It's delusional to think it will make a billion now. Even Top Gun with it's insanely good legs made another 300mil domestic. It would have to suddenly start performing exactly like that film to make up for the foreign take to reach a billion. That isn't going to happen
Quit your bullshit OP. I bet you made a bunch of threads pretending to be a mariobro with bait titles. I mean nothing wrong with box office threads, but what's with all the bizarre attempts to form fanbases and set them at each other?
Not even close to Mario. Doesn't look like it'll hit $700m like people expected for it early on. It's hovering around hitting $600~650m at the end of its run. The 3rd movie has potential to hit $1b but that isn't even guaranteed.
Spider-Man wiki: >"Marvel's Spider-Man had sold over 9 million physical and digital units worldwide by November 2018,[125] increasing to 13.2 million units by August 2019.
Spider-Man Miles Morales Wiki: >"It sold over 6.5 million units by July 2021."
the miles game sold less in a year and a half than the original game did in 2 months. idk total sales for the miles game but the original has sold about 33 million total per the wiki. Idk if it's "didn't even sell a quarter bad" but that ain't great
I shouldn't get involved since people here clearly just want to shitpost, but a lot of that has to do with the title. People are more likely to buy GAME 2 and not GAME: SUBTITLE
11 months ago
Anonymous
That's a Sony problem because they don't know how to advertise. Nintendo games don't have numbers in their titles and they do fine
I shouldn't get involved since people here clearly just want to shitpost, but a lot of that has to do with the title. People are more likely to buy GAME 2 and not GAME: SUBTITLE
The total franchise has sold 33 million, not just Spider-Man 2018
you know what I done goofed up. I see now that it says "Spider-Man SERIES" despite being on the Spider-Man 2018 wiki. Still, without total values for both games separately, I'm not sure how we would be able to compare overall sales but I'm also not sure how fair that is given the gap in release dates.
I shouldn't get involved since people here clearly just want to shitpost, but a lot of that has to do with the title. People are more likely to buy GAME 2 and not GAME: SUBTITLE
I mean, be the change or whatever. also, not that I don't believe you because that does make some sense but if that were true why wouldn't a marketing team come up with that or at least push for GAME 2: SUBTITLE?
Spider-Man wiki: >"Marvel's Spider-Man had sold over 9 million physical and digital units worldwide by November 2018,[125] increasing to 13.2 million units by August 2019.
Spider-Man Miles Morales Wiki: >"It sold over 6.5 million units by July 2021."
the miles game sold less in a year and a half than the original game did in 2 months. idk total sales for the miles game but the original has sold about 33 million total per the wiki. Idk if it's "didn't even sell a quarter bad" but that ain't great
It's it's own game. It's worse than the first one in every way but it was marketed as a completely standalone game and a ps5 launch title with a full price tag
11 months ago
Anonymous
>worse than the first one in every way
Not even close. Spider Man: Miles Morales is much more fun to play
>no minigames >no MJ missions >more stealth options >venom gives more depth to combat >more air tricks
looking at a playthrough of it right now and this miles is way less charming the spiderverse version. even peter feels more sterile leave it to insomniac to make shit boring. they lost their soul.
I disagree. I like game miles more. He feels more believable, respectful and organic to the world around him in the game. Unlike our little anomaly Across the S.T.A.L.K.E.R verse.
>REEEE STOP SAYING BAD THINGS ABOUT MY FAVORITE SLOP STOP SHITPOSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
keep seething and giving me (you)s sensitive ass NYUGGA
11 months ago
Anonymous
Now you're projecting. When did I favour any side here? you're the one participating in goy slippity slop wars. You're too defensive and sensitive for a chad. I barely said anything and you're already mindbroken.
Is the PS5 still out of stock everywhere or did they fix up their supply lines?
If so, how have sales been?
I really liked the PS2, but then I just... never had a reason to get the 3 and 4
Stock problem hasn't been a thing for well over a year at this point, you could probably walk down to a local chain store of your choosing and get one right now if you wanted
Mario and Miles Morales now how a deep rivaly.
I remember a time when Cinemaphile would find this amusing and draw art reflecting this and the anons who would fight over this were the minority.
Remember Cinemaphileku and superman? It was just good old fun, now everyone acts like a humongous homosexual.
Spiderman 2 will get delayed since they like to polish their games to the extreme, and these 4k type games need it regardless. That Mario looks like a mobile game, they could release it right now and not make a difference. Seriously the wiiu one looked better.
Not going to get anywhere close to Mario but very good for an animated sequel not aimed at small kids. Made way more than the first movie and hopefully the last movie will make more than this.
