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People are tired of the vomit media companies give us
cool it with the antisemitic remarks
racists never learn
Uh, it's obviously the work of Russian bots trying to divide us
By criticizing star wars tv shows
And after attacking Amber Herd? Does it ever fricking end?
We understand sheboon your character sucks and you can't act and yes I will talk shit, because black people have some kinda barrier.
It basically dropped from 80 like right after he called out racist incels.
Whoops the Russian bots are it again
It might be the blandest TV show I've seen
You can tell every set, line, scene is the laziest and cheapest possible
Disney is feeling the pressure now that no one cares about Star Wars, the MCU is dying and the don't say gay bill blew up in their face
They're trying to cash out as much as they can before the next recession hits
wtf does don’t say gay have to do with disney? that’s some shit from like florida
And where is Disney World located?
Use that noggin, anon
I'm sure they're really concerned about the future of Star Wars with this show being the most watched thing on Disney+.
> the most watched thing on Disney+.
That's cool and all but
how much is that even? 100 thousand views, 500, 6 million?
>most watched thing on Disney+.
>https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=euphoria,mandalorian,loki,wandavision,%2Fg%2F11qpsdzw80
[X] DOUBT
I hope they hit the ground running so hard they are forced to sell back each and everyone of their acquisitions at discount prize. Sadly that will not happen because they are too big to fail.
Because they are running it into the ground. Disney’s strategy of making 1000 mediocre TV shows was bound to cause some serious burnout eventually. Same with Marvel, every show feels exactly the same, just extremely sterile and mediocre. This is what happens when you milk franchises to this degree.
Not even milk, just utter unbelievable trash quality TV shows and movies. Mixed in with all the woke talking points of course and if the lowly audience even dares to complain they are all -ists/-phobes.
This trick finally stopped working the last couple of years and now the enlightened ~~*people*~~ on top are losing control of their cattle.
The what bill
and the show costs a small fortune per episode
which means that the vast amount of the production cost has gone to mcgregor just to get him to show up
i mean the entire way this show was presented is so deceptive, mcgregor is out there doing a tour with christensen when the latter is barely in the show and i'll be SHOCKED if he has more than 5 minutes of screentime in total
the director is garbage, the special effects are trash, everything is done as cheaply as possible to save money so mcgregor can pocket it
he is a producer after all
Why does anyone care what anyone else thinks of something? Either you like it or you don't. Other people's opinions are irrelevant.
muh white genocide
No I just don't want ugly fricking characters who can't act
Disney are the ones who cried over racism
then drop the show
Lmao bro I'm not paying for this shit to begin with. Keep funding garbage like this so I can keep coming back here to be racist though, lol paypig loser.
> Das rite.
Shouldn't you be not breathing under a police officer?
Yes.
>Why does anyone care what anyone else thinks of something
Because some of those people have more information than you do.
Namely that all the actors on the show hate white people.
You're right that *technically* it's not their opinion that matters; but when your opinion is so out of step with the majority, it is a clue that you are underinformed of critical info.
How people react to bad media affects how much more bad media is created.
Watching three grown-ass adults trying to catch Leia, who runs like a fricking toddler, was so hilarious it catapulted me out of the show
Somebody must have put that to benny hill music by now right?
Link me the Leia running scene and I will.
yes
Thanks!
It's even better at 2x speed.
Incidentally, I was the first person to do this. I cut this segment ages ago and added Benny Hill and sent it to a few friends.
HOW DID THIS GET PAST POST-PRODUCTION? Like seriously, everyone watched it and decided "yeah, this is okay"?
That was embarrassing
>opening order 66 scene is great
>everything else afterwards sucks
what the frick man
The opening montage actually got me hyped. Best part of the show so far lmao
Order 66 has the most Lucas influence.
Ergo it’s the best
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>opening order 66
>it doesnt have the fricking theme on it from episode 3 or at least the leitmotiv integrated in a new song
its like they want the show to fricking fail
be careful otherwise we WILL take away audience review scores next
Did they not pay the power bill?
is that a real scene? are they really still doing the subverted expectations + constant nostalgia shit? can ewuan or whatever really not just actually run for a take? does he have bad knees?
Obi-Wan had been cut off from the Force for 10 years and was nearing old age. Fighting Vader, who had grown stronger than before and had been killing Jedi for years, would end up with him dead.
>subverting a character into a cowardly curr
So they literally learned nothing from the sequels? Nobody likes this shit, it's unsatisfying and makes the characters a fricking pain in the ass to deal with. If you're Dostoevsky and all the pieces of shit in your novel get what's coming to them anyways yeah go ahead but last I checked Star Wars wasn't crime and Punishment
How do you even get a job shilling this shit? Do they approach you on reddit or discord or something? How does it work?
Star wars cultists do it for free. Disney doesn't need to pay them.
Which is weak ass nonsense. Even rusty he would do better than that. He and Anakin were nearly equals, and arguably Obi came out on top. In order to tell a story its fine that Obi has PTSD and is rusty, but him acting like a complete b***h makes no sense.
That's a new invention by Disney that's stupid. The force flows through all things, Obi wan said so himself in the first movie. There was never a concept of willfully cutting yourself off from the force
There was in the EU but it was explored in much more depth. It wasn't like a switch you could just turn on and off but something extremely rare and unnatural.
Cutting yourself off from the force would be the same as losing all of your senses at once, something potentially fatal, especially for a jedi who has lived his entire life through the force.
But Disney doesn't care it's just a plot device just like it was for Luke.
>That's a new invention by Disney that's stupid.
Both KOTOR games had the PC cut off from the force a decade prior to Disney acquisition.
