I didn’t read it, but I think pancakes taste pretty good when you make a little Spider-Man face on them by arranging mini chocolate chips like his mask
Yes. I was kind of worried since Invasion was kind of boring, and almost felt that way for this issue.
But the final page was worth it, the Parker joke was funny and JJJ and Ben are going to be prominent, so I look foward for what's next.
Thought it was pretty good, would have liked to see more of Peter's family but that's okay. We know Peter is gonna fight Kingpin in issue 3, I wonder if what starts that conflict will be Kingpin killing Ben and/or Jonah for starting their own newspaper?
>ordered it off of Comicbookeroo along with preordering the next 12 issues, first time I've bought comics as an adult >check to see if it's shipped >turns out they only ship when all books have arrived
I wanted to read them physically bros...
The frick? Most upfront subscriptions will still send you each issue as they come in every month, are you being made to wait until issue 12 to get all of them?
>Hi Thomas, we will process your order once all books in the order have arrived in-store. Please refer to the furthest release date indicated below.
Sure sounds like it
Frick, that sucks, dude. I hope they take each issue as its own separate "order" because if not...
So what ultimate books are there? >Ultimate Universe one shot by Hickman >Spidey by Hickman >X-Men by Momoko >Black Panther by Hitch >Ultimates by Camp
Ultimate Invasion miniseries as well.
I wonder what other books we might see in the future. I've just had an idea of maybe an Ultimate Ant-Man where Tony sends Hank the suit and a recipe for Pym Particles, but they are somehow intercepted by Eric O'Grady and he takes advantage of there not being any other superheroes and does sketchy shit with his new powers.
The thing is the option I selected for the preorder was 'Yes, and ship #2-13 individually' so it reads like it should be individually sent, but then the order email says that, so idk
Anon, you don't understand, she's a super sexy girl who might sleep with him once in a while, of course Peter has to forgive and ignore all those flaws, the people on this board would do it, that's why they want Peter to do it, to validate who are cucks like their superhero
Gonna be honest, when was the last time a first issue had this much anticipation period?
Even before release people were crossing fingers as if it'd be the second coming
They have to realize how bad everything is right now, why else would they have used ms marvels temporary death to boost the sales of ASM of all books, especially considering they wrote it into the “highly anticipated” ending of the opening mystery of the run
They realize it. They just don't care because they're Quesada's acolytes and the current status quo was his dream.
But they absolutely know people shit on them 24/7. It's why they're super combative during every convention and public appearance. Sooner or later someone high up will realize that it's time for a deep clean.
They have to realize how bad everything is right now, why else would they have used ms marvels temporary death to boost the sales of ASM of all books, especially considering they wrote it into the “highly anticipated” ending of the opening mystery of the run
They realize it. They just don't care because they're Quesada's acolytes and the current status quo was his dream.
But they absolutely know people shit on them 24/7. It's why they're super combative during every convention and public appearance. Sooner or later someone high up will realize that it's time for a deep clean.
This is what I hate the most about the current run of ASM, even more than Wells's dumb ideas and terrible way of writing dialogue and plot.
Everything about editorial response to fan backlash in both the letters pages of the book itself and online has been, variously, incredibly condescending and incredibly spiteful. I know they have to stand by the title, because that's how their job works, but it's one thing to simply do that and another thing entirely to constantly insist that nothing's wrong with the book, that everything's going to plan (even when the editor can't keep character names or relations straight and issues are getting leaked weeks early out of discontent), and it's actually all great stuff only a small minority of fans don't like because just look at THE SAAAAAAAAALES, it CAN'T be bad
The letter pages especially just piss me off. They've come up with this wonderful way of picking out the most ridiculously, empty-headed praising letters that is, if the letters are actually picked out and not just written by unpaid Marvel interns and then there'll be one single letter each issue that actually politely, formally criticises the run, but nevertheless has one small single point that Lowe can easily refute (usually something about sales or One More Day) and then he ignores every other bit of criticism brought up in said letter to tell readers to KEEP THWIPPIN'
It really seems like the toxic culture of comic companies have leaked into their interactions with fans. Like the spiteful shit writers would do to characters created by artists they don’t like had now become writers doing spiteful shit to characters fans like. Its almost impressive how blind they are about the tenuous state of the entertainment industry as a whole right now, and they not only have no interest in appealing to new potential readers, they have an active interest in running off the small customers they have left
It's a big problem with a lot of creative media these days. Some years ago, probably about a decade now, the big entertainment companies realised that if a new film/show/game/comic flopped or was unpopular with fans, they could simply just blame those fans for "being toxic" or "entitled" and collectively pretend like the product is good. Companies in the entertainment industry has always been averse to taking responsibility for a bad product, but this has taken it to the next level because now nobody within the industry itself has to take the blame -- it's just the super toxic, racist, sexist fandom's fault. And more pertinently to this specific discussion, this shift in corporate attitude has given creatives free licence to be condescending, dismissive, or even outright rude and spiteful towards fans, which in turn just makes the fans more angry themselves.