Still, some sort of scorecard is reasonable. Maybe it should just be a general, to concentrate the box office shitposting rather than all this discount variety APOLOGIZE., OH NO NO NO . WHATEVER WILL WE DO _____ BROTHERS! idiocy.
Is it just me, or are a fringe nintoddledrs and capeshitters bulk buying tickets to artificially inflate box office revenue? The Sea Org tried the same thing with Battlefield Earth, but failed miserably.
It's just you. If you look at the daily takes for both, Spiderverse does a little bit better midweek but the weekends are where Mario is much stronger. What that tells us is that Mario played really well with kids and families while Spiderverse just plays to the usual Superhero audience
Sea Org people are literal slaves with a billion year contract to a wealthy cult. Do nintoddlers and capeshitters really have that kind of time and money? emphasis on money in case that wasn't clear
Hopefully this movie continues to play in theaters the rest of the summer. With people starting vacation this week, may be interesting. Its important to see something like this succeed over the usual pop music brand animated movies. But also to btfo naysayers.
It's already successful on a 100 mil budget. Things can only go up from here. Only like 4 or 5 movies so far this year have even touched the $500 million mark.
Modern Cinemaphile is indistinguishable from Cinemaphile. They even share the same giddiness from seeing legitimate art fail and root for their childhood brand instead.
I suppose I should add "people who don't even have an understanding of the boards medium still want to share their uneducated opinion" flooding the board.
Spider-Verse isn't going to fail though, making 5x your budget is amazing
Mario is just an extreme outlier megahit that most movies aren't going to match, in reality Mario making 500 million on it's budget would have been great too.
>more people went to see shark tale than the fist one
They literally didn't, ITSV made $10 million more than Shark Tale.
>the second one will struggle to outgross the croods
It's going to pass $650m easily and has a change to get into the 700m range as the only animated film people are seeing right now. Not to mention ASTV was cheaper to make than The Croods and is already more profitable.
>Not to mention ASTV was cheaper to make than The Croods and is already more profitable.
And why should I care about the budget? The movie clearly isn't as appealing as it's made out to be
>why should I care about the budget?
Because budget impacts profit? Why do you think Disney/Pixar is losing so much money?
11 months ago
Anonymous
But why should *you and I* care about it
11 months ago
Anonymous
You don't have to care about it I guess. I care because I like seeing movies I enjoy succeed and movies I don't like fail. So that there's more of a chance I get movies I like and less of a chance I get movies I hate.
11 months ago
Anonymous
But the first one basically failed but got two sequels right away because Sony gets ESG kickbacks from it. You like more propaganda movies being made?
11 months ago
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Yes, it clearly pisses you off something fierce.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>You like more propaganda movies being made?
You dont?
Why do you want to cut kids dicks off?. What's WRONG with you?.
11 months ago
Anonymous
It makes you mad. That's all that matters. Reality bending specifically to upset you is the only goal of the universe.
11 months ago
Anonymous
So let's all get this straight. You support mutilating children because it supposedly angers internet strangers. And you support spreading the massage of mutilating children to be serviced more propaganda to watch?. So this is the power of spidergays ?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Which children, where? Don't they get HRT instead of surgery?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Holy moly, he's really going to start defending it. You're one sick son of a beeee. And here I was giving you the doubt of being a simple you know who shill.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>some
So it's not standard?
11 months ago
Anonymous
I'm in control and that's all that matters
11 months ago
Anonymous
Schizo. What do YOU control?. You're nothing more than a useful idiot throwing his cash at kids cartoons and you tjini you're in control?...
11 months ago
Anonymous
>You like more propaganda movies being made?
You dont?
11 months ago
Anonymous
But the first one didn't fail because it only had a 90 million budget. See how that works? It also got Sony their first best animated picture award. Plus Sony's animated films are usually mediocre in the box office, so it was a good return in their eyes. No wonder it got a sequel.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Anon just because $100M is a lot of money to you, personally, that doesn't mean it's a lot of money to make on the biggest superhero IP in the world with an investment of $100M
How does it being profitable dispute it's not making a lot of money for a superhero movie, for a Spider-Man movie, or for an animated movie? Especially for something that's hailed as the best example ever of all three, specifically designed to appeal to everyone?
It doesn't dispute that because that wasn't the original point. The point was that it's not going to fail. And it's not. It's the second highest grossing animated film this year. 4th highest grossing of all the films so far. Doesn't matter if you think it's not meeting a certain standard. The purpose of releasing a film is to make a profit, and it did.
