Uh... what?
This was Andy's favorite film. Zurg was programmed in Toy Story 2 with the knowledge that he is Buzz Lightyear's father. Is Buzz Lightyear his own father?
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Uh... what? [spoiler]This was Andy's favorite film.
Buzz Lightyear was an actual person in the Toy Story Universe.
#LightyearDidHisMom
I can’t believe the tired joke of Zurg being like Vader is enough to make people think it’s immovable lore that Zurg be Buzz’s dad.
it was introduced as a throwaway joke in Toy Story 2, but then they made a cartoon and decided to make Lightyear "the movie that made Andy buy a Buzz Lightyear"
what else are people supposed to think?
So the ultimate conclusion we can reach is that the “canon” of the Buzz franchise was never important nor thoroughly thought out because Buzz’s role in the story of Toy Story was to be the newer, more modern action figure overshadowing old classics like Woody. Zurg being Buzz’s dad was never considered as a possible waste of Buzz lore because there was no Buzz lore and the joke was too easy to pass up.
If anything the only true mistake of the Lightyear movie was trying to tangentially link it to the “canon” of Toy Story instead of just trying to reimagine the base concepts as their own thing, because ultimately the canon doesn’t matter beyond what’s important to the immediate narrative.
>So the ultimate conclusion we can reach is that the “canon” of the Buzz franchise was never important nor thoroughly thought out
Correct: But it was still self-consistent.
This movie managed to frick over literally every single fricking element we knew about the character from how he acts to his place in the cosmos to his relationship with his arch enemy.
Literally all they took was the names. This was as much a Buzz Lightyear film as Joker was a Joker film.
I mean that's literally all we know about Zerg. It's the ONE THING the toy established and the entire joke hinges on them thinking they're not toys but the actual characters from the movie they were based on. The joke doesn't work if Zerg doesn't think he's the actual Zerg because then who the frick does he think he is?
And if the stuff established in Toy Story doesn't matter then why the frick won't you shut up about this being the movie Andy watched? If it is then it should line up with the shit we actually know about, right? That's why Andy wants him to go on space adventures? Except oh no the whole movie is everyone telling him "Don't go on space adventures space adventures awful" so it now doesn't even line up with what Buzz said.
Nobody asked for a Buzz Lightyear movie already and is some crazy fricker out there did then somehow even with the movie released they still didn't get it.
But outside of Star Command that's all we know of him.
And in Star Command they play the “ I’m your father” thing as a cheap joke he uses for a distraction attempt
But star command isnt cannon according to pixar. (They still pissed the best toy story prohect wasnt made by them).
Star Command is the Real Ghostbusters/Beetlejuice Animated/Men in Black Animated counterpart to Lightyear according to the film's director.
That's exactly what I thought. Except my example was Mighty Ducks, because of how absolutely different that cartoon was from the movie.
More like Godzilla the Series
>As a member of the elite Universe Protection Unit of the Space Ranger Corps, I protect the galaxy from the threat of invasion from the evil Emperor Zurg, sworn enemy of the Galactic Alliance.
-Some unrelated Lightyear
I know it's a nitpick, but the advertising of 'the movie Andy watched' feels so at odds with the film.
It's a big ass pick
I'm calling it a nitpick because it doesn't really affect the rest of the movie.
As
points out, if it was just an in-universe modern day reboot of it it'd track better with the tone.
That aspect feels really poorly thought out, like it was something they put in at the last minute.
I would not be surprised if the script was just some unrelated project they had lying around that they just slapped the franchise name on, Diehard style.
They should've made it an in-universe 2022 reboot of the Buzz Lightyear franchise honestly, this was a very contemporary movie, and it wasn't just for the lesbians, nothing about it felt like from the 90s.
I prefer the Star Command version of it.
It’s both funny and shows how resourceful Zurg is.
the cartoon isn't canon
wait no
toy story 2 isn't canon
Who has that image of that comic book writer saying adult nerds obsess over irrelevant details?
>the your villain's history
>irrelevant
So can everyone agree that this movies is an irrrelevant waste of time?
It was a fricking Star Wars reference anon.
Zurg was just a shittier nox.
