> TV better than Shakespeare
Is he right?
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> TV better than Shakespeare
> TV better than Shakespeare
Is he right?
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a niggress twerking her fat sheboon ass on tiktok has more direct impact on 99% of the current world population than breaking reddit, tv is an obsolete boomer device, sorry my chud
>I don't read much literary fiction
>so these popular shows impacted me more than the literary classics I didn't read
>also I'll comment of literature as a artform, even thought I just admitted to not reading it.
Hanania is always wrong, in principle, just by being Richard Hanania. Even if he says something I happen to agree with.
I just don't understand how someone can write that kind of message with a straight face.
It's an appeal to emotion, he doesn't have to have a straight face while typing it out. It's how he feels, so there really isn't any argument to be had. The only issue here is him baiting people into thinking they might get a conversation out of him. It's just rude on his part.
Modern schools pushes ignorance by teaching pupils only English and Math matter.
This creates great autist computers, but with the same culture of a trailer trash watching kardashians on tv.
Hanania trolls people in order to get counter responses. He admits to doing this all the time. Tyler Cower started this. It's "strausian" i.e trolling to get a discussion started.
Is there anything in Strauss that justifies this autism
>merely pretending to be moronic.
I lul'd.
>this media I don't enjoy does not impact me as much as media I do
What a big brain take
Something i noticed is alot of famous literature is depressing and im wondering why? Isn't that lack of skill in itself, not being able to write something fun once in a while. Snobby lits critics thumb their nose at henre fiction but damn is at least better than "Sad People Being Sad for 400 Pages" by Some French butthole.
I don't believe you've read any famous literature. Most of the western canon is genuinely entertaining
Can't have light without darkness. Not conceptually, but because the world is full of darkness. Any story that isn't full of it isn't a real story. But one that's only darkness isn't a real story either.
Like, I read this story about a bunch of knights helping defend a town by sallying out only to retreat, but as they retreat they realize the enemies outsmarted them and they've been surrounded. For a while they try to fight their way out, but as they're slaughtered they can no longer deny that their situation is hopeless, that they're doomed, and that nothing good will come of their deaths. So in this moment of absolute darkness, they start singing a battle hymn and all die fighting to the end.
Or, I'm reading this other story about some vikings having a feast telling stories, and they're having an argument over if long or short hair is better. They agree that short is better for battle, and one mentions that his life was saved by his long hair. So he goes on to describe how he was part of a losing battle where his entire family was killed and his father's last moment was to throw himself into the sea with all their family treasure, and as his story begins the survivors are all being lined up for execution. Long story short, he manages to convince one man to hold his hair away from his neck while the executioner chops his head off, and contrives to throw that guy into the path of the axe as it falls, then the storyteller and the handful of other remaining survivors overpower the executioner and kill him.
The leader of the enemy army is standing there watching this, and as he sees it happen, them killing his executioner, he thinks what just happened was so fricking funny, he decides to let them all go.
Lesson is, just because shit sucks doesn't mean you have to be a little crybaby b***h about it.
What are those stories?
First third and last third are absolute kino. A lot of the middle is pretty boring, he spends all his time at his farm wrangling his family. But the mid still has some fricking funny stories, like the one where he has to kill two berserkers because his daughter flirted with them, or the one where he recognizes a stranger as someone he used to know by another name and the guy tells him in confidence that he had to abandon his old identity after someone stabbed him in the ass with a spear, and then wrote a bunch of songs about it, and then after he recovered from the ass-stabbing the songs had gotten so popular that even after he killed several bards they didn't stop singing them, so he had to flee.
Book is absolute kino, it's just nonstop moments, like, he has a christian priest with him from Denmark, who is going north to trade himself into slavery to take the place of ANOTHER priest, which he's doing to atone for his sins, so he takes this priest to the 'ting' to give him to the slavers. But while they're there, an old norse priest is arranging a ceremony for the infertile women to grant them fertility, and the priest decides to go up there to stop them with the power of christ. And he manages to scare the old norse priest with his home-made cross so badly that the old priest falls off the rock he was standing on and dies. So then the women get extremely angry, and some viking warrior comes over and asks 'wtf is this racket women?' So they tell him, and the guy is just like, well, the old holy man is dead. so I guess we'll use this priest instead. so he flings him up on the rock and tells him to start using his godly powers to make these women fertile. So to not get killed he does his best and then everyone just carries on. Whole thing is just nonstop stories like these.
Sounds very silly and enjoyable. Thanks anon.
