Since I can't get a straight fricking answer on what this shit is actually about, (which makes me imagine the worst), I'll just ask if it's actually worth my time.
I understand that it's surreal and has unanswered questions and shit, which I don't necessarily mind, but does it have any point or value, or is it just Lynch jerking himself off at the audience's expense, (wouldn't be the first time).
Unless you can bottom line it for me, (I don't care about spoilers), but tell me what's so great about it or why it's worth watching. Either what happens that I should care about, or what's so good about it thematically in the final equation or whatever.
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Lynched.
it has true detective s01 like menacing atmosphere plus quirky characters in juxtaposition
the problem is that after the reveal of the whodunnit the quality drops like a stone into soap territory and it's not really worth watching through the rest no matter what homosexuals like claim
>quirky characters
What? They aren't "quirky", they're all just identical trash
Frick off
>log lady
>nadine
>not quirky
you made me reply congrats
I hate your soul. I hope when you go to hell you will have to watch Inland Empire for all eternity.
David watched all of Season 2, every minute, before making The Return. Things that happen are important.
>what this shit is actually about
Advertising smoking. That's all it is, it isn't about anything else. It is just an advertisement. Stop spamming this filth
>I understand that it's surreal
What? No, it fricking isn't
It's the dad in devil form who murdered the daughter.
The characters struggle to accept the surreal and supernatural just like the audience. It explores the dark side of society in a seemingly utopian small town.
>casually spoils it
Uhh anon, I don't think OP has actually seen it
spoilers are a spook
why don't you just try fricking watching something as if refreshing these threads over and over again is somehow a better use of your time
actually don't watch it if you think that's such a chore just keep scrolling don't worry
Watch hours of what I already suspect is annoying dogshit from what I've already seen? I've giving it a final chance, just by asking for someone to give me some reason to even bother.
It’s worth it for Kyle McLaughlin and Jack Nance alone, not to mention Lynch’s cameos and David Duchovny as a troony, and Lara Flynn Boyle in her prime.
And Peggy Lipton
And Heather Graham
For me it's Audrey
holy shit this
>writes a fricking blog post b***hing and whining that nobody has convinced him, at least not to his own satisfaction, that he should watch a TV show, instead of either actually watching the fricking pilot or just shutting the frick up and moving on with his life
OP chugs so many greasy wieners
holy shit you just can't sucking dicks can you?
It's universally beloved and was a cultural phenomenon.
some parts feel dated and the middle of S2 is pretty boring and skippable, but it is a good show all in all
>It's universally beloved and was a cultural phenomenon.
In your imagination maybe. Nobody watched it back then and nobody remembers it even as a joke like people remember Dallas.
>it is a good show all in all
It is not a show. It is an advertisement
>The characters and atmosphere are why twin peaks is worth watching
The characters are all the same and terrible. And the "atmosphere" is shit.
So what you're saying is it isn't worth existing
>Nobody watched it back then
It's true. You not like a fact about some trash you're obsessed with won't make it untrue. It was not in any way a "cultural phenomenon", it was something nobody watched and barely anyone has ever heard of
Dumb frick zoomer
>You not like a fact
herro mr chinese man
Twin Peaks was fricking huge when it came out. My parents told me separately how their families and friends would get together to watch every episode together. It had crazy word of mouth, everybody was talking about it, similar to Who Shot J.R? from Dallas.
I'm so old I was a teenager back in 1990. Everybody watched Twin Peaks. It was THE show on television.
second
The pilot episode had 21.7% of all households in America watching it. The entire first season had over 10% of all American households with a TV watching each episode. It's easy ad frick to Google the Nielsen ratings. You are legitimately moronic as frick.
You're trying too hard.
>Nobody watched it back then
No level of revisionism is going to actually change reality. Also, you're gay and moronic. Kindly frick off to whatever hole you crawled from.
>Nobody watched it back then
The characters and atmosphere are why twin peaks is worth watching. And the mythology too, if you're into spooky shenanigans.
>I'll just ask if it's actually worth my time.
Watch the episodes marked with a star. Then move onto Fire Walk With Me and Series 3.
Why should anyone give a shit if you watch it or not? The 'bottom line' is that you're a demanding little homosexual.
I’ve never watched it but am a big According to Jim fan and little bro stoned Belushi is in Twin Peaks and I’ve considered checking it out
Who the frick cares?
i could have saved her bros
god she is so gorgeous... every one pales in comparison to her beauty. i would be straight for her
>be me
>be Gen X
>was there when this shit came out
>didn't know anything about it
>saw Laura Palmer pic around and music
>nothing I saw gave me any real information or reason to watch it
>asked people about it
>either didn't know anything or couldn't tell me the first thing about it especially if they said it was good
>occasionally would see references to it over my lifespan and ask people
>get same annoying non-answers
>see reference to it the other day
>be 2024
>realise I can ask ChatGPT for qrd
>still doesn't tell me shit, just broad plot points
>come to Cinemaphile
>post this thread
>be you
>imagine you be me
>imagine you've never seen it
>do you see any compelling reason ITT to watch it?
