The movie hasn't come out in my country yet, is he really that bad?
People have said he's an annoying talking animal sidekick with none of the good points from other Disney animal sidekicks. Considering this movie is not considered good I'd imagine the goat doesn't help.
I know right or how Muslims hate us in Islamic countries and openly kill us. I do see a lot of hate for Christians in the USA by my LGBT peeps though which is weird
Right but in América people demonize the shit out of Christians and they don't even do none so much fear mongering and shit for no reason. In Islamic countries they can openly kill us (LGBT) and women don't even have rights
6 months ago
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Yeah I spent a lot of my teens being called islamophobic for saying that same shit on various sites and forums
6 months ago
Anonymous
Like Muslims are whatever people can practice their religion whatever but the way people here paint Christians it's like they should be directing it at the Islamic extremists
6 months ago
Anonymous
>islamic countries openly kill LGBT >women don't have rights
the frick do you think the conservative endgame is, dumbass?
6 months ago
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Yeah, and you think buddying with the ones who GOT their wish is supposed to help?
looks like the goat from hunchback except way shittier. barely even a goat anymore. baby goats dont even look like this. this thing is such a blatant marketing/merchandise addition it's embarassing. i mean frick, the goat from hunchback at least referenced IRL goats. this thing has a head almost the size of its torso.
i had a goat as a kid so maybe i'm just autistic about goats.
Why do you care? You're not going to see it, are you? It's a Disney Princess film that is failing both critically and financially. With how thick the rose-colored glasses people wear when they go see Disney Princess films are, this movie must be downright terrible.
Disney's last good "funny comic relief sidekick" was Olaf. Ideally, you want your funny lil' sidekick to contribute to the plot or at LEAST the emotional journey of our main hero. You want it so if you remove them from the film, there is a big loss at best and you need to rewrite the entire story at worst.
So like, Pascal from Tangled is an example of the former. He really does add to Rapunzel's loneliness and he makes it so she isn't awkwardly talking to herself, but instead to a living thing. It allows Rapunzel to voice her thoughts to the audience and some comedic back-and-forth bits. Bruni from Frozen II literally does nothing. Any character could've filled in his minor story beats. As for the latter, something like Olaf or Timon & Pumbaa would be an example of "the story NEEDS them, these scenes are written with them in mind".
Valentino does nothing. The pig and chicken from Moana are pointless. The dog in Strange World does nothing; they could've done a lot more with Splat but he was on the right track. The living house in Encanto is really good; it actually showed some restraint to not just give Mirabel a pet talking macaw that her little cousin gives her.
>The pig and chicken from Moana are pointless.
This one was extra weird because they set up the bait and switch of the pig being her animal companion before he nopes out of the movie but then the chicken doesn't contribute anything either.
>it still managed to be a coherent film at the end
It's not, everything past sailing out is entirely disconnected from one another on both an literal level of adventure (since they did jack shit to represent any distance traveled) and on narrative level of any sort of theming.
The original concept was that they both went with Moana. The pig being mean and constantly picking on the chicken like a Ren and Stimpy kind of situation. But at the last bit of production it was considered pointless to have two animals on the boat so they removed the pig.
You got it backwards. The chicken was the butthole of the two but was changed into a dumbass after they decided the pig wouldn’t go with them. Some merchandise still has the chicken looking angry as frick.
Olaf was fine and had an emotional connection to the characters and a story reason to exist. Sven was totally pointless and obviously existed to fill the "funny little character that keeps the kids entertained" role, even though Olaf was already filling that role.
CG Disney films seem to be doing that quite a bit lately. There will be a thematic reason why the non-humanoid sidekick character exists, something that actually matches the visuals and location of our story, and then they add a random animal anyway because frick it, TOOOOOYYYS.
Olaf is a snowman in an ice fantasy, makes sense. Why do we need Sven the Reindeer? Moana has sentient water in a story about sailing that ends up having a lot of funny gags. Why do we need HeiHei the chicken? Strange World has Splat the giant cell in a story about exploring the insides of a magical turtle. Why do we need some random shaggy pet dog?
Like, frick me, they keep using Rapunzel as this blueprint and then fail to understand what the frick made that movie work. OH, THAT MOVIE HAD TWO ANIMALS, SO OURS SHOULD, TOO! No, dumb fricking Disney. Maximus wasn't just a random animal. He was a connection to the kingdom, reminded us that Flynn is an outlaw, and ended up helping to save the day in the climax.