In the EU it was possible but you couldn't yourself like nothing it would be like cutting your hands and legs
>The force flows through all things, Obi wan said so himself in the first movie.
Cutting yourself off the force doesn't mean it stops flowing through you - you just can't feel it anymore.
thats just an excuse to make a previously beloved hero into a pathetic shadow of himself just like they did with luke.
I shouldn’t need to read to know this information
This is just, wow. People are defending this shit?
I am altering the review scores, pray I don't alter them any further
Why did they edit the climax of the episode like a comedy?
It's irony-poisoning
Most sci-fi and fantasy properties are helmed by people who have absolutely no respect for them
Based reply.
The force awakens set up general hux to be somewhat of a threat and serious character.
Rian beady fricking jizz in his eye Johnson ruined that in 5 minutes with his irony laced shit writing in The last jedi
It has gone up to 61% so don't worry Disney got the fix in
Wait'll this board sees the fire bit
Am I the only one who finds this funny? Like no shit I'd run away from Vader as well
The funniest thing is Obi-Wan running from left to right around the hill, then we get one shot of Vader just standing there, then Obi-Wan running from right to left around the hill again, like he changed his mind.
Shit is hilariously badly edtited.
>Jaimie, pull up those webms
oh, I'm Jaimie. When did that happen?
i dunno. we are trees.
this show may even be worse than piccard
>this show may even be worse than piccard
Let's not get carried away. At the end of the day, the show still pays lip service to Star Wars. Picard wasn't even trying.
Patrick Stewart hates the character of Picard and has been trying to shit on him for years.
Ewan wants to make a good Obiwan show but is just along for the ride and needs money for his new prostitute and isn't going to rock the boat.
Ewan is a great talent, and he does an awesome job with any role he gets. But so far this show had been middling at best.
I’d like a powerful confident Obi Wan in season 2 who is training with Qui-Gon and protecting Luke from dangers. And most of the season should be autobiographical with flashbacks to the most important parts of Obi WAN’s life. But instead we’ll get the heroic Reva show with Obi Wan is a side character who doesn’t care about Luke and constantly leaves Tatooine.
soigays, is this a dream sequence? I don't plan on watching disneyshit any time soon
no it's just poorly directed and you can't tell if it's trying to be a joke or not.
>H-He's fast!
?t=747
That fat chick always struck me as somebody with a brain in her head. I can't stand looking at her or watching her shitty movies but I remember her being heavily against Feigbusters after she signed the contract.
She's a ghostbusters nerd. When she heard they were making a new one she aggressively sought to join.
Apparently she was unhappy with the final product.
I clicked your link realised I was watching those Reddit darlings and turned it off. Frick you and your little Reddit letter media wienersuckers
Since 2016 when a movie or now a tv show is shit, it's always "muh racisms and muh sexisms". The studios really need to get some new marketing schtick.
its 61 percent that's at least a D
A bit of both. There's incels throwing a fit about there being women main characters and one of them being black, but there's a couple of dumb things they've done that have thrown it off a bit. Nothing huge, but enough to let some of the steam out. It's got a lot of potential, though.
where do i apply to these types of shill jobs unironically? i always sort of hope that the glowies and megacorps will see my posting history and offer me a job but nothing has happened
You have to apply at the marketing firm used by the company you want to shill for. Not sure if this is a Madison Ave controlled thing or not but I’d research who does PR and Marketing work for Disney. If it’s in-house then you’ll need to apply directly with them. Then they’ll send work your way and pay you with pops (lolly pops and Funko Pops).
I work at UnitedHealthcare, you're just a homosexual
Tell me you don’t know what is going on without saying you don’t know what is going on. They wrote these characters to be one dimensional and impulsive. That’s why people are complaining. Reva’s character has no depth and is purely reactionary. Leia is incorrigible and unnecessary. Obi Wan is semi nostalgic, but by episode 3 I was over Ewan returning and his dialogue is just flat. Was excited for Vader, but he literally let Obi Wan go. Any potential there might have been after the opening scene of the first episode is gone. It’s shit tier just like Mando, Boba and every movie after TFA
Boba was garbage (except for Grogu/ Luke). But Mando is good. It’s not Citizen Kane, but it tells a simple story effectively. Though, I’m sure Kathleen will ruin it soon enough
>soulless AI robot voice Luke
>not complete and utter dogshit
The entire prequels are CGI, including most of the characters. Do you hate those, edgelord?
>most
Nice try.
>every movie AFTER TFA
I wasn’t quite sure how your opinion could be so moronic, but then you added this clarifying qualifier, so thanks
It's only a matter of time before Rotten Tomatoes starts fudging the numbers like the did with The Last Jedi. (In that case, you could still see the individual ratings left by users, but any score one star or less wasn't counted toward the overall total.)
Gloating severancechad clocking in.
I can't pretend to work remotely from home and have to go to the office the show
>bragging about a show that's barely a 7/10
>had one of the worst season finales of all time
okay
Uh, Obibros? Not like this...
87 percent
How the frick?
>obi-wan is a bus riding wagie who needs to escort kid leia who is an obnoxious lisa simpson proxy
Woah what a COOL thing to do with Star Wars.
That 87 percent is just outright bought and paid for. Either that, or those folk should never write anything ever again.
>r-racist are hating on our trash!!!!!
Why don't they hate stranger things then? Is this garbage more woke than netflix? Source
>https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=stranger%20things,mandalorian,loki,wandavision,%2Fg%2F11qpsdzw80
Why don't racist Star Wars fans hate Billy D or Slam Jackson?
To some extent probably, doesn’t mean it isn’t a perfectly correct rating when you adjust for all the sois giving it high marks for meeting their incredibly low standards
I had to force myself to watch the second episode.