>do you see anyone telling you anything to pique your interest?
I've noticed this phenomenon with particular shows, books, and movies. It's fricking just weird. When I do watch them, like it hate it, I can explain them just fine to anyone asking what its about and why it's good or sucks. It's as if people didn't actually watch/understand and are just faking it or peuds pretending it was good or some shit.
I can tell you why you should watch AND other film, spoil the good part, or say which parts I liked. What's the real problem here fellas? I challenge you to prove me wrong.
I challenge you to stop pretending you're someone your parents age, homosexual.
Exactly what I'm talking about, you've got nothing have you? Pretty much what a I thought.
i dont know why you're making this post. i already replied to you in
make up your mind if that is appealing to you or not but if you claim from here on out you havent been given information you're baiting.
Because it still doesn't really tell me that much. I could apply that to a season of Spongebob fricking Squarepants just as easily, while failing to mention anything about the face he's a fricking sponge who lives in a pineapple under the sea, and is friends with a squirrel from Texas.
>I could apply that to a season of Spongebob fricking Squarepants just as easily
okay you're baiting goodbye
>I asked for a QRD and only got broad plot points
Are you special?
It's largely a mood piece. Certain scenes are cool. Certain scenes are funny. It has a fun cast of characters who you enjoy spending time with as an audience member. The thrust of the "plot" or the "meaning" behind it all, is almost not the point.
That said the plot is about a murder investigation that spirals out of control when the characters find out what they thought was a regular murder, was just a smaller piece in a larger supernatural conflict, and there are ancient demonic forces at play, and shit gets weird.
You don't deserve to watch it.
Its not about anything in particular aside from the first season being about abuse trauma
It's about being human and how we're all vessels for the eternal battle between good and evil manifested in different ways.
Only good thing about it was warping Japs view of America to create some interesting settings for a handful of Video Games.
Outside of that Lynch is a hack and only pretentious people pretend it wasn't just the Lost of its time.
other than Deadly Premonition and maybe Persona, what are the other ones?
Your time isn't worth shit.
BRO, WHAT IF..WE WERE THE ONES THAT KILLED LARA PALMER. LIKE WE WERE ALL MURDERERS..WHOA
Wholesome old timey America being corrupted by evil forces, or something.
There's a supernatural battle between good spirits and bad spirits. Laura Palmer has some symbolically important position in the universe, where she represents purity, or something. The bad guys tried to corrupt her until they couldn't anymore, and then they killed her.
>Wholesome old timey America
Shalom, my friend
literally don't know what you're insinuating.
>NOOOOOOOOOO ITS ACTUALLY NOT EXPLAINED THE SHOWS CAN'T BE EXPLAINED YOU JUST HAVE TO UHHHH JUST "FEEL" THE SHOW AND ITS LIKE A DREAM YOU CANT EXPLAIN IT NOOOO
god his videos are so good, i dont know why he has not made videos on blue velvet or lost highway since those movies are easy to explain
This. Twin Perfect already dissected everything that can be dissected in the universe of Twin Peaks; it is a meta show about TV itself.
Also, every single work by Lynch is a linear story with clear meaning. Nothing is random or abstract for the sake of being abstract.
Absolutely untrue. Lynch is a stylist above all else and always has been. There's no "deeper meaning" to most of his shit, it's just a fun way to tell a story, and he's said as much
youre a fricking gay moron with a pedantic approach to art
He's not going to read your posts, you know? No need to rim his hairy butthole.
>a girl is killed in the most comfy place in the north america
>fbi detective is dispatched to investigate
>town is full of interesting characters
>murder is linked to a serial killer
>fbi detective realizes there is a supernatural force in play and not just the regular murderer
it is 100% worth your time. all of first season and first half of second season are as good as it gets. second part of 2nd season is hit or miss, but it doesnt last very long and it doesnt ruin the rest of the show for you
fire, walk with me movie is not that great. i watched it and lost all interest to continue with season 3 that was released recently, so i cant comment on it. but ihighly recommend s1 and s2
>fire, walk with me movie is not that great.
That's a real shame you don't like it. It's one of my favorite Lynch films, it's his scariest but also saddest work. Season 3 is aesthetically very different, but it does rely heavily on the themes introduced in FWWM.
>fire, walk with me movie is not that great
Incorrect. One of the best horror films ever made.
Wrong attitude, if you watch it you won't get anything out of it.
here is what its about
So the aliens are the Goold?
You won't like it. Don't worry about it. Stick to M*A*S*H.
don't bother watching, OP. you're too much of a homosexual.
Meta narrative wrapped into supernatural wrapped into small town murder mystery
A lot of it is also David Lynch riffing on television. He's both celebrating, and poking fun at soap operas, mysteries, and police procedurals.
What if someone made a soap opera and took it very seriously. That's Twin Peaks.
>Angelo, that's Twin Peaks.
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It's literally about a murder mystery in a small town.
With sueprnatural elements.
