology and Alien
Stories like that work better as books. Movies need to be dumb for mads appeal
Does anyone have any recommendations for such books? I'm already reading Dune series.
Book of the New Sun has similar themes of creation and genesis.
Its told in a first person narative but its filled with relgious and historical alegory.
Go back and try to talk Dan Aykroyd out of making any more Ghostbusters movies.
There are actualy people who believe the Stargate is real
It's real tbh.
Why do you think they made the show? Plausible deniability.
Why do you think they made a show about the show within the show? Even more plausible deniability.
The worst, for me, are the Atlantisgays.
>Prometheus lore
irrelevant. not canon.
>Alien lore
everything you need to know is in the first film.
>not canon
Wrong. Ridley made it himself. Cope and seethe.
And the developer of gif wants you to pronounce it "jif". He's wrong and so is old man Ridley.
You are wrong on both fronts. Jifchads run this board
>authorial intent applies to file extensions chud!!
okay.
I worked on the vfx for this movie, I dont like the film but the pictures are good
I like the film, parts of it very much, which makes me like it overall. It's definitely a classic. One of a kind. You can be proud, the VFX are amazing.
I rewatched Prometheus a few days ago
THere's so much in it that is amazing, it's just got a few messy parts but yeah like the other anon says the vfx is a++
Prometheus had the potential to be more interesting than the original Alien movie. They had a lot to work with. It's insane how badly they squandered that potential. I wonder what they'll do with the scraps for the next movie.
It'll be another monster hunting one by one. Alvarez is a competent but unimaginative director.
Ridley needs to call Jimmy and make Prometheus 2: Engineers. Let Covenant and Romulus be their own thing.
>they thought it was a space elephant
>Shaw finds the alcohol cabinet
>ENGINEER: reeeeeeeeeee
>Engineer finally discovers that their creations can into architecture, space flight and art
>monkey charges at him with an axe despite not showing any hostility
KWAB
he's a big guy
>Peak of human evolution is 7 foot tall white people with super human strength.
Tell me how's Ridley not based again?
>be born 7+ feet
>forever doomed to portray aliens and monsters
At least he has an athletic build. Most freakishly tall people are skinnyfat with terrible posture
He'll never run out of a job because Hollywood will always need tall guys portraying something
Now if he's a midge then he's fricked
they always need midgets as kids stunt doubles
>He'll never run out of a job
What if he wanted to star in a drama? Poor lad.
Just make it about buying shoes.
Sounds like THE life to me anon
>Are you Black person?
>If "yes"
>Press "sport" to play
Okay, I really have to rewatch them and go over the script(s). Not sure when I'll find the time. But yeah, they'll surely be hailed as classics in the coming years/decades.
he dinking
Maybe this is why the Engineers lost their ability to reproduce, something similar happens in Raised by Wolves: https://youtu.be/ItRiw2HwvF0?t=376
only in america can you be a professional crazy man
Shut up about america you insufferable Black person
kys you dumb frick american scum bag
i think its pretty obvious when you consider what happened to Shaw and her bf + goo. Why the Engineers would want to remove sex from their species.
They could have honestly axed half the actors in Prometheus
Shaw
David
Weyland
Vickers (Theron is always cringe but she has a 80/90s era vibe)
Rest are forgettable
do people really? I ignore everything after the first two movies. same with terminator.
>I ignore everything after the first two movies. same with terminator.
You boomers are a plague. Grow up, manchildren. Blinders won't save you.
>just keep eating the shit with me
No, I'll enjoy only the media I want to and ignore the rest, and be happy.
Bet you're seething about Barbie also.
Why would I be? I'm completley indifferent about it
based. thats the only way to do it. Same with any movie series that has outlived being good after a point
Again, this is Ridley who made it. Not some Disney hack. Same goes for the Star Wars Prequels. They are undeniably canon.
Who gives a shit? You think he planned this when he made Alien? You think even that was the original idea? It might as well be you or me who wrote it. You don't get to come back to something 40 years later and completely change everything to whatever your current senile mind tells you it should have been now that you have new shitty ideas.
Besides, Prometheus was originally a space Jesus story that Ridley wanted to make but he had to slap the Alien prequel tag on it to get asses in seats at the theatre otherwise no one would have given a shit.
"Official canon" is irrelevant when things are retconned. Look at the original Space Jockey, a gargantuan biomechanical elephantine monster. Ridley even used to say himself when asked about it "some mysteries are best left unanswered" then he changed his mind and answered it by shrinking it down and making it just a big blue dude so he could merge in his otherwise unrelated Prometheus story.