I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle. There's some interesting stuff in there but it's very sloppy. The scene with Leia talking about her real dad really worked on me and Anakin getting revenge for the Mustafar fight was pretty cool in concept.
>Anakin getting revenge for the Mustafar fight
>Hey, I chopped off all your limbs, turned what's left of you into a burnt testicle, permanently cucked you from ever achieving your full potential, hypothetically killed your wife and unborn children, and forced you to live out the rest of your miserable days constantly switching between staying a gimp suit with a vacuum that won't turn off and a vat of chemicals.
>Oh you scraped my knee a bit? We're even now, right bro?
That's why I said in concept it's a cool idea. It was executed poorly. But also Anakin thinks he killed Padme not Obi-Wan.
What did Star Trek get right?
It didn't. That shit's a pile of trash, too. They just took their moron writing into a semi-episodic format.
Because it was slightly less shitty than the rest of the Kurtzmanverse, trekkies can at least compare it favorably to the rest of the garbage.
Not going to lie to you chief I'm a full blown chud and SNW has promise. Is it perfect? Absolutely not, it can't be. But it's not terrible.
Oh it's terrible. It's just less terrible than its predecessors and peers.
Best to remove all that shit from your diet.
>It's just less terrible than its predecessors and peers.
That's called being better. And certainly superior to anything to come out of Disney Wars.
>That's called being better
A solid lump of shit is "better" than diarrhea.
It's still waste.
It's superior to ENT and VOY as well.
So those must be diarrhea dogshit.
You're an obvious shill. You homosexuals tried pulling this shit with that garbage cartoon, too.
Both Star Wars and Star Trek are dead and will remain dead until they're in better hands.
You aren't fooling anybody.
It's the producers producing the shit. Ask them.
>y-you're abloo bloo bloo
I accept your surrender.
>deflection
Surprise, and a pajeet at that. Disgusting.
You already surrendered.
No, but you really really want me to lmao
Your surrender is noted.
Anson mount is relentlessly handsome
why can you people only speak in fecal analogies
kek I recognize this posting style. Good to know SNW literally has only one hater.
>only schizos and pajeets shill this trash
kek
Recognize this one too. Must be a bot.
Yeah, bots are firmly anti-shill and hate when shitty shows are advertised nonstop.
>admits to being a bot
Checkmate.
Kurtzmangays, everybody.
They've always been this moronic.
>no one backing up the bot
I don't know dude. A nice solid shit can sometimes feel pretty good.
That doesn't warrant staring at it for an hour.
>400 ratings
>450 ratings
>40 ratings
LOL wait until season is over and people actually review this shit.
>that Kathleen cope
> Shilling NuDrek.
Frick off. Strange New Roasties especially pissed me off with how much promise it had with the first episode.
> Spock singing falsetto next to nuHura out of nowhere.
I will find the writers. And I will lock them in a basement with 110 db pop music playing 24/7.
>can't even fake outrage
Boys... we won.
it's comfy
star trek, when not in open rebellion against its comfy roots, is better than star wars
don't you have a nap to be taking, old man?
they're both hit and miss
>bad batch
>85/82
Holy shit who are those people?
I couldn't watch more than 3 episodes it was so fricking bad.
>Rise of Skywalker
>86%
the moronation of man
That was padded by bots. I have never met a single human, left wing, right wing, young or old that likes the Rise of Skywalker. Not one.
That 86% number is a sham
how
The check to rotten tomatoes cleared
oh no no
Rotten Tomatoes is owned by Fandango, look up who's Fandango's CEO he has quite the resume ;^)
Attractive women. Spock’s fiancée, for example, or the stupidly hot nurse shoving her womb in Spock’s face.
>500 ratings
Only people left watching new ST are braindead morons and drones.
>braindead morons and drones
we prefer to be called Cinemaphile or frogposters, thank you very much
>desperately moving goalposts
kek
See you in a month.
>it's YET ANOTHER turn a beloved male character into a whiny, weak, stupid bum while stronger, braver, superior female characters do all the work propaganda piece
I just can't deal with this shit anymore
Every single fricking remake, sequel, and prequel is like this. The structure is a genre unto itself.
Not all of them.
K had to kill Luv all by himself in 2049.
We're talking about established characters
Deckard ended up effectively saving his daughter's life and went into hiding to prevent her from being found. Ends up meeting her in the end, anyway. Even when he ran and hid, he at least had a good in-character reason.
Not Top Gun. It’s probably one of the reasons the movie has been so successful. In that first scene in training when Maverick is taking out all the wienery pilots I was waiting for the girl to be the only one who could actually hit him. When he took her down too I knew the movie wasn’t gonna disappoint.
By this post alone you didn't even watch the show.
Are you fatigued yet?
Russia hates America, and what's more American than Disney's Star Wars? They're obviously using bots to drive down the score so American society can be divided even further so Russia can win the war in Ukraine. We need to be united, because if good, honest Americans hate each other because of Star Wars, who's going to save Ukraine?
Pacman sun lol
It's legit better than any Star Wars content since Empire, bar Mando. It's still shit but it's not worse than anything else, are Star Wars fans just sick of eating shit?
A solid lump of shit is "better" than diarrhea.
It's still waste.
>but it's not worse
I'll bite. Please point out to us any starwars shit that you think is actually worse than Ol' Ben. Be specific about your criticism. Point to exact moments that are fricking stupid, awful, lame as frick, and/or undermine the greater narrative and lore of this fricking garbage franchise
>Prequels
>Sequels
>Rogue One
>Solo
>Boba Fett
I really don't care that movie is trash outside of the throne room. Star Wars fricking sucks
>Star Wars fricking sucks
then why the frick are you even here? go away
Frick off shill. Modern science fiction is fricking trash.