Tragedy seems to be more relatable to modern audiences in general and not just because most of the classic comedies don't translate well. The tragedy of the human condition is more universal than the comedy of everyday life.
Notes from the Underground and Don Quixote are both sincerely funny
not a lack of skill. it’s a modern phenomenon that you need to be happy all the time
"literature" = sad sack critics and professors think it's "deep"
I think Sopranos is better than Romeo and Juliet but that's like saying I think cars are better than bicycles. It's a very silly comparison in a conversation that isn't worth having unless you're just fricking around with a friend.
>I think literature itself is a dated art form
haha what
The television makes people dumb and malleable that's why they call it tell a vision programming
>TV bad
>posts anime
>can't say getting shot is bad without being shot
>food analogy
>americans think bullets are food
poetry
>listening to shows on the radio
I still listen to Boston Blackie and Johnny Dollar. It's not high art but it's better than most Hollywood slop from the last decade.
Television is garbage, I only put it on when I'm doing something else, it's not worth actually paying attention to.
If you want to watch something watch a movie.
I don't have the slightest idea who tf is this homosexual and it will stay that way
He's a gay pornstar.
While he did probably film it, having gaysex with William F Buckley on a yacht does not make Ross Douthat a gay porn star.
>reddit call saul
Just kill us now, humanity is beyond saving.
Elites were smarter and more creative in 1600 because they didn't waste their youth on general knowledge. Mass education has been a nightmare for human ingenuity.
Impressive. That take is worse than anything a regular Cinemaphile shitposter could come up with.
Modern literature
Milk and Honey has a higher average rating on goodreads than The Odyssey.
What do you call that rainbow puke background? I see that design on so many modern books.
Anybody read some Shakespeare as an adult? I did the Merchant of Venice and Macbeth in school, I really liked Macbeth as the years went by but i think that's becuase I was forced to read into the depth
Troilus and Cressida is my favorite but yeah Merchant of Venice is great. I tend to enjoy the comedies more these days tbh
Although I haven't read one of his plays in a year or so
Spoken like a true brain dead zoomer. He almost sounds proud of generic mass produced content and his obvious lack of capacity to read and imagine stuff. Outstanding.
Hananahia is literally a psycho with dead eyes.
I don’t think tv and movies are necessarily better or worse than Shakespeare but I think they can be considered on the same artistic/intellectual plane
like Romeo and Juliet vs West Side Story which are both adaptations of the “lovers on opposing sides” story and to remove the storytelling variable since they’re the same story. It’s an impossible argument to say one is objectively better than the other. Romeo and Juliet has more beautiful prose but it is a different medium entirely. The music and dance numbers in West Side Story are comparatively iconic
Anyone who says one is definitely better than the other isn’t accounting for personal taste. Or autistic Cinemaphileers who hey to stake their “intellect” by saying that the plays are better “because they just are, ok?!?!”
High culture is dead. God is dead. Society, the economy, and all of human life is optimized to increase global capital, not create art. The best art surprise, surprise, was made when people still had a higher purpose. Nothing kills art more than atheism. This is why racists make the best art now. They actually believe something with a passion.
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disregard everything i that entire picture except for the last sentence in that picture. Books are cool but film,tv, and videos when done right can be just as if not more engaging than books
The written word conveys meaning in a way visual images cannot. If developmental specialist are right and language acquisition is the beginning of human consciousness, literature acts more directly on consciousness than television or film. If you find images (sub-conscious) more engaging than words (conscious) maybe that's just your preference or maybe it's a sign of being less human.
Television is the mind killer, it is brainwashing being beamed directly into your skull. When you are watching tv you aren't thinking, you are doing nothing but mindlessly absorbing random colors and sounds. It requires no active participation on your part.
Because of reasons I once spent a year in a small apartment with no other choices to pass the time except watch television. By the end of the year I could physically feel myself losing intelligence. Thinking and reasoning was becoming more difficult and slower.
As soon as I got out of that situation and became able to read again my brain kicked back into its normal speed. I can't even imagine the long lasting damage tv and the internet has had on society. Whole generations raised on them never spending time outside or building worlds of imagination in their minds.
Television does not allow you to dream, it doesn't give you anything it only takes.
>If developmental specialist are right and language acquisition is the beginning of human consciousness
What a moronic notion. You can literally get brain damage that makes you unable to talk and still do your job as an engineer or whatever, you just won't be able to express yourself verbally. Language is thoughts translated into symbols, not thoughts themselves. Like, have you never fricking experienced having a thought in your head that you can't put word to? Like, how fricking stupid do you have to be? To take such rubbish seriously? When you KNOW that it HAS to be wrong just from being alive as a human being yourself? You should fricking know better. Be fricking ashamed.