It's been a long time since I've watched Frozen but I assumed the point of Sven was to appeal to horse girls since he's an ungulate. Kind of like Mulan's horse
Khan was basically her "Rajah the Tiger." A cool quiet animal that acted as her emotional support. He was also kind of the "straight man" that played off Mushu and Crickey.
Plus his freak out when Mulan came to grab him dressed as Ping really set the tone for her running away scene.
>Moana has sentient water in a story about sailing that ends up having a lot of funny gags. Why do we need HeiHei the chicken?
The writers themselves struggled with the character for the chicken from what I remember. Early promotional stuff and some of the toys show an earlier design where he was angrier but the writers realized it wasn't working out so were going to cut him out entirely until someone decided he'd play well as an incredibly stupid sidekick. People seem to like him a good bit which is more than I can say about Sven or any of the characters from Strange World. The pig is probably a better example of the useless toyetic animal added to the film but even then the writers had even sense not to force the character.
I found HeiHei fine. He's not much of a character, but he mercifully doesn't talk and is just there to provide some physical comedy. Olaf was more annoying.
DreamWorks DNA has been in Disney for over a decade now, sort of
Chicken Little was their attempt at trying to do a DreamWorks style film because Eisner got really offended over what Katzenberg pulled with Shrek
You can see a lot of this in Tangled's near decade long on/off production and marketing where it went from a fairy tale parody with "isekai" elements to a more straight forward Disney Renaissance film made in the 2010's and in CG
Even in its marketing those elements were still present where it seemed to be more parodic than it really was gonna turn out
Of course, the final film had these elements ironed out for the most part and films after Tangled were less "DreamWorks" but even the smallest amount of influence still carried through to this day
Very true, it came off as very DreamWorks-esque in a majority of the marketing and posters. It's what initially put me off from seeing it after having grown up watching DreamWorks. These parody style movies were no longer a novelty and were way past being obnoxious at this point. Tangled's production history has to be one of my favorites honestly. Pic rel
Buzz only did that when he was pretending to be a toy
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Anonymous
a lot of the dreamworks face thing is only in the ads
as for my spoiler, it's because it's all a facade. said character doing the smarmy face is hurting inside.
I knew this thing would be a stinker when I saw the goat before even noticing the mulatto. We've really come full circle with the point of where Disney is a mockery of itself.
He's just very generic. He's not the worst animal sidekick in the world - I'd argue just this year Disney's live action TLM's Scuttle was worse but the goat is a symptom of Wish being a generic checklist Disney cliches.
It was another shitty tertiary mascot character/comic relief, like the pig from Moana.
It's honestly not that intrusive on the movie itself, but you still definitely get the feeling of 'why does this character exist' while watching. Also the voice dichotomy isn't very funny.
Does anyone have Any sources to cartoon scenes where a character gets licked by an animal? i'm curious to see what sources can be found. if you managed to find any sources,reply to me by providing me with a link or a tv series name with an episode name,thanks!
I hate the "cutesy animal with a deep voice" trope. It's something that works for a single short joke but not when the character is there the entire movie
>Twitter hates something
Then its probably not that bad.
kek
People have said he's an annoying talking animal sidekick with none of the good points from other Disney animal sidekicks. Considering this movie is not considered good I'd imagine the goat doesn't help.
I knew conservatives weren't as evil as my fellow LGBT peeps make them out to be
Just like I know some LGBT folk aren't as evil as the returning evangelicons say.
I know right or how Muslims hate us in Islamic countries and openly kill us. I do see a lot of hate for Christians in the USA by my LGBT peeps though which is weird
I'm not a fan of the abrahamic trio in general.
Right but in América people demonize the shit out of Christians and they don't even do none so much fear mongering and shit for no reason. In Islamic countries they can openly kill us (LGBT) and women don't even have rights
Yeah I spent a lot of my teens being called islamophobic for saying that same shit on various sites and forums
Like Muslims are whatever people can practice their religion whatever but the way people here paint Christians it's like they should be directing it at the Islamic extremists
>islamic countries openly kill LGBT
>women don't have rights
the frick do you think the conservative endgame is, dumbass?
Yeah, and you think buddying with the ones who GOT their wish is supposed to help?
Lmao the gymnasitic you use to defend this garbage is really out of this world
Should've gotten Seth McFarland.
looks like the goat from hunchback except way shittier. barely even a goat anymore. baby goats dont even look like this. this thing is such a blatant marketing/merchandise addition it's embarassing. i mean frick, the goat from hunchback at least referenced IRL goats. this thing has a head almost the size of its torso.
i had a goat as a kid so maybe i'm just autistic about goats.