Just finished season 3, and this thought is breaking my brain:
are we shown various timelines in different episodes? Specifically I am wondering about the Double R scenes. There is a glitch when Bing euns in calling for Billy. There is also Bobby saying that they got the information Major Briggs left *that day* when we know at least one whole day has passed since then. Which leads me to wonder: are we seeing different possible realities? Is the crazy night in the diner with the shooting and he vomiting girl just one timeline, whereas the quiet night in the diner is a different one? Is the scenario where Norma agrees to dinner with the franchise guy a different timeline from the one where she buys him out and ends up with Ed?
I haven't seen this theory anywhere, trying to puzzle it out.
There was some fan speculation that the Audrey scenes were in a different universe somehow.
This seems like wishful thinking to me: Audrey's Dance + her mirror scene seem like confirmation that she is either nuts or in a lodge
Can you explain? Is the "golden world" the world of Dougie & the "noir world" the one of Bad Cooper? Are there characters who are in both worlds?
I did notice that it is mostly night when Bad Cooper is driving, and then obviously when Cooper & Laura are driving.
It is the only work in the DLCU where a character is able to cross between "the two worlds".
the golden world and the noir world are separate
the 119 girl's house in the golden world is a mirror copy of the palmer house in the noir world
I tried to see it but couldn't stand the second season. I don't know who killed the broad just that she worked as a prostitute and there are some drug dealers in the town or something
the last episode is worth it (as a double bill together with the movie), just skip the soap opera episodes
David even solved "the owls are not what they seem" but you plebs can't suss it out.
splain
Owls are frogmoths in disguise.
>Owls are frogmoths in disguise.
Your thinking of transformers.
There's two "owls", upside down and rightside up. They're the one who's doing it. They're not owls at all. They're ants. Judy. They're the two worlds. The sound from the hotel is heard when the symbol turns over in the cave.
Judy is an electrical transformer.
There is no transformer there, that is high voltage that will be stepped down at a station. It's just a tower that holds uninsulated wires.
Fine, Judy is an electrical tower.
Or maybe all electrical towers.
Obviously Lodge travellers such as Cooper in 18 are owls. Duh
How's Annie?
I swear this show is cursed. My last 3 relationships have ended right when we're near the end of season 2. I still don't know how it ends.
I'm not entirely convinced all of Lynch works aren't magical workings, somehow, so maybe it quite literally is cursed.
That's what drove Michael Anderson nuts. He's convinced Lynch was doing weird devil shit.
Watching twin peaks with your partner is such an odd phenomenon. I don't know anyone that watched twin peaks by themselves. I myself was introduced to it by my ex, we broke up while long distance before we got to season 3 but we decided to watch it together anyways sort of and just text our reactions. There's a finality to season 3 that really fricked me with me, finishing twin peaks at the same time i ended a 5 year relationship left me feeling empty for days.
>I still don't know how it ends.
Season two or show in general? Because the show doesn't end
the father got molested by bob
bob then possessed him to rape laura for years and eventually murder her
p sure Laura chose death over possession
Imagine if it had all been about 420 instead of 430.
XD
>is it just Lynch jerking himself off at the audience's expense
it is
Twin Peaks is comfy at times but the story and characters are utter trash
Judy is the ant with a bucket on its head, poops people out its butthole like the painting.
Kyle acting moronic for 15 hours was peak TV
It was so funny watching people get more mind broken by this as the series went on. Bravo Lynch
Just fricking watch it, homosexual
Just fast forward through the second half of S2 morons, how hard is it
wow im actually watching this now and there's a thread here, why does Cinemaphile always talk to me about my interests
It's actually really good.
I won't bore you with why, because there's 100 posts already (probably arguing with each other), so I'll spare you more, but just trust people.
I mean maybe you won't like it, but it's really hypnotic and pulls you in.
I can't even explain if I tried. Just watch it
It isn't hard to explain. It's a murder mystery in a small town with supernatural elements.
For fricks sake.
Yeah but that's not an explanation, it's just a description
Any explanation would have to include massive spoilers, so not really a good way to persuade someone to wath the series imo.
Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's father. Can't watch Star Wars now.
DAMMIT YOU FRICKER
Also is there season 4 in the making? I've read so last year on reddit or so
I strongly doubt it. I don't think Lynch is gonna do another show or film at all, he's just gonna continue painting until he passes, at most maybe make a short film. I'd like to see him make more kino but there is a sense of finality that is all over The Return. Aesthetically it feels like the conclusion of his entire career, and even a raw filmmaking level he got the majority of his long term collaborators together for a final project, many of them have died since then. The Return feels like a farewell. I don't think there will be more Lynchkino, least of all a fourth season of Twin Peaks.
I don't value your time at all. Do what you want.
lemme tell you what twin peaks is about. it's about how meaning is an abstract construct of language and that your own reality only exists in your mind and there is nothing concrete that you can actually point to or anchor that someone else couldn't destroy when looking at exactly the same thing. watch it and check out fire walk with me. i don't know what these other guys are talking about Shelly forever.
literally lynched
he has never given an explanation for any of his shit
there are reddit blogs and shit on what mulholland drive and twin peaks etc are about, but they are just a bunch of virgins who have never been told they are correct by Lynch
It's redditor trash for pseuds.