Helen Keller said she wasn't conscious until she learned language. Also being unable to speak doesn't mean you don't know language.
I don't give a shit what Helen Keller "said", she was a fricking blind mute.
>Also being unable to speak doesn't mean you don't know language.
Being unable to THINK WORDS means you don't know language, in fact it's more absolute than that, it means you're not even capable of grasping the concept, your brain literally cannot understand it. Like being blind, that sense is just gone.
I like how you exposed yourself as a midwit for implying that written language is somehow more tied to the concept of consciousness than the spoken word. Which both existed first in human history and is, you know, used in film/tv
Issac Newton devoted half of his life to writing the Philosophiae Naturalis Principia Mathematica and the other half devoted to eschatology.
>This most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent Being. [...] This Being governs all things, not as the soul of the world, but as Lord over all; and on account of his dominion he is wont to be called "Lord God" παντοκρατωρ [pantokratōr], or "Universal Ruler". [...] The Supreme God is a Being eternal, infinite, [and] absolutely perfect.
>Opposition to godliness is atheism in profession and idolatry in practice. Atheism is so senseless and odious to mankind that it never had many professors
I don't watch much TV outside of Seinfeld or Frasier reruns. I love reading, but I only read science fiction, fantasy, ya, etc. I used Spark Notes to get through the classics when I was assigned them in high school because life is too short to not enjoy myself. I'm a pleb and I love it
>revan
>A tier
stopped reading there
I wonder why does he want us to think that tv is better than Shakespeare.
Pic unrelated
I think at the end of the day it's just that film attracts bad writers, in a similar way to how video games attract bad developers
You read a Jane Austen novel and you think that it has some intrinsic beauty that could never be captured by film, but then Clueless comes along and pull it off perfectly. Of course not all of the cannon is so directly adaptable to film. Film can be well written, it just usually is not
>in a similar way to how video games attract bad developers
If only. Ironically, video game programmers are traditionally way more competent than programmers are on average, certainly have a better grasp of computer graphics (which mostly means linar algebra and discrete analysis), know more about hardware, and usually know more about program architecture and scalability.
The truly bad developers nowadays are, and that's what's incredibly scary, the "security experts" who do network shit, including online, and mostly for big corporations.
Can any Cinemaphilegays confirm or deny the meme that Shakespeare was considered trash in his time?
I’ve always loved reading but the prose of that time period makes me want to gouge my eyes out
Yes he was so trash and unpopular that he could afford building a giant fricking theatre where anyone who mattered attended to watch his plays. Are you stupid?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Greene_(dramatist)
worth noting he's from Norwich
The older medium will always be superior just by sheer variety, amount, and influence
After that point, it's just taste and exposure
There are text adventures I'll remember for the rest of my life. But it's an art form that's been dead for 30 years.
It's just a different presentation of written word. Nothing will ever supplant it, sure the dumb masses don't read books as much. But writing is the greatest technological advancement in human history. We would be nowhere without it, it's not going away anytime soon and will always be the most superior form of entertainment. Simply because movies/tv shows don't have the time to build worlds like a book can, they can't inform you of a characters inner thoughts without it being weird. It's the difference between a wading pool and an olympic diving pool. Both will cool you off and both can be fun but the the depths of tv can never reach the same depths of writing.
I know its bait, but TV is the medium of delivery and different than theatre
That being said, theatre as a medium is over rated by psueds and Shakespeare was essentially day time soap operas for a time/place without such a thing, this makes his work important to western cannon for its influence on things such as modern television
>literally who soiboi homosexual on twitter has most moronic opinion possible
imagine my shock
lol better call Saul. Hannaia is a dead eyed midwit
Most of the classics aren't very good, and people pretend to read them or like them because they like how they think it makes them look
Most of the classics are very good, and people pretend they aren't because they feel shamed that they don't have the mental capacity or attention spans to read them. It's not their fault, it's just the detrimental effects of social media and the internet.
This homosexual wrote two books
you can't make this shit up
Imagine being so ignorant.
No he's fricking not, everything he says is idiotic garbage, but you knew that and posted it anyways as ragebait.
I thought it was funny, you don’t have to get angry
>Implying that the world will still exist a century from now
Why wouldn't it
You're confusing the world with civilization.