I feel like I heard earlier that the entire joke is just that the goat has a super deep voice
IMO he isn't much more annoying than some other Disney mascot/animals characters, but he greatly suffers from what said. He's a level below say, Olaf.
Why do you care? You're not going to see it, are you? It's a Disney Princess film that is failing both critically and financially. With how thick the rose-colored glasses people wear when they go see Disney Princess films are, this movie must be downright terrible.
Disney's last good "funny comic relief sidekick" was Olaf. Ideally, you want your funny lil' sidekick to contribute to the plot or at LEAST the emotional journey of our main hero. You want it so if you remove them from the film, there is a big loss at best and you need to rewrite the entire story at worst.
So like, Pascal from Tangled is an example of the former. He really does add to Rapunzel's loneliness and he makes it so she isn't awkwardly talking to herself, but instead to a living thing. It allows Rapunzel to voice her thoughts to the audience and some comedic back-and-forth bits. Bruni from Frozen II literally does nothing. Any character could've filled in his minor story beats. As for the latter, something like Olaf or Timon & Pumbaa would be an example of "the story NEEDS them, these scenes are written with them in mind".
Valentino does nothing. The pig and chicken from Moana are pointless. The dog in Strange World does nothing; they could've done a lot more with Splat but he was on the right track. The living house in Encanto is really good; it actually showed some restraint to not just give Mirabel a pet talking macaw that her little cousin gives her.
>The pig and chicken from Moana are pointless.
This one was extra weird because they set up the bait and switch of the pig being her animal companion before he nopes out of the movie but then the chicken doesn't contribute anything either.
Moana was changed A LOT over development that it's a miracle it still managed to be a coherent film at the end
>it still managed to be a coherent film at the end
It's not, everything past sailing out is entirely disconnected from one another on both an literal level of adventure (since they did jack shit to represent any distance traveled) and on narrative level of any sort of theming.
The original concept was that they both went with Moana. The pig being mean and constantly picking on the chicken like a Ren and Stimpy kind of situation. But at the last bit of production it was considered pointless to have two animals on the boat so they removed the pig.
You got it backwards. The chicken was the butthole of the two but was changed into a dumbass after they decided the pig wouldn’t go with them. Some merchandise still has the chicken looking angry as frick.
>Olaf
>funny
Olaf was a big pile of nothing
Sven was funnier than Olaf.
Olaf was fine and had an emotional connection to the characters and a story reason to exist. Sven was totally pointless and obviously existed to fill the "funny little character that keeps the kids entertained" role, even though Olaf was already filling that role.
CG Disney films seem to be doing that quite a bit lately. There will be a thematic reason why the non-humanoid sidekick character exists, something that actually matches the visuals and location of our story, and then they add a random animal anyway because frick it, TOOOOOYYYS.
Olaf is a snowman in an ice fantasy, makes sense. Why do we need Sven the Reindeer? Moana has sentient water in a story about sailing that ends up having a lot of funny gags. Why do we need HeiHei the chicken? Strange World has Splat the giant cell in a story about exploring the insides of a magical turtle. Why do we need some random shaggy pet dog?
Like, frick me, they keep using Rapunzel as this blueprint and then fail to understand what the frick made that movie work. OH, THAT MOVIE HAD TWO ANIMALS, SO OURS SHOULD, TOO! No, dumb fricking Disney. Maximus wasn't just a random animal. He was a connection to the kingdom, reminded us that Flynn is an outlaw, and ended up helping to save the day in the climax.
It's been a long time since I've watched Frozen but I assumed the point of Sven was to appeal to horse girls since he's an ungulate. Kind of like Mulan's horse
nah, moose are too 'ugly' for that, especially Sven whose stylized to be very goofy looking.
Did Mulan's horse even do anything? Felt like just a tool in her arsenal rather than a character.
Khan was basically her "Rajah the Tiger." A cool quiet animal that acted as her emotional support. He was also kind of the "straight man" that played off Mushu and Crickey.
Plus his freak out when Mulan came to grab him dressed as Ping really set the tone for her running away scene.
>Moana has sentient water in a story about sailing that ends up having a lot of funny gags. Why do we need HeiHei the chicken?