Prometheus is literally just the original draft of Alien really. It's basically an authentic prequel, you could argue its bad but its not just made up 40 years later. It doesn't change anything.
>prequel
>super high tech ships
>meanwhile the original Alien has toaster 1950s technology
mining ship vs weylands luxury science ship
Why would a minng ship have bespoke CRT monitors?
Headcanon cope
It's literally in the movies.
>Alien race had three entirely different stages in its life-cycle
>Finally, its bloodlust gone, the Alien becomes a mild, intelligent creature, capable of art and architecture, which lives a full, scholarly life of 200 years
>The Jockeys are on a misson of exploration and archeology and they are fascinated by this marvelous temple and unknown culture
>>>>It doesn't change anything
It's nothing like Prometheus you disingenous moron. And they literally retcon the biomechanical elephant enineers into much smaller boring blue dudes.
>its not just made up 40 years later
Yes it is. Prometheus should always have been it's own independant sci-fi movie and had nothing to do with the Alien story. Space Jockeys are not Engineers and they ram an alien in right at the end just so they could justify the marketing of "prequel"
If it was its own franchise i bet it would have done better and been more respected but producers would want the alien branding. Sad.
Agreed. Ridley could have went full blue man space Jesus and the black goo would have been a cool unique mystery in and of itself, and the sequel would have been as intended instead of being forced to do another shitty attempt at Alien movie to get people to go and see it after everyone b***hed there was no Alien in the first one.
The movie kind of implies the engineers abducted Jesus and taught him and sent him back to Earth. The map they find is from 2000 years ago. And the carbon date on the engineer corpse is dated at 2000 years. Implying the engis were heading to Earth over revenge for Jesus.
>The movie kind of implies the engineers abducted Jesus and taught him and sent him back to Earth
Shit thats almost literally book of the new sun
>some mysteries are best left unanswered
Basically this. Serialized fiction was a mistake. A writer should tell the story and then walk the frick away. Too bad there's money to be made in sequels/prequels.
The Space Jock origin can't be left unexplained but the alien is central to the story.
Ok this is the timeline of the Engineers civilisation.
Glorious Golden age of Ancient Greek style enlightenment and science research.
A genius Engineer (or was he a sacrificial guinea pig?) Creates the first Deacon, their new lord.
Hallelujah the Engineers discover religion and a new source of life in its blood.
The religious Engineers part ways with the
Engineers to create life around the universe, while the Engineers tend to their Eden.
Much later the Religious break away Engineers run out of blood from their god.
They create a very dangerous synthetic version and begin stockpiling it for some unknown reason.
At some point there is an accident in their base, perhaps an out of control alien Deacon they created. The entire Engineer base dies except for one survivor.
Weyland discovers it
>They create a very dangerous synthetic version and begin stockpiling it for some unknown reason.
So the fakr blood and hence the aliens we see are basically nephilim?
the script is nuts
>one of the crew turns into a cute friendly alien
Such a fricking wasted potential
Lindelof is a shit writer and Ridley is a pretentious hack
The Engineers and the Space Jockey can still coexist. The Space Jockey is too big to be an Engineer.
I like the theory that the female engineers are the actual giants of the engineer species which is why the male engineers we see aren't the same size as the engineer from the first alien. And their culture could have a custom where they keep the males and females on seperate planets and only travel to and from for mating. The engineer planet we see in covenant might not be pure engineer because they have whites in their eyes unlike the pure breed from prometheus which is solid black eyes, but they are all male. Also heard that maybe their obsession with the black pathogen could be because they lost their ability to procreate so relied on a xenomorph like being to keep the species going.
But that would miss the point. Immortatilty is the ultimate sin to the engineers and an insult to existence they are a culture built on sacrifice. The opening of Prometheus is an engi breaking himself down with the pathogen to make way for life on an earth like planet. From his death comes life. They need Guy to be both young and old to capture that ambition and his hunger for life and it works really well with the flashbacks. That's why the Engi rages so hard when david asks him.
Literally my dad. Was always into ancient aliens and he loved Prometheus.
Boomers rather believe in insane Alien theories, lizard people, flat earth, before even daring to criticize israeli people.
You just know
Post more BigDave posts. Does anyone know what's that thing in his profile picture?
>he doesn't know about the ancient aliens
You'll be surprised when they present themselves again in a few years, like the dumb fool you are.