This couldn’t have been the movie Andy watched because the cgi is too advanced for that time. It looks like it was made a decade later.
disney should have never linked toystory to the buzz lightyear film. you morons will b***h about continuity about a 20 year old film
>disney should have made a movie linked to a 20 year old film
ftfy but honestly this has been a problem for decades and its only becoming more and more frequent. I'm tired of the power of nostalgia and brand recognition in today's popculture.
>Disney rapes Star Wars, deleting the EU.
>Disney rapes Toy Story, releasing a bunch of shorts, Toy Story 4 and Lightyear.
Who will they rape next!? Frank Herbert!?
you forgot that disney is letting marvel rape the x-men
Capeshit has always been raped. It doesn't matter.
>letting marvel rape the x-men
what the frick are you talking about you cretinous, disgusting little moron lmao. X-Men are Marvel characters. After how they were treated by Fox, Marvel Studios having the movie rights back as god intended is very exciting
>inb4 DIDNEY SHILL
no, but marvel characters should have their film rights owned by marvel studios
>Frank Herbert!?
Brian was well ahead of the game there.
whatever they damn well please, Disney has too much power
probably take a mythological figure and completely ruin them again
>Frank Herbert
That's Warner's job
Not trying to steer the conversation off topic or anything, but is that little pink haired girl a fricking demon or something? I keep seeing her getting posted and can't figure out why she has those little black horns on the sides of her head.
She's a mind reader who finds out her adoptive parents are secretly a spy and an assassin who aren't aware of each other's true identity, and only married each other as a cover for a secret mission the other doesn't know about.
So they're not horns, they're like... tiny witch hats?
According to the author, it's supposed to be loosely based on mini witch hats when he used that accessory on another character in a one shot the mangaka previously made. In-universe it’s just an unnamed hair accessory, there are a couple times she doesn’t have them but 99% of the time she does
The Muppets. Which is sad, because they're literally the easiest brand NOT to frick up.
>do a live, 1 hour Muppet Show special maybe once or twice a year
>Do slightly subversive, but still family friendly jokes on current topics
>have the Muppets show up in the parks to "screw up" one of the attractions as a special seasonal thing
>???
>Profit
>Frank Herbert!
His son is doing a good job already. I couldn't resist
>Disney rapes Star Wars, deleting the EU.
the EU is still just as canon as it ever was.
>chuds mad at incest representation
sneed
That’s for Lightyear 2
The Buzz and Zurg toys are based on an in-universe kid-friendly reboot of the Buzz and Zurg from this movie. Doesn't make this movie any better, but it makes sense.
Toys predate the series. Much like in real life, the series releases some point after 2 (Jessie and Bullseye are there when they unbox the movie). Regardless of if Pixar decides to treat Star Command as canon, Lightyear is retconned in as a '95 movie and Buzz is a tie-in for it. It doesn't make sense when you actually start examining it, but Pixar doesn't give a shit about consistency and is just farming for nostalgia bucks.
The entire norm of Buzz Lightyear and most sci-fi parodies is it’s a mix of Star Wars and Star Trek. When Buzz describes Zurg in the first movie, he says the plot to the first Star Wars movie. In Toy Story 2, they play a Buzz Lightyear video game and they use the Star Wars sound effect library.
I don’t understand the point of pretending “oh that was just one throwaway joke Zurg was never Buzz’s father.”
Because
made it a throwaway joke 20 years ago.
So the movie is adapting star command? It didn’t a crap job of it.
Wait, that actually IS the marketing of this movie?!
I though Cinemaphile was bullshiting this whole time and that Lightyear was just another lame "Reimagined for a new generation" thing like the Bayformer movie that people were getting overly worked up about.
It’s the beginning of the movie.
Why couldn't they just play Zurg straight? Why did they have to make him a twist villain?
He did do the nasty in the pasty.
So on the subject of "this looks nothing like a movie that could have been made in the 90's", was "the movie Andy watched" live action, and it just looks like CGI to us because Andy's world is CGI?
>This was Andy's favorite film
Just because the studio said it doesn't make it true.
Star Command already shot that down in an episode where Zurgs pulls that on Buzz but only to trick him, then taunts him about "how could he have fell for that?"
Toy Story canon has always been fricked.