The writers themselves struggled with the character for the chicken from what I remember. Early promotional stuff and some of the toys show an earlier design where he was angrier but the writers realized it wasn't working out so were going to cut him out entirely until someone decided he'd play well as an incredibly stupid sidekick. People seem to like him a good bit which is more than I can say about Sven or any of the characters from Strange World. The pig is probably a better example of the useless toyetic animal added to the film but even then the writers had even sense not to force the character.
simple anon
you can't sell water
Wanna bet?
oh u
Remember when Disney was really trying to make Porgs the next big thing.
all because they couldn't get the local puffins out of their shots
I found HeiHei fine. He's not much of a character, but he mercifully doesn't talk and is just there to provide some physical comedy. Olaf was more annoying.
Imagine being an Arendelle peasant living your improvised life knowing some unnatural Snowman is living in luxury you could never dream of.
>Strange World has Splat the giant cell in a story about exploring the insides of a magical turtle
Huh.
>tfw i forgot my Twitter password so i won't be able to see all the backlash
i don't see much on twitter other than Disney spamming the new popcorn bucket that looks almost nothing like the goat in the film
Excuse me, It's a "Popcorn Vessel"
>dreamworks brow
Disney?
DreamWorks DNA has been in Disney for over a decade now, sort of
Chicken Little was their attempt at trying to do a DreamWorks style film because Eisner got really offended over what Katzenberg pulled with Shrek
You can see a lot of this in Tangled's near decade long on/off production and marketing where it went from a fairy tale parody with "isekai" elements to a more straight forward Disney Renaissance film made in the 2010's and in CG
Even in its marketing those elements were still present where it seemed to be more parodic than it really was gonna turn out
Of course, the final film had these elements ironed out for the most part and films after Tangled were less "DreamWorks" but even the smallest amount of influence still carried through to this day
Very true, it came off as very DreamWorks-esque in a majority of the marketing and posters. It's what initially put me off from seeing it after having grown up watching DreamWorks. These parody style movies were no longer a novelty and were way past being obnoxious at this point. Tangled's production history has to be one of my favorites honestly. Pic rel
Context of the pic?
Early Flynn/Eugene who was name was Bastion then. There's a few other Bastion designs that looked radically different and more Kristof-esque too.
anon buzz lightyear has been doing that brow shit
but it's more meaningful in Dreamworks
Buzz only did that when he was pretending to be a toy
a lot of the dreamworks face thing is only in the ads
as for my spoiler, it's because it's all a facade. said character doing the smarmy face is hurting inside.
you'd have to be truly disney-adult stupid to pay for this shit
Why the frick not make the popcorn thing the star character? Its far more fitting and a better shape.
Look, if they were able to determine which characters would be liked, they wouldn't have had the goat at all.
you can use Nitter
Still better than clod
They should have not been cowards and made it a Damascus goat
Hell nah. The frick is that
You may not like it, but this is what peak goat performance looks like.
Nah bruh. That shit come by my house, I'll kill it. That shit looks all kinds of fricked up. Nightmare fuel fr fr demonic looking ass b***h
Shut the frick up, idiot
Bruh. Why you all hateful and shit. Chill
Listen here you thirty something homosexual. Quit imitating morons and teens. have a nice day
I'm in my 20s bruh you stay hating
The two headed monster form Willow,
He is exactly what Donkey from Shrek was making fun of
I knew this thing would be a stinker when I saw the goat before even noticing the mulatto. We've really come full circle with the point of where Disney is a mockery of itself.
Annoying homosexual with le redditbacon ebin voice
He's just very generic. He's not the worst animal sidekick in the world - I'd argue just this year Disney's live action TLM's Scuttle was worse but the goat is a symptom of Wish being a generic checklist Disney cliches.
The goat would have been way better if he didn't talk. Just be cute and make funny faces to convey your emotions.
Esmerelda's goat has way more personality than Valentino does, without talking at all.
It was another shitty tertiary mascot character/comic relief, like the pig from Moana.
It's honestly not that intrusive on the movie itself, but you still definitely get the feeling of 'why does this character exist' while watching. Also the voice dichotomy isn't very funny.
cute
mascot bros?
Don't care. I just want more rule 63 Valentino porn.
I want to frick that goat so bad, really needs more porn.
The fart and shark jokes it made were pretty bad
Does anyone have Any sources to cartoon scenes where a character gets licked by an animal? i'm curious to see what sources can be found. if you managed to find any sources,reply to me by providing me with a link or a tv series name with an episode name,thanks!
>not that bad
That means you admit it's bad
Rupert of the anally violated goat when?
*Rule34
I hate the "cutesy animal with a deep voice" trope. It's something that works for a single short joke but not when the character is there the entire movie
why are you on twitter