>regression form the even the original movie
And now it's clear that you're either moronic or saw the new movie on a shitty cam rip instead of in theaters.
the sad part is that you think so little of your opponent that you're actually trying to falseflag as them, but you treat them like such cartoon characters that you expose yourself immediately
Nah Mario is the better movie, Spiderverse looks prettier but the plot is a mess, also it's only half a movie, for something cool looking but flawed, 500m bucks is good enough
This, I respect the art effort behind it, but everything else ranges from bad to tolerable. Mario also gets points for actually respecting the source material, however trivial it was.
It's a simple and complete plot, yes. Taht is better.
Look I don't wanna judge this shit too harshly but I have few options here, because it will be a year more before we actually get the other half of it, so far SV2 has a lot of plot holes, some jarring examples of throwing logic out of the window and even some cases of character assassination to service their plot, if you would mention SV1, well yes, that is a much better movie than Mario of course, but the second part? Nope, it's a beautifuly animated film, but the story and characters are flawed as hell
Pfff, that’s nothing budget vs box office wise
to be clear, I hate the mario movie, but that is actually impressive
classic lovable character beats cheap spider-man copy? What a surprise
The matuo movie wasn't even a movie tho
Had the same complexity as a fuvking paw patrol episode
ATSV was like three episodes of a ten episode show glued together, it didn't even have arcs or acts
Will never make to a billion lol
Certified Cinemaphile moment
It's a long climb for that. But 800 is respectable top out for an animated film
It's delusional to think it will make a billion now. Even Top Gun with it's insanely good legs made another 300mil domestic. It would have to suddenly start performing exactly like that film to make up for the foreign take to reach a billion. That isn't going to happen
>made another 300mil domestic.
Sorry "after it's third weekend"
Quit your bullshit OP. I bet you made a bunch of threads pretending to be a mariobro with bait titles. I mean nothing wrong with box office threads, but what's with all the bizarre attempts to form fanbases and set them at each other?
>Spiderverse 3rd weekend: 26mil
>Mario 3rd Weekend : 60mil
Why are you doing this OP?
If you think this movie is getting to a billion let alone 1.3 and passing Mario when it's already losing steam I don't know what to tell you
Not even close to Mario. Doesn't look like it'll hit $700m like people expected for it early on. It's hovering around hitting $600~650m at the end of its run. The 3rd movie has potential to hit $1b but that isn't even guaranteed.
I love how the Mario/Miles rivalry now extends to video games too.
Wonder looks so much better it's not even funny
The bing bing wahoo game isn't a $80 dlc that forces you to play as Miles for half the game so I'm gonna go with Mario again
they haven't given Miles his own game yet?
They did. It was underwhelming. Hence Peter is back in the Spider-Man 2 game.
They tried, it didn't do so good and didn't even sell a quarter as much as Peter's game so now he's lumped in with Peter in Spider-Man 2
Spider-Man wiki:
>"Marvel's Spider-Man had sold over 9 million physical and digital units worldwide by November 2018,[125] increasing to 13.2 million units by August 2019.
Spider-Man Miles Morales Wiki:
>"It sold over 6.5 million units by July 2021."
the miles game sold less in a year and a half than the original game did in 2 months. idk total sales for the miles game but the original has sold about 33 million total per the wiki. Idk if it's "didn't even sell a quarter bad" but that ain't great
I shouldn't get involved since people here clearly just want to shitpost, but a lot of that has to do with the title. People are more likely to buy GAME 2 and not GAME: SUBTITLE
That's a Sony problem because they don't know how to advertise. Nintendo games don't have numbers in their titles and they do fine
ok
The total franchise has sold 33 million, not just Spider-Man 2018
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/marvels-spider-man-playstation-sales-reach-33-million-as-of-may/1100-6504108/
you know what I done goofed up. I see now that it says "Spider-Man SERIES" despite being on the Spider-Man 2018 wiki. Still, without total values for both games separately, I'm not sure how we would be able to compare overall sales but I'm also not sure how fair that is given the gap in release dates.
I mean, be the change or whatever. also, not that I don't believe you because that does make some sense but if that were true why wouldn't a marketing team come up with that or at least push for GAME 2: SUBTITLE?
Reminder that the remaster of the first game is LOCKED behind buying miles game, so any sales of the ps5 version AUTOMATICALLY get attributed to miles
It's its own game? I thought it was DLC
It's it's own game. It's worse than the first one in every way but it was marketed as a completely standalone game and a ps5 launch title with a full price tag
>worse than the first one in every way
Not even close. Spider Man: Miles Morales is much more fun to play
>no minigames
>no MJ missions
>more stealth options
>venom gives more depth to combat
>more air tricks
Even boss design is better
looking at a playthrough of it right now and this miles is way less charming the spiderverse version. even peter feels more sterile leave it to insomniac to make shit boring. they lost their soul.