>Frick off shill. Modern science fiction is fricking trash.
I fricking hate kenobi, don't call me shill
science fiction was always trash
i guess very early science fiction from back in the late 19th century or pulp stuff from the early 20th century had soul, but the kind of science fiction that got prominence in the 50s and 60s is illiterate garbage
it's the literary equivalent of a discovery channel show with cardboard characters
if you think stuff like foundation is good, you should probably have a nice day
Star Wars isn't even science fiction.
It uses fictional science as a core focus. Science fantasy is a subgenre of science fiction, and is commonly known as soft science fiction since it's just a bunch of made up nerdy bullshit.
>noooo you can't discuss your favourite franchise
Kys, it's still shit shill doesn't mean I'm not a battered housewife consooming everything hoping one day Kathleen will be nice to me and give me another Mando
Sounds like you have mental problems, perhaps your time is better spent on improving yourself instead of telling people to kill themselves on the internet
>It's legit better than any Star Wars content since Empire
>this garbage
>better than the throne scene from return
What the FRICK are you smoking
Copium I'd say
>It's legit better than any Star Wars content since Empire
If I had a nickel for every time I've heard this since Disney bought Star Wars I'd have enough money to make my own trilogy.
Imagine being an accomplished actor, with a show about your character, and going along with this shit.
Being all happy and cheery with the interviews like everything is awesome.
Rich people disgust me. They don't even care. Everything is giggles because win or lose, they are still rich so none of it matters.
Just go along with the happy peachy corporate PR press release interviews and never say anything negative about the production. CRINGE.
what went wrong? is this really because of a black woman?
>t. never watching
No. They wrote Kenobi the same way they wrote Luke.
A shell of a man who isn't worth a shit and will run and cower at the slightest provocation.
Add one of the most annoying child actors ever filmed, and you have a certified disaster.
this. it’s Jake all over again. This is like Ken Kenobi
Yes, it really is. In defense of the racists, the black character is legitimately awful. You can tell there’s going to be some tragic backstory and redemption at the end of the story, but right now she’s utter dogshit. Still not enough to ruin the series. But racists gonna racist.
Sorry, troony, but I'm gonna have to side with the trips of truth on this one.
This.
Let me clarify. First, I said the black character is awful, so I think it’s highly unlikely I’m a troony. Second, I didn’t say the rest of the show is perfect. I agree Leia is annoying. And there’s the dumbest chase scene I’ve ever seen.
BUT the reason for the magnitude of the hatred really does boil down to “black woman REEEE.” People could in good faith call it mediocre. But the massive overreaction is likely due to racism. Deal with it.
>BUT the reason for the magnitude of the hatred really does boil down to “black woman REEEE.”
Nope. Not even disney could back that up. People are mad about the blue fairy Black person (for excellent reason). Nobody gives a shit about a black sith. It's not like she replaced any other character.
What’s the blue fairy refer to?
The Black person that people are actually mad about.
Oh okay. Thought you were referring to someone from Obi-Wan.
Jesus Christ, what in the frick?
LOL WHAT
HAHAHA LOOK AT THAT Black person
That Black is gayer than an aids infected anus.
this is mediocre? dude, your standards are so low that they're below the fricking mariana trench if you think directing like
is just "mediocre"
no, this is what we call BAD
the script is bad, the acting is bad, the directing is bad, the cinematography is bad, the sets are bad, the special effects are bad, EVEN THE MUSIC AND SOUND DESIGN IS BAD
there's not a SINGLE positive thing you can honestly say this show succeeds at
even the last jedi had some kino directing, great special effects and music
this has NOTHING
>even the last jedi had some kino directing, great special effects and music
The last jedi didn't have any of those.
you're moronic
go eat your disney-approved slop piggy
rian might be a dumb fat c**t but he's at the very least competent even if you don't find him good, whereas this asiatic couldn't even direct a CW show
>"go eat your disney-approved slop piggy"
t. homosexual who's openly defending disney-approved slop
i don't defend it, TLJ is shit
but it is significantly less shit than obi-wan
TLJ would be a 4, maybe a 5
obi-wan is a case where it's a clear 2 or maybe even a 1
the room seems more competently made than this show
If you treat objectively shit movies with anything but dismissal and sadistic humor, then you're wasting your time.
They're both garbage and should be treated equally. Much like how you'd react to a dog turd in a napkin compared to an empty milk jug
Both are garbage, both are beneath you. Neither warrants enough thought and effort to compare them.
>no i can't think critically about anything lol
yeah thanks i already knew you were moronic, if you know nothing about filmmaking enough to compare movies objectively then shut the frick up
>no i can't think critically about anything lol
I never said that and you know it. I'm saying to spend your time critically thinking about actual films and television, not soulless corporate products that are beneath you.
why would thinking about anything be beneath me? it's not beneath me to point out that someone is demonstrably embezzling and that nobody within the company seems to care, not even the shareholders
how exactly do you put $25 million per episode and end up with this level of quality? this would be like $50k-100k an ep if we ignore mcgregor's cost. there is something criminal going on, unironically
You're devolving into schizoshit. All I'm saying is that this garbage shouldn't be worth your time, and that devoting your time to it is hurting you and helping it.
like i said you lack critical thinking
there's nothing schizo in saying that this cannot possibly be $25 million an episode without someone unfairly embezzling a lot of that cash
there are CW shows that look better with a fraction of the cost
Sure, it's obviously money laundering. I don't know why you feel the need to watch and analyze this trash to come to that conclusion.