Sure, fandoms haven't always been shining examples of good behaviour, but there's a marked difference between condemning extreme fans for sending death threats to actors or writers, and dismissing any and all fans who simply dare to criticise poor creative decisions or the latest lazy, bad product. Also, it's a tired point, but I do want to mention that this change in attitude almost certainly ties back into Gamergate
Funny how Hickman can come in, writes an alt. story about Pete, yet still gets the core characteristics of the character, then we have Wells and Lowe, doing the exact opposite.
What are the odds the entire new Ultimate Universe relaunch was an elaborate plot for Hickman to write a Spider-Man ongoing without Spider-Man editorial getting in the way?
Isn't Hickman just building off of whatever Cates was working on before his accident? Though if he hijacked those plans and rerouted them to spite Lowe, that would be pretty based tbh
So what ultimate books are there? >Ultimate Universe one shot by Hickman >Spidey by Hickman >X-Men by Momoko >Black Panther by Hitch >Ultimates by Camp
There's not a lot of buzz now that the actual issue is out. Reddit isn't posting about it, Cinemaphile didn't even give it a proper storytime thread and the actual threads about it are slow, Twitter is quiet. It's a flop. Amazon claims it's a bestseller though.
I didn’t read it, but I think pancakes taste pretty good when you make a little Spider-Man face on them by arranging mini chocolate chips like his mask
Cute cover
It was weird, honestly. And I don't know how I felt about it.
Yes. I was kind of worried since Invasion was kind of boring, and almost felt that way for this issue.
But the final page was worth it, the Parker joke was funny and JJJ and Ben are going to be prominent, so I look foward for what's next.
It's a downright literary classic compared to ASM
Thought it was pretty good, would have liked to see more of Peter's family but that's okay. We know Peter is gonna fight Kingpin in issue 3, I wonder if what starts that conflict will be Kingpin killing Ben and/or Jonah for starting their own newspaper?
>ordered it off of Comicbookeroo along with preordering the next 12 issues, first time I've bought comics as an adult
>check to see if it's shipped
>turns out they only ship when all books have arrived
I wanted to read them physically bros...
The frick? Most upfront subscriptions will still send you each issue as they come in every month, are you being made to wait until issue 12 to get all of them?
>Hi Thomas, we will process your order once all books in the order have arrived in-store. Please refer to the furthest release date indicated below.
Sure sounds like it
Frick, that sucks, dude. I hope they take each issue as its own separate "order" because if not...
Ultimate Invasion miniseries as well.
I wonder what other books we might see in the future. I've just had an idea of maybe an Ultimate Ant-Man where Tony sends Hank the suit and a recipe for Pym Particles, but they are somehow intercepted by Eric O'Grady and he takes advantage of there not being any other superheroes and does sketchy shit with his new powers.
The thing is the option I selected for the preorder was 'Yes, and ship #2-13 individually' so it reads like it should be individually sent, but then the order email says that, so idk
It possibly saved spider-man. Now we just need to let Felicia get with 616/MCUparker
It is a shame they’re burning the perfect black cat actress on a shitty spin off that’ll bomb
Why do you homosexuals want Peter with this coal burner carpet muncher cheater ?
Anon, you don't understand, she's a super sexy girl who might sleep with him once in a while, of course Peter has to forgive and ignore all those flaws, the people on this board would do it, that's why they want Peter to do it, to validate who are cucks like their superhero
Gonna be honest, when was the last time a first issue had this much anticipation period?
Even before release people were crossing fingers as if it'd be the second coming
It's hilarious that editorial pretends everything is fine, while simultaneously masking dumpster fire sales with like 12 variants per ASM issue.
They have to realize how bad everything is right now, why else would they have used ms marvels temporary death to boost the sales of ASM of all books, especially considering they wrote it into the “highly anticipated” ending of the opening mystery of the run
They realize it. They just don't care because they're Quesada's acolytes and the current status quo was his dream.
But they absolutely know people shit on them 24/7. It's why they're super combative during every convention and public appearance. Sooner or later someone high up will realize that it's time for a deep clean.
I need the inevitable convention audience comparison pic between Ultimate and 616
It's not even just marvel. Look at how hard Star Wars is doubling and tripling down. They will burn this down before they admit they were wrong.
This is what I hate the most about the current run of ASM, even more than Wells's dumb ideas and terrible way of writing dialogue and plot.