I disagree. I like game miles more. He feels more believable, respectful and organic to the world around him in the game. Unlike our little anomaly Across the S.T.A.L.K.E.R verse.
Will they still have c**t MJ stealth sections?
>ANYTHING I DON'T LIKE IS JUST DLC!
time for sonyCHADS to put nintendrones in their place AGAIN
Have you come from an alternate universe Cinemaphile anon?
switch sucks so no
this thread exists for that purpose b***h ass NYUGGA
>I need to confrom, I need to fit in
How chaddy of you, "NYUGGA"
>REEEE STOP SAYING BAD THINGS ABOUT MY FAVORITE SLOP STOP SHITPOSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
keep seething and giving me (you)s sensitive ass NYUGGA
Now you're projecting. When did I favour any side here? you're the one participating in goy slippity slop wars. You're too defensive and sensitive for a chad. I barely said anything and you're already mindbroken.
>company wars
Yup. you guys are some real giga-chads.
Do you honestly think a 2D Mario game won't dominate?
Wait what were those PS5 sales again? Oh that's right, nothing compared to the switch.
Is the PS5 still out of stock everywhere or did they fix up their supply lines?
If so, how have sales been?
I really liked the PS2, but then I just... never had a reason to get the 3 and 4
Stock problem hasn't been a thing for well over a year at this point, you could probably walk down to a local chain store of your choosing and get one right now if you wanted
Didn't know Eric also browsed Cinemaphile
Mario and Miles Morales now how a deep rivaly.
I remember a time when Cinemaphile would find this amusing and draw art reflecting this and the anons who would fight over this were the minority.
Remember Cinemaphileku and superman? It was just good old fun, now everyone acts like a humongous homosexual.
>Mario and Miles Morales now how a deep rivaly.
A one sided rivalry perhaps. Miles is going to make half of what Mario did.
Spiderman 2 will get delayed since they like to polish their games to the extreme, and these 4k type games need it regardless. That Mario looks like a mobile game, they could release it right now and not make a difference. Seriously the wiiu one looked better.
Not going to get anywhere close to Mario but very good for an animated sequel not aimed at small kids. Made way more than the first movie and hopefully the last movie will make more than this.
I am sick of threads about how much money movies make.
Still, some sort of scorecard is reasonable. Maybe it should just be a general, to concentrate the box office shitposting rather than all this discount variety APOLOGIZE., OH NO NO NO . WHATEVER WILL WE DO _____ BROTHERS! idiocy.
Is it just me, or are a fringe nintoddledrs and capeshitters bulk buying tickets to artificially inflate box office revenue? The Sea Org tried the same thing with Battlefield Earth, but failed miserably.
Proofs?
It's just you. If you look at the daily takes for both, Spiderverse does a little bit better midweek but the weekends are where Mario is much stronger. What that tells us is that Mario played really well with kids and families while Spiderverse just plays to the usual Superhero audience
Sea Org people are literal slaves with a billion year contract to a wealthy cult. Do nintoddlers and capeshitters really have that kind of time and money? emphasis on money in case that wasn't clear
Hopefully this movie continues to play in theaters the rest of the summer. With people starting vacation this week, may be interesting. Its important to see something like this succeed over the usual pop music brand animated movies. But also to btfo naysayers.
Ok mr sony representative man
You probably say this automatically and don't even remember what board you're on.
It's already successful on a 100 mil budget. Things can only go up from here. Only like 4 or 5 movies so far this year have even touched the $500 million mark.
/v/'s corporate worship is honestly disgusting
Modern Cinemaphile is indistinguishable from Cinemaphile. They even share the same giddiness from seeing legitimate art fail and root for their childhood brand instead.
>legitimate art
>"muh capeshit merch ad is now at an artsy 12fps that means it's art"
lmao
I suppose I should add "people who don't even have an understanding of the boards medium still want to share their uneducated opinion" flooding the board.
Spider-Verse isn't going to fail though, making 5x your budget is amazing
Mario is just an extreme outlier megahit that most movies aren't going to match, in reality Mario making 500 million on it's budget would have been great too.
lol delusional, more people went to see shark tale than the fist one, the second one will struggle to outgross the croods
>more people went to see shark tale than the fist one
They literally didn't, ITSV made $10 million more than Shark Tale.
>the second one will struggle to outgross the croods
It's going to pass $650m easily and has a change to get into the 700m range as the only animated film people are seeing right now. Not to mention ASTV was cheaper to make than The Croods and is already more profitable.