>implying i've watched this
that's where you're wrong
i'm just wondering how nobody's telling disney shareholders that the CEO is failing to helm the company effectively and that it's a disaster from top to bottom and riddled with corruption
disney is one of the worst companies in the united states
For somebody who likes telling people they can't think critically, you're saying a lot of shit that absolutely everybody knows like it's news.
i mean i'm sure a lot of productions embezzle cash, but those usually aren't also making incredibly popular shows and movies
i truly think star wars is a unique case
not even those marvel shows dare to go this low
>not even those marvel shows dare to go this low
Oh anon. Just wait and watch. They're in the process of going this low as we speak. Falcon and Winter Soldier already has.
>critical thinking
You seem very insistent about this specific construction...
>go eat your disney-approved slop piggy
Anon, TLJ is as disney approved slop as it comes
They were on damage control defending that piece of shit for months
>but he's at the very least competent
An egghead that starts a SW movie with a yo mama joke and spends two thirds of the movie on a boring chase on a straight line where nothing fricking happens doesn't deserve to be called competent.
>so moronic he can't tell that i dislike tlj too
>proceeds to whine about the script when we're talking about directing
you are like one of those dumbfricks that cries about lucas' dialogue and can't accept that he's a visionary director and filmmaker
suck my dick stupid Black person, and learn to read before you reply, and maybe understand the difference between the many different elements that make up a film
something can have a 1/10 script and still have good directing, and there are many such cases
to whine about the script when we're talking about directing
Oh I'm sorry I thought the DIRECTOR of a movie would have a say in the dialogues. But I guess the guy whose name is literally the first one to appear in the credits doesn't need to bother checking if the writing is good or a hot pile of garbage.
>you are like one of those dumbfricks that cries about lucas' dialogue and can't accept that he's a visionary director and filmmaker
As the director of those movies he had a ton if not total control over what was going on in them, for better or worse. Case examples, he was the one choosing from concept designs for certain characters like Grievous and also the infamous Behind the scenes video where he just outright marked on a storyboard that most of a frame should be CGI
>something can have a 1/10 script and still have good directing, and there are many such cases
Sure, but TLJ is not one of them you dumb homosexual
>Oh I'm sorry I thought the DIRECTOR of a movie would have a say in the dialogues.
not really, nor does it matter in terms of their directing
lucas' produced worse scripts for the prequels without anyone to criticize his dogshit writing, but his directing in the prequels is objectively superior to anything in the original trilogy
>Sure, but TLJ is not one of them you dumb homosexual
TLJ's directing is absolutely fine if not actually good, you're clearly too emotionally invested to be honest about it
caring this much about star wars should lead to immediate forced castration
>You talk like a fricking israelite discord using fricking b***h by the way
you mean
>reedable aspects
in that i can actually spell and i'm not having a fit over star wars like everyone in this thread? well, this is a series made by a israelite, anon, so i guess maybe you love israelites more than you think
>pretty pictures with his cinematography and some of his directing was good
yeah, which is totally absent in obi-wan, correct, that was exactly what was stated
>I was saying it was style over substance. And I'll build on it, nothing has been more damaging to star wars as a brand than the last jedi
who cares? we are talking about obi-wan being worse
>TLJ's directing is absolutely fine if not actually good
It isn't, not even on a vacuum.
Look at the fight on the throne room and tell me it had a good direction for example
the fight scene is terrible, but other stuff in the movie is better, and overall even the fight is passable
again, compared to OBI-WAN THE FRICKING TOPIC OF THE THREAD, it is MUCH better
I disagree
Even neB Kenobi was a better Jake Skywalker than the hobo Rian made
Style over substance. Most of the blame for the animosity towards the brand can be placed on Rian Johnson's decisions for The last jedi. It instantly poisoned a fan base. No matter how hard you try to revise that fact it'll never changed.
Rian Johnson poisoned a billion dollar brand and now Disney are playing weekend at Burney's with the fricking corpse.
Disney need a director with necromantic capabilities to bring this fricking corpse back to life
>Style over substance.
????
what are you even responding to you fricking schizo
are you people so moronic you literally don't even bother reading the posts?
i am not saying tlj is good, my initial response to someone that said obi-wan is mediocre, when it's clearly not, it is the bottom of the barrel dogshit that isn't even competently made
it's not bad to star wars fans, it's bad to anyone that knows anything at all about filmmaking
It's pretty clear I'm replying to your homosexual defence of Rian Johnson's film you fricking moron. You talk like a fricking israelite discord using fricking b***h by the way.
For clarification for your idiot ass, in a previous response you were saying Rian Johnsons last jedi had some reedable aspects because he can make pretty pictures with his cinematography and some of his directing was good. I was saying it was style over substance. And I'll build on it, nothing has been more damaging to star wars as a brand than the last jedi. Not even rise of the shit walker, because by the time that come out people had already seen Rian shit all over the franchise, he killed the excitement for the franchise.
How about you frick off with your buzzwords
Not him but dude get over it TLJ is the best SW movie since Empire.
You are literally using buzzwords to defend your delusion
>TlJ is the best sw movie since empire
Perhaps if you're some psuedo intellectual arse sniffer. It's readily apparent that film is responsible for the massive fan backlash and actively shit on established canon and on fan favourites.