Everything about editorial response to fan backlash in both the letters pages of the book itself and online has been, variously, incredibly condescending and incredibly spiteful. I know they have to stand by the title, because that's how their job works, but it's one thing to simply do that and another thing entirely to constantly insist that nothing's wrong with the book, that everything's going to plan (even when the editor can't keep character names or relations straight and issues are getting leaked weeks early out of discontent), and it's actually all great stuff only a small minority of fans don't like because just look at THE SAAAAAAAAALES, it CAN'T be bad
The letter pages especially just piss me off. They've come up with this wonderful way of picking out the most ridiculously, empty-headed praising letters that is, if the letters are actually picked out and not just written by unpaid Marvel interns and then there'll be one single letter each issue that actually politely, formally criticises the run, but nevertheless has one small single point that Lowe can easily refute (usually something about sales or One More Day) and then he ignores every other bit of criticism brought up in said letter to tell readers to KEEP THWIPPIN'
It really seems like the toxic culture of comic companies have leaked into their interactions with fans. Like the spiteful shit writers would do to characters created by artists they don’t like had now become writers doing spiteful shit to characters fans like. Its almost impressive how blind they are about the tenuous state of the entertainment industry as a whole right now, and they not only have no interest in appealing to new potential readers, they have an active interest in running off the small customers they have left
It's a big problem with a lot of creative media these days. Some years ago, probably about a decade now, the big entertainment companies realised that if a new film/show/game/comic flopped or was unpopular with fans, they could simply just blame those fans for "being toxic" or "entitled" and collectively pretend like the product is good. Companies in the entertainment industry has always been averse to taking responsibility for a bad product, but this has taken it to the next level because now nobody within the industry itself has to take the blame -- it's just the super toxic, racist, sexist fandom's fault. And more pertinently to this specific discussion, this shift in corporate attitude has given creatives free licence to be condescending, dismissive, or even outright rude and spiteful towards fans, which in turn just makes the fans more angry themselves.
Sure, fandoms haven't always been shining examples of good behaviour, but there's a marked difference between condemning extreme fans for sending death threats to actors or writers, and dismissing any and all fans who simply dare to criticise poor creative decisions or the latest lazy, bad product.
Also, it's a tired point, but I do want to mention that this change in attitude almost certainly ties back into Gamergate
Honestly Spider-man editorial has been a complete shitshow for over 30 years at this point
it really was over the moment Shooter left
One more time, anons
I SAY SHOOTER, YOU SAY SORRY
SHOOTER
SORRY
Still can’t get over that letter talking about that marriage proposal between “fans” of this run, lmao
Funny how Hickman can come in, writes an alt. story about Pete, yet still gets the core characteristics of the character, then we have Wells and Lowe, doing the exact opposite.
What are the odds the entire new Ultimate Universe relaunch was an elaborate plot for Hickman to write a Spider-Man ongoing without Spider-Man editorial getting in the way?
Isn't Hickman just building off of whatever Cates was working on before his accident? Though if he hijacked those plans and rerouted them to spite Lowe, that would be pretty based tbh
Storytime it maybe ?
it already was. We had a big huge thread.
I missed it
We got a blurry photographic evidence storytime yesterday, we’ll probably see a clearer one later today
I liked everything aside from them tying his origin so tightly to the general universe. Makes it feel a lot smaller
So what ultimate books are there?
>Ultimate Universe one shot by Hickman
>Spidey by Hickman
>X-Men by Momoko
>Black Panther by Hitch
>Ultimates by Camp
Bros, we're home
The beard is fricking moronic
I wish I wasn't in a financial low point at this time of the year, will probably read with the story time and buy it later
I would read a Skottie Young Spider-Man comic and it would sell extremely well. Marvel is moronic for not producing it.
Comic was fricking great
There's not a lot of buzz now that the actual issue is out. Reddit isn't posting about it, Cinemaphile didn't even give it a proper storytime thread and the actual threads about it are slow, Twitter is quiet. It's a flop. Amazon claims it's a bestseller though.
>the weekly comic thread in the Marvel sub suspiciously absent
Inside job
The LOCG page is the most active I've seen for a first issue on that site
It's no replacement for 616 Spider-Man getting it's shit together again, but as it's own thing it has me hooked. I'm patiently waiting for more
ToT
She kinda looks The Batman's Ivy and it BOTHERS me.
Why?
I want to rape-correct Ivy, and I prefer not to feel attracted to any of Spider-Man characters lest I end up like one of our schizos.
>marywh0re
wasted thread
Enjoyed it, but a bit disappointed I can't say FRICK YOUR CHARTS TONY