This homie doesn't know about inflation
>Not to mention ASTV was cheaper to make than The Croods and is already more profitable.
And why should I care about the budget? The movie clearly isn't as appealing as it's made out to be
>why should I care about the budget?
Because budget impacts profit? Why do you think Disney/Pixar is losing so much money?
But why should *you and I* care about it
You don't have to care about it I guess. I care because I like seeing movies I enjoy succeed and movies I don't like fail. So that there's more of a chance I get movies I like and less of a chance I get movies I hate.
But the first one basically failed but got two sequels right away because Sony gets ESG kickbacks from it. You like more propaganda movies being made?
Yes, it clearly pisses you off something fierce.
Why do you want to cut kids dicks off?. What's WRONG with you?.
It makes you mad. That's all that matters. Reality bending specifically to upset you is the only goal of the universe.
So let's all get this straight. You support mutilating children because it supposedly angers internet strangers. And you support spreading the massage of mutilating children to be serviced more propaganda to watch?. So this is the power of spidergays ?
Which children, where? Don't they get HRT instead of surgery?
Holy moly, he's really going to start defending it. You're one sick son of a beeee. And here I was giving you the doubt of being a simple you know who shill.
>some
So it's not standard?
I'm in control and that's all that matters
Schizo. What do YOU control?. You're nothing more than a useful idiot throwing his cash at kids cartoons and you tjini you're in control?...
>You like more propaganda movies being made?
You dont?
But the first one didn't fail because it only had a 90 million budget. See how that works? It also got Sony their first best animated picture award. Plus Sony's animated films are usually mediocre in the box office, so it was a good return in their eyes. No wonder it got a sequel.
Anon just because $100M is a lot of money to you, personally, that doesn't mean it's a lot of money to make on the biggest superhero IP in the world with an investment of $100M
Shark tale budget was also 75 millions while spider verse was 100 millions.
How does comparing it to other movies dispute that it was still profitable? It's going to end up as Sony's highest grossing animated movie.
How does it being profitable dispute it's not making a lot of money for a superhero movie, for a Spider-Man movie, or for an animated movie? Especially for something that's hailed as the best example ever of all three, specifically designed to appeal to everyone?
It doesn't dispute that because that wasn't the original point. The point was that it's not going to fail. And it's not. It's the second highest grossing animated film this year. 4th highest grossing of all the films so far. Doesn't matter if you think it's not meeting a certain standard. The purpose of releasing a film is to make a profit, and it did.
Dear heavens, klaus was art. Your 3D low fps gimmick is a regression from even the original movie that did it first (peanut).
>regression form the even the original movie
And now it's clear that you're either moronic or saw the new movie on a shitty cam rip instead of in theaters.
Ad-hominem. ATSV relies on gimmicks more so than art style or animation.
klaus was something else! They pushed the limits on 2D to the point it gave the illusion of 3D it must've been a hell to make.
They're Cinemaphile tourists. Came for the Mario movie. Stayed for the easy, fresh bait catchers.
The frick ye doing about it chud?. We here. We thrive. We king. We eat GOOOOD TONIGHT!. DAS RITE.
the sad part is that you think so little of your opponent that you're actually trying to falseflag as them, but you treat them like such cartoon characters that you expose yourself immediately
>700m
But it's barely scrapped by 500m on the three week mark. If it gets passed 700m that would be impressive based on it's current legs
Did you guys get tired from shitposting final fantasy?
Racist told me this movie was gonna flop. Why would they lie like that?
Seems like they were right. Aw well
Only 800,000 more to best Mario lol
>needing to best Mario in sales to be a better movie
Nah Mario is the better movie, Spiderverse looks prettier but the plot is a mess, also it's only half a movie, for something cool looking but flawed, 500m bucks is good enough
This, I respect the art effort behind it, but everything else ranges from bad to tolerable. Mario also gets points for actually respecting the source material, however trivial it was.
>Mario is the better movie
Mario barely has a plot yet you have the balls to say the Spiderverse plot is a mess?
It's a simple and complete plot, yes. Taht is better.
Look I don't wanna judge this shit too harshly but I have few options here, because it will be a year more before we actually get the other half of it, so far SV2 has a lot of plot holes, some jarring examples of throwing logic out of the window and even some cases of character assassination to service their plot, if you would mention SV1, well yes, that is a much better movie than Mario of course, but the second part? Nope, it's a beautifuly animated film, but the story and characters are flawed as hell
It's already down to 2 showings a day at my theater I guess my town hates blacks.