>It's readily apparent that film is responsible for the massive fan backlash and actively shit on established canon and on fan favourites.
yeah, except, fans are subhuman
there are people out there that think filoni's garbage is better than what lucas produced, that don't like the prequels that enjoy clone wars
as awful as TLJ was, making those brainlets seethe was delicious
luke was always a trash character too
You sound like the subhuman here
>Fans are subhuman
>Brainlets seethe hurr durrr hahaha delicious
You sad little souled creature
they are subhuman
literally everything they like was created by george lucas, and instead they suck off parasites that create fanfic and then cry about other fanfic not being what they wanted
if you truly love star wars, you won't consider anything besides ep 1-6 canon
i give zero fricks about the force awakens, or tlj, or the clone wars, or any of this shit
even if it's good, it isn't canon, and only lucas matters
lucas is star wars, and star wars is lucas
so yes the fact that a ton of manchildren had a meltdown over this shows that they're moronic
you should've had a meltdown when you saw that lucas sold star wars, because even if these movies were better, they'd still be fanfiction
>if you truly love star wars, you won't consider anything besides ep 1-6 canon
I dont love Star Wars but I still dont consider anything these Disney losers produced as canon. What did they even do? Nothing. They ran a few known characters into the ground and gave us zero new lore on the universe or story development. All the "conflicts" in the Disney movies are not even real in my mind. That invasion fleet of testtube Palpatine --> I literally don't consider that to have happened for real in Star Wars. It's just a CGI job of a few interns.
It goes deeper than that. They are pathologicaly compelled to attack one of the only things they love. Its like some kind of fricked up revenge against their own inner child. They keep watching and watching everything star wars and then go into detail torturing it just to abuse a version of themselves that no longer exists. They hate the fact that they were ever naive enough to love something, and blame that weakness for their current misery. If only this kind of person had a cinematic parallel.
lol what dumb psychoanalyzing from the disney shill
don't quit your day job, and pick up an introduction to lacan instead of writing your 80 iq diarrhea, thanks
This is the most bullshit psycho analysis I have ever seen.
The reason people hate Disney wars is quite simple. It fricking sucks
>. You can tell there’s going to be some tragic backstory and redemption at the end of the story
It is probably obvious by minute one but I say that the Inquisitor is one of the kids that ran away during the order 66 scene. And her later story is going to revolve all around that.
There's definitely gonna be an order 66 scene where she sees Anakin killing the younglings and Vader will 100% kill her in the end.
nah
i mean she's terrible in her role, but the writing is so bad it makes a george lucas script look like a long lost shakespearean play
in the last episode a young leia asked obi wan
>what does the force feel like?
>have you ever been in a dark room and afraid? what did you feel when you turned on the light? it feels like that
and then there was a scene with vader and he literally screams at obi-wan
>I AM WHAT YOU MADE ME!!!!
yeah it's fricking abysmal
imagine fanfic written by a 12 yo boy except every so often his 7 yo sister wanted to pitch in and the mom forced him to put some of her ideas in as well
also here's the great directing from the asiatic in charge of the show
>in the last episode a young leia asked obi wan
>>what does the force feel like?
>>have you ever been in a dark room and afraid? what did you feel when you turned on the light? it feels like that
compare that to this almost 20 year old video game
kotor 1 and 2 are perfection
1 is pretty much the ideal adventure that any child should go on and 2 is a really nice deconstruction of star wars
if not for kotor, i wouldn't even give a frick about star wars as an ip
I WANT TO GO BACK
WHY DID ALL OF THESE moronic WRITERS RUIN MY FAVOURITE UNIVERSE
but to be fair, Kreia's monologue there would be some pretty heavy shit to lay on a kid who looks about five, even though she's supposed to be 10.
wow. anon you really brought up a deep cut there. that *felt* like Star Wars. honestly kind of gave me chills. and made me so sad for what we have now…
>she slides under a 3 month old tree that's half fallen
>he stops next to it like he can't just hop over it
holy shit lol
I always just assumed there's supposed to be people that check footage on big projects like this to make sure it doesn't... look like that? Like, at some point in production or editing, there has to have been people that saw this and realised how bad it looks.
they move like those mooks from power rangers, lmao
wow this is catastrophically bad. did the entire budget go to paying McGregor? How can the set design/directing/storyboarding be this shit?
looks like something from those 1980's Ewok Star Wars movies
The black inquisitor is just the lightning rod Disney has set up to absorb all criticism of this overwhelming mediocrity as somehow racial
>manchildren and literal racist trolls mass downvote something because it has women and black people in it
I like how you losers always use the 'its woke' excuse whenever something has non white people in it. Its got a woman? Woke. Someone who's black? Double woke. Just say you hate women and hate non-white people.
>Just say you hate women and hate non-white people.
i hate women and i hate non-white people
i say it everyday
At least you're honest.
I tried to watch the first episode and got 3/4 through it, it's boring.
This show depicts women as if the sun comes out of their veganas and they shit rainbows. It's actually fricking tiresome, and I can't believe how much screen time is dedicated to them.
"She's going to be a good fighter when she grows up" I outright nearly vomited at how trite and tart that seen was, who the frick is actually writing this shit and have they ever heard of subtlety
The problem is that this show has no stakes. We know that nothing particularly bad can happen to Obi-Wan or Leia or Vader because we already know where they're at come ANH so any scene involving them - particularly if they're in danger - feels significantly less dramatic.
it's a show with nothing to say really, except to distract you with a bunch of random shit. and it's way too glib at this point to be an obi-wan character piece.
>wife is watching stupid dating show
>the white males are either uncool or scheming (setup as the bad guy)
>the black males are taller and more muscular
>twist of the dating show is that the contestants are all in preexisting relationships
>the blacks cuck the shit out of the white guys
Why do shows keep doing this to us, lads?
>caring about what your wife watches
Topcuck
>not caring that your wife is unconsciously being subjected to cuckoldry-themed media
hi cuck
>married a woman susceptible to cuck media
toppest cuck
What fricking show is that
I have to say that the biggest achievement is the fact that they found a ten year old girl that not even pedophiles want.
It's impressive.
Speak for yourself.
Funny thing is I know your joking. None of the c*nnyposters are talking about this little shit. Not one.
Show looks like a literal fan fiction.
Also why the frick dont they use the past music in the new shows? Ending in Mandalorian and Vader appeareance would have been much better with the original themes
>literal fan fiction
That would imply that fans are making this.
all they had to do was make star wars Logan/old man Kenobi with a less diverse cast and more aliens
instead they churn out a piece of shit that is as bad as the critics said the prequels were (they weren't)
>all they had to do was make star wars Logan/old man Kenobi with a less diverse cast and more aliens
Not really, as much as I complained about SW's favourite desert planet again (we can thank Book for that sand fatigue) they should have never left the fricking desert planet.
Is like they want to ignore Luke as much as possible despite the fact that he is the sole reason he is in that shithole.
I think it was smart to not focus on baby Luke. Baby Leia isn't much better but it is the smarter choice.
>I think it was smart to not focus on baby Luke
Well duh, the show is called Kenobi so the focus should be him, if anything Luke is like the background noise, you know he is in there you know he is why Kenobi is there but isn't shown too much.
At most a couple appeareances or use him as a way to raise the stakes at some point.Think the Rebels episode where he kills Maul, he just gets mentioned and only his silouette is seen at a distance.
>it's just that there's barely any aliens around. All the extras are just brown people
It's been like this for quite a while sadly, and most of the aliens are the shitty designs from the sequels or inspired by that same school of design.
Loved Freck tho, even if he's just a giant anthropomorphic star-nosed mole
>Baby Leia isn't much better but it is the smarter choice.
I wouldn't be opposed to some scenes on Alderaan (with Bail Organa not with Kenobi), but Leia should be at most in the background of an insinuation in a conversation Bail has, not at the foreground of anything
>Focus on
The overall story for Obi Wan, the actual reason for him being alive, is to protect and eventually train the child of the chosen one. The show doesn’t need to “focus” on Luke. But he (Luke) should be an essential part of the themes, narrative, essence, and subtext of the series. Luke LITERALLY IS Obi Wan’s mission. That needs to be explored
oh no I completely agree it should have been on Tatooine 100%, it's just that there's barely any aliens around. All the extras are just brown people
also make the sith looking for jedi do more than ask people if there are any jedi around
they think the inquisition just asked people? The germans that got the israelites for the (work) camps asked people if there were any israelites around? And had black women do it?
have maybe a force sensitive alien/girl be forced to look for force sensitive others via the force. Kenobi can rescue her/bond with her or whatever, it could be a better character as someone's forced to betray the force
The rangs of power crew must be shitting their collective $1 billion pants.
Nice to see these shitshows are getting trashed like they deserve, and the people are seeing right through the doublespeak marketing and forced woke bullshit.
Can't fool all of the people all the time.
Those morons actually thought they could.
Top review on imdb
>This is nothing what I expected, dont know for sure what it was, but it was not this. All the 3 episodes so far feels empty, soulless and cheap. If it was something else than star wars, I would not be watching.
And then he proceeds by giving it 6/10, damn I hate consoomers, how could that be your review and then you give it 6/10? That's like a 3/10 review.
I'd probably give the last episode a 6. First was like a 3 and second a 4.
the ratings for shows are completely fricked on imdb
for example, only movies in the top 20 have more 10s than any other score
with shows, though, even really shitty ones below 8-7 have 40-50% 10s
on imdb show ratings are basically 6-10
8 is a normal imdb 6, and 9 is 7-8, while 9+ is 9-10
>This is clearly just the work of trolls right? Ahah..
i don't speak nuStar Wars, can someone give me a tldr. Is it worse than the JJs trilogy?
>Obi-wan is a weak old man
>smart and spunky 10 year old Leia commands every situation
>Uses a blaster and no force powers
>Shit music
>helicopter lightsabers
>retcons
>MEMBER IMPERIAL PROBE?
>Terrible acting from Ewan, most likely due to the shit director
>I guess Dark Vader had a few lines of dialogue
lol star wars might be the trashiest franchise around.
It’s about the same thing. Full of useless retcons, Obi Wan is an old loser (instead of an honorable old knight dutifully protecting the chosen one - Luke, who will save the galaxy) who doesn’t care about anything.
Reva is the real hero, and there are now hundreds of Jedi out there who are all going to die anyway
https://bongstream.live/north The Original Trilogy is on NOW
why weren't the racists sending hate messages and review bombing mandalorian for this Black person?
Because nobody gives enough of a shit about star wars to actually send hate messages to the Black person in Obi Wan.
That was all a marketing ploy.
The only DisBlack person people are shitting on right now is the blue fairy in the new Pinocchio.
>lying on the internet
Yes. Disney lies on the internet all the time. Every production company can and does.
Of course they do. But you're lying because you can't admit people would DM exactly what you already say on Cinemaphile.
>twf Finn is so forgotten people don't even remember to use you as an example of black characters
(imagine a pic of finn yelling)
He happens to be black
Because the mean old raycists SW fans hate blacks/non-whites period is a strawman.
Or this old homie. Its a mystery
Man, Carl knew the perfect level of hamming it up for that show. Pity he's only a little more than a cameo.
Everyone loving giancarlo and Carl just proves how moronic Disney is for trying the "racist" defense for Obi-wan. You can't even say "well you only hate black women" because there was also Sasha Banks. It's a pathetic move and only serves as deflection for the series actual issues.
Everybody loves Moff Gideon and Greef Karga. Reva is unpopular because of the way they wrote her
It can't be with the sanctions
haha 13/56. gottem
it's not a good show
Honestly, the scene in which Vader chases Kenobi through a cheap green screened soundstage and drags him through fire is the most pathetic fanfiction piece of writing I've seen in years. Nothing about this series fits in with the larger canon, Kenobi is bizarrely mischaracterized, and I find it VERY HARD to believe to ANH Vader would say "Last time we met I was the student, now I am the master" after destroying Kenobi 1 on 1 so easily.
B-but there is 3 more episodes! Surely their second fight in the series will be more fitting to that anh line. And it will have actually interesting real set to rival Mustafar. And good cinematography. And good music with hints of prequels ost. You'll see, toxic racist fake fan!
>be me
>gave up on modern SW years ago
>dont expect Kenobi to be good
>but expect them at least not go cheap and too incompetent on their flagship series
>got the duel that consist of two boinking movements, with shit editing, camerawork and lighting
>normies somehow praise the whole scene ignoring how shit it looked
I dont expect anything good from the last 3 episodes. Disney really taught their audience to accept the shit as a norm.
We will never get anything like picrel.
>game of thrones b***h is shooting from where everyone can see but nobody even shoots back
>dude fire lmao let me just watch while obi-wan gets away
It's sad that all criticism will get drowned over te racism stuff (despite the fact that Mandalorian and Boba fett had black people and no one cared). Kenobi just looks so fricking bad, and the writing is awful. They have all these great characters, and it feels like they're trying to ruin them. How do you make Leia so fricking insufferable?
>How do you make Leia so fricking insufferable?
It's hard to make a precocious brat who's actually likeable, usually they need to have something other than their precociousness as a character trait for it to work. There's also a reason that animation gets adult women to voice child characters.
Yes indeedy-deedy.
They knew that Reva was shit, that Moses was a shit actress and the show she's in is shit. They could've hired an attractive Bri'ish black woman to play her and it would've been bearable but it doesn't change the dogshit writing and ridiculously poor production values.
It was never good. But they will try to blame their shit story and shit acting on, "incels", "racists" or "white supremacy" because they think by calling out a boogeyman that means people have to like their show.
God forbid a person admit they are wrong these days.
Will the show get worse?
Yes.
Absolutely.
I bet it's all because of the black woman lol
Even the actor that is playing Obi-wan is shit. The entire thing is a clusterfrick.
I was liking this episode, but I don't like how weak Obi-Wan was. And Vader blew out the fire with a force push, so why when it reignites does he let Obi escape? He also could have jumped over it, walked around, or force dragged Obi back in.
please stop posting outside of your containment thread
obi wank enobi
Chuds reviewbombing it. It's the most successful Disney+ content ever (protip: chuds aren't the target audience)
It’s the most popular D+ content because of Obi Wan and Vader and Luke being in the trailers. Not because of its inherently excellent qualities.
Also, keep pushing the idea that if you don’t like a bad corporate action show = right wing and evil. This nonsense narrative did wonders for the brand with the ST. Please keep it up.
>Poorly directed
>Bad score
>More retcons
>Tries to continue the "living off the land, chewed up and spit out" tone of Mandolorian even though that's not what people want from fricking Obi-Wan
Obi-Wan kinda stinks
tv show critics have always been moronic
The story of the PT/OT was that Obi Wan hid Luke and watched over him as he was the child of the fallen chosen one and Obi Wan believed that Luke had the unique power/destiny to right what his father wronged.
Obi Wan also knew that Vader was alive because Vader was the second most famous person in the entire fricking galaxy.
Now, in Kathleen Kennedy’s nightmare canon, Obi Wan had NO fricking idea that Vader was alive (and yet he knew of the far less famous Inquisitors). And Obi Wan doesn’t even know if Luke is force sensitive (even though it’s made clear that the twins are insanely powerful in the Prequel literature). Star Wars is so fricking dead. Like beyond dead. Seven layers of hell and back again dead. Frick.
I get if other people don't know who vader is but Obi-Wan should definitely know or heavily suspect who the frick that is. Unless you're saying that word doesn't get around at all and vader is now a ninja that does everything stealthily.
Star Wars is done. They are actively retconning the OT now. Just leave it alone.
Set something 1000 years in the future or 1000 years in the past but stop fricking with these characters and the lore
>Obi-Wan literally watches a recording of Palpatine knighting Anakin Lord Vader
>10 years pass
>"wtf anakin is darth vader?"
This is monkey tier writing.
Right. There are “TVs” or holonets all over Tatooine. Even if Obi Wan completely ignored the news for 10 straight years, he goes to work everyday, so someone- just one person there needs to have watched the news once in those ten years and discussed Vader at work. It’s almost impossible for Obi Wab not to be aware that Vader is still alive.
>Even if Obi Wan completely ignored the news for 10 straight years, he goes to work everyday, so someone- just one person there needs to have watched the news once in those ten years and discussed Vader at work.
Oh, is that what they went for? If he hasn't even kept up on the status of the Emperor, then he is a complete and total failure in his duty. Not only would he be unable to teach Luke about the Force, but he also would have nothing to teach Luke about the enemy.
The show is so fricking bad and poorly executed. It should never have been made, but since they did anyway they should have at least given it a budget. There are CW DC shows with better production value.
This is only worth watching for Uncle Ben
Obi Wan’s last great life mission is protecting Luke. In this way, Obi Wan is actually saving the galaxy but doing it in a quiet, anonymous and graceful way. It was poetic.
Now he doesn’t give a frick anymore. This is embarrassing
Its evident that black female Black will have some sort of redemption arc and is the main focus of the show.Not only she is unlikeble and a bad actress they will try to guilt trip you into liking her or call you a